Glad you can have a positive mental attitude through what you have perceived as a short coming. I feel like it's a win for you tho. You stuck it out through and through. I'm my book, that's a win.
 
BornInFigi;638388 said:
Glad you can have a positive mental attitude through what you have perceived as a short coming. I feel like it's a win for you tho. You stuck it out through and through. I'm my book, that's a win.

Sometimes the Universe throws us a curve ball to see how we might react to it, when I see such tenacity I know you guys are passing these tests.
 
well being 8 bpel means that you are 7.3 or something nbpel thast great IMO dont get too obsessed thast not a healthy thing at all,when im too obsessed about gains i get really stressed and even my body gets fatigued,i deal whit a lot of stuff too,bad moments,dissapointments,and the list goes on.i wish i was in a great relationship whit a beautiful girl and stuff but i dont..
 
BornInFigi;638388 said:
Glad you can have a positive mental attitude through what you have perceived as a short coming. I feel like it's a win for you tho. You stuck it out through and through. I'm my book, that's a win.

I'd rather be Clint Eastwood about it and face every adversity with a, "do you feel lucky?", kind of attitude. My brain just doesn't call on dopamine the way a normal person does. I'm more likely to draw adrenaline if I don't resist. That makes a person look crazy as shit from the outside. Resisting urges from adrenaline feels like a denial of a reflex. You want me to smash that wall? I probably shouldn't, it might scare someone, but yea that sounds REALLY fun right now.

My fat pad is over an inch also. That's not necessarily permanent but we'll see where the peak is with my determination this time.
 
Alright. So here's where I'm at.

I want 9x7.

I am confident beyond expression I can get whatever girth I want with my methods. I record an 8 inch base girth routinely.

Length is less easy. I have nothing but a few common gimmicks. I have a limited selection of ideas to turn what I have into what I want.

Any ideas for the already lot theorized viewing my little thread?
 
Longth;638494 said:
Alright. So here's where I'm at.

I want 9x7.

I am confident beyond expression I can get whatever girth I want with my methods. I record an 8 inch base girth routinely.

Length is less easy. I have nothing but a few common gimmicks. I have a limited selection of ideas to turn what I have into what I want.

Any ideas for the already lot theorized viewing my little thread?

What are you now doing for length work?
 
With my slip and slide foreskin there's not much really available. Manual stretching has basically been tested and ruled out as they're not working for me. All I am considering is using my weight for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] and trying erect stretching in an expressive kind of way along side actually stretching it outward. I have virtually no money to throw at it now. So it looks like I'm at the end of my possibilities. I'm certainly not going to use the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] again, and I have never been able to use a regular [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] because my foreskin just won't allow it.

It really is like pull it back taught and it slips forward. Pull it back a little same thing. Leave it over the head and the head slips out. Freaking annoying.
 
Longth;638572 said:
With my slip and slide foreskin there's not much really available. Manual stretching has basically been tested and ruled out as they're not working for me. All I am considering is using my weight for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] and trying erect stretching in an expressive kind of way along side actually stretching it outward. I have virtually no money to throw at it now. So it looks like I'm at the end of my possibilities. I'm certainly not going to use the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] again, and I have never been able to use a regular [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] because my foreskin just won't allow it.

It really is like pull it back taught and it slips forward. Pull it back a little same thing. Leave it over the head and the head slips out. Freaking annoying.

Is a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] out of the question? I know nothing about having forskin, but I think voorhees is uncut? Maybe? He's going bananas. Erect, base or expressive stretching could be a cue for you. I attach my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] very close to the base for all stretches and hanging too. I'd say you can win one in the contest, but I'm in such dire need to win the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] in March- can you wait till April ? 😉
 
Well anyway, I just had my first flawless late night edging session in months. Using the ring intermittently and experimenting with an erect fulcrum stretch. Really have no idea if it's helpful but it did feel like it was pulling at everything. Kinda works on the same premise as a Mandingo stretch except there's obviously an erection rather than bundling. Routine is going to be just as intense but definitely different and vastly more enjoyable..

Constantly using heating pad whenever I get a chance. Also as warm up and warm down.

Manual routine
5 minutes of bundled stretches.
30 minutes edging with a ring 10 on 5 off.
During 5 off minutes, erect fulcrum at the base for two and a half minutes. Jelqs and erect stretching the other 2 and a half minutes.

The rest
15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
8 hours minimum weight hanging [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words].
1 break mid day will include another round of the manual routine.
After finishing [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], one last round of the manual routine and another 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].

Off day every Sunday. 3 month routine provided I see some gain in bpel during measurements. If not I will continue to try other variations of erect stretching that I haven't thought of yet.

My base girth is consistently over the size of my o grip with a ring on. It's a bit ridiculous. But ideally I am looking for 7 mid shaft. I'm not doubtful I can manage that considering the typical expansion I get. If all goes well I will probably revert to a maintenance routine of basic stretches and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions. Edging with a ring isn't really work to me so that's just going to happen.

Plan is still to start Monday. Now that it's all figured out it should be pretty easy going.
 
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BornInFigi;638603 said:
Is a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] out of the question? I know nothing about having forskin, but I think voorhees is uncut? Maybe? He's going bananas. Erect, base or expressive stretching could be a cue for you. I attach my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] very close to the base for all stretches and hanging too. I'd say you can win one in the contest, but I'm in such dire need to win the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] in March- can you wait till April ? 😉

I guess I didn't see this last night? Weird.

Yea, you don't have to worry about me with any contest type of deal. Between my lack of any real confidence in my understanding and that I'm just plain not able to make 400 posts in a month I am virtually a non issue. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] at 179 I think it is, is just not within my means. Much like anything else on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words], it's a clever and undoubtedly effective device. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] are obviously strong performers for many. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] would only be surprising if it actually failed. Just been on a strict budget and trying to actually be fiscally responsible more and more as I get older.

Would probably be a butt kicker though.

My hang is lovely today. Maybe my little lever trick will be enough. Or maybe I'll break it. I doubt it or I wouldn't try it, but it is a strange feeling. Just one more experiment that has a slim chance of efficacy to tack on to the wall of ideas not worth trying most likely. Time will tell. It's not like it takes more than a few weeks to see if something is having an impact at all. So whatever. If I gain a millimeter woohoo. If not Boohoo and move on. Same old potatoes.
 
Longth;638659 said:
I guess I didn't see this last night? Weird.

Yea, you don't have to worry about me with any contest type of deal. Between my lack of any real confidence in my understanding and that I'm just plain not able to make 400 posts in a month I am virtually a non issue. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] at 179 I think it is, is just not within my means. Much like anything else on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words], it's a clever and undoubtedly effective device. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] are obviously strong performers for many. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] would only be surprising if it actually failed. Just been on a strict budget and trying to actually be fiscally responsible more and more as I get older.

Would probably be a butt kicker though.

My hang is lovely today. Maybe my little lever trick will be enough. Or maybe I'll break it. I doubt it or I wouldn't try it, but it is a strange feeling. Just one more experiment that has a slim chance of efficacy to tack on to the wall of ideas not worth trying most likely. Time will tell. It's not like it takes more than a few weeks to see if something is having an impact at all. So whatever. If I gain a millimeter woohoo. If not Boohoo and move on. Same old potatoes.

I was just playing any way. I can't post 400 in a year, but luckily it's more about likes and thanks now, so the more productive stuff yields the prizes. You came in second last month right? Behind shortdick? Well regardless, we all have gains to make and sounds like you're pretty positive about this new path and what you're doing seems like a good way to do so.
 
BornInFigi;638668 said:
I was just playing any way. I can't post 400 in a year, but luckily it's more about likes and thanks now, so the more productive stuff yields the prizes. You came in second last month right? Behind shortdick? Well regardless, we all have gains to make and sounds like you're pretty positive about this new path and what you're doing seems like a good way to do so.


Very true and I think that is the reason LIGHTNING made likes and thanks a priority in the contest.
 
Yea I kinda think last month was pretty much the closest thing to a shot I had. My confidence in my advice is low and I'm not willing to send people off in the wrong direction so I can get a new toy. That's not really right you know?

I woke up later than I planned on. I guess I needed it. Really the least tired I've been in months. I am less sure about how I want this day to go now that it's here. I am getting a sinking feeling I'm opting to do too much. I've seen how well these things work for girth for me so it is a fine bit of overkill. I am kinda tired of the endless trips to the bathroom and I may just not have the mental fortitude for a routine like that at this point. If it makes me sick thinking about it yea. Probably just going to kill my drive.

Idk
 
Longth;638718 said:
Yea I kinda think last month was pretty much the closest thing to a shot I had. My confidence in my advice is low and I'm not willing to send people off in the wrong direction so I can get a new toy. That's not really right you know?

I woke up later than I planned on. I guess I needed it. Really the least tired I've been in months. I am less sure about how I want this day to go now that it's here. I am getting a sinking feeling I'm opting to do too much. I've seen how well these things work for girth for me so it is a fine bit of overkill. I am kinda tired of the endless trips to the bathroom and I may just not have the mental fortitude for a routine like that at this point. If it makes me sick thinking about it yea. Probably just going to kill my drive.

Idk

All you have to do is keep doing you man. You don't have to dole out advice for a new tube or anything, you just need to keep up on your PE, and be a good bro on the forum man. It's sounds like you are quite depressed, amigo? Are there other things away from training that are getting in the way?
 
There's always something. Training was actually a distraction that gave me a sense of control because gains were coming regularly. Now that I've hit the wall because of a lack of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] mainly it's starting to become another thing I have bad luck with. Length work is draining, so seeing all that energy basically get lost is definitely a downer in it's own right.

There's not a lot else to try though. So I will soon reach the point where it's kinda out of my hands. And I can at least say I did everything within reason that I could. I can't really put myself down for the effort I put in here though.
 
Longth;638743 said:
There's always something. Training was actually a distraction that gave me a sense of control because gains were coming regularly. Now that I've hit the wall because of a lack of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] mainly it's starting to become another thing I have bad luck with. Length work is draining, so seeing all that energy basically get lost is definitely a downer in it's own right.

There's not a lot else to try though. So I will soon reach the point where it's kinda out of my hands. And I can at least say I did everything within reason that I could. I can't really put myself down for the effort I put in here though.

Keep your head up bro. Don't give up!
 



Some pics of my post workout after another perfect and lengthy edging session. You can plainly see that I get absolutely epic expansion with a ring. I am very satisfied with my session today that ran for nearly 3 hours without a hiccup. I think most anyone would be thrilled to have that kind of control. It's not the record for me, but it's damn close.

I am apparently not going to lose any further gain. I've actually laid low and haven't touched length work in weeks. Seems I'm stuck a hair over 8 inches. This is a breath of fresh air for me after the initial measurement that had me so discouraged. I will gladly take a simple plateau over a struggle to maintain a temporary gain any day of the week.

In other news I recently began working on a project that netted me a little more than I counted on. I'd be wiser to save it or knock out a bill or two, but I'm actually going to get the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] instead. Really came out of the blue and the lady of the house actually suggested I get it after she caught a glimpse of the box opening video. I guess in this particular instance keeping an open dialogue was actually a good thing. Nevertheless, I will be ordering one and trying out the most helpful sounding exercises I can find while I wait.

So I've got plenty of research and preparation to do. Definitely feels like the spark I've needed to get back my motivation. I see no reason to not still continue with girth work in pretty much the same manner. Maybe just get rid of the middle session and just do [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] between two big sessions. If this phase doesn't work length can kiss my girthy ass. I'd be a little surprised though considering the reputation it's earned.

1 hour in the morning. 1 hour at night. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Ads[/words] all day. Also half hour edging and 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after each session. Going for the big beef here. Let's get this shit done.
 
Longth;638941 said:



Some pics of my post workout after another perfect and lengthy edging session. You can plainly see that I get absolutely epic expansion with a ring. I am very satisfied with my session today that ran for nearly 3 hours without a hiccup. I think most anyone would be thrilled to have that kind of control. It's not the record for me, but it's damn close.

I am apparently not going to lose any further gain. I've actually laid low and haven't touched length work in weeks. Seems I'm stuck a hair over 8 inches. This is a breath of fresh air for me after the initial measurement that had me so discouraged. I will gladly take a simple plateau over a struggle to maintain a temporary gain any day of the week.

In other news I recently began working on a project that netted me a little more than I counted on. I'd be wiser to save it or knock out a bill or two, but I'm actually going to get the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] instead. Really came out of the blue and the lady of the house actually suggested I get it after she caught a glimpse of the box opening video. I guess in this particular instance keeping an open dialogue was actually a good thing. Nevertheless, I will be ordering one and trying out the most helpful sounding exercises I can find while I wait.

So I've got plenty of research and preparation to do. Definitely feels like the spark I've needed to get back my motivation. I see no reason to not still continue with girth work in pretty much the same manner. Maybe just get rid of the middle session and just do [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] between two big sessions. If this phase doesn't work length can kiss my girthy ass. I'd be a little surprised though considering the reputation it's earned.

1 hour in the morning. 1 hour at night. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Ads[/words] all day. Also half hour edging and 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after each session. Going for the big beef here. Let's get this shit done.

Yeah brother! Beef? It's what's for dinner, bitch.
 
So I guess instead of getting that I'm going to be irritated that PayPal isn't authorized to take the card I specifically got to use for it. Never even heard of that, but whatever.
 
Handled. Now the wait and planning. Can't deny that I'd be very pleased if it works out and I can get the new gains I'm after. Not much out there would give me a better shot.

As for the use, I'm thinking 20 minutes of bundled stretches, possibly Mandingo style. 20 minutes of btc stretches. And another 20 minute set of something else I haven't determined yet. I'm also thinking about using it as a hanger for a 20 minute set mid day. Just because why not? I have some weight to use and something to use it with.

Anybody want to recommend the third length busting monster stretch I might do?
 
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