I am bringing this thread back to life because I finally have some free time to invest into this project.
 
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Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
I am bringing this thread back to life because I finally have some free time to invest into this project.

Awesome! I cant wait to see the results.
 
http://terrisummers.adameveshops.co..._OtherSuggestions/product_id=7211/product.htm



Check out the reviews of the this penis-shaped dildo. It is 6.5 inches long, which in the distorted world of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]/Penis Enlargement is kinda small, but 2.0 inches wide, which is pretty substantial. The reviews posted by husbands and their wives are just glowing. It just shows that length is only so important for pleasuring women (it seems that most prefer something between 6 and 7 inches - long enough but not uncomfortable), but GIRTH is what really is important.



Many members have stated this before - reaching absurd penis dimensions thru Penis Enlargement is a 100% personal issue (to do with ego, body dymorphism) - not a sexual one. If your wang is at least 6 inches and most important of all THICK, then you really shouldn't have much to worry about.
 
True indeed. That would make it about a 6.25" girth (on the dildo).
 
Very good post. All male ego and debate aside, if we really want to know the exact ideal size women want, just check the sales figures on different sized dildos. 6 to 7 inches long and 6 1/4 girth.
 
I think members here do have a "distorted" view of length measurements though. Getting a 6 inch BONE PRESSED length will NOT translate into 6 usable inches of dick for your woman. I think that 7-7.5 inches NBP is an ideal length for sex, few women will have trouble handling it. But yes, the guys wanting 10X7 or something like that have just been hurt before by a woman who made a mean comment and are overcompensating, and yes, I am one of them.
 
Well, I wasn't talking about BP. 6 inches of useable penis would suffice - that's also assuming that you're in good shape and not a fat sloth (then you wouldn't even have that BP/NBP issue to worry about - no fat pad). That you somehow got "7 to7.5 inches" also seems kind of arbitrary to me.
 
Blu said:
Well, I wasn't talking about BP. 6 inches of useable penis would suffice - that's also assuming that you're in good shape and not a fat sloth (then you wouldn't even have that BP/NBP issue to worry about - no fat pad). That you somehow got "7 to7.5 inches" also seems kind of arbitrary to me.
Man if girls only wanted 6 inches there wouldn't be so much hype about penis size, because 1/2 the male population has about that much. 7-7.5 is my best estimate, didn't say it's accurate. I guess you can take it or leave it.
 
I don't think you can say that's the ideal size because of that. When they're playing with dildo's that's a completely different story than being fucked. Sometimes they feel like being pounded, and I don't think they're gonna grab a 9" dildo and tear up their own pussy...
 
quijjiboo said:
I don't think you can say that's the ideal size because of that. When they're playing with dildo's that's a completely different story than being fucked. Sometimes they feel like being pounded, and I don't think they're gonna grab a 9" dildo and tear up their own pussy...



I don't understand.... does a rubber dildo (like that one... it's designed to simulate the real feel of a penis - it's not hard and stiff like a plastic one) feel any different from a real penis? I find your argument to be rather shoddy. I'm not trying to be offensive, though.
 
Blu said:
I don't understand.... does a rubber dildo (like that one... it's designed to simulate the real feel of a penis - it's not hard and stiff like a plastic one) feel any different from a real penis? I find your argument to be rather shoddy. I'm not trying to be offensive, though.


Yeah, its a lot different. First a penis is attached to a 150+ man, who can thrust his body aganist hers, two the heat a penis generates inside a womans vagina will never compare to a rubber dildo. Three fleash feels a hundred times different than a piece of rubber or plastic. There are many differences!
 
Blu said:
I don't understand.... does a rubber dildo (like that one... it's designed to simulate the real feel of a penis - it's not hard and stiff like a plastic one) feel any different from a real penis? I find your argument to be rather shoddy. I'm not trying to be offensive, though.
It may or may not feel just like the real thing. But a girl isn't going to use it the same way she would as if she were getting fucked. It could be the ideal size for a girl to masturbate with, but that doesn't imply that's the ideal size for fucking
 
You can never substitute a real man's penis for a stupid fucking rubber dildo, I don't know why women buy these things for, if a women wanted to masturbate why doesn't she not just use her hand like a man does. A man can also put a lot more trust in fucking a women no matter what size his penis is.
 
Blu said:
http://terrisummers.adameveshops.co..._OtherSuggestions/product_id=7211/product.htm



Check out the reviews of the this penis-shaped dildo. It is 6.5 inches long, which in the distorted world of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]/Penis Enlargement is kinda small, but 2.0 inches wide, which is pretty substantial. The reviews posted by husbands and their wives are just glowing. It just shows that length is only so important for pleasuring women (it seems that most prefer something between 6 and 7 inches - long enough but not uncomfortable), but GIRTH is what really is important.



Many members have stated this before - reaching absurd penis dimensions thru Penis Enlargement is a 100% personal issue (to do with ego, body dymorphism) - not a sexual one. If your wang is at least 6 inches and most important of all THICK, then you really shouldn't have much to worry about.

There is no way that dildo is 2" thick, unless at the balls, if indeed it is 6.5" "insertable" length. This site isn't 100% accurate, but is more accurate on actual sizes than most...look at the pic of this dildo at 6.5" x 1.75"

http://www.bigsextoystore.com/cgi-bin/edatcat/BTSstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=H5512-6

wesb
 
I'm not a girl but I know somethin,

Theres a big different between sticking a non-living thing up your pussy and something thats real, its not the same, theres alot of mutual feelings and emotional things going on there that makes them even more aroused.. Its just like with us guys, ever notice when your having sex your dick looks even a little bit bigger, its because your dick is at like 110% erection.. Theres a HUGE difference between having a sex with a toy and having sex with a real-life human being, if that was the case, girls would rather fuck themselves instead of us.

http://www.penissizedebate.com/page40_ideal-penis-size.htm

this site has a poll of what an "ideal" penis would be, and some odd hundreds of women voted on this, and the ideal penis is like 7 x 6
 
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Check out the reviews of the this penis-shaped dildo. It is 6.5 inches long, which in the distorted world of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]/Penis Enlargement is kinda small, but 2.0 inches wide, which is pretty substantial. The reviews posted by husbands and their wives are just glowing. It just shows that length is only so important for pleasuring women (it seems that most prefer something between 6 and 7 inches - long enough but not uncomfortable), but GIRTH is what really is important.

Reality check! If it's what women say is ideal, who are we as men to argue. How stupid is that?

Woman: "Mmm, I love a penis that's about 6 1/2 inches long and 2 inches wide."

Guy: "No, you don't. You want a cock that's 8X6!"

There's nothing wrong with wanting a huge cock. Hell, I want a bigger cock, too! But don't fool yourselves. What we want to stroke our own egos is not necessarily what women want to stroke their pussies, and we shouldn't try to fool ourselves into thinking that. I was never "hung". I never came across any size queens. Even before Penis Enlargement, no woman ever seemed unsatisfied with my average penis. I'm not saying they don't fantasize about big ones, but big for them is 6.5 to 7.5 where big for us is 8.5 to 9.

PS-- My NBP is 6.5 right now. My width is 2" and my girth is 5.5 to 6 (depending on hardness). My wife thinks its the cats meow. I still want my 8X6, but I am also intelligent enough to know that what men think the ideal penis is and what women think the ideal penis is is two very different things.
 
kong1971 said:
Check out the reviews of the this penis-shaped dildo. It is 6.5 inches long, which in the distorted world of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]/Penis Enlargement is kinda small, but 2.0 inches wide, which is pretty substantial. The reviews posted by husbands and their wives are just glowing. It just shows that length is only so important for pleasuring women (it seems that most prefer something between 6 and 7 inches - long enough but not uncomfortable), but GIRTH is what really is important.

Reality check! If it's what women say is ideal, who are we as men to argue. How stupid is that?

Woman: "Mmm, I love a penis that's about 6 1/2 inches long and 2 inches wide."

Guy: "No, you don't. You want a cock that's 8X6!"

There's nothing wrong with wanting a huge cock. Hell, I want a bigger cock, too! But don't fool yourselves. What we want to stroke our own egos is not necessarily what women want to stroke their pussies, and we shouldn't try to fool ourselves into thinking that. I was never "hung". I never came across any size queens. Even before Penis Enlargement, no woman ever seemed unsatisfied with my average penis. I'm not saying they don't fantasize about big ones, but big for them is 6.5 to 7.5 where big for us is 8.5 to 9.

PS-- My NBP is 6.5 right now. My width is 2" and my girth is 5.5 to 6 (depending on hardness). My wife thinks its the cats meow. I still want my 8X6, but I am also intelligent enough to know that what men think the ideal penis is and what women think the ideal penis is is two very different things.

Excellent point. That's one of the big reasons why i think smaller, intermediate goals are best. Hell, 10x7 sounds cool, but I doubt that there are many women who would want to ride it day in and day out.
 
I suppose it would be worthless to try any more convincing that the perfect size is close to the bottom of the list of what girls are looking for in a partner?
 
AlloyCG said:
I suppose it would be worthless to try any more convincing that the perfect size is close to the bottom of the list of what girls are looking for in a partner?

That's a given. I don't think anyone would dispute that. But we're talking ideal penis size, not ideal husband qualities. We all know that women look at personality, kindness, romance, compatibility, work ethic, all that before they worry about penis size.

That being said, after getting a gal, one way to keep her is to keep her satisfied, and that is one of the reasons we are here debating. One VERY important factor in a long term relationship is mutual satisfaction with sex.
 
The major difference is the more turned on a woman gets the more her pussy "opens up" and the wetter she gets. Sitting on a piece of rubber while she's all alone is not the same as sex with a man she loves and who knows what he's doing.
 
I think using the size of the most popular dildo as a gauge of what women want in penis size is ludricrous. You have to remember that when she's using the dildo herself, there's going to be a portion of it used as a handle. She's going to be holding onto at least 2-3 inches with her hand. A real penis pretty much comes with a built-in handle: the man.

Actually, I'm quite surprised that the ideal size dildo is 'only' 6.5. That just tells me that most women aren't really inserting that much 'penis' in when they're using a dildo by themselves.
 
I actually, had a different theory on this, which depends on who is buying these dildos. Basically, my theory is that if mostly married women are buying them, then they may be taking into consideration that they might want to opt for something closer to normal, or else risk intimidating their husbands. Not saying this is the case, just the first thought that came to mind.
 
Last year, me and my wife got into toys. This was pre-Penis Enlargement, and I was heavier, so I was about 5 NBP. I didn't want to buy something way bigger than me because of insecurity, so what I bought was around 6X5.

She liked it. I liked it. We had some good fun with it. The only negative was that she felt a little guilty about using it. She said she felt a little like she was cheating, cause it was very different than mine, a little bigger, and straighter, etc.

I got a little braver, and thought, What they hey? I went and bought another one that was more expensive. It was one of those fleshy, realistic ones. It was also about 9 X 7. I figured bigger was better, right?

When I showed it to her, she said, "No fucking way!"

We tried it one time. It hurt her, and she wouldn't even let me stick more than the head of it in her before she said No Go.

We still use the 6x5 occassionally, but the king kong ding dong went in the garbage not long after.
 
How are you guys,
I am trying to work out if all women are size queens and they just do not now it. If you visit many forums on the net and if the question is asked does size matter nearly all women will come out and say not at all. I think that this is a load of bull shit. I have recently found out that my missus is a bit of a size queen after being together for 7 years. All this time I have thought that my size does not matter but deep down it did and the way that I found out this is another story but the truth of the matter is that she is.
I am on a quest to find the answer to this and so far I have come up with women do not care about size but in another argument that I read was on what size dildo they prefer. This argument was on a female forum the (link is posted in this forum somewhere). Well the funny thing is most liked a 8 to 9 inch dildo and there reason was they got more pleasure from it and they could get turned on just by looking at a large dildo. Hmmm all these women seemed to have contradicted themselves because the exact same women had said that they do not care if a penis was big or small.
So all in all it was bullshit women just do not want to be seen as vein or a size queen. I am not going to stop here I am going to continue this on a few other forums. I have the plan of taking the same action ask what size dildo they prefer the best thing about this is they can not get the size wrong it generally printed in big numbers on the pack and also ask what size penis they prefer. I do not understand why they hide the fact that a larger penis gives them more pleasure.

Please if anyone would like to add to this please feel free explain to me what there problem is and why they lie I am not saying that all women lie there are a few that come straight and say it and they generally will say something along the lines of any women that says that size does not matter has never had a big enough penis to say that size matters and when they do get a big one they will not turn back. Hey these women may be size queens but at least they are being honest.

Comments please.
 
Not all women are size queens. Most have a preference on size while a few don't care. Larger than average, but not crazy big, will give you the highest probability of being a woman's ideal.

If you put more thought into it than this you are only wasting your time. Trust me from experience. It's like a woman going around and asking men what size breasts are the best, and then becoming confused when there is no agreement.
 
spinner2;307550 said:
Not all women are size queens. Most have a preference on size while a few don't care. Larger than average, but not crazy big, will give you the highest probability of being a woman's ideal.

If you put more thought into it than this you are only wasting your time. Trust me from experience. It's like a woman going around and asking men what size breasts are the best, and then becoming confused when there is no agreement.

Spinner I fully understand what you are saying but why do women that say that they like a large dildo say they do not care about size. Is it a self satisfaction thing I am starting to think that the reason that they like a larger dildo is the fact that they do not have anything else to look at example being they generally do not have a sexual partner while using the dildo so there full focus is on the dildo that is why they prefer them on the larger size. So in saying that when they are with a man they are not really worried about the penis they are more thinking about the man or person that they are with. But if they like a large dildo and they like the pleasure that it creates wouldn't they want a man that they can look at and a large penis. Hmmm it just seems as though there is a missing link in there somewhere and I feel that is the fact that they are generally lieing or have not the experience of being with a bigger man.
 
I believe more than ever now that bigger is better for a man's esteem even more than for a woman's pleasure. Women all seem to have a certain preferance as far as area and type of stimulation. For many it is not the CDS, so the deep pounding we aim for doesnt even do it for them.

Some are into clit stimulation and physically size doesnt matter here. It is all about angles. For the Gspot as long as it is 3-4 inches and rubbing that seems to work for the ones who like it there. Thickness always helps especially here.

For the women who really like to get stretched out and pounded, yes bigger is better. And a bigger cock seems to turn them on more in general. They want to play with it more... touch it... suck it.

But when it comes to down and dirty banging it is really not for all of um in my opinion.
 
airshy;307565 said:
I believe more than ever now that bigger is better for a man's esteem even more than for a woman's pleasure. Women all seem to have a certain preferance as far as area and type of stimulation. For many it is not the CDS, so the deep pounding we aim for doesnt even do it for them.

Some are into clit stimulation and physically size doesnt matter here. It is all about angles. For the Gspot as long as it is 3-4 inches and rubbing that seems to work for the ones who like it there. Thickness always helps especially here.

For the women who really like to get stretched out and pounded, yes bigger is better. And a bigger cock seems to turn them on more in general. They want to play with it more... touch it... suck it.

But when it comes to down and dirty banging it is really not for all of um in my opinion.

I think that you are correct I have been going through the internet googleing more then ever and for the most part size is nothing.
What women are looking at are as follows.
1. Smile this is what they like
2. Nice Butt
3. Eyes
4. Chest and shoulders
5. Arms.
6. Penis size.

So there are many other things on womens minds then penis size. But I still feel that if I had two say they where clones of each other perfect in every way for that special women they had all the traits that I just mentioned above. But one of these guys had a 4 inch penis and the other has a 7 inch penis. I wonder what most women would go for.

But I must say that I agree penis enlargement is great for ones self esteem but and you are even luckier if you are just gifted with a large penis but I am still curious as to what you think about my statement above.
 
First of all you have a larger penis than normal. That girth size makes you more desired by women they want more girth. You got girth! Besides women are double minded when it comes to the desired size. Find the "G" spots!
 
I believe size is something. I am just saying it is more of a physological thing than anything. and 8 x 6 cock is impressive to a woman. it is statistiaclly more than the average woman can take.

here is the kicker - there are some women who would love to be fucked by it more than anything else sexually. it is just what they like. however, from a sexual statistical end, this is not at all most women. These are just the ones you want if you have an 8 x 6 cock haha.
 
i heard women say that size doesn't matter then in the next sentence say that they can't wait for me to wreck them with the ol nine'er...they're fulla shit.
 
if any woman says that it doesn't count, direct the convo towards an ex of theirs. i bet you'll hear "size doesn't matter but my ex was small, like..really small..i couldn't feel that much"

..gods honest truth i heard that from a girl straight from her mouth. they're alllll fulla shit.
 
samzman;307584 said:
if any woman says that it doesn't count, direct the convo towards an ex of theirs. i bet you'll hear "size doesn't matter but my ex was small, like..really small..i couldn't feel that much"

..gods honest truth i heard that from a girl straight from her mouth. they're alllll fulla shit.

Thank you that is what I was saying if I had to clones both look identical the women are going to take the one with the bigger dick no matter what they size does matter. An it goes with the dildo as well why do they choose to use a large dildo well simple it feels better.
I am not saying that women choose there partners by the size of there cocks well maybe some do but what I am saying if a chick just wants a one night fling they want something that is going to do it for them.
 
i just think it is important to put it in perspective. i dont know the stats but even at 7 inches you are going to bottom out on a large percentage of women. if that is the case, assuming the same girth, physically size would not matter in this instance if you were bottoming out at 6 or whatever it is.
 
If size didn't matter, 4x4 would be the ideal dildo size, but those don't sell do they? ;)

Honestly, from my experience few men/women every actually get to experience a legit, LARGE, BIG, or "HUGE" penis. Studies have been done over the years by various credible institutions. The fact IS average is in the range of 5-7" NON BP erect length, and 4-6" erect girth at mid shaft. 7" (length), and 6" (girth) being on the higher, and less frequent end of the scales. It's rare enough to see a penis 7" long, or longer, OR a penis 6" in girth or thicker. EVEN MORE RARE is a combination of above average length AND girth. SO, while a woman/man may indeed have encountered at one point a 7"+ penis, it was most likely average in girth.

Girth is king in the area of sexual satisfaction. (Most women can only take so much length without pain, or severe discomfort) It's always going to be debatable as to how much girth is "best". I've found though that my size (7" non bp, and 6.25" girth) has done nothing but satisfy the women I've been with. My current woman, is even able to take me anally (GASP!) with total pleasure. It's the "best orgasm I've ever had" according to her.

I would not say that most women are "size queens". However, the women I have been with never complained, or said anything negative...some even bragged to their friends about my size. So, while a woman (or man) may say "size isn't that important", or something similar, bigger does seem better...to an extent anyway.
 
Still - What percent of women if you had to guess can take 7 inches nbpel doggie without pain? I am curious what you think - I would guess 40%
 
little fella;307585 said:
Thank you that is what I was saying if I had to clones both look identical the women are going to take the one with the bigger dick no matter what they size does matter.
Not necessarily. Most women would pick an 8x6 over a 12x10 without question. Just aim for 8x6 and don't worry about all this.
 
stillwantmore2;307616 said:
If size didn't matter, 4x4 would be the ideal dildo size, but those don't sell do they? ;)

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Exactly.
But through reading your post you have some good points when it comes to women and ideal size it differs from female to female. No one likes to feel pain and that is a fact so yes I think that you can be to big. But I think that a lot of women get more turned on by seeing a large penis.
 
airshy;307618 said:
Still - What percent of women if you had to guess can take 7 inches nbpel doggie without pain? I am curious what you think - I would guess 40%

I personally think that there are not many but the fact still remains that they love a big penis I will explain why in my next post.
 
Ok a little update her. Through reading through a few articles it has come to my attention that no matter what any one says SIZE DOES MATTER and her is why on a scientific and psychological basis.

Ok we need to look at evolution her thousands upon thousands of years ago only the strongest survived and part of being strong was having a bigger penis. Females actually looked for men with a larger penis and why you may ask. Well very simple the longer the penis the easier it is to get pregnant it is a scientific fact because the penis is further inside the female sperm does not have as far to travel. So her comes the visual aspect looking was important they had to size up the male the funny thing was apparently that yes even if they where on the smaller size the female would still have sex with them. But her comes the bummer for the male the female would look for another partner to try and fall pregnant and if the next male that came along had a bigger penis the female would have sex with him and only if the male had a bigger penis then the other male. So apparently this is why the gland is shaped the way that is on all mammals it is to scrap out the oppositions sperm and replace it with there own sperm. This has apparently been embedded in females minds as it is a evolutionary thing and this is why females like bigger penises yes more girth makes it feel better but this is why length plays a big role in why females get turned on.
 
little fella;307643 said:
Well very simple the longer the penis the easier it is to get pregnant it is a scientific fact because the penis is further inside the female sperm does not have as far to travel.
Scientific 'facts' don't even exist per se. It could be a scientific theory, but then you would have to have studies supporting it. My guess is that no such studies exist. My intuition also tells me that your hypothesis is incorrect. Furthermore your reasoning would actually argue against the usefulness of extra large sizes, as they would deposit the sperm in the anterior or posterior fornix, which is farther away from the cervix than where a 7" would be.

Going beyond that I feel like you're wasting your time here. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Everybody here already believes they would be better off being bigger, otherwise they would be off somewhere else. What's the point of harping on reasons?
 
spinner2;307649 said:
Scientific 'facts' don't even exist per se. It could be a scientific theory, but then you would have to have studies supporting it. My guess is that no such studies exist. My intuition also tells me that your hypothesis is incorrect. Furthermore your reasoning would actually argue against the usefulness of extra large sizes, as they would deposit the sperm in the anterior or posterior fornix, which is farther away from the cervix than where a 7" would be.

Going beyond that I feel like you're wasting your time here. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Everybody here already believes they would be better off being bigger, otherwise they would be off somewhere else. What's the point of harping on reasons?

Sorry I stuffed up on this I read the article wrong it is the theory of why the male became so obsessed with the penis size. Which kind off makes a lot more sense.

Ok I am going to give up now I accept the fact that not all women are size queens and I accept the fact that there are always going to be theories about this. I am sorry for the silly thread. This has made no difference to the way that I feel about penis size and it never will actually I have come to accept that I am actually not doing Penis Enlargement for anyone else but myself and my self esteem.
Perhaps I was thinking that if I could prove that size did not matter to women then it would not matter to me.
 
If you do want to read more about this theory though just google the Human sexual selection penis. There is a tone of information about this theory as spinner pointed out to me it is a theory and I completely believe it as I could not find anything that actually backed up the theory.
 
It's natural selection. It's either because a larger penis is more efficient or (more likely) because it's more "attractive".

Here's an interesting analogy- Out of all of the primates, human females also have the largest breasts. There's no real physical advantage to having large breasts, so breast size in humans evolved because they're a desireable characteristic. Even in this modern age, large breasted females usually get more attention.
 
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