O good God Help Me, my penis is shrinking!!

Thanks for the info G_P.....

I just read this on DLD's SRT......
"If you do it when you are erect and naked, if you have a strong PC muscle, you can bounce your penis by flexing this muscle. WHen you are peeing and you stop yourself midway through the contraction of a squeeze of the PC muscles you can stop the flow of urine, this, too, is a kegel. A reverse kegel is the complete opposite.

The reverse kegel would be the pushing, or total "unfelt" of the PC muscles. Amazingly, when you learn how to do the Reverse Kegel (RK) you have learned part of what changed penis enlargement and allowed it to stand toe to toe with the medical world version, surgery. When the Reverse Kegel is being performed the suspensory ligaments are bypassed and the user can effectively stretch the penis with no interference. It is also a very common reflex for some men to kegel out of fear when stretching, a kind of defend mechanism, when these guys learn the Reverse Kegel they start making much faster gains."


I haven't read on yet. But just had to post this here before I forgot. This seems like it could work for me. As Ive said its just a natural thing for my body to do now, kegel when I shit or piss, its probably more than just a kegel as I hold my breath and I even see my tummy suck in when it happens.

Do others naturally hold there breath when they kegel and see there tummy suck in???

Another quick update. I use a tlc-xpe tugger now.. It is both for restoring the foreskin and stretching the shaft. I'm using it just over a month and I see improvements. Most notable is when I ejaculate I squirt further, and then another 3 or 4 smaller squirts which Ive never had before. This must be because Ive always kegelled without knowing, but the tugger has stretched the muscles making them stronger, I dunno? I dont think its a cure its just a prevention... MAYBE MAYBE it could stretch it so much overtime, that my body will naturally stop sucking it in and If I work on this reverse kegel I could stop it completely.
Don't know if Ive said it before but, my erections have always been rock hard, so I dont think its peyronies(though I do have a fibrous plaque that causes the curve).
I will be getting the SG soon, I really need to try it to work on the curve I have, that scar tissue might have something to do with the retraction too.

can i ask a question it might be off the wall you mentioned you were young 18
now theres been numerous mentionings from all over different sites and MOS that at 18 people might put on weight of the body
my question is how is your fat pad at the base of your penis has it gotten thicker im just wondering cause there hasnt been an actual thread anywhere that i found addressing the fat pad behind
penis just alot of people talking bout it
this could be where you penis has been heading

on your thread starter you didnt mention warm ups or warm downs wrapping but i see DLD addressed wrapping
as for me i keep my penis the rest of the day under master lock and key i hang it with a 1inch master lock all day sometimes during the night to keep elongated and stretched
i do this after my excersises are finished in the morning cause for me the wrap didnt work well for me circulation with the lock on has been real good to me
results have been promising at end of my first month
i kegal with lock on strengthening penis more
the lock has helped me pull my penis out of the fat pad just watch out for pinch if going to try it

Iwillbebig. I would advise maybe studying the anatomy of the penis a bit as your original post is riddling with misunderstandings on how exactly the penis works and what is happening to you. The pc muscle that does the "Kegel" surrounds both the inner penis and the rectum hence what you are feeling when you piss get or drop the kids off. This muscle contracts thereby pulling on the penis slightly with varying degrees of retraction depending on the individual. You are not shrinking. signs of enlarged prostate is increased difficulty in peeing or getting the per started followed by very weak possible forked stream). Get a doc to check it for you as it can become nasty if the prostate keeps on growing. Does any of this shrink your penis....i really dont think it could. Might cause some temporary retraction.

My advise to you would be to do a lot of ligament stretching with your other exercises, which has been advised by others here, and to educate yourself on how your body works as most of your worries are merely due to lack of information.

ShaggyRat;525884 said:

can i ask a question it might be off the wall you mentioned you were young 18
now theres been numerous mentionings from all over different sites and MOS that at 18 people might put on weight of the body
my question is how is your fat pad at the base of your penis has it gotten thicker im just wondering cause there hasnt been an actual thread anywhere that i found addressing the fat pad behind
penis just alot of people talking bout it
this could be where you penis has been heading

on your thread starter you didnt mention warm ups or warm downs wrapping but i see DLD addressed wrapping
as for me i keep my penis the rest of the day under master lock and key i hang it with a 1inch master lock all day sometimes during the night to keep elongated and stretched
i do this after my excersises are finished in the morning cause for me the wrap didnt work well for me circulation with the lock on has been real good to me
results have been promising at end of my first month
i kegal with lock on strengthening penis more
the lock has helped me pull my penis out of the fat pad just watch out for pinch if going to try it

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Hey ShaggyRat
Yes I was 18 when this issue started but I am now just gone 23. I am not sure exactly what the fat pad(and alot of terms on this forum) is but if its at the very base of the penis when it enters the body then yes, it is quite thick at the bottom and I can feel that there is alot of my penis there. When I kegel flaccid I can feel blood entering the very base and it feels like Im thickening it. If you think my problem could be caused by weight gain, then no definetly not I am very slim about 5'9 68kg. I actually think it helps my stomach stay flat as my abs tighten and my stomach visibly retracts when I go to the toilet.
You say about wearing a master lock... What do you attach it too?? You also say u sleep with it on... I have read this is very dangerous as it can stop the natural angle of your erection and cause your erections to fold. Thats pretty much how my penis got curved and damaged the foreskin in the first place, tight boxers to sleep + nocturnal rections = DISASTER.
But yes I do believe my penis is hiding in the fat pad or inside my body and I have been stretching the ligaments daily through wearing a tlc-xpe, it is really comfortable.

IWillBeBig;525879 said:

Thanks for the info G_P.....

I just read this on DLD's SRT......
"If you do it when you are erect and naked, if you have a strong PC muscle, you can bounce your penis by flexing this muscle. WHen you are peeing and you stop yourself midway through the contraction of a squeeze of the PC muscles you can stop the flow of urine, this, too, is a kegel. A reverse kegel is the complete opposite.

The reverse kegel would be the pushing, or total "unfelt" of the PC muscles. Amazingly, when you learn how to do the Reverse Kegel (RK) you have learned part of what changed penis enlargement and allowed it to stand toe to toe with the medical world version, surgery. When the Reverse Kegel is being performed the suspensory ligaments are bypassed and the user can effectively stretch the penis with no interference. It is also a very common reflex for some men to kegel out of fear when stretching, a kind of defend mechanism, when these guys learn the Reverse Kegel they start making much faster gains."


I haven't read on yet. But just had to post this here before I forgot. This seems like it could work for me. As Ive said its just a natural thing for my body to do now, kegel when I shit or piss, its probably more than just a kegel as I hold my breath and I even see my tummy suck in when it happens.

Do others naturally hold there breath when they kegel and see there tummy suck in???

Another quick update. I use a tlc-xpe tugger now.. It is both for restoring the foreskin and stretching the shaft. I'm using it just over a month and I see improvements. Most notable is when I ejaculate I squirt further, and another 3 or 4 smaller squirts which I never had before. This must be because Ive always kegelled without knowing, but the tugger has stretched the muscles making them stronger, I dunno? I dont think its a cure its just a prevention... MAYBE MAYBE it could stretch it so much overtime, that my body will naturally stop sucking it in and If I work on this reverse kegel I could stop it completely.
Don't know if Ive said it before but, my erections have always been rock hard, so I dont think its peyronies(though I do have a fibrous plaque that causes the curve).
I will be getting the SG soon, I really need to try it to work on the curve I have, that scar tissue might have something to do with the retraction too.

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I am happy you have explored into SRT, it is a fascinating environment with many excellent practices that ensure the steady and fluent stream of gains. Now, when you consider your flaccid pens and the life you have lived I am sure you have unknowingly have practices that contribute to turtling or shrinkage. The penis is comfortable most when it is retracted and it takes a marked effort to encourage the training of the penis to remain elongated while flaccid. For me it was Uncle Jim's Wrap that taught my penis to remain elongated and lengthly. I also coupled this with an electric heating pad when privately possible, this definitely encourages elongation. There are times though that I have become complacent with these "training sessions", as passive as they may seam, and I end up losing flaccid size. I need a steady, consistent (but light) flaccid regiment, during non-pe times, to keep an optimum flaccid size.

Do not become discouraged if shrinkage happens despite your efforts, there are things like cold weather, stressful days, too much masturbation or even too much pe, and shrinkage will happen as normal protocol. It is no reflection on you or your gains, there are days it is cold, stressful or even a day with too much penis enlargement and I will have shrinkage...plain and simple it happens.

Practicing the teachings of SRT and taking advantage of down time, or times you can not train, and using that time to express passive training in the form of light ADS work, VLC/TLC and now VLX can be used, the SizeGenetics at low to medium tension, cock rings, inexpensive alternatives like the Captains Wench and Uncle Jim's Wrap, and the soon to be released MOS Maxi-Wrap, all allow for the healing of the penis is an extended or expanded state. The most important part of gaining is not necessarily the making of the gains as it is the securing of such. The marriage of gaining and healing is the future of Penis Enlargement and SRT will bring it to the public on March 1st!

LasherG;525937 said:

Iwillbebig. I would advise maybe studying the anatomy of the penis a bit as your original post is riddling with misunderstandings on how exactly the penis works and what is happening to you. The pc muscle that does the "Kegel" surrounds both the inner penis and the rectum hence what you are feeling when you piss get or drop the kids off. This muscle contracts thereby pulling on the penis slightly with varying degrees of retraction depending on the individual. You are not shrinking. signs of enlarged prostate is increased difficulty in peeing or getting the per started followed by very weak possible forked stream). Get a doc to check it for you as it can become nasty if the prostate keeps on growing. Does any of this shrink your penis....i really dont think it could. Might cause some temporary retraction.

My advise to you would be to do a lot of ligament stretching with your other exercises, which has been advised by others here, and to educate yourself on how your body works as most of your worries are merely due to lack of information.

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Hey lasherG

Yes your right I need to read up on it more, but honestly, it depresses me, and even though I want to sort my problem out so bad, I also hate thinking about it and I dread speaking about it to a doctor or urologist as Ive had bad experiences with him in the past and I'm afraid hel think I'm crazy. My GP already thinks Im a hypocondriac.

You say about the prostate. I actually take finasteride and 1 capsule of saw palmetto daily as I have the beginnings of Male Pattern Baldness. As you probably know these medications shrink the prostate so I highly doubt my prostate is enlarged. And before anyone says these medications have something to do with my problem, I have only been taking them 1 year and I experienced this problem 4 years before, I dont think its effected my penis one bit, despite reading about all the sides I have been fine, actually in this time things have improved slightly.
You say I'm not shrinking, I am trust me. I don't think my penis is dissapearing into thin air, but I am definetly hiding some of it in my body(or fat pad). When I press my fingers against my pelvis(fat pad?) I can feel the actual shaft, everything is so TIGHT. Im not sure if Ive said it before but my penis is tight and hard not floppy. I think this is from the constant kegelling, I mean women kegel to get a tighter vagina, this is what is happening to me, everything is tightening up down there. I must be performing the kegel incorrectly or fucked up the blood flow, I also think my early days of jelqing I may have caused scar tissue that causes this tightness or hardness too, but not quite bad to say its peyronies.

Also, when you jelq, is it possible to jelq WITHOUT kegelling??? I feel the blood rush through my cock but quickly go back a little. Maybe its because when I began jelqing I did not do the technique 100% to the book, I would push blood through then let go or slightly squeeze the base and kegel, I varied it up and still do. I find it difficult to follow the exact technique now as my base is so thick its really awkward and just not comfortable. I have to start my stroke just after the base.... I am rambling a bit, its late and Im not sure if Im making sense.

Thanks for your advice though, I might get my prostate checked soon.

Thanks for your post DLD. Quick question, do people increase girth aswell as lenght with the SG?? I though the SG only stretched your ligs, but I have heard it can improve girth aswell? I asked a similar question re the Bathmate and sg yesterday, but I cant find what thread I asked in....

IWillBeBig;526088 said:

Hey ShaggyRat
Yes I was 18 when this issue started but I am now just gone 23. I am not sure exactly what the fat pad(and alot of terms on this forum) is but if its at the very base of the penis when it enters the body then yes, it is quite thick at the bottom and I can feel that there is alot of my penis there. When I kegel flaccid I can feel blood entering the very base and it feels like Im thickening it. If you think my problem could be caused by weight gain, then no definetly not I am very slim about 5'9 68kg. I actually think it helps my stomach stay flat as my abs tighten and my stomach visibly retracts when I go to the toilet.
You say about wearing a master lock... What do you attach it too?? You also say u sleep with it on... I have read this is very dangerous as it can stop the natural angle of your erection and cause your erections to fold. Thats pretty much how my penis got curved and damaged the foreskin in the first place, tight boxers to sleep + nocturnal rections = DISASTER.
But yes I do believe my penis is hiding in the fat pad or inside my body and I have been stretching the ligaments daily through wearing a tlc-xpe, it is really comfortable.

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in our college years as we get older our fatty foods and body travel down wards even though we can be skinny there is a few spots on a body that have fat in them one being our fat pad measure pelvic bone out usually bout half inch to inch in a lot of guys on there fat pads how you say it rounds right at the penis base
i wasnt refering to weight gain as natural our body and gravity are going to take effect to hold more fat tissue at a low point as we get older our anatomy slowly sags wether or not weight gain is there the fat pad will increase over time
when were baby we dont have much of a fat pad until our balls start decending and threw puberty when our balls hang more it pulls the fat out more the older we get more were going to see

the master lock you asked heres the reason i wear it and its a choice up to you if you want to try it or not
the wraps cut off circulation i tried light wraps and still circulation issue
now there were a couple things to look at with the master lock
1. theres a weight called an anchor weight out there its a couple ounces with industrial magnets to hold right behind glans this keeps you elongated it costs an arm and leg
2. master lock comes pre sized and weighted with many different styles to choose from one being a 2 pound with 1inch hasp worn same as anchor weight with 3/4 the cost less
it slides behind the glans and locks in with a proper hasp size the master lock will stay on just watch for the pinch if you try it
the Size Genetics (SG) extender and couple other devices are dangerous to wear when sleeping because there stiff with no motion swing a master lock stays at end allows swing at base of penis as a constant pull whether
or not sleeping its a constant pull ive worn this to bed and i wore a smaller one to bed the smaller hasp 14/16 fit well but i didnt compensation for errections so i moved up a hasp size to 1inch and perfect to wear to bed
it really is a good way to pull your penis and heal it after SG use i do excersizes and SG before the master lock and then i put on master lock to keep penis in elongated form to heal this way no circulation cut off no curve just letting the body do what it naturally does / Now say for example your penis head and only your penis head was the size of a softball and your shaft was thin how long do you think it take to pull closer to ground with that much head weight its using gravity to help it along 2pound lock equaling 900g of tension on an SG
if i didnt think it wasnt safe i wouldnt do it and im doing it cause it works and i feel its safe your penis has to adjust to the extra weight thats all no slinky no more no turtle it healed further out then when i first started
even if i get errection it wont bother it
im telling you this it hasnt changed my natural angle it has actualy straightened it out like the SG does when we wear them
with my errections they have been better now im ED errectile disfunctional i started here at MOS to find ways to get my blood flow back naturally and the routines SG jelqing and excersizes has helped my blood flow
my wife is happy we get our time back and it showed it works with in the first weeks
i go commando i gave up underwear for lack of freedom and circulation issues with lot of boxers and briefs
in a months time i went from turtle to an inch and 1.5 inch bigger with the help of this master lock advice and tools of the trade SG jelqing
it might sound like it doesnt work the master lock but for me i see the results and keeping documented journal with pics signature line first link the results for me have been great
your penis gets curved from periones <------- spell check scarring of the tissue the which can all be managed by an SG you must have worked your penis pretty hard or had some trauma to it thats what i read from site how periones curve happens

check out my first link in my signature line this is my journal
ED trys to rob you of your manhood but if theres a will then theres a way my first gain is blood flow everything after that is a plus
blood flow is key
if thats the TLC tugger thats for foreskin restoration from what i read on the TLC and Ron Paul rep speaking in forum site if you want lengthening of the shaft you want to use the VLC tugger one has vent hole at top one doesnt
last night i finished reading the TLC tugger thread i learned something

Shaggy Rat, thanks for the post man, could u please put some full stops in though as its kinda hard to read.

I didn't over work my penis, I wore tight boxers to bed and woke up with my cockk facing to the left and then on my erections had a curve, I never knew about pe when this happened so as you can imagine I panicked a bit.
Also the tlc I have, is for BOTH restoration of foreskin and lenghtening, Ron Low told me its so new he hasnt actually updated he site yet but he assured me this helps with both restoring and lenghtening and so far it seems to be working, its called the TLC-XPenis Enlargement. I plan to attach the tlc to the size genetics and that looks amazing and more comfortable than the sg alone.
Can you please link me(or somebody) your master lock you attach under the glans?? Id love to wear something while I sleep safely. I dont really understand what you said and I need a picture or a link, thanks!

IWillBeBig;526253 said:

Shaggy Rat, thanks for the post man, could u please put some full stops in though as its kinda hard to read.

I didn't over work my penis, I wore tight boxers to bed and woke up with my cockk facing to the left and then on my erections had a curve, I never knew about pe when this happened so as you can imagine I panicked a bit.
Also the tlc I have, is for BOTH restoration of foreskin and lenghtening, Ron Low told me its so new he hasnt actually updated he site yet but he assured me this helps with both restoring and lenghtening and so far it seems to be working, its called the TLC-XPenis Enlargement. I plan to attach the tlc to the size genetics and that looks amazing and more comfortable than the sg alone.
Can you please link me(or somebody) your master lock you attach under the glans?? Id love to wear something while I sleep safely. I dont really understand what you said and I need a picture or a link, thanks!

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gotta start going commando lol
my journal in signature line has my master lock discriptions in it
with master lock attach behind the glans in my journal the pics and post will be #27 5 pics
only thing to worry bout with the locks are the pinch have to pull skin away from locking hasp once locked it gives a good little pull for heal and stretch
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?69392-Jelqin-Newbie-here-My-first-time-experience
post #27 in my journal thread
i wear a 1 inch hasp 2 pound master lock

IWillBeBig;525879 said:

Thanks for the info G_P.....

I just read this on DLD's SRT......
"If you do it when you are erect and naked, if you have a strong PC muscle, you can bounce your penis by flexing this muscle. WHen you are peeing and you stop yourself midway through the contraction of a squeeze of the PC muscles you can stop the flow of urine, this, too, is a kegel. A reverse kegel is the complete opposite.

The reverse kegel would be the pushing, or total "unfelt" of the PC muscles. Amazingly, when you learn how to do the Reverse Kegel (RK) you have learned part of what changed penis enlargement and allowed it to stand toe to toe with the medical world version, surgery. When the Reverse Kegel is being performed the suspensory ligaments are bypassed and the user can effectively stretch the penis with no interference. It is also a very common reflex for some men to kegel out of fear when stretching, a kind of defend mechanism, when these guys learn the Reverse Kegel they start making much faster gains."


I haven't read on yet. But just had to post this here before I forgot. This seems like it could work for me. As Ive said its just a natural thing for my body to do now, kegel when I shit or piss, its probably more than just a kegel as I hold my breath and I even see my tummy suck in when it happens.

Do others naturally hold there breath when they kegel and see there tummy suck in???

Another quick update. I use a tlc-xpe tugger now.. It is both for restoring the foreskin and stretching the shaft. I'm using it just over a month and I see improvements. Most notable is when I ejaculate I squirt further, and another 3 or 4 smaller squirts which I never had before. This must be because Ive always kegelled without knowing, but the tugger has stretched the muscles making them stronger, I dunno? I dont think its a cure its just a prevention... MAYBE MAYBE it could stretch it so much overtime, that my body will naturally stop sucking it in and If I work on this reverse kegel I could stop it completely.
Don't know if Ive said it before but, my erections have always been rock hard, so I dont think its peyronies(though I do have a fibrous plaque that causes the curve).
I will be getting the SG soon, I really need to try it to work on the curve I have, that scar tissue might have something to do with the retraction too.

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Ok so believe it or not, I haven't read on yet! Too busy!
Can anyone or even DLD link me to the rest of what he/you said? I looked in SRT but theres so much there I couldn't find where I seen it.

Thanks

IWillBeBig;529851 said:

Ok so believe it or not, I haven't read on yet! Too busy!
Can anyone or even DLD link me to the rest of what he/you said? I looked in SRT but theres so much there I couldn't find where I seen it.

Thanks

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Everything is in the SRT Thread

doublelongdaddy;530084 said:

Everything is in the SRT Thread

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So Ive read it all again. You say that the reverse kegel is the opposite of a kegel, I got that, and you say its the letting go of the pc muscle rather than tensing it/contracting it. Can you explain this a little further please?? I feel I kegel everytime I take a $hit and Im sure its retracting my cock into my body.
My upward and strong erections even prove how Ive got a strong pc muscle.

Do you or anybody feel you kegel even when you dont want to as its became such a habit?

hepcat;532421 said:

At one point I kept involuntarily kegeling and would realize and couldn't stop. It was like a compulsion I could not stop. I have really bad OCD though so I don't know if that was the real culprit.

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That will do nothing but strengthen the muscles and allow them to have more endurance.

hepcat;533978 said:

I agree but was doing it a bit too much.

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RhytHydromax to all things my Brother!

So I happened to stumble upon this picture. This is similar to mine except 10x worse.
I think that could even be a boner, but mine is like that(not as bad) after Im really cold or just had a big dump.. See how the very base looks thick and full like theres a lot of inner penis there? Or is that the 'fatpad'??
The words say 'dont do pills', assuming it means ecstasy, what condition is this?? Peyronies or even just a retracting cock like I have??

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IWillBeBig;540645 said:

So I happened to stumble upon this picture. This is similar to mine except 10x worse.
I think that could even be a boner, but mine is like that(not as bad) after Im really cold or just had a big dump.. See how the very base looks thick and full like theres a lot of inner penis there? Or is that the 'fatpad'??
The words say 'dont do pills', assuming it means ecstasy, what condition is this?? Peyronies or even just a retracting cock like I have??

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I think it is just a cruel picture that is meant to cause harm to men. Any man who may have these issues can find solace here, on Matters of Size, and whatever size you have makes little difference, we are in the business of gaining!

Thats true dld but Im asking what exactly is this condition? I havent uploaded a pic of my cock because my phone quality is bad and also my laptop webcam is broke but I just happened to come across this and the base especially looks like mine.

Im wearing the SG with the tlc-xpe attached and seeing improvement in lenght, harder erections and best of all girth. Girth I think is from jelqing and holding squeeze and maybe edging. But still, each time I shit it wants to go into my body and the base gets thicker, each time I shit I feel I lose lenght. Sounds crude but when I fart with sg on I feel the device jerk inwards towards pelvis. So im using muscles in my ass thats causing my penis to retract, I dont know how to stop it. My lenght is staying pretty much the same because of this. When I get a day of hours in the sg, manual stretch and then jelq I get a fairly big increase in size, because my inner penis has just came out I havent actually grown new cock in that time. But if I rest for a few days and have diarhea or something my size shrinks into my scrotum/pelvis again.

Well Expressive Stretching will definitely expose more inner penis and this is always thicker at the base. This can be done using a few different methods. First, Bathmate or Penomet Hardcore Stretches are the fastest method, these exercises literally pump out new inner penis from the base. Another method, the original method, would be Ring Stretching in the LengthMaster or PowerAssist....you could also create your own ring. This method basically pushes out and exposes inner penis and allows for the user to effectively stretch it. Another method that will always increase base girth would be heavy downward stretching. The heavier the downward stretch the more it increases the base girth.

Can anyone (dld??) recommend me a good cock ring please?????

Cheers