Well, I am back state side and wanted to start a log for multiple reasons. Partly for accountability, but also after months of research I kind of wanted to consolidate what I had learned for others.

So, about me, 30ish in good shape (military). Starting measurements:

FG: 4 6/8"
BPFL (not stretched): 4 7/8"
EG: 5 3/8"
BPenis EnlargementL: 6 2/8"

Goal:
Short term (6 months) - BPenis EnlargementL 7 1/4", EG 6"


I started with a 5 week newbies warm up.

Rest days:
Everyday kegel for 1 minute
JAI stretches 20
Stretch down, left, right, up straight out, 30 seconds each

Work days
Same as rest days but add 10 minutes of jelqing.



Each week increase kegels, jai stretches, stretches and jelqs so that week 5 ends with 5 minutes of kegels, 100 JAI stretches, 10 minutes of stretches, and 20 minutes of jelqing.

Additionally, week one, work day, rest day rest day, week two work day rest day, week three work day work day rest day, week four work day work day work day rest day....etc till five weeks.
Obviously incorporate a warm up and warm down.


I am currently on week four of this program. As I progressed and learned more I began to incorporate [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] healing principles. I need to caveat, that I was deployed when I started and ran into some minor set backs such as doing week one, having our entire base blown up, post poning Penis Enlargement for several weeks before starting up again.

Additionally, after our base was flattened on the way out of country I lacked a private room and had to do Penis Enlargement in showers or stalls, and the environment was less than ideal.



I will add in more details as I go.

5NOV13

Length
Morning: hot shower with 60 JAI stretches to warm up. (JAI Stretch is just a two second pull, up down, left right, straight out, to warm up the ligs.)

After buying the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] max gains package, I've incorporated/modified their newbie 5 week warm up into what I was already doing.

1.5 minute stretch BTC, BTC Left, BTC RIght, up, left, right, straight out, 20 hand cranks. (Ten to the left and ten to the right)

After shower, took [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] pills that came with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

Put [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] on for 1.5 hours before going to work (lowest setting for spring rate).


I should have [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrapped during work, but didn't today.



Evening
Girth
Hot shower with 50 quick kegels and 24 JAI stretches to warm up.
Put on my supra RoP
6 minutes of jelqing at 50% EQ
7 minutes of jelqing at 90% EQ


Tossed on a cock ring afterwards that I just picked up, for 1 hour. I placed the cock ring only on the shaft, not around the cock and balls. I believe that's the way to do it for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. My cock ring seems a little stiffer than I thought it would be, and I will be looking for a more elastic one. However, it did keep me more engorged for the next hour,


Healing:
Tossed the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] back on until I got to bed, and will sleep with the autoXSleeve on tonight.
 
Excellent beginning LOG! This is a big part of gaining and getting help, when you allow us to see what you are doing we are able to help you with it. Seeing your routine and future plans I can see you have not only done your research but you are fully prepared to make the fastest gains possible. Remember, this is a evolution more than a revolution so take your time and let every moment count.
 
DLD thanks. I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that is accessible on this forum.


6OCT13
Morning.
Changed it up and did girth. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Male extra[/words] pills taken. Wore autox sleeve and supra rop for thirty minutes prior to warm up.
Warm up with hot shower and 60 JAI stretches, up down left right and out

Kegels 2 minutes,
5 second kegels 1 minute
1 minute super kegel
1 minute reverse kegels


6 minute of jelqing (2 up 2 down 2 out) at 50%
7 minutes of jelqing at 90%. Rotating up down and out.

2 minutes of a manual clamping jelq I like to throw on at the end. Basically stimulate my self to 100%, clamp off at the base! stimulate and kegel to get fully engorged and hold the clamp for a minute! repeat twice.

Applied hydro cortisone cream.

I threw on the cock ring, only on the shaft for the clamping jelq, and left it on for 30 minutes afterwards. I need to get some different cock rings. These are a harder rubber style and are not tight enough to keep me engorged past 30 minutes. So, I edged for 30 minutes to keep a little more blood in there.


Just to keep with the days theme of change up...I through on a length session after wards.
Hot shower warm up
1.5 minute stretches up, left, right, BTC down, BTC left, BTC right
2 minutes straight out.

Afterwards, I put the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] on, with a new twist. The base is not uncomfortable to me, but I had read some people found it uncomfortable so when I got my Xsleeve I ordered their universal silicone base padding. I used the padding, which due to the added spacer put my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] in between the first and second hex markings.

I have only used the first hex marking, and can definetly fill the tension. I would not say the base padding necessarily makes the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] any more comfortable....for me.

I will extend for 2 hours before going to work, at which point in time I'll throw the Xsleeve on until I get home. If I get off work in time I may pick up some different cock rings and throw in a six minute girth session, just to keep the penis guessing.

I got an email from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words], and should have my pump in a day or two. Excited.

I am still waiting on the leech oils, but they are still in the window for their shipping time.

I had a slight issue with the ex making a change of address for my house, and she marked family. So my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] video and power stretcher are probably getting delivered to her today. Hopefully my brother in law can get the package for me. I would really like to start using the stretcher.


At the end of next week I will be done with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and will start with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] program as prescribed. I am excited to take some measurements at that time. However, I recognize that getting blown out of our base, moving, lack of privacy, etc, has effected some of my gains. It's hard to get a good jelq in when a guy is sitting in a stall next to you shitting.

I took an extra 3 weeks to finish the 5 week program to compensate for missing days.
 
Oe13it;569975 said:
DLD thanks. I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that is accessible on this forum.

What I appreciate most is seeing Brothers use the vast library we have created to better themselves! Godspeed on your Growth my Brother!
 
Oe13it;569975 said:
DLD thanks. I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that is accessible on this forum.

What I appreciate most is seeing Brothers use the vast library we have created to better themselves! Godspeed on your Growth my Brother!
 
DLD,
That attitude is prevalent in your posting, and one of the main reasons I consider this my home for Penis Enlargement. Additionally, it's why I felt comfortable buying the most expensive membership here, was a deciding factor in the other Penis Enlargement equipment I have purchased.

I put this out there because I know other lurkers are wondering if they can trust their money to be spent here. That's why I put the purchases I have made in my sig. I will do a full write up in appropriate places to help give others that confidence as well.

I would like to put out there, I ordered the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] max gains package. The most expensive one. I ordered it through the DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] link that makes it $120 instead of $160. Apparently a lot of us lurkers miss his discount threads and pay $160. He has a discount thread and it works.

Shipping was fast. Actually too fast. I ordered everything to arrive with in a few days of getting back. We got delayed in a beautiful country in Europe with topless women...for two days. It got delivered to my estranged wife yesterday, the 6th of Novemeber. I ordered it the 29th of October. They actually tried to deliver it to my house on the 2nd of November. If you include my day of ordering that is 5 calendar days until the first delivery, plus about 3 emails in regards to the package.

That is customer service.

However, my estranged wife, unknowingly to me had moved out of our house and suBathmateitted a change of address, and served me divorce papers. Therefore when USPS tried to deliver on the 2nd, and I was still traveling home from Afghanistan, they rerouted the package her. On USPS's website they marked that the package was undeliverable and headed back to the sender. (Talking to USPS I found out she had marked family for the change instead of individual however, they were re routing it to her change of address and nothing could be done about that).

At that time I sent an email to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], telling them I would contact USPS and see what I could do, but asked that if the product was returned, I wanted it and would pay the additional shipping to get it re-sent.

Within 4 hours I had a personal email back, saying they would work with me.

That is above and beyond. So, no hesitations recommending [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] RECOMMENDED products to anyone.


Unfortunately, do to the change of address the package was delivered yesterday to the ex...and she has no penis so it will do no benefit for her. So I am hoping my brother in law can get the package for me. (Restraining order).

At this time, if that doesn't work, the best I could hope is for some sort of small discount for having to order the product twice, even though it is not [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]'s responsibility or problem.

I put this out there not to air my dirty laundry, but becuase I know there are other lurkers who are hesitant to order the package. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is legit, has great customer service, and is working with me. I recommend you quit wasting time, if you can afford $120.

Additionally, the videos alone on the paid site are worth the money I spent. I know it sounds noobish, but it felt good to finally at least know I'm doing the 'basic jelq'. Correctly. However, wanting to start the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] program next week, I really hope to get the power stretcher shortly here. Damn ex.



That all aside....
7OCT13
Length work out.
Hot shower with 60 JAI stretches followed by
1.5 minutes BTC down, BTC Left, BTC right, up, left, right, straight out
20 cranks ten each direction.

Got out of shower and put [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] on with base pad. I set the tension to what I believe is 900 the first line on the hex adjusters. That is unless this [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] was shipped with the new 2300g springs...then I am unsure what tension I am using. But this definetly an active stretch.

I would throw out there, after I our base blew up a month and a half ago, I picked smoking up again. I will be quitting shortly because I definitely feel it makes my dick smaller. My veins don't bulge and engorgement takes more work. I have been under butt loads of stress since starting the basic warm up program...base leveled. Ate one piece of nan bread for a month while we rebuilt housing and life support...two investigations, one for property and now one for the ex. The stress makes a negative impact on my libido and EQ.

additionally for today's work out, we received the rest of our guys last night, and threw back some beers...so I felt my work out this morning was lack luster and affected by it all.

I'm only stating this to keep a good log. It doesn't matter if you go to the gym and lift the weights, it's how you lift them...and today, beer, cigarettes, and stress gave me a poor work out.

I am waiting until this evening to get a good girth session.
 
Quick same day update...I logged 2.5 hours in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] after the length work out. Followed up with Xsleeve while going to the lawyers office. Threw the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] back on for 1 hour while going back to work. Xsleeve 3 hours at work.

1 minute of quick kegels, 2 minutes of 5 second kegels, 1 minute super kegel while driving.

And am back on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] that I am at home.

I like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Mentality of always training. I have been taking the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (sg or XSleeve) Off about once and hour and doing 20 cranks, 10 JAI's, and one 30 second down stretch when possible, or at work just doing a little light massage to get good blood flow back in.

Additionally, as I become more comfortable with the equipment I am sure I could probably wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at work on low settings for most days. Tonight I finally configured the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] to wear with my Supra RoP.

Maybe I'm eccentric but every little bit helps and focus 100% of the time. Things still on my want list are the monkey spanker and an IR heat lamp/or massager.


Good news on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] package, supposedly the estranged father in law recieved it and will return it to me.

Still waiting on the redzulu recommended leech oils and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words]....
 
Penomet is in Salt Lake City... Hopefully here this weekend!

Last night missed my optional girth session.


This morning, I changed up my warm up and length location......


Hot tub at 104 degrees. Results. Amazing.


Warm up. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Male extra[/words] pills.
Testicle massage for one minute with 60 ball and shaft tugs at the end.

Kegels:
60 quick kegels
40 5 second kegels
1 x super 1 minute kegel
40 reverse kegels


Jai stretch warm up
20 each: straight out, up, left, right, down.


Length stretching:
2 minutes each with one minute rest in between: straight out, up, left, right, BTC down, BTC Right, BTC Left.

20 cranks clock wise
20 cranks counter clock wise.

First off... This was the best length workout I've had. All was done in the hot tub. Normally I do it in the shower. I don't know if it's just finally having the privacy and consistency, or being in the hot tub...but my stretches were farther, I could feel that mental image of getting more inner penis out, and more shaft stretching.

Put on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] afterwards with RoP and maxed out the tension with my current bar configuration. Will try to wear this for 4 hours with re-stimulation every 45 minutes to an hour. Then go into XSleeve.
 
Wore the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 3.5 hours.


Girth
Warm up in hot tub, consisting of penis massage.
20 minutes of jelqing, varying up down and straight out. 9 minutes at 60% eq, 11 minutes at 90 Eq
5 minutes of manual clamping.

Cock ring worn for an hour afterwards to keep girth. Then moving back into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sg[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for the rest of the day.
 
I am a fan of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Titan[/words] pills. They will help with girth sessions when your dick may normally become fatigued. Plus they also keep heavy flaccid which may promote better recover.
 
I have the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Titan[/words] pills coming with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Package. Hopefully should get that tonight from the estranged father in law. If so, I am going to have to have an extra length session tonight to try out the power stretcher.
 
Got the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] package last night from the estranged father in law. Product was as described. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words], and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Titan[/words] Pills. Deliver was fast - unfortunately for me in this case that caused a delay in getting the product - however that was not [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]'s issue or fault. Like I stated before, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] was quick to respond when I highlighted the issue and wrote that they would work with me. In my opinion, that is quality customer service.

I will use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]titan[/words] pills after I run out of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]male extra[/words] pills that came with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words].

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words], though I haven't used it yet, is a quality product. It was not cheaply made, and is worth the price of membership.

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] is phenomenal. Also, in itself worth the price of the membership. For $120 this package is a steal.

9NOV13

length:
Hot tub warm up/all exercises done in hot tub (really a great way to start the morning)

testicle massage

2 minutes of quick kegels
2 minutes of 5 sec kegels
2 x 1 minute super kegels
1 minute of reverse kegels


100 JAI stretches (20 x straight out, up, left, right, down)

17.5 minutes of basic stretches
(2.5 minute stretch each: straight out, up, left, right, BTC down, BTC left, BTC right)

40 Cranks (20 clockwise, 20 counter Clockwise)


applied hydrocortisone cream [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] - going for 4 hours followed by Xsleeve


over all a very solid work out this morning. I really felt the mental connection with every stretch
 
Wore the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 4 hours this morning.

actually got a little adventurous. I had been adjusting the tension every hour, and by hour three I had maxed it out with the ease of going for 1 hour before re-stimulating.

I ran to the store (because this [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is so comfortable and easy to use, and easy to put under jeans), and 1 hour later, at max tension I was not feeling pain, but enough discomfort to know I needed to re-stimulate.... at 1 hour and 20 minutes I felt a 'twinge' spike through my penis and then spine. there was no pain what so ever, and still is no pain.

I got out to the car, took the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] off, and noticed a very slight 'spaghetti' bulge for about a 1/4 inch on the left side near the base on the side.

I did some research on this thread and read about ligament popping and thrombosis. i'll be honest.. at this point in time I don't think or know that I had either of them, or have either of them..

I had to go to get pots and pans to cook with, and so an hour after seeing/feeling this, and suspecting at that time it might be thrombosis, I spent 20 minutes in the hot tub with very light penis massage. prior to this, the initial bulge had gone away. after wards.. no bulge what so ever.

I put the supra RoP on to help blood flow just in case it was thrombosis.

4 hours later, penis felt fine enough to do my girth session.

Girth work out:
10 minutes in hot tub to warm up.. with light penis massaging.

20 minutes of jelqing - 8 minutes at 65%, 12 at 90%. jelgs up and down
at the end tossed on two cock rings, one around cock and balls, second around just the shaft with the elastic comfort band from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and edged for 5 minutes. this is a new combination for the cock rings to try to keep the engorgement a little longer.

I am at 45 minutes and in the last 15 have lost a significant amount of engorgement, but am still plumper than normal.

I will keep an eye on the 'potential' bulged spot. during this girth session I did notice a vein or bulge there, that looked normal and is a spot that I have a vein in my penis. I felt no pain or discomfort. furthermore, I recognize, I had increased my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] time by an hour, and tried to go out where I couldn't modify it, and was rocking the max tension (which I have done, but only at home for about 45 minutes)... so, I probably did a nooob mistake here as I am discovering my boundaries and what my penis calls enough or too much.

one thing odd about my penis, is I have a big vein, I would call it massive for me, that goes up the center top and then goes left down around the middle of the shaft. I don't have a similar one on the right side... this new, potential thrombosis is also on the left, not on the right... so my penis seems to be more 'veiny' of the left.... weird.


additionally, my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penoment[/words] was out for delivery today here, but I didn't receive it.. I have a feeling the same issue I had with the ex and usps is probably going to rise again and I 'll have to get it from my estranged father in law.

talked about effed up.. hey father in law, can I get my pump back,, my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] stretcher back... and my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] back..

I did not go into the Xsleeve afterwards due to this.
 
the other thing i'd throw out there, is while wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] I am using the silicone base pad for Xsleeves. Initially where this bulge was, was right after the pad, which does kind of 'clamp' off the penis, especially with pressure from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

once again, both products are wonderfull products. this is just a noob figuring out how much is too much, and probably going to hard to fast.
 
I ordered the monkey spanker from Bathmates today, due to DLD's recommendation in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread, as well as a TDP Infrared Far Lamp.

with these two items, that should pretty much complete my Penis Enlargement gear for the near future. I will use the monkey spanker in conjunction with warm up and warm down's... and the lamp for both as well (and when i'm not using the hot tub for stretches) i'll I use the lamp throughout the work out.

Additionally, I see myself eventually getting some clamping / hanging equipment. I do enjoy the 'manual' clamping I do at the end of a girth work out. it feels great, and I believe it helps me make girth gains.
 
i have been slowly digesting and watching my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] max gains [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words].. Once again, i can not recommend this product enough. I see so many questions and confusion here with us newbies that would be fixed by this [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words].. The membership is worth it.

I have been eying my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power assist[/words] stretch tool with envy. And knowing i am an individual who goes 200% into any endevour have practiced great patience trying to make through the last week of my phase 1 from the membership without throwing more onto the plate.

I am looking forward to A stretches with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]....

I am curious though.. for phase two, is there a way to encorporate the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] that I should have shortly? I know of DLD's 'newbie [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] routine"... but i want to go with the 10 years of experience, the tried and true 5 phase [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] program.... ------------------------------

major interruption - door knock.... package at feet.... [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] has arrived..... . so excited. -----------------------

i was thinking about just doing the program as prescribed in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] and on the members website... and just throwing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] in every other day or so for 'fun time' as i get acquainted with it...

any suggestions on Phase 2 if you have a pump? I don't want to push myself too hard and run into hard gains later.. but i have always, wanted to pump. and am going to cut this short to go check this out.

word.
 
i will check you guys out later... Christmas just came early..

initial impressions... packaging.. wow.. professional (same as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], i mean the box that came in, is quality, like this one).. product. feels quality.. i'lll see you guys later. i have a shower calling my name.
 
allright... product is excellent.. but noob over here needs some time, re-reading, and practicing in order to get this thing down.

I was able to get a suction.. when in flaccid... but my head kept getting stuck against the wall. definitely felt the suction - holy crap - either I've never met the right girl or this something different... from oral sex.

like i said, product is great... i can't believe i got the premium and was worried about not getting the new 85' gator... the base gator will take me long enough..
 
I have mostly always pumped as the finale of my girth sessions. My thinking behind this was let's fill up the volume I pushed with manual exercises and hold it there for the duration of the pumping session. Lately pumping is a higher priority to me than my jelqs. I just like it and have invested enough in it that demands to be used. I think you would be fine pumping every day. If you are familiar with the physiological indicators (PI), I would take a day or two off til those improve. Should have those problems though if you are supplementing with those male extras or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]titan[/words] pills.

The theory of pushing too hard too early... As I understand DLD made huge gains early. He was hitting his exercises throughout the day and beyond doing the Newbie just once a day. In my own experience, when I have my most involved routines, I was seeing changes. My only problem was that I would burnout on focus or life interrupted me and if I wasn't doing it all then I didn't keep at it.
 
PJ - thanks for the reply, and it's obvious from your post that you have spent the time to read what I assume, only I am interested enough to read. Means a lot. Thanks.

I am familiar with the PI's.. but because I am a noob - i have to read and re-read things, for them to become wrote memory. Based off your recommendation, i will look at doing a pumping session at the end of the girth routines in phase 2. I like your way of looking at that. THat's part of the reason i edge/manual clamp at the end of them now.

I want to make sure I force blood into the shaft after that work out, and it feels good anyways.

I am really surprised - and i attribute it to both the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Male extra[/words] pills and supra's RoP - i am 8 years in the military, on the Officer side of the house, and part of an eclectic small group of quiet professionals. I had minor TBI (traumatic brain injury) 6 weeks ago - that i was able to circumvent through answering questions 'correctly', i am under investigation over property, and the divorce. i picked up temporarily smoking, and as per my post deployment standard operating procedure, I've drank like there is no tomorrow.. my world is - full of land mines right now... and i am not giving my body the right environment to grow. (i put on 40lbs of muscle - no steroids - in 12 weeks - i have a fair idea how my body responds to 'change' and adaptation)

historically, in such a situation, my EQ sucks. Not so now... my skin is going to explode.

when it came to gaining muscle i was a hard gainer. I had to knuckle down and monitor every nutrient that went in and when... and write out a program that i stuck with. I expect, i will have a similar experience with the average guy down there.

what i have also noticed with my body for muscle gaining, was that i don't follow the normal 'bro science'.... i needed to beat my body twice a day, with maybe one day off a week. that day off, i had to super load nutrients.

when i did traditional 2/1 or 3/1 splits... my body pretty much said i'm not adapting. I've always had to beat the body bad, to get adaptation.

once again.. thanks man. i'd have to imagine this thread is boring to anyone other than me - even here - yet - the brother hood continues to amaze me.
 
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