Pages 1-10 are previous experience up until a point where I needed a break. Pages 10-now are current experience with a daily log entry for my latest routine

Because Buzz Light Year

I figured it's due for me to post how I finally got here.

Long time ago, maybe 11 years now, I was upper average, being nearly a perfect 6.5 x 5. I stumbled onto pe, figured what the hell, and tried out the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]. I got some newbie gains of about an inch in those early months, so I set the 8x6 goal. Got myself an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], upgraded my stretching and girth work, and wound up hitting 7.75 x 5. Zero girth gain in 6 months, and very slow length. I figured I was ok at that point, but before long it started bugging me.

A girl would say it was big and I'd feel the patronization. Granted I'm known to read nonsense into things, but I always retained a sense of inadequacy. Maybe it was from my long time tutor, pornography, but being average in the adult entertainment industry never cut it for me. I always wanted to be on the big side of it. Just kept going on with what I had, for practically no reason.

And there was the pesky turkey neck I had. Out of the blue, I decided to start treating it with an all day ring. I figured, since I was there anyway, I'd get back to pe and take it up a notch. I made decent gains, about .3 in girth in 2 months, but I found myself a bit too busy to really care nearly as much. I soon quit and those gains washed away.

And that brings me to 6 months ago. I'd gained weight, I had little stability, so I decided to try something I felt I could control. I had kept track of pe for a while, and knew a strong cluster of girth exercises, so I threw them all into a cauldron and made up my own rendition of Freak Slammers. A combination of slammers, horse squeeze, rotary bends, dld bends, slow squash jelqs and o bends. It's a monster. And it was working well enough on it's own, but...

After a decent first month, I decided to venture into the world of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Hard to maintain skepticism about that thing. Shortly after that I decided to try edging with a ring and using a loose ring as a part of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. 3 months of that and I had reached 6 in girth. Which was great, but after realizing that hard work does the trick for pe, I decided I wanted to see where my length can get.

I toiled away with pretty useless strategies that were basically me trying to make girth work gain me length. A solid few months of me basically wasting time on one bad idea after another, until I finally concluded you need to do traditional length work to make length gains. But, being the genius I am, I truly thought that taking the one approach to an extreme would get me what I was after. All it did was teach me a lesson.

I had spent a month in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] at high tension, working up my tolerance to it and had nothing to show for it. I was still weaseling in principles I thought were a good idea. But after 3 straight gainless months I realized, I really had no understanding of how length gains are made. So in a last ditch effort, I turned up my research mode and started to actually absorb what are pretty common sense ideas.

Ligament stretching, expressive stretching, cell division, tunica weakening. I knew of them, but nothing about them. So, in a very coincidental way, I started doing Mandingo stretching. Although I do them in every direction that is what they are. And because of the fact that I literally thought up the same exact stretch that's existed a while now, I've got to conclude that it just makes a lot of sense. It hits ligaments hard, it's expressive, and it's a tunica shredder. I really think it stands a chance at being the most effective manual stretch created thus far, and I'm doing a lot of them throughout the day, and extending for much longer durations than I did originally.

As of my last measurement, 2 weeks ago, 8 inches of length is mine. My routine seems to be working well and I am pretty eager to see where I wind up once I reach the step down phase of all this. Provided the gains go well, I am thinking 6 weeks. With 2 months after that still pretty likely to be gaining months. I am definitely excited to see it. But I am also excited to be down to a maintenance routine.

In any event, this is largely an introduction, I am surely going to get into more detail on all this stuff. I did a lot of things right, and a lot of things wrong, and I am positive that something here will be useful to someone. I'll also use this to complain or go ballistic over measurements or certain issues I'm having. A legitimate log of experience.

Sorry for the long introduction.
 
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The Early Days
I did a routine that is nearly identical to the current [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]. My gains from that probably came from the eq boost at first, but I can't say that accounts for all of it.

After 2 or 3 months of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words], I jumped into a slammer routine, and spent a few months building up to 20. By the time I quit I had hated that exercise and I really didn't care to go any farther. I was fine with it only because I was doing the king of girth gains at the time and got none. I find it is also worth noting that I did no kegals at this point.

Between Then and Now

I am extremely fond of edging for no reason. It has been done for years with no gains but I did lose a quarter inch in length. I did no maintenance routine other than the edging, and I always orgasmed at the end of a session. I eventually went back to pe for a 2 month stint where I was training my girth with slammers again. I did actually gain .3 but I can now attribute that to inadvertently doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] by using a ring to train away turkey neck with a ring. Worked out well, but I still hated slammers. I got involved in a project that required my full attention and I was ready to leave pe anyway. The gains obviously dissipated without any cementing period.

Key notes from this period; the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] can work well, rushing out of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] isn't smart if you're still making gains, doing work you hate will draw you to wanting to quit, cementing gains is something you need to plan for, and training away turkey neck is easily doable with a ring.

Next post will have the girth process I went through.
 
that was extremely informative and it gave me a great sense of understanding to what you have been doing since you started pe. I think this type of information is wonderful to have it not only shows you what is working but it also shows what does not work. It works as a map to understanding how gains come in a personal way. I also think it's a good example to new people who are just starting out, this information is priceless in charting gains and showing people just how you did it. Good job my brother.
 
The Girth Busting

I decided to take an overly aggressive approach. I originally started by doing horse 440s with bends and by the time I was done tweaking the exercise I came up with these.

Freak Slammers (Modular Slammers)

100% Erection, Uli Grip, kegal to 110%
Opposite hand, squeeze head, heavily engorged shaft, hold until rigidity is low enough for next step
Pull head grip forwards you, rotate grip around 5 times, 5 seconds per time, return to straight out grip, kegal back to engorged
Push head forward until the shaft is folded in half, creating pressure at the fold, can be rolled to mimic dld bend
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow squash jelq[/words] to mid shaft, still holding head
Bend forward and back 20 times, like a ratchet, kegal to engorged
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow squash jelq[/words] to meet other hand and release

20 times

Yeah...

The key principle here isn't this crazy, deformed version of a supra slammer. It's actually to sort of expand on the idea of super sets. You can treat nearly any exercise here like a modular beast. Taking all of your favorite, or most effective exercises and rolling them into one eliminates excluding work because of time. Doing 20 of each of those would take forever. And while it was still a 2 hour routine, I got as much out of every rep as I possibly could.

Key note; so completely and entirely not for the feint of heart or newbies. You will break your dick.

Shortly after noticing my first gains, I had this totally original idea that turned out to not be totally original at all. Using a ring all day could help me gain faster. So I tried that out. It was way too tight for that. So rather than consider wasting money I looked into other ways to use it. Edging with a ring came up. As did [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], which was a bit of a let down because I thought I was all original and crap, but oh well.

So I started using it for way longer than recommended because I guess I'm super man or some crap. The swelling looks great but the numbness is a sign you're dealing with a retard. I am honestly lucky to have not severely injured myself. At most, you should wear a ring for 20 minutes consecutively. MAXIMUM. You don't have to stop edging. Just alternate. I've found 10 on 5 off is a good ratio, and gives killer expansion with zero side effects.

So now I'm doing 2 sets 10 on 5 off 4 times a day. So I wonder if there's anything else I can get in here while staying in the safe range. I find out about [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], sounds like a trick, but I'm all about taking leaps, so I get the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words]. Pretty obvious it meshes well with everything else, so let's tack that on, morning and night for 20 minutes each. And since I still want that full [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] effect, I'm gonna buy this thing off Amazon called a "cock lasso".

And I was surprised when the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] actually started hurting because of how tight the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] became. I guess I'll get the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] without telling my lady about it first.

Oops.

All of this was over a relatively short span of time, and once it was settled, my routine looked like this.

Morning,
Edging with a ring, 10 on 5 off x2, 20 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session, loose ring

During the day,
2 Sessions of edging with a ring 10 on 5 off x2,
loose ring

Night,
20 Freak Slammers
Edging with a ring 10 on 5 off x2,
20 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session
Loose ring all night

No days off. This is classic over training, and I am fairly certain I would have gained more if I had trained with days off. Actual days off. It remains to be seen just yet, but I am figuring on revisiting girth after I am done with extending.

On the flip side, though, I got to over 6 inches in girth in under 3 months.

Key notes from this period; I tend to frenzy, exercises can be combined to make the most out of your effort, edging with a ring is great if you stick to safe limits in consecutive time worn, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] for girth work is pretty simple, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is great and get a size bigger than you think you'll need, do not buy toys for your dick under the radar or your girl will punch you in it, my routine was way over the top and was potentially so aggressive it slowed progress.

Still like girth work way better than length
 
The Length Failures

I have an obnoxious foreskin that makes regular stretching very difficult. So I figured I'd try milking, close to no erection jelqing. Zero effect. I made up a dual fulcrum jelq/stretch. Nothing worth noting. I tried jelqing with a ring. No good. So ok, fine. Modified girth work is pointless for length.

So I try extending. I get the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the leg strap. But I thought if I could just apply the maximum tension possible, while taking breaks every half hour, maybe the cock ring jelqs and that will have a synergy with that. The answer there would be no. I started using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] as directed, but was feeling extremely discouraged. I couldn't really stretch with the ok grip. So what?

Figuring It Out

I had to be a bit creative in figuring out how to get it done. A soft towel with substantial [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words], a full fisted over hand grip, and letting the foreskin stay up around the head. It's unusual and potentially dangerous, but it really is all that will work for me. So fine, just exercise caution and go from there. So then it was time to research the stretches I could do.

That's when I learned the purpose of bundled stretching and fulcrums. I knew about ligament lengthening and rearranging from my early days. So I tried fulcrums in all directions. Then I tried them bundled. Making a point of relaxing the pelvic floor constantly. I'd read about an exercise where people pressed against the ligaments as they stretched. Tried it out. Definitely an increase in stretch.

And that's how I got to my current routine.

Warm up, heating pad or bath. Heat.

Stretching routine,
6 unbundled Mandingo stretch every direction with lig press, 15 seconds
6 bundled Mandingo stretch every direction without lig press 15 seconds

That's straight out, straight up, down, left, right.

8 hours [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with heating pad on low setting. 2 breaks daily at least 2.5 hours apart. Each break is another round of the stretching routine.

After extending, one final set of the stretching routine, 15-30 minutes edging, 10 on 5 off with ring, 15 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session, wear loose ring, warm down with heating pad 15-30 minutes.

I was pretty disheartened by the gainless months prior, so my consistency wasn't ideal, but I hit 8 inches bone pressed anyway. A goal I'd set a decade earlier.

And that's about it for history. Right now I'm extending with heat. I'm pretty sure there's been further gain since two weeks ago. The real question is how much. My head used to be dauntingly large on my dick. Now... Not so much. The ideal situation is definitely hit 9 and actually need to taper off sooner than later, because the rate I plan to step down will probably still earn me some gains the first two months.

So extremely eager to get done with these next few weeks. I have a few pictures that will definitely be good for comparison later on. As soon as I'm done extending it's a new girth goal and a lot of cardio.
 
My Brother, I love the great deal of information in this thread. The Girth Busting is just amazing. This is exactly the type of commitment all should put into their progress and routine threads. Question, what kind of expansion are you seeing after a girth session?
 
It's got to be more than a half inch. It really depends on how long I am in mood for. I have gone beyond the o grip and that's over 7 I believe.

My goal for girth will probably be about what I get after a pumping session. I'm going to take it a lot easier when I get around to that. I can enjoy girth work if I don't go all Longth about it.
 
Longth;634505 said:
It's got to be more than a half inch. It really depends on how long I am in mood for. I have gone beyond the o grip and that's over 7 I believe.

My goal for girth will probably be about what I get after a pumping session. I'm going to take it a lot easier when I get around to that. I can enjoy girth work if I don't go all Longth about it.

That is excellent news then. You are getting to your goal size through a temporary gain. Just remain consistent with the temp gains and it will manifest quickly. I suppose by the time you reach goal size your temp size will be massive:)
 
SRT does it well for me.

I am kinda having second thoughts about going further with girth. I can't get into a toilet paper roll soft and I asked my girl to test how big that would be in her mouth. Damn thing barely fits. And I do plump up a bit more for fun time, so I think maybe I'm being full retard.

I really should at least measure that roll...
 
Had some turtling this morning. I've been wondering if a 2/1/3/1 schedule would be smarter considering the intensity I work with. I took a sincere day off just wearing the loose ring and I noticed some gain. Something I will probably try out for the last 4 weeks.

At this point I'm ready for another day off. I will stick with just Fridays this week and next week. Then figure out the ideal days to take off schedule wise. Time to heal has been something I've generally ignored, but even in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] there are lighter days and passive healing time.

My dick has been a tank to take the thrashing it has. Got to tip my hat to my constitution a bit and give another look at the advice available. Hopefully it will be the last time while seeking gains.
 
Longth;634578 said:
SRT does it well for me.

I am kinda having second thoughts about going further with girth. I can't get into a toilet paper roll soft and I asked my girl to test how big that would be in her mouth. Damn thing barely fits. And I do plump up a bit more for fun time, so I think maybe I'm being full retard.

I really should at least measure that roll...


I believe a standard toilet paper roll is 5" in circumference.
 
Serious key point about using vacextender; dries you out like a bastard.

I'm past 2.5 months of using the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] by monkeybars and this thing does what a vacuum does. It takes all the air out of itself to create a vacuum. That's got an inevitable side effect of dryness that I think, with a few tricks and treated from the start, can really be worked around.

Things you'd need; vitamin e aloe vera lotion, gauze, and cotton balls.

First thing you do is slip on the black piece with the tubing, then apply lotion to the head. Wrap a strip of gauze on the head right above the black piece, put the cotton ball in the cap and put everything together.

The cotton ball will soak up any fluid and everything together makes it much less uncomfortable for the head.

I still have issues with dryness but this method has made everything slowly return to normal. I am pretty sure if I'd used this method from the get go I wouldn't still be dealing with this problem at all anymore. It also helps to apply the lotion at night.

Going at the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] without any strategy is going to cause some nasty chapping. Just more information from my experience with pe.
 
Another seriously pesky issue with the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]....

The freaking suction rings break constantly. But first they tear, and when they tear they pinch. And that's just annoying.

I have an order of four of the suction rings on the way in hopes they'll be here tomorrow. I have one ring left and it's really dangling. I have no ideas on how to get that to stop, but sewing them together gives me a small bit of extra time. 2 of them barely made it a month. I'm getting close to 100 dollars spent on the damn things. Definitely something to consider before you buy this over a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].

I'm taking the day off and hoping the rings arrive tomorrow so I don't have to spend another whole day getting pinched in the dick skin. Just means I will rearrange my routine so next Thursday is my last day off in the one day off strategy. Maybe I'll just use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for a more substantial hang.

I got around to measuring the tp roll I was using. A hair under 5.2. So I am probably 5.3/5.4 flaccid. Which is lower than a 5.7 measurement I took a while back. Of course the original measurement wasn't after a full day of stretching and extending, so I guess that might be the difference.

I definitely anticipated losing more girth than that, but I guess I did a decent job of cementing. Knowing me, I'll probably look to get 6.5 as my baseline before pumping and a ring. Just got to finish up with this butt of an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] in a few months... This week gone by fast at least.
 
I opted to not use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today. My dick seems to enjoy a breather now and then. Hanging nice and lengthy today. I noticed two veins I have that are sort of staples looking like they're further out than usual. Good signs. I guess I kinda wish I was trained to eyeball measurements. Then again, maybe it's an even better sign that I can't and I'm noticing a substantial shift.

10 days or so til measuring time.
 
Longth;634876 said:
I opted to not use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today. My dick seems to enjoy a breather now and then. Hanging nice and lengthy today. I noticed two veins I have that are sort of staples looking like they're further out than usual. Good signs. I guess I kinda wish I was trained to eyeball measurements. Then again, maybe it's an even better sign that I can't and I'm noticing a substantial shift.

10 days or so til measuring time.

The cock needs a day off once in a while:)
 
doublelongdaddy;634908 said:
The cock needs a day off once in a while:)

I appreciate the positive vibes. Especially on days like this where I really don't think I'd mind being hugged by barbed wire. Moods is moods and people are people I guess.

So I have knots tied in what I use to attach the suction assembly to the leg strap. I noticed I can go a solid quarter inch farther from the one I was most recently under. No matter what, I know that's a good sign. So I have that today at least.

It still surprises me sometimes. I have a substantially bigger dick than I did. In both length and girth. I don't think a lot of people get into pe without overwhelming skepticism and I definitely know I was. Even after gains I made years ago, it wasn't hard to convince myself I probably just measured wrong and really just gained some eq. Made me wonder if gaining length was really possible, even after heavy gains in girth.

Maybe I'm handicapped or something.

I've started just doing very long kegals for a half hour before I get started. Really hurts to do them while extending. I am not sure yet if I will continue doing an additional half hour after the routine, because last time I did I had some turtling. I suppose the only way to find out if that's the cause is to try it out again. Going to try that tonight.

Fun fun.
 
Longth;635030 said:
I appreciate the positive vibes. Especially on days like this where I really don't think I'd mind being hugged by barbed wire. Moods is moods and people are people I guess.

So I have knots tied in what I use to attach the suction assembly to the leg strap. I noticed I can go a solid quarter inch farther from the one I was most recently under. No matter what, I know that's a good sign. So I have that today at least.

It still surprises me sometimes. I have a substantially bigger dick than I did. In both length and girth. I don't think a lot of people get into pe without overwhelming skepticism and I definitely know I was. Even after gains I made years ago, it wasn't hard to convince myself I probably just measured wrong and really just gained some eq. Made me wonder if gaining length was really possible, even after heavy gains in girth.

Maybe I'm handicapped or something.

I've started just doing very long kegals for a half hour before I get started. Really hurts to do them while extending. I am not sure yet if I will continue doing an additional half hour after the routine, because last time I did I had some turtling. I suppose the only way to find out if that's the cause is to try it out again. Going to try that tonight.

Fun fun.


Believe it of not I used to doubt myself. I would measure and measure over and over to prove to myself I had gained but 10 minutes went by an the doubts crept up again. As a matter of fact when I cut my frenulum off due to excessive measuring and the ruler slipping. Most painful thing I have ever experienced. Not a total loss, that same weekend, even though I could not do PE I did a mind experiment that invented DLD Blasters:)
 
doublelongdaddy;635044 said:
Believe it of not I used to doubt myself. I would measure and measure over and over to prove to myself I had gained but 10 minutes went by an the doubts crept up again. As a matter of fact when I cut my frenulum off due to excessive measuring and the ruler slipping. Most painful thing I have ever experienced. Not a total loss, that same weekend, even though I could not do PE I did a mind experiment that invented DLD Blasters:)

That sounds horrific. Screw metal rulers. I'll stick with my remote until I top it.

Might need to get a bigger remote after this month.

I really think the weekly days off are doing good for me. I think there's a certain point of soreness where it's not helpful to push through anymore. Much like how I suspect I was over training girth, I think there's possibly a pique time to take a day off. I'm still not fully recovered from the high stress routine. Not sure if I want to be though. Really don't think I have enough time left to really draw a solid conclusion, but I am going to give it a go.
 
shortdick;635081 said:
They are cold and hard but they dont lie..thats why we all fear them.....

They're apparently also evil.

I can't imagine they're cozy to press into a thick fat pad like mine either.

Got a chill just thinking about getting cut like that.
 
shortdick;635084 said:
I dont think youd get cut but yeah that shit hurts when measure BPEL

Exactly why I use a remote. Plus it's fun to hit the on demand button and say, I'm longer than that.

So I'm just finished with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and I have to say, as odd and uncomfortable that is when you get rings I would easily take 2 sessions of that over extending at all.

I am 8 days from measuring a month of progress. I really don't like waiting this long but I promised myself I'd give it a shot. I'm definitely interested in satisfying my curiosity but I made it this far...
 
Longth;635063 said:
That sounds horrific. Screw metal rulers. I'll stick with my remote until I top it.

Might need to get a bigger remote after this month.

I really think the weekly days off are doing good for me. I think there's a certain point of soreness where it's not helpful to push through anymore. Much like how I suspect I was over training girth, I think there's possibly a pique time to take a day off. I'm still not fully recovered from the high stress routine. Not sure if I want to be though. Really don't think I have enough time left to really draw a solid conclusion, but I am going to give it a go.

It was one of the scariest injuries I have ever had, and it was not a metal ruler it was one made of wood with on elf the metal strips running down the length of it.
 
doublelongdaddy;635129 said:
It was one of the scariest injuries I have ever had, and it was not a metal ruler it was one made of wood with on elf the metal strips running down the length of it.

I know the ones.

No more details. I'll have a heart attack.

I'm still waiting on the suction rings I ordered Monday. Really a little annoyed about it. I am also not sure if I can even rig my last one to make it through the day. I might not even have a choice about taking a day from extending.

Floop
 
Think I might have strained a ligament. Got a sharp pain during downward stretching. Not a huge deal, I just pulled at a slightly different angle. It might actually be that I ripped my skin a little, since there's a bit of movement with bundles and my fat pad. If not, at least, now I know what to avoid.

My last suction ring broke. I can rig it just enough to get suction, but it takes a lot of fiddling. Clearly not a permanent solution. I guess it doesn't matter so much, because if I did strain my lig I am going to take a day. I'm persistent but not crazy. Rings should be here Monday, so I guess it works out.
 
And no. Damn thing is not usable anymore. Really not a good deal when you can't use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] without the rings they take forever to ship.

Tomorrow is an off day then. Back to it Monday night. It's fine I guess. Maybe I'll do some light maintenance stretching. Spend the day heating my junk.

Shb fyh bjs df

EDIT: I just rechecked the invoice. Ordered them on the 30th, so this is not good.
 
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Longth;635137 said:
I know the ones.

No more details. I'll have a heart attack.

Just a little more info:) It was not all bad, when my penis healed I had gained .25" in length from the frenulum no longer constricting head to shaft length.
 
doublelongdaddy;635189 said:
Just a little more info:) It was not all bad, when my penis healed I had gained .25" in length from the frenulum no longer constricting head to shaft length.

That's an odd result, but I guess it makes sense. Least worth it quarter inch I've ever heard of though.

Why not make it an official exercise? You can call it something like "the butcher" or "the Michael Moore".
 
Longth;635205 said:
That's an odd result, but I guess it makes sense. Least worth it quarter inch I've ever heard of though.

Why not make it an official exercise? You can call it something like "the butcher" or "the Michael Moore".

The whole frenulum tying thread was largely based on my gains from loosing my frenulum:)
 
So I spent the day doing literally nothing. Rings came in but it was really too late to get started. Pretty lame day all around but tomorrow I have everything good to go, and I have under 5 weeks left of length training at the current intensity.

I'm trying to think of something [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] like for days off. Maybe wrapping and using a condom over that and heating most of my waking hours with a single round of the stretching routine morning and night. I know using a condom is a strange thought but they do seem to keep elongation pretty well. Only reason I haven't done that is I was worried about losing girth. Now I'm not concerned at all because I have seen that I can gain with two [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions a day and an all day ring. Even if I did lose some, I can get it right back.

I'm considering a 3 on 1 off cycle, with off days being just the wrapping and morning and night stretches. At the very least, it should keep me from losing anything. Three days of that intensity seems to be enough to really warrant a healing day. Mainly just want to get through the last 4 weeks and gain whatever I can before I start tapering off the length work.

For that I'm figuring 2 weeks at 7, 6, 5, and 4 hours extending each day. The stretching routine will be tapered off more slowly until I eventually get down to a morning and night routine for maintenance. Once I'm done extending, I'm going back to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] twice a day and a much less intense girth routine that will just involve edging with a ring.

So 5 weeks going like I have been, 8 weeks of tapering off extending, a girth routine I can stand while I taper off the stretching routine, possibly stepping up the girth work until I have my goal, tapering off the girth work until I get into an every other day cementing routine, and finally a maintenance routine with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], a small stretch routine, and a few times a week some jelqs and ring use during what would normally be wasted time on adult entertainment.

Thoroughly thought out. I actually put all that in my phone with reminders. It goes until September, which would be over a year of pe and cementing. Fortunately for me I really don't feel like girth work is work at all, so the hardest part of the length work will be over soon. I really don't mind my length now when I press down the fat pad, so right now is all about getting whatever extra I can because I know I want it.

And now I feel enthusiasm again. Maybe I needed to see what it was like not going for my goal for a day as a reminder. I definitely don't like the feeling. Like I let myself down even though I really did plan, what should have been, long enough ahead for those rings. I am just going to have to plan ahead better in the future, because I am sadly very sure I will need a few more of those damn things.

For the record, I was originally planning on 6 months of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] use, at least to say I tried. The reason I went down to 3 is a sort of compromise with the lady of the house. She was probably figuring it wouldn't work when I first brought it up, but now that it clearly is, and she's not exactly thrilled with the idea of a ten inches, the agreement changed to see how close to 9 I can get in 3 months. That's an inch and a half in 3 months. So I kinda am cheating with at least the first month of tapering off, because that should definitely be a gaining month, but I really don't know if 9 is possible by then. I would be damn thrilled if I managed to beat that by then though. Really wish there was a way to guarantee it. But it probably is good to have that opposing force here. I am the type to get to 15 inches and wonder why I never get laid.
 
And apparently the day has other plans for me. I guess I'm stuck with maintenance. I guess good days are a thing of the past.

Woo
 
So starting back up and adding another week of length work today. Really not thrilled with the off time, and I'm really not going to be happy if it dents my gains. Shittiest streak of days I've had in at least half a year.

Anyone want to chime in on how badly this will effect my gains? I haven't been able to do anything, but I still had a little soreness as of last night. So I guess the hope is I was forced into healing time I needed but really didn't want.

The answer I'm thinking is some people see gains from breaks like this due to just needing time to heal, or overtraining. Others might loose some, but are generally able to gain it back quickly. More still aren't effected at all. Anyone who actually loses due to a 3 day interruption is probably doing poorly in the luck department.

Don't know if that's exactly right but I feel like I'm doing piss poor in the luck department.
 
Longth;635610 said:
So starting back up and adding another week of length work today. Really not thrilled with the off time, and I'm really not going to be happy if it dents my gains. Shittiest streak of days I've had in at least half a year.

Anyone want to chime in on how badly this will effect my gains? I haven't been able to do anything, but I still had a little soreness as of last night. So I guess the hope is I was forced into healing time I needed but really didn't want.

The answer I'm thinking is some people see gains from breaks like this due to just needing time to heal, or overtraining. Others might loose some, but are generally able to gain it back quickly. More still aren't effected at all. Anyone who actually loses due to a 3 day interruption is probably doing poorly in the luck department.

Don't know if that's exactly right but I feel like I'm doing piss poor in the luck department.

Gains are much like muscle in the way of muscle memory, temporary gains return very quickly just like muscle returns quickly. It is no use feeling badly about your time away, it is much better to see it as a decon break. Many men, after deconditioning find themselves gaining much faster then when there training previously. Also remember that a good attitude is far better than a negative one.
 
oh yeah started the last month and i didnt exercise for two weeks,and now this month i didnt exercise yesterday and last week i skipped one day off too.....
 
doublelongdaddy;635612 said:
Gains are much like muscle in the way of muscle memory, temporary gains return very quickly just like muscle returns quickly. It is no use feeling badly about your time away, it is much better to see it as a decon break. Many men, after deconditioning find themselves gaining much faster then when there training previously. Also remember that a good attitude is far better than a negative one.

I guess it's true there's no sense in dwelling. I suppose there are some positives to even losing some time like that. I'm definitely less focused on how tough the work is and I'm more concerned with the end result. My glans have fully healed from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], and I get another shot at it with the approach I used just to maintain some degree of comfort. Most of what's been up with me is fixed and I have some room to breathe. And really, I was dreading my routine until I couldn't do it. Definitely took it for granted.

It's honestly pretty amazing I made it so long without things making it impossible. I guess I'm getting better at staying on top of things. That's definitely a positive.

Really appreciate the reminder to get my head out of the gutter.
 
shortdick;635619 said:
oh yeah started the last month and i didnt exercise for two weeks,and now this month i didnt exercise yesterday and last week i skipped one day off too.....

Taking a day off isn't a bad thing. You have to be able to reward yourself for the hard work you put in and not feel bad about it. But yea, 2 weeks might be a little too much rewarding for pe, unless you've been at it for years maybe.
 
Longth;635637 said:
Taking a day off isn't a bad thing. You have to be able to reward yourself for the hard work you put in and not feel bad about it. But yea, 2 weeks might be a little too much rewarding for pe, unless you've been at it for years maybe.

i was just thinking about all of the years and the time i have invest in PE,and how i have been living whit a self sabotage behaviour,its quite terrible because now that i feel i may want and need gains there is not much,Is so sad and devastating but excuses will never end,Kill the skepticism and gains should show....
 
shortdick;635641 said:
i was just thinking about all of the years and the time i have invest in PE,and how i have been living whit a self sabotage behaviour,its quite terrible because now that i feel i may want and need gains there is not much,Is so sad and devastating but excuses will never end,Kill the skepticism and gains should show....

The only way to kill skepticism is do everything exactly how you should for at least 3 months straight. If you do it as right as you can for that long and gain nothing, then you can rule it out forever. That's what this routine was for me. Following all the advice and going by the book. If I gained nothing I could lay it to rest and say I did all I could. But I did gain, and noticeably so. So my doubt is gone.

The best thing you can do is really do it all the way. Worst case, you're free, best case, you're huge. Win win.
 
Really just saying you're never going to stop wondering until you do the work to be sure. You're stuck until you do, it seems. Makes more sense to do it up.
 
yeah i woulnt say i havent gained but being inconsistent maybe, 3 months non stop 2 weeks off and started whit new suff that was a quite terrible thing.but i think im understanding the PE process after all of these years:P and IMO having a PE state of mind is key,PE are skills that we have to develop not only physically but mentally too is very interesting i would say...
 
Just some life advice on the topic bro, something one of my closest friends and mentors in the military taught me. "Don't dwell on time lost, every day is a new day. Engage in the now or you will miss the next opportunity in front of you."

It was a weak of downtime, probably good rest for your ligs after the injury you felt too. Now your revved up and ready to go. Looking forward to seeing your new gains man.
 
JakeM82;635665 said:
Just some life advice on the topic bro, something one of my closest friends and mentors in the military taught me. "Don't dwell on time lost, every day is a new day. Engage in the now or you will miss the next opportunity in front of you."

It was a weak of downtime, probably good rest for your ligs after the injury you felt too. Now your revved up and ready to go. Looking forward to seeing your new gains man.

Excellent advice! Brothers need to realize that giving time to the past or future destroys their energy in the now. The past and future do not exist, they never will....when someone can hand me my past or future and I can measure it I will subscribe to it. But I can accomplish anything in the now, a forever moment that strings together like a sheet of music.
 
well finished [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]+stretchings..the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] gonna wait until tommorrow
 
The advice is so old you'd think it'd be an afterthought. The future is an idea. The past is a memory. Right now is a gift. That's why it's called the present.

Paraphrasing, but true enough.
 
I guess I have a slight upward curve. I don't think anything I'm doing would just create that effect, so maybe it was always there and all the kegals are unveiling it. That's really weird.

I also discovered I'm pretty close to as long as the space between my elbow and wrist. I have to admit that's a bit intimidating. It's definitely a solid inch or more shorter, but that definitely opens up my head a little on what my dick actually looks like to a girl. I'm betting I would be pretty close to the classic forearm comparisons they do in adult entertainment with my fat pad back to normal levels.

I'm also starting with some weighted training. A vest and ankle and wrist weights. If extending is going to keep me off the treadmill then I might as well try burning up fat with some serious old school methods. Kinda reminds me of watching dragon ball z as a kid. Training like a saiyan.

I've finally decided what to do with kegals. I'm going to do 15 minutes of long steady holds during the heating pad warm ups and warm downs. Then I will do a set of 200 quick kegals before each stretching session. Not super fast. The full squeezes. Then one more set before the edging and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] marm down. 1000 solid squeezes a day and a half hour of relentlessly tiring out the PC muscle with hard long holds.

My latest version of my current routine.

15 minutes warm up with heating pad, long hard held kegals.
200 full squeezes
One set of the stretching routine.
2 hours 40 minutes [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with heating pad
Repeat last 3 steps to a solid 8 hours of extending.
After last set of stretching, 15 to 30 minutes edging with a ring, 10-20 on, 5 off. 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] (going to try twist correction).
Loose ring on for all down time.
Warm down, 15 minutes with heating pad with long hard kegals.
Rest of the time alternate between heating pad and lazy ass stretch.
Over night, in place of wrapping, hold entire scrotum between the legs.

That's 3 on 1 off. I'm figuring off days will just be 3 sets of the stretching routine throughout the day and wrapping while using the heating pad. If it winds up being too much I will just take out the mid day stretches. I don't think it will be. Throttling a routine like that seems to do well for me. Maybe I will even take every other off day down to just wrapping and heat. See if I can't take advantage of both ideas.

Not sure about the ratio on the lazy ass stretch. I know it's primary function is a flaccid length exercise but I think it's not a bad idea for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. The overnight scrotum hold is pretty similar in it's premise. They both feel a bit more active than wrapping, which is the only reason I'd really do either one over it. Definitely seems like it would be more effective for passive ligament work. Not sure about the ratio with the LA stretch and heating pad though. My first thought is something like 10 minutes heating pad and 20 minutes LA stretch.

So yet another positive out of the involuntary break, I have had time to tweak a few specifics. Now let's see if I can't top 9 inches over these last 3 months of extending.
 
Doesn't look like my BPFSL is shorter. If anything it's a little more. Looks like I was all bent out of shape over nothing.

Seems like things are a little deconditioned as well. Stretching causes soreness sooner than it did before. Maybe it was literally a good thing. Still adding another week for good measure. Don't want to feel like I cheated here. Definitely so much less distressed over it.
 
Longth;635771 said:
Doesn't look like my BPFSL is shorter. If anything it's a little more. Looks like I was all bent out of shape over nothing.

Seems like things are a little deconditioned as well. Stretching causes soreness sooner than it did before. Maybe it was literally a good thing. Still adding another week for good measure. Don't want to feel like I cheated here. Definitely so much less distressed over it.

Stay committed, hit your goals. Your staying positive and that's the right attitude bro. You're gonna gain more, even it if means one extra week, in the grand scheme, it's nothing.
 
Positive thinking or not, I now am hosting a huge blister because of this damn [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I think I am done with it. But that means I need to fill the void with something less. Which sucks, but between all the peeling and now this half inch high eruption from the head of my dick, I'm officially declaring this thing not safe and too much of a hassle for even myself to bother with.

Going with wrapping with heat. Not as good, but I will probably add some more stretches. Maybe just some extra straight bundled stretches. No way I'm up for another one of these.

But obviously ruling out [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] until it heals. Still ok to stretch, but oye. What a crap week. I guess it's fine. Never liked the thing and always felt like it wasn't doing much of anything. Now I just don't care.
 
I already have a new planned out routine.

5 times a day,
4 bundled Mandingo, 4 unbundled with lig press, 2 30 second bundled stretches straight out.
Rest of the day wrapped with heat and LA stretch.
Warm up and warm down unchanged. Kegals unchanged. Cycle unchanged with one light day every fourth day and one off day wrapping with heat every eighth day.

All I'm losing is the slow and painful part. If I can't make gains doing this then I am out of luck.
 
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