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No, she has a larger than average vagina. Very deep as well.
Is a bigger penis better for women?
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No, she has a larger than average vagina. Very deep as well.
I sometimes become absorbed with bigger being better but it always seems to be in the context of size between men, as on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. I often wonder what women truly like, on average. I wish we had more access to real female opinion. I think many of us assume women want a massive dick because we do but what do they truly desire? What size is huge to them, what size is small? When I consider that average size, erect, is right about 5.5" with a girth of about 4.5" it blows my mind that that most desired size is 8 x 6 on this forum. What do you think? Do you believe that women want something so huge or do you believe that it is really us who want this? I know it is a strange question but I really wonder how much of this is for anyone else but ourselves (not that it is bad).
I found this on a surgery site which sparked my interest in this thread:
I found this on a surgery site which sparked my interest in this thread:
Women just want to suck and feed off are energyIt is us as men who want it. We all have either been shocked by a current or previous partner who just blurts out that we were not as big as another man. Being the sensitive creatures we are put into insane mode and start looking at how to make ourselves bigger than what they described and are usually relentless about it.
From a dominatrix who i had the fortunate experience with for a year or so in my youth who had many lovers, she was a ruler measuring woman as well, she stated she felt that 7 x 5.5 was just about perfect from what her and her girlfriends could surmise.
this definatly does not go for the entire population but i thought it was a decent guideline to go by. I just set my goals higher cause overachieving is fun.
From a dominatrix who i had the fortunate experience with for a year or so in my youth who had many lovers, she was a ruler measuring woman as well, she stated she felt that 7 x 5.5 was just about perfect from what her and her girlfriends could surmise.
this definatly does not go for the entire population but i thought it was a decent guideline to go by. I just set my goals higher cause overachieving is fun.
I think they like a bigger penis..as you mentioned, above average. Maybe not 8 x 6, but something a knotch below that
wow dld that was a tounge twister
also ijust hit te 7 and a half mark i was originaly dead on or slitly under 7 inches
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also ijust hit te 7 and a half mark i was originaly dead on or slitly under 7 inches
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i just had a female friend tell me tonight that size does matter...she's not looking for a massive dick...but maybe something about 7" in length and 5.5 in girth...but women don't know size anyway.
There are several things that make us think women prefer big cocks. For instance, I have heard women say of an ex-partner things like. "... and he had a small dick anyway". I think that always smacks of trying to put him down in order to bolster her own ego that got damaged in the break-up. And women do seem to really enjoy cock size related jokes. I think it gives them a feeling of power over us. Like, we're stronger than them, but they know how to get (most of) us where it hurts - ie. right in the insecurities.
In the same way that most of us guys don't choose our girlfriends by breast size, women don't choose their partners based upon cock size either But women - lots of women - obsess about the size/shape of their breasts, and look at us right here, right now, obsessing about cock size ;o)
That well known (around here) statement 'Women can't measure' could easily be, and perhaps should be, substituted for 'women can't be bothered to measure'. But what size do they think they want? You could ask a bunch of women at a party what cock size is a good size, and a lot of them might come out with 7 or 8 or even 9 inches or more, but I really think they're being competitive rather than realistic. Those are the sizes they've read about in magazines, or they're the sizes they've overheard others bragging about. But I think if you were to ask women in isolation and in seriousness to 'hold your index fingers apart at the length of penis that you'd prefer on your man' and then measured the gap I think it might average somewhere around 6".
One last, hopefully objective, point. My wife agrees with me that after she gave birth to our son, her vagina never recovered it's former size. She is enjoying the results of my pe efforts because she now feels as full when we fuck as she did years ago. So her 'ideal penis size' has grown over the years, but it wouldn't have if I hadn't managed to 'grow' a little myself. What I mean is that it would never have occurred to her to 'want' more size if it had never occurred to me to try to provide it. That's the kind of woman she is. A real nice woman. And she loves me - not cock size.
In the same way that most of us guys don't choose our girlfriends by breast size, women don't choose their partners based upon cock size either But women - lots of women - obsess about the size/shape of their breasts, and look at us right here, right now, obsessing about cock size ;o)
That well known (around here) statement 'Women can't measure' could easily be, and perhaps should be, substituted for 'women can't be bothered to measure'. But what size do they think they want? You could ask a bunch of women at a party what cock size is a good size, and a lot of them might come out with 7 or 8 or even 9 inches or more, but I really think they're being competitive rather than realistic. Those are the sizes they've read about in magazines, or they're the sizes they've overheard others bragging about. But I think if you were to ask women in isolation and in seriousness to 'hold your index fingers apart at the length of penis that you'd prefer on your man' and then measured the gap I think it might average somewhere around 6".
One last, hopefully objective, point. My wife agrees with me that after she gave birth to our son, her vagina never recovered it's former size. She is enjoying the results of my pe efforts because she now feels as full when we fuck as she did years ago. So her 'ideal penis size' has grown over the years, but it wouldn't have if I hadn't managed to 'grow' a little myself. What I mean is that it would never have occurred to her to 'want' more size if it had never occurred to me to try to provide it. That's the kind of woman she is. A real nice woman. And she loves me - not cock size.
Interesting thread.
Answer is most likely yes, it matters.
Probably not as central as we like to think, but more than "it doesnt matter."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im59yJSqOqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9w8zs0o-Cg
Answer is most likely yes, it matters.
Probably not as central as we like to think, but more than "it doesnt matter."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im59yJSqOqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9w8zs0o-Cg
I think what women want is dependent upon their experience. The amount of sexual partners and their varying sizes all comes into play. Honestly, most girls DO want a big cock. A lot of girls either don't want to admit it because they'll hurt feelings or haven't experienced a dick that's bigger than the average. I also read that women on average choose 8x6 dildos. So there you go.
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Women and size[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"Men do not realize average is really smaller than they think it is." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"The biggest turn-off for me would be a man that is fragile and insecure about his penis size." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"...it's only an issue if he has hang-ups or insecurities about it." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"It doesn't matter what a man's penis size, if he has hands that can reach her clitoris." [/FONT]
Straight from the horse's mouth, or in the examples above, straight from the keyboard. When asked on a number of women's Internet forums the question; "Does the size of a man's penis matter to you?" The majority of women rose up and answered with a resounding "NO!"
Let's face it, from the moment a man discovers his most wondrous appendage, he's smitten. It becomes his best friend. He plays with it, listens to its opinion, admires it, worries about it and gets into trouble with it.
But men also obsess over it. Is it long enough? Is it thick enough? How does it measure-up compared to other men? Well, let me tell you something, men are much more obsessed with their dicks then we are. Yes, we giggle and whisper over a large dick. We look, admire, wonder and are shocked by it. Women can appreciate the visual appeal of a big stiff cock. But when it comes to satisfying sex, it's more about the man than the member.
For women, a man is much more then his penis. It's who he is as a person. It's how he makes us feel and what he means to us. As one woman put it, "I never walked away from a guy any size thinking more about the size than I did whether we enjoyed ourselves. Some guys just know how to make you feel OMG regardless of the equipment."
But while size isn't a major blip on the radar for most women, extremes of size either way – very small or very large – provide, er, certain challenges to overcome. When it's very small, there is the issue of how much a woman can feel. And "too large" brings a different set of problems.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"If anything, too large is not nice. It hurts in a bad way..." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"There is such a thing as too big." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"I dated a man for a while who had a huge penis... Thankfully for me, he always came in under 5 seconds." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"Size doesn't matter unless its cervix bumpin' huge." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"...if it's way too big, that might be a problem for both of us. I don't like having my cervix pounded hard, it hurts..."[/FONT]
But, larger men, don't despair! The overwhelming message from women was that they were willing to work with any size – so long as they are into the man.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"If you love the man you are with, size is irrelevant." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"If you are really into a person, it can be managed." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"The man is more important than the part." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"...intimate connection is the most fulfilling and has no basis in size..."[/FONT]
An article I just read in Psychology Today has a great quote; "There was a discrepancy between what women desired and what they would accept in a mate. Women adapt... it seemed to cut across all variables from height to weight to penis size. It seems that 'negative' appearance factors become lost within the greater gestalt of the partner. They see past or through a less-then-ideal feature."
This means that you don't have to be physically perfect to attract a woman. She looks at the big picture - who you are and what you mean to her. When a woman takes it all into account - the fact that a man doesn't have a perfect ass, or has thinning hair, or a smaller penis, gets lost in the entirety of the man. It doesn't factor in.
Keep in mind, that just as you are different sizes on the outside, women are different sizes on the inside. One woman may present a tight fit for you, while another will be looser. How well you fit with a woman can vary. We are all individuals with different bodies, dreams, wants and needs. When a woman finds a man who cares about her, listens to her, and just does it for her, the size of his penis is very far down on her list of priorities.
Men, don't ask your partner if your size is satisfying! If she says, "Yes, you're the biggest," then you tag her as a liar. If she says, "You're big, but not the biggest," you assume she wants a bigger dick. If she says "You're the right size for me," then it sounds like a copout. No matter how a woman answers – there's no right answer!
Remember, if you can't be her biggest lover, then work on being her best lover. If a woman is into a man, the size of his penis is irrelevant. Women tend to look at the big picture - the whole man. Be the best man you can be – both in and out of the bedroom – and she will thank you for it in ways unfit to print.
Further reading:
Our Survey
Growers And Show-ers
Size Around The World
Body Image Disorder Affecting More Men
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Jill (aka Firefly) is a moderator and regular contributor in our Dick Talk discussion forums. Now, she is also offering her words of feminine wisdom in this regular column where she'll be addressing male matters from a woman's perspective. Want to drop Jill a line? Email her here and mark your message for her attention. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Women and size[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"Men do not realize average is really smaller than they think it is." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"The biggest turn-off for me would be a man that is fragile and insecure about his penis size." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"...it's only an issue if he has hang-ups or insecurities about it." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"It doesn't matter what a man's penis size, if he has hands that can reach her clitoris." [/FONT]
Straight from the horse's mouth, or in the examples above, straight from the keyboard. When asked on a number of women's Internet forums the question; "Does the size of a man's penis matter to you?" The majority of women rose up and answered with a resounding "NO!"
Let's face it, from the moment a man discovers his most wondrous appendage, he's smitten. It becomes his best friend. He plays with it, listens to its opinion, admires it, worries about it and gets into trouble with it.
But men also obsess over it. Is it long enough? Is it thick enough? How does it measure-up compared to other men? Well, let me tell you something, men are much more obsessed with their dicks then we are. Yes, we giggle and whisper over a large dick. We look, admire, wonder and are shocked by it. Women can appreciate the visual appeal of a big stiff cock. But when it comes to satisfying sex, it's more about the man than the member.
For women, a man is much more then his penis. It's who he is as a person. It's how he makes us feel and what he means to us. As one woman put it, "I never walked away from a guy any size thinking more about the size than I did whether we enjoyed ourselves. Some guys just know how to make you feel OMG regardless of the equipment."
But while size isn't a major blip on the radar for most women, extremes of size either way – very small or very large – provide, er, certain challenges to overcome. When it's very small, there is the issue of how much a woman can feel. And "too large" brings a different set of problems.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"If anything, too large is not nice. It hurts in a bad way..." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"There is such a thing as too big." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"I dated a man for a while who had a huge penis... Thankfully for me, he always came in under 5 seconds." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"Size doesn't matter unless its cervix bumpin' huge." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"...if it's way too big, that might be a problem for both of us. I don't like having my cervix pounded hard, it hurts..."[/FONT]
But, larger men, don't despair! The overwhelming message from women was that they were willing to work with any size – so long as they are into the man.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"If you love the man you are with, size is irrelevant." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"If you are really into a person, it can be managed." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"The man is more important than the part." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]"...intimate connection is the most fulfilling and has no basis in size..."[/FONT]
An article I just read in Psychology Today has a great quote; "There was a discrepancy between what women desired and what they would accept in a mate. Women adapt... it seemed to cut across all variables from height to weight to penis size. It seems that 'negative' appearance factors become lost within the greater gestalt of the partner. They see past or through a less-then-ideal feature."
This means that you don't have to be physically perfect to attract a woman. She looks at the big picture - who you are and what you mean to her. When a woman takes it all into account - the fact that a man doesn't have a perfect ass, or has thinning hair, or a smaller penis, gets lost in the entirety of the man. It doesn't factor in.
Keep in mind, that just as you are different sizes on the outside, women are different sizes on the inside. One woman may present a tight fit for you, while another will be looser. How well you fit with a woman can vary. We are all individuals with different bodies, dreams, wants and needs. When a woman finds a man who cares about her, listens to her, and just does it for her, the size of his penis is very far down on her list of priorities.
Men, don't ask your partner if your size is satisfying! If she says, "Yes, you're the biggest," then you tag her as a liar. If she says, "You're big, but not the biggest," you assume she wants a bigger dick. If she says "You're the right size for me," then it sounds like a copout. No matter how a woman answers – there's no right answer!
Remember, if you can't be her biggest lover, then work on being her best lover. If a woman is into a man, the size of his penis is irrelevant. Women tend to look at the big picture - the whole man. Be the best man you can be – both in and out of the bedroom – and she will thank you for it in ways unfit to print.
Further reading:
Our Survey
Growers And Show-ers
Size Around The World
Body Image Disorder Affecting More Men
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REDZULU2003
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Just as I thought. Doesnt shock me. Its all about us mostly and sure size queens are around but guys are around who only want large breasts and blondes! Woman tend to want a guy whos on their level and can make a connection with rather than eye candy.
''A big cock in the hands of someone inexperienced is like the worlds most powerful sports car with a boy racer behind the wheel, dangerous out of control and no fun while the pro well he will control the car to its potential and be a delight to watch''
Its allot to do with foreplay, sex, talk, mood etc with woman rather than your cocks. I'm doing this for me, not the woman and you guys should aswell.
''A big cock in the hands of someone inexperienced is like the worlds most powerful sports car with a boy racer behind the wheel, dangerous out of control and no fun while the pro well he will control the car to its potential and be a delight to watch''
Its allot to do with foreplay, sex, talk, mood etc with woman rather than your cocks. I'm doing this for me, not the woman and you guys should aswell.