Riven650;318251 said:
In the same way that most of us guys don't choose our girlfriends by breast size, women don't choose their partners based upon cock size either But women - lots of women - obsess about the size/shape of their breasts, and look at us right here, right now, obsessing about cock size ;o)

My wife agrees with me that after she gave birth to our son, her vagina never recovered it's former size. She is enjoying the results of my pe efforts because she now feels as full when we fuck as she did years ago. So her 'ideal penis size' has grown over the years, but it wouldn't have if I hadn't managed to 'grow' a little myself. What I mean is that it would never have occurred to her to 'want' more size if it had never occurred to me to try to provide it. That's the kind of woman she is. A real nice woman. And she loves me - not cock size.

That's a good point. Before Penis Enlargement my wife would say I was big. It took me awhile to figure out she was talking about my girth because I knew I wasn't long. My beginning girth was 5.5 which I guess is above the average.

I did Penis Enlargement in secret for years because I knew she would say not to, but after I grew in length I discovered that for her she had an A spot or what others call a culdesac.

When I finally told her about Penis Enlargement she was like, "How do you know that works?" I'm like ummm you know that spot I "discovered"? Well it wasn't from technique ;)

So if a woman doesn't have an A spot but a G-spot length wouldn't be an issue for her but girth.

I don't see anything wrong with what we're doing as long as we deal with reality. Realizing that just because we gain or we're a certain size isn't the end of what we need to do with ourselves.

Developing marketable skills to provide for a family, being nice and treating others the way you want to be treated, understanding the need for grace and forgiveness in a relationship if it is to survive, keeping ourselves in descent physical shape so our mate will be attracted to us.
 
The only way to find this question out for sure: do a study!

Get a bunch of women to try a series of dildos. They should probably range from 4.5"x4" to 9"x7". The women would then be left alone in a room to try as many as they like, then report back which was their favorite.

Pretty simple, but I think a study like this would be revolutionary.
 
Women dont know what they want at the end of the day and the perfect fit is what? exactly. They want to be filled and not stuffed, well your going to need to sleep with several men at least in order to find the right fit ... where did old morals such as admiration, love, respect go? I blame the media and T.V for this warped thinking women have with size nowadays and sure I think that most dont want it bigger but they still have no fucking idea about size and how the whole issue when they talk about is often done insensitive and guys do have feelings about the subject ... better than having to worry about a sagging ass and tits I suppose.
 
most girls like a huge penis not only for the physical satisfaction it's also a visual turn on....I'd say around 75% of women whud like ATLEAST 9X7
 
If a woman says penis size matters, she should try to get my 9x5.5 all inside her and then say it again :P. Seriously, with all respect I have of women, but I think they don't know what they want if it comes to penis size, of course I don't mean all of them but some haha.
 
I dnt think women are all that turned on by a small or average cock even though they might say it's "fine"

those of u that have committed reationships can back me up on this I bet your partner became a lot more excited at your enarged penis
 
Xeyanex;356684 said:
I dnt think women are all that turned on by a small or average cock even though they might say it's "fine"

those of u that have committed reationships can back me up on this I bet your partner became a lot more excited at your enarged penis

Yes, I can back you up on this. My girlfriend was in a long time marriage to an &%?hole. Everytime we become intimate the first thing that she's interested in feeling is my dick (and we've been together now for 5 years so it's not some new thing). I think her ex had a little one and she is fascinated by something of a more substantial size.
 
GrowthSpurts;356685 said:
Yes, I can back you up on this. My girlfriend was in a long time marriage to an &%?hole. Everytime we become intimate the first thing that she's interested in feeling is my dick (and we've been together now for 5 years so it's not some new thing). I think her ex had a little one and she is fascinated by something of a more substantial size.

thnx for the info, proofs in the puddin man.....
 
my girlfriend complains i go 'too deep' when i put it all in, so go figure. i want a big cock always, but i like the feelin of gettin it all in too, so i dunno.
 
I believe it is us guys that want that because we all watch adult entertainment and see these guys banging out with fine ass women. Plus amongst guys we all feel that whos is bigger is more manly so to say you know but with mine I mean i am just average and have not had any ladies complain (yet) and now they shouldnt ever now that i started Penis Enlargement :)
 
Riven650;318251 said:
There are several things that make us think women prefer big cocks. For instance, I have heard women say of an ex-partner things like. "... and he had a small dick anyway". I think that always smacks of trying to put him down in order to bolster her own ego that got damaged in the break-up. And women do seem to really enjoy cock size related jokes. I think it gives them a feeling of power over us. Like, we're stronger than them, but they know how to get (most of) us where it hurts - ie. right in the insecurities.


The very best comeback to that line I ever heard was one night, through the walls of my old apartment, as I eavesdropped on my constantly-at-war neighbors:
HER: "Yeah, and what about your shrimp dick!?!?"
HIM: "Bitch, I only gave you as much as you deserved!!"

Each point has its individual merits.
At least these two were fun to listen to.
 
MAXAMEYES;356735 said:
Riven650;318251 said:
There are several things that make us think women prefer big cocks. For instance, I have heard women say of an ex-partner things like. "... and he had a small dick anyway". I think that always smacks of trying to put him down in order to bolster her own ego that got damaged in the break-up. And women do seem to really enjoy cock size related jokes. I think it gives them a feeling of power over us. Like, we're stronger than them, but they know how to get (most of) us where it hurts - ie. right in the insecurities.


The very best comeback to that line I ever heard was one night, through the walls of my old apartment, as I eavesdropped on my constantly-at-war neighbors:
HER: "Yeah, and what about your shrimp dick!?!?"
HIM: "Bitch, I only gave you as much as you deserved!!"

Each point has its individual merits.
At least these two were fun to listen to.

rofl haha thats hella funny!
 
Xeyanex;356676 said:
most girls like a huge penis not only for the physical satisfaction it's also a visual turn on....I'd say around 75% of women whud like ATLEAST 9X7

I totally doubt that. 9x7 is a ridiculously large size. I'd guess that less than 25% of women could even take 9x7 without hurting.
 
homelesswombat;356771 said:
I totally doubt that. 9x7 is a ridiculously large size. I'd guess that less than 25% of women could even take 9x7 without hurting.

u'd be surprised how many women can take a size like that if u ease it in at first
 
Do you not think the girlfreind or partner became more excited because aswell, of who she was/is with? i.e. someone she LOVES and likes allot VS just seeing a larger penis? this is my thoughts and thinking outside the box ... bigger is not better to women but a women you love and who loves you will for obvious reasons become excited.
 
stretcharmstrng;356724 said:
my girlfriend complains i go 'too deep' when i put it all in, so go figure. i want a big cock always, but i like the feelin of gettin it all in too, so i dunno.

Snap.

If i put it all in, she's uncomfortable but it fits perfectly in if i put it all in. Not much is left out, however i want a bigger cock.

It's just judging what is best, personal ego or her comfort.
 
Xeyanex;356676 said:
most girls like a huge penis not only for the physical satisfaction it's also a visual turn on....I'd say around 75% of women whud like ATLEAST 9X7

Correct me if I'm wrong but average is 5.5"-7 right? And it is rare to find penises that are over 9" unless Penis Enlargement is used correct? So if both of these statements are true why would women want something that is so much larger than what is usually available. I am 32 and experienced and bad at measuring, but if I had to guess I would say that 1 guy I was with was above average maybe 7.5"-8"(just a guess). 2 were below average and the rest were average. Meaning that if I slept with 100 guys(no I haven't) then the numbers would be 97% were average 1% were above average and 2% were below average. I'd say the odds are against me to find another guy at above average and really against me at finding one that is over 9 inches unless they are on this site.
 
FemaleInfluence;356816 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but average is 5.5"-7 right? And it is rare to find penises that are over 9" unless Penis Enlargement is used correct? So if both of these statements are true why would women want something that is so much larger than what is usually available. I am 32 and experienced and bad at measuring, but if I had to guess I would say that 1 guy I was with was above average maybe 7.5"-8"(just a guess). 2 were below average and the rest were average. Meaning that if I slept with 100 guys(no I haven't) then the numbers would be 97% were average 1% were above average and 2% were below average. I'd say the odds are against me to find another guy at above average and really against me at finding one that is over 9 inches unless they are on this site.

7" is on the big side really. 5.5-6 is closer to average
 
doublelongdaddy;356831 said:
5.5 average

I'm just not so sure anymore we've all heard that the average is 5.5-6" but I think the average is closer to 7"-7.5" there are TONS of guys out there that have 8" Personally I think Girth is where guys really start to differ.....
 
doublelongdaddy;356831 said:
5.5 average

Okay we have established that I don't know what average is, but the point is 9x7" is probably not the average women want. I would say that most women prefer an average sized penis and the real kicker is we think it is bigger than it really is.
 
I think it's different for most girls. Finding a girl to discuss it with you openly and honestly is tough. Most girls either aren't experienced enough, are afraid to hurt feelings, etc... Maybe someone could hire a hooker, and instead of fucking her, sit her down and talk about this for an hour. Try to get a girl that isn't high as fuck on God knows what, and a girl that has at least a room temperature IQ. That's tough to do with an escort, but I'm sure they are out there. I would think you'd have better luck getting an answer that route than anything else.

My girl has never been with anyone bigger than me (I'm 6.25 x 4.85) so she doesn't KNOW if she wants a bigger penis. She can guess until the sky falls on her, but since she's never experienced it, she doesn't really know. We have talked about trying some different sized dildo's to see if a larger penis is something she would truly desire but haven't moved on the idea yet. Our sex life is great right now, we both orgasm regularly, so as long as that keeps up I don't really see the need to explore the maximum size that she would enjoy. However, I'll still do Penis Enlargement almost every day. Weird... I don't need to be bigger to please her, yet I still plan to do Penis Enlargement...

She was the reason I started Penis Enlargement, I wanted to please her more. Even though our sex life is great, I can't help but wonder if our sex life would be even better if I were larger. Ultimately, until she tells me to stop, I will continue Penis Enlargement.

The psychology behind it is strange though.

As far as women commenting on small cocks in an effort to hurt someone, that is all they are doing. Attacking someone who hurt them somehow.
 
Lately most of the woman I've been with have had kids. They prefer a bigger dick for sure. There is no doubt in my mind. It has alot to do with ones personality of course but with a decent personality and a big dick women will love you... simple.
 
homelesswombat;356623 said:
The only way to find this question out for sure: do a study!

Get a bunch of women to try a series of dildos. They should probably range from 4.5"x4" to 9"x7". The women would then be left alone in a room to try as many as they like, then report back which was their favorite.

Pretty simple, but I think a study like this would be revolutionary.

That would be, indeed, a great way to study if SIZE (and nothing but size) matters or not. The only problem is that, unless we're just talking about no-strings-attached sex, we cannot analize the size alone.
We've all heard about how women need much more than just a stick to shag in a relationship. They need the attention, the love, the caresses, etc. That is why this whole subject hasn't had any decent conclusion yet.
There's a saying here in Portugal that "as long as you have a finger and a tongue, you can face any woman" (something along those lines). This kind of supports the theory that size, alone, isn't that important. "It's the motion of the ocean", as they say.
It's the same for us, guys. I'm a boobs man. I prefer them from 38Cs and above. I like handfulls. However, I've been with women that hadn't such large breasts. Did I fail to get any pleasure from their boobs? Not at all. Since I'm no Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler, a 36B is more than enough to fill my mouth, and that's all I need to satisfy my oral urge to suck on them.
Bigger tits are much more a visual and psychological thing than a physical one. Are they more pleasurable? If you put the visual, psychological and physical stymulus together, YES, i find that bigger boobs are more pleasurable. But what I mean is that the fact that they are MORE pleasurable doesn't mean that I don't get a great kick from smaller boobs too, and I believe that's what many men forget when it comes to penis size.
Evolution has made a 5.5" penis the average, i. e., the majority, for a reason. It's because, in time, this proved to be the most suited size for the average, i. e., the majority of women. And evolution is hardly wrong when it comes to averages.

So, all things considered, I believe a big penis (not necessarily huge, just above average), is good for the following reasons:
• it is visually more attractive to women
• they may get the feeling their man is more manly, and thus a good biological choice for their offspring
• it may help you to reach more nerves in side her (not granted, you still need to know what you're doing =P)
• and, most important of all, I believe it can make you a better lover just because it makes you more confident (whoever said the most important organ in sex was the brain was absolutely right).

Being dumped just because of your dick size is like dumping a girl because of her breast size. Unless all you're looking for is some unnattached sex, it is damn shallow, meaning that is not the person you will want to share your life with.

So, to sum it up, I believe penis size is, in fact, much more important to us than it is for women, and when we feel insecure about it we let it show in our attitudes towards the fair sex.

We are doing this, basically, for ourselves.
 
savageblue;357075 said:
So, to sum it up, I believe penis size is, in fact, much more important to us than it is for women

Thats it^^^
 
FemaleInfluence;353282 said:
OMG I wouldn't have believed this unless I saw it. Kinda scary...?:(
http://www.bigsextoystore.com/cgi-bin/edatcat/BTSstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=GD8210

Is this a futuristic skyscraper? Maybe... but it looks sort of like... a horsie dildo?

Whatever it looks like to you, this is one monstrous dildo! The Sky Rise Dong is 20" long, about 18" of which is insertable. The other dimensions are:

Thickness Circumference
Widest part of the head 3.75" 11.5"
Directly under the head 3" 10.5"
First fold 3.75" 11.25"
Second fold 4.5" 14"
Just above the base 5.5" 16.25"
Widest part of the base 6.25"

19"

This toy is oval in shape, and there's a slight ridge on the back that you can see in picture 3.

This is an extreme toy for advanced players. Are you ready to ride?

So that's the one that caught your eye then? :s
 
First problem was mention on a previous post and it mentions how a woman might be labeled if she admitted her true needs / wants. Knowing that sex with women is more of an emotional than a physical want, at least thats what a lot of the psych books claim, ladies deal with in what they want. Ultimately what really is the truth ? Women change their needs / wants so frequently its hard to keep track.

The second issue if a female is being honest about size is how that requirement changes according to mood. I have heard from several good sources that depending on how "in the mood" one is depends on what size man or vibrator she wants at any given moment. Many may claim ;one size fits all but I know from experience that given a choice if she "really wants it" out comes the larger toys, however if its just a quickie, then the smaller stuff suits her just fine. Sidebar note....just because you may have a larger dick does not a good lover make. I was the chosen one over a larger guy because I knew how to "deliver the goods", and that has a lot of truth too it. I have to tell you guys, there is no ego booster like being chosen over a 'larger" dude, especially when she is playing each of you against each other. I mean, seriously, I always knew when my gf was cheating on me because she was way looser than I remembered, I am telling you it was a real shot to my ego, 1 being cheated on and 2 being the smaller one..., I of course nailed her on it and confronted her about it, why was she cheating on me but at the time I did not care, I was young and learning .... but at the same time her needs were not being met (sexually, emotionally etc ) by her first bf. Later in our relationship after I made her chose him or me, she would say later on that I was "almost as large" and that sometimes I would be even larger but I knew otherwise. While being a young thing she did get tighter over time maybe I grew I don't know.... it I was always in my mind competing against the "stud". But that made me try harder and be a better lover. Education is the key !

I guess there is a fine balance to what fits, what works, what is too big / small but given the opportunity to answer honestly, anonymously most women I believe like the larger ride given a choice at their peak during any given month. A big prick is not the height of romance but I am sure its a bonus if you have one. (no offense to my larger brothers here )

The last issue is of course across demographics, as a woman ages her equipment naturally stretches (and older men shrink except here...ha ha) and might be able to take and enjoy a larger man, however given most monogamous relationships do not provide the variety for a comprehensive analysis you might find some interesting changes across age groups. Young girls being firmer and tighter might not like a large one, where as an older 30+ or 40+ or 50+ older woman would....I am curious how that would graph out.

What say you, ladies ?

I would be really interested in the survey results should they ever be posted.






us_new_kids;353269 said:
From my experience, some women MAY be visually stimulated by the sight of a large penis, but when it comes down to actually using it, they don't want it too big. As far as girth, it causes them pain when it's too thick, to the point where they may not even cum because of the discomfort. e.g the girl I am with right now isabout 5'6" so she is not small in any way, but she has pain when we have sex specially if i have pumped/done girth work earlier that day which usually puts my girth to around 6.4"-5.8" (base-to-tip). As far as length, I always DID argue that no matter how long you are, you should have no problem as long as you only use as much as the girl can take. BUT, one thing should be noted, and that's that women (specially when romantically involved with the man) like to take ALL of it in, because it makes them the sex feel more intimate, and makes them feel closer to the man. e.g My girl always tries to push me in all the way even though she finds it painful when I go all in @ about 7.5-8" long.

Nonetheless, she always jokes about why it's "so big", and that she wishes she could bite off half of it so it's smaller lol, and I think she actually DOES wish it was smaller, because she thinks sex would be more comfortable then. That still doesn't mean I am planning to stop Penis Enlargement anytime soon though :P
 
Old thread but with some very good points made on the whole women size preference and this is one is based on sales of vibrators.
 
Hey Red, thanks for finding and pulling up these older posts. It's amazing how much quality is buried deep in the back of this forum. Figured I'd say thanks for you doing it - I know it takes up your time to find them.
 
No probz but it just goes to show that these sales confirm many things I have already discussed in the Mental Penis Enlargement section HERE that BIG size is much more important to the male than the female and its like men wanting to look like huge hulk's in the gym, which often repels women. Its the guy who has some muscle but is in shape that they prefer over a huge meat head, but try telling that to the insecure male who assumes otherwise. Same with most things in life regarding males and power, they think MORE is best ... it isn't.
 
There was one research study where they would show women different size dildoes and then insert them and ask how they felt. What they discovered with that study was that the women would tell them it felt better even if they switched it and inserted a average size one after showing the huge one. The women thought it was bigger so they convinced themselves they were getting the boring of their life even though they weren't.

My personal experience is that once I reached 7.5+, girls thought that was pretty big. If 5.5 is average then 7.5 IS huge.

One girl made nice comments about it and really liked it. Then I gained maybe 1/8th more and she started to complain it was too long. After that I never got to really tear it up and go deep like I wanted to, because she would double up in pain from it.

Another problem was that the 5.5 head girth to 6+ base girth was too much for anal sex. I couldn't even get it in her because she was too small back there. She was kind of bummed out about it because she wanted it up her ass but it literally felt like I was tearing her a new asshole just trying to put it in. Not long after that she dumped me.

Be careful what you wish for with Pe it may ruin your fun.
 
AdmiralLongDong;370656 said:
Be careful what you wish for with Pe it may ruin your fun.

You know Admiral, I find this holds true for a lot of things in life.

Red, I totally agree with what you're saying. It's lilke Admiral pointed out, a lot of women say they want a big dick but when it comes to actually sticking it in them they often have a different opinion. I had a friend who had a lot of girl and he slept with my ex girlfriends sister...she said it wasn't that fun because it actually was painful. Don't get me wrong, there are some women who can take a whole lot of dick but I think they're in the minority. Of course this is based on my experience and has no scientific data backing it up that I know of. I think the same thing goes for your example of muscle size. There were only a very few women I know who were interested in the bodybuilding physique. Most of them wanted a guy who was in good shape, low body fat, and some muscle definition...and of course, confidence.
 
Glad we're seeing sense here or should I say, glad to know guys are here that see things like myself. I remember about 2 years ago when I was in town clubbing it with a few mates and we met some girls he and I knew, they were out for guys like we were out for girls. We sat and got messing about while drinking, chatting about shit than one of them was talking about dicks and said she wanted to fuck a big fat cock by the end of the night.

I secretly smiled inside and thought ''RIGHT THAN''. It wasn't hard to seduce her, when your intoxicated and horny ... well you all know the score, she was hot though and no minger by any stretch. I took her outside in the park near the club and we got kissing. I was really erect but not fully 100%. I whipped my pants down and swung my cock out in front of her face while she was on her knees ready to suck me and she was gob smacked ... was just mesmerized by its size and couldn't stop going on and on about how huge it was, how thick it was and that she wouldn't be able to fuck me.

Anyway she managed to blow my head and some shaft, we got more into it and I tore her skirt and thong off and bent her over the park bench and licked her cunt before trying to enter that tight pussy but it wouldn't go. She was moaning in pain as I pushed it harder and harder. I managed to get a tiny bit in but she didn't like it at all and said it hurt like crazy. I said sorry .. I wasn't and got her to let me spunk all over her face .. so I did and rubbed it all over her cheap fucking make-up, bit nasty but I did it because she made such a fuss over wanting a big cock at the start of the night and how it relates to this thread is that she couldn't take it at all and moaned like crazy about it being so big and I was 7 3/4 inches erect at the time but with the usual insane girth.

Point of the story is that females don't know what they want and when they say BIG its not B I G like we, us men think but more like big average in our heads or just over average.
 
6.5 x 5 :) That is where I started....ahhhhh...I never needed Penis Enlargement *searches for penis reduction forum*
 
You should make a sub-forum here for guys with horse cocks that require reduction surgery. I'm trained in it as it happens and my tools of the trade are the trusty hack saw and machete. On a serious note please check the recent thread I wrote in the mod room on the idea with the sub-forums. Cheers
 
REDZULU2003;370682 said:
You should make a sub-forum here for guys with horse cocks that require reduction surgery. I'm trained in it as it happens and my tools of the trade are the trusty hack saw and machete. On a serious note please check the recent thread I wrote in the mod room on the idea with the sub-forums. Cheers

A sub forum for penis reduction may bring a lot of new guys (and girls) in. I will check your thread in a bit, thanks.
 
DLD I have the answer to your prayers...I am currently working at a strip club and I bet I can get a group of women together that will be brutally honest. Interested???
 
dude for the people who said 7 was average in length that is so not true lol average i would say can be anywhere between 5.5 to 6.5 i think would be average all the girls i have had sex with some said it was big but prolly didnt have the chance to have bigger and some liked it alot but never have had a girl say it was average haha im 7x5 but ya i agree with red girls cant measure i had a girl look at my dick in aww and i was soo confused lol cause she thought it was huge and of course that made me feel good but also that prolly just means shes just had average guys in her lol and also might i remind yall that some girls judge a guys package by his flacid size which we all know is a no no cause shit if a girl judged me by my flacid size of 3.5 to 4 inchs girls would be thinking im packing the small one haha as people allways say on here 8x6 is a good thing to hit cause to a single guy looking to hook up with an 8x6 u would please 95% of women out there with no problem shit even just a 8x5 wuold do the trick or a 7x6 or a 7,5x5.5 and remember guys even the average penis pleases alot of girls its all about how you handle her kiss her everywhere and such look deeply in her eyes ect ect makin a girl feel beautiful and foreplay is an amazing thing and even with an average package with some bad ass foreplay and makin a girl feel beautiful will give you and your girl great sex that she will never forget and shit guys lick the vagina lick it till she cant take it anymore she will forget about your penis size lol and if your not good at it just practice alot trust me the practice pays off haha
 
Guys, trying to define a universal size, a preference which is unique to the individual woman, is about as likely to happen as America abandoning capitalism in favor of communism.

I'l put it another way, having a Ramon sized schlong when trying to fuck a tiny petite Asian woman is most likely not going to wield positive results assuming you can fit in her at all.

I hope this makes sense.
 
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