And Finally After Two Years>>> Vkay Gains!!!

I wear the vac-extender in the around the waist setup with the ring at the base. This is the best setup I've found so far where I could move around and not have to worry about slippage or too much spring back. I like to wear mine fairly tight at the waist and this causes problems wearing down the leg because the bungee springs back and forth constantly. It's not uncomfortable but I'm just too aware of it. With the around the waist setup with the ring it focuses almost entirely on the tunica which is a huge area for consistent gains, but it's tough to lengthen because it's tough. I've found that this setup really makes a huge difference in the effect it has had on my tunica gains.

The best advice I can give you is to shoot for 4-6 hours wear time each time out. Take breaks if the glans is too swollen after 2-3 hours wear time.

At this point I'm going to report that I am now a tick below 8.5" FSL and am now measuring at a bit more than 8" EL. I'm going to continue until I am at 8.5" or more. In about six months I have gone from being plateaued at 7.5" EL to 8.0" EL. I believe that with focused effort and better planning that I've been able to reach this milestone. The tunica focused routines along with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] were the vehicles that I used but I believe that as much credit is due to the rest periods that I've taken in this time frame as well. Being able to heal and grow into larger size when resting has proven to be a huge difference maker for my gains and my mental state.
 
millionman said:
I wear the vac-extender in the around the waist setup with the ring at the base. This is the best setup I've found so far where I could move around and not have to worry about slippage or too much spring back. I like to wear mine fairly tight at the waist and this causes problems wearing down the leg because the bungee springs back and forth constantly. It's not uncomfortable but I'm just too aware of it. With the around the waist setup with the ring it focuses almost entirely on the tunica which is a huge area for consistent gains, but it's tough to lengthen because it's tough. I've found that this setup really makes a huge difference in the effect it has had on my tunica gains.
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Very interesting. But how do you figure that wearing it around the waist yeilds Tunica gains? I'd think it would stretch the ligs as whenever I do a side manual stretch I feel it directly in the ligs, but then again I'm nowhere near as experienced as you are when it comes to manual work.



The best advice I can give you is to shoot for 4-6 hours wear time each time out. Take breaks if the glans is too swollen after 2-3 hours wear time.
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How many hours a day have you on average had it on?



At this point I'm going to report that I am now a tick below 8.5" FSL and am now measuring at a bit more than 8" EL. I'm going to continue until I am at 8.5" or more. In about six months I have gone from being plateaued at 7.5" EL to 8.0" EL. I believe that with focused effort and better planning that I've been able to reach this milestone. The tunica focused routines along with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] were the vehicles that I used but I believe that as much credit is due to the rest periods that I've taken in this time frame as well. Being able to heal and grow into larger size when resting has proven to be a huge difference maker for my gains and my mental state.
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Now that makes me sincerely proud of you. EL gains are in my opinion the only true gauge on progress.

We should all learn from your techniques and hopefully we will all have sustained growth.

In my second cycle I went overboard and clearly overtrained my dick from early on in the cycle. I will be keeping that in mind when I start my third cycle.
 
VK, If you are feeling the SO stretch in the side of the penis this is the tunica and not the ligaments. If you are, indeed, feeling this in your ligs then I would venture a guess that your ligs are extremely tight and need to be worked. The around the waist setup hits both ligs and tunica, but with the ring at the base the tension from the elastic pulls the ring into the shaft, sort of like a v-stretch to the side, and places the focus of the tension on the tunica. With the vac-extender I average about 4.5 hours per use.

I've done lots of focused work on my tunica the entire six months and I've made huge gains thus far. Working with an upward angle using a fulcrum has proven to be very effective in the last two cycles. Incorporating a downward bundled tunica stretch and I believe this is a combination that can not be challenged for effectiveness in training the tunica. I don't have lots of time to Penis Enlargement, so my volume is usually consistent cycle to cycle. The only variable that changes is the amount of wear time with the vac-extender. My time tends to drop off towards the end of a cycle to about 4 hours, and this is just from being fairly beat up after 7 straight days of length work. This has really been an enjoyable cycle but I am really glad that I am off for the next 7 days.

EL is where we see gains in a solidified state. Usually any gains in FSL will only take a few weeks time to convert over to EL, but that increase in EL is usually accompanied by more growth in FSL. These two things are very closely related and both should be considered progress when the numbers on the ruler change. I will say that I was very very happy to see 8" on the ruler. It just feels like anything else that I gain now is just that little bit extra. I've always wanted to be 9" and somewhere in the 6" girth neighborhood. I think that would be extraordinary.
 
ya after 8" of EL, anything else is just extra goods. I think I'd be happy with a 8.5 nbpEL and 6.5 midshaft dry girth.


So million, which of the work/rest splits you've been experimenting with have yielded the best results?

would it be fair to say Penis Enlargement'ing itself doesn't make you grow. ADSing after Penis Enlargementing is what causes growth?
 
Hmmm....I believe that a 7 day on 7 days off program for length works extremely well. I think the key is total time in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] post session with a decent level of tension. I don't think it's necessary to have huge amounts of tension for the tissue to grow while in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].

I don't know if I'd say that ADSing post session is what causes growth but I do believe that not allowing the tissue to turtle and possibly form a cross matrtix of tissue is a huge part of why the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is effective. I'm not 100% on that but I do think it is a solid idea.

Now, as for myself and Penis Enlargement I think at this time in my life I'm having to step away from length work, simply because I have no time to Penis Enlargement during the day and then put the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] on. I might go back to working in the pump and attempt to reach a length of 8.5" and a girth of over 6". I've been deconditioning and will probably take off for at least 2 months, possiby longer, and then come back to a pumping and jelqing regimen. I really just need a break and to make sure that I take care of my business as well as my physical condition. I've gotten up into the low 260s and I'm carrying a bit more fat than I'd like, especially in the groin. I'm going to use this time to work on the bf% and get into the best shape of my life. I'm still measuring at 8" EL and a bit more than 5.5" EG. We'll see what happens and I'll keep you guys posted.
 
I've started a progress log in the Routines and Progress section, but I haven't heard from VK in months.

I deconditioned for a LOOOOONNNNGGGG time. Nearly three months and I've come back and things are moving very smoothly. I'm taking today off because I'm a bit beat up and the skin is just getting back into some condition. I'm measuring at 8.5" FSL and a bit more than 5.5" in girth with just having worked up to 350 jelqs as of the other night. I've rethought my approach to Penis Enlargement and have decided to keep things as simple as possible. I'm going to be making some equipment additions thanks to Monkeybar updating the vac-extender gear and will have the anti-turtle sleeve to go to war with very soon. On days like today having the anti-turtle sleeve would be incredibly helpful because I'm so tender that I can't imagine wearing, and refuse to wear, the vac-extender. Anyway, I'll probably post in this thread about my new ideas and how I'm implementing things as I go. I'm testing out some different ideas and splits at the moment and hopefully what I've got right now is solid because at this point it seems to be the best thing I've experienced so far into my Penis Enlargement career.
 
millionman;263648 said:
I've started a progress log in the Routines and Progress section, but I haven't heard from VK in months.

I deconditioned for a LOOOOONNNNGGGG time. Nearly three months and I've come back and things are moving very smoothly. I'm taking today off because I'm a bit beat up and the skin is just getting back into some condition. I'm measuring at 8.5" FSL and a bit more than 5.5" in girth with just having worked up to 350 jelqs as of the other night. I've rethought my approach to Penis Enlargement and have decided to keep things as simple as possible. I'm going to be making some equipment additions thanks to Monkeybar updating the vac-extender gear and will have the anti-turtle sleeve to go to war with very soon. On days like today having the anti-turtle sleeve would be incredibly helpful because I'm so tender that I can't imagine wearing, and refuse to wear, the vac-extender. Anyway, I'll probably post in this thread about my new ideas and how I'm implementing things as I go. I'm testing out some different ideas and splits at the moment
I and hopefully what I've got right now is solid because at this point it seems to be the best thing
I've experienced so far into my Penis Enlargement career.
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I was just bumping this someone and read it again. Guys should really study this.
 
goinfor11x7;329214 said:
Good stuff, DLD. A must read if one is serious about P.E.
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There are a lot of incredible threads buried in the past. One day I am gonna go on a bumping mission to get some of them live again.
 
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