I am going with 10 minutes Mandingo stretch before [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] in the morning and 5 minutes before the 3 edging sessions after the morning routine. I was just too impressed with the pump to not want to see how it effects everything. The routine by itself should be a big gainer girth wise. The additional priapism [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] should just be a kicker, and maybe serve as a length gainer. I should gain something length wise with the bundles and the twisted erect stretch I'll be doing, but my length has been a douche in the past so we'll see.

Couldn't sleep last night, which is pretty status quo for me before I start anything new. Truly too tired for the exercise regimen I had planned, so that will just start tomorrow. It's technically probably more important, but I can manage pe with a ton less physical exertion. Seems like a damn good routine. Jake really hit a nail with the bundles before girth. Just plain silly the difference that made.
 
Which viagra did you buy? Also I think you posted your picks wrong because it just comes out blank
 
Longth;666746 said:
Ok, so I have my pics, couldn't really get a good pic of me maintaining erection while holding the remote and trying to get the camera angle right. Kind of a juggling act just to get the girth photo up. If you can't tell that piece of paper is a standard 11" side ripped off and I'm a little over half of it, coming to about 6 total. My erect length goes up to the bottom of the top button on the remote.

Yes, obviously, it's not half bad at all, but I have always wanted more. I'll get more in depth with the details as I work through them. I'm going to be throwing in some bundled stretching before the girth work, probably a longer session before the morning [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I'll decide later. For now it's rest time.

lol, sounds like a typical measuring session:) One day we will have a way to fool the penis into not thinking it is being measured:)
 
templnite;666818 said:
Which viagra did you buy? Also I think you posted your picks wrong because it just comes out blank

Got generic. Seems pretty effective. Really had no idea what to expect but it did what it clImed if would. High arousal, no loss of control, maybe even more control. Blew it kinda testing the limits.

So I did 3 hours straight, and then another 2 hours on and off. My pc muscle is tired. I'm tired. 1 hour sleep and just ready to crash. Routine is very solid. High impact exercises that could probably do a lot on their own. Bundles before girth aught to be stickied or announced seriously. I'd elaborate but no brain left.
 
Alright...

So I feel nicely recovered, The Viagra worked fine, definitely well enough to get to the 6 hour mark. I did continue on for another 2 hours on and off but it seems like orgasm crushes the effect a bit. Just a learning experience in my book.

I've retained a great deal of the pump from yesterday, and I'll be sticking to this routine until I just can't. I think my planned days off should cut it. Thursday will be a light day and Sunday will just be cementing with priapism. Or prolonged erect states. So far as actually exercising we'll see. I found yesterday to be incredibly draining, but if nothing else I think some cardio will do it so far as weight loss.

Still off of cigarettes and using the ecig. Really not very hard once you get something you like. Worst case with these is you spend a lot of the day puffing on steam. I can live with that for a while. Especially when the alternative is freezing my ass off outside and puffing on a dinky death machine. Stuff even tastes good. He'll they even have mint so you can have fresh breath all day. Good stuff.

The doc Johnson's rings are actually excellent. They're barely flexible, which is what is what I was after. Only took me like 5 rings to get something almost like the screwball ring, but these actually might be better in the pe sense. Just need to be careful taking them off. I got the 3 sizes slate colored one. If you need a ring, that's where I'm recommending you go, unless you've found better.

And I guess I should get a move on if I'm going to be done on time. Don't want to be late for my date with the magic pills.
 
Longth;667073 said:
AAnd I guess I should get a move on if I'm going to be done on time. Don't want to be late for my date with the magic pills.

Truly magical and so cool that they are so cheap now. i remember my first Viagra costed me $18.00 a pill! Today, seeing you can get for 100th of a price is amazing!
 
doublelongdaddy;667190 said:
Truly magical and so cool that they are so cheap now. i remember my first Viagra costed me $18.00 a pill! Today, seeing you can get for 100th of a price is amazing!

If that were still the case I wouldn't bother with this experiment at all

And another failed attempt at it. So I'm going to take a wild guess and say my eq is a little erratic from all the work. So... I'm going to make a few changes... This is in spite of some clear advancement girth wise. But between having to pee and irregular eq, it's just getting annoying. I'm going to start by taking a couple rounds of stretching out. The pumped up state vs bundles is kinda much after the second time edging with ring. I feel like taking out the second [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session would be a mistake, because that gets things to be more uniform.

The way it went today was I was initially able to maintain a pretty strong erection mentally. Then I started with adult entertainment and before very long it was a legitimate challenge. I took the second at around the two hour mark and shortly after it was over. It had started to be ineffective before I took the second dose, so now I'm going to have to figure out dosage for it at a procedure.

So I'm going to do some research.
 
I have shoddy eq from time to time. Its always because I train like two days in a row without cumming at the end, and by the third day there's just no possibility of expansion.

I have successfully trained up to three days in a row without ejaculating, but there comes a day when the cock just won't budge, and I just try my best to get a pump. Then I cum, and do a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words] after which I just call it a day.

You'll probably bounce back stronger, and with residual expansion tomorrow
 
templnite;667216 said:
I have shoddy eq from time to time. Its always because I train like two days in a row without cumming at the end, and by the third day there's just no possibility of expansion.

I have successfully trained up to three days in a row without ejaculating, but there comes a day when the cock just won't budge, and I just try my best to get a pump. Then I cum, and do a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words] after which I just call it a day.

You'll probably bounce back stronger, and with residual expansion tomorrow

I hope that's the case but I do need to chill tf out with the bundles later in the day. I'm able to draw comparisons to Rocky Balboa with the wonky eye. Another day or all that and my dick might literally start screaming "Adrien!".

I seriously never have trouble with keeping from the edge. I can even fall off a few times now and use a trick or two to bounce back instantly. That's why I'm so frustrated. I'm ridiculously well conditioned with edging, so this just seems stupid to be a problem now.
 
Fighting through the crazy soreness today, with tomorrow being a light day. I read up on the max dose for Viagra. Turns out 300 is fda approved. Which just so happens to work perfectly for me. But it does shave two weeks off the growth period. Guess I'm going to have to see where that gets me, but if the expansion I'm getting is any indication, it might be smart to see how cementing goes before I try another round.

Aside from attempting priapism and a thorough beating of a routine, I'm trying to get erect as often as possible throughout the day. Basically all out [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words]. It won't be long before I see if I can honestly manage priapism or how well it works. Honestly just three hours in that state is draining like a mofo. Throw in the two hours of edging with a ring daily and the chubs here and there, I'm liable to spend a solid third of the day or more erect. That's 8 hours of pumped up erection. If I stave off injury it has to do something.

So we'll see how it goes within the limits of the fda. It's intimidating but it's for a good cause. A gigantic, girthy monster dong.
 
Longth;667320 said:
Fighting through the crazy soreness today, with tomorrow being a light day. I read up on the max dose for Viagra. Turns out 300 is fda approved. Which just so happens to work perfectly for me. But it does shave two weeks off the growth period. Guess I'm going to have to see where that gets me, but if the expansion I'm getting is any indication, it might be smart to see how cementing goes before I try another round.

Aside from attempting priapism and a thorough beating of a routine, I'm trying to get erect as often as possible throughout the day. Basically all out [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words]. It won't be long before I see if I can honestly manage priapism or how well it works. Honestly just three hours in that state is draining like a mofo. Throw in the two hours of edging with a ring daily and the chubs here and there, I'm liable to spend a solid third of the day or more erect. That's 8 hours of pumped up erection. If I stave off injury it has to do something.

So we'll see how it goes within the limits of the fda. It's intimidating but it's for a good cause. A gigantic, girthy monster dong.

I am so happy you are joining me in this experiment, I hope you find some great ideas in your research. So far for me it has been all about Tunica Expansion and how this will effect gains.
 
doublelongdaddy;667420 said:
I am so happy you are joining me in this experiment, I hope you find some great ideas in your research. So far for me it has been all about Tunica Expansion and how this will effect gains.

Wish I could be more help but so far my dick is just too beat to take advantage, and I went through six pills today just to see if an od would do it. Even without orgasm my dick was just too tired to get it done after about 3 hours. I did get some bizarre visual effects but virtually nothing by way of arousal. My routine might just be too intense after all, but it seems to be working a bit.

Tomorrow is a light day. I need to figure out a better strategy for the rest of the week.

So not smoothly.
 
Kinda letting actual priapism go and now working on just getting in as much erect time in per day as I can. After realizing that an actual priapism, which is where you have a surging massive erection going for 4 hours or more, just isn't possible, I'm going to take the lesser approach with using the Viagra as an eq aid during the routine, and then using it for as much random erect time afterwards.

Disappointing a little, but I think having added eq and the several hours I've been able to manage without going totally overboard should work pretty well, although not as instantaneous as priapism would have been. I'm also going to lower the reps for bundles to 10 minutes before each [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session. Other than that, it'll stay the same.

Occasionally my stubborn attitude works out for me. A shame this isn't one of them.
 
I guess it's time for a new plan then.

3 on 1 light, 2 on 1 maintenance, always with a snug ring to retain expansion

Days On

Morning Routine
10 minutes Mandingo stretch
15 minutes high pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], kegeling frequently
30 minutes edging with a ring, hard kegels while fully erect, reverse kegels to avoid overstimulation

Mid Day Expansion Retention Routine
Loose ring during down time
5 minutes directional bundles
30 minutes edging with a ring, hard kegels to enlarge, reverse kegels to avoid climax
Repeat once

Afternoon Routine
10 minutes straight down bundled stretching
30 Minutes edging with a ring with kegels
15 minutes low pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], heavy kegels

Evening Routine
Kegels, kegels, so many kegels.
Erect kegels if possible


Light Days

Morning Routine
10 minutes Mandingo stretch
15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], high pressure, frequent kegels

Mid Day Routine
5 Minutes directional stretching
30 minutes edging with a ring, kegels and reverse kegels

Afternoon Routine
10 minutes downward bundles
15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], lower pressure, frequent kegels

Evening Routine
Mainly just looking for as much erect time as possible to help cementing.


Maintenance Days

Morning Routine
15 minutes lower pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], no kegels

Evening Routine
15 minutes lower pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], no kegels


Hypothesis; The Kegel Principle

Basically, I think kegels are going to help me out a bit. The biggest gainers generally seem to do them a shit load, and you can see plenty of adult entertainment stars that have absolutely huge pc muscles. When you pump your pc muscle there's a jump in both length and girth. So I figure if I make that a central issue it could actually be a huge help.

But I think other work is required to take advantage of the added size and strength of the pc muscle. Kinda think not working the pc muscle is why gains don't cement. So I guess I will test out going all ham on the sob 6 days a week. If nothing else my eq will get to the point where my dick is basically begging to get bigger right?

Might just be about time I listen to the elders and take it to the extremes they have. Dld preaches kegels as hard as he preaches [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words]. So let's do both and see how hard it hits the measuring stick in a month. I've certainly applied [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] to a pretty full extent. I've seen kegels make an impact, but maybe I didn't realize how much credit they should have gotten. Idk. Seems as good a routine as any.
 
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Longth;667732 said:
Kinda letting actual priapism go and now working on just getting in as much erect time in per day as I can. After realizing that an actual priapism, which is where you have a surging massive erection going for 4 hours or more, just isn't possible, I'm going to take the lesser approach with using the Viagra as an eq aid during the routine, and then using it for as much random erect time afterwards.

That is OK my man, I am still on it. I want for you to grow bigger, not put all your time into a theory, I will do this as I am not looking for gains. I like the new workout, it looks like it will be great for you. I do appreciate your help in my experimenting!
 
doublelongdaddy;667919 said:
That is OK my man, I am still on it. I want for you to grow bigger, not put all your time into a theory, I will do this as I am not looking for gains. I like the new workout, it looks like it will be great for you. I do appreciate your help in my experimenting!

Yea, Idk if maybe I'm just not well enough trained pc muscle wise or what but Viagra is very all or none for me. Kinda sucks but mine is pretty good for someone who doesn't do kegels as a part of every day life (yet). It's crazy. I can last way longer without it but I lose eq by the end. This stuff my eq flies all over the damn place.

Either way it seems like a bigger and stronger pc muscle is important if I want to go any farther. May very well be the only reason my length routine started working after a while of no gains off pretty much the same stuff. There's a bottleneck somewhere. Just have to figure it out.
 
Just be careful with that dosing there my friend, there is a reason they say "Make sure your heart is healthy enough for sex." with ED medicine.
 
Hey man good for you! This seems like a much better approach as the tunica stays stretched for a good amount of hours without an ongoing erection anyway.
I sympathize with you about bundles after the fact bro. One thing I envy borninfigi of is that he doesn't get fluid with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] XD. If I try to bundle later in the day with still some fluid, my skin takes the full punishment which I can't bear honestly.
 
templnite;667969 said:
Hey man good for you! This seems like a much better approach as the tunica stays stretched for a good amount of hours without an ongoing erection anyway.
I sympathize with you about bundles after the fact bro. One thing I envy borninfigi of is that he doesn't get fluid with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] XD. If I try to bundle later in the day with still some fluid, my skin takes the full punishment which I can't bear honestly.

Yea, I've had a little retention if I go in less than fully erect, or if I go that one pump too far.. And I know exactly what you mean by the skin taking the brunt of it trying to bundle with that going on. I don't really seem to have a lot of problems with using [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] twice a day as long as it's spaced out right. Usually like 9am and 9pm. Don't normally get any water retention that way.
 
JakeM82;667967 said:
Just be careful with that dosing there my friend, there is a reason they say "Make sure your heart is healthy enough for sex." with ED medicine.

Lol yea, I already nixed the high dosage thing. I got to 600 and got nothing new erection wise, but I did get a fear and loathing looking trip out of it. My heart is strong like bull.

Nah, it was dumb, but I was frustrated, and it didn't fix it. Another failed pe experiment. Live and learn and much many proverbial things.
 
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