put it this way, with my normal girth routine inc 2 x 15 min clamped sessions and 500+ jelqs i get to 5" clamped girth. After doing 100 erect jelqs and 10 min's clamped [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] i got to 5.10" clamped girth 