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Well, I haven't trained regullarery for a while, but I am in good shape. That's what they call me: "the shape". I took some blood tests today, regarding cholesterol, liver, kidneys etc. I also understand that if your adrenal glands are fatigued, then you may not get an erection, and I am today in pure english finished mentally and physically because I am worried. I have done my share of depression also, so I need to rest. I don't take any medecines, except antibiotics, and for supplements, I take multivitamins, fishoil and zma at night. Diet wise is pure and simple farm food. No, low fat/ carb/ protein whatever, just real food, in other words steak and potatoes and bread with cheese. Keep in mind that there is noone in my family that have any history of diabetes, high blood pressure or bad heart. My grandparents died of cancer, and lived to be 80+. I also had a thread going on thunderss, but I got banned from....yes, that's right: thunderss. He refused to believe my story, and said it was all mental. I am not really blaming Penis Enlargement, I'm just saying that I was extremely unlucky, and now I have serious issues mentally also. But, I am in good hands, I actually told my parents about it, and I am going for regular check ups, because I sometimes get anxiety attacks, and I get a very high pulse rate. So, that's my life for the moment, one day I have so much energy that I want to fix everything by taking this and that and training like a madman, and the next day I am confused and crushed and just sleep all day. It's been like this for 2 months, but yesterday a fellow comrade PM me on this board, and said that he was getting way better after 14 months of rest, and that made me more calm. If you want you can read the thread "Penis Enlargement gave me ED" on thunderss, and see how fucked up the mods are over there, I couldn't believe the stupidity from these guys, and the whole intention with the post was to reach out to people with similar experience. Anyways, long story short, I told thunderss to back of my thread and don't be an asshole and that was it: banned. Yeah, yeah, fuck, I'm not that weak, I'm still here, trying to make the best of it. I'll keep you guys posted.
 
And another thing: I really appreciate the feedback from you guys.
I know this isn't a head doctor page, and yes I may sound annoying when I come here and whine, but I don't give a fuck, because it helps me through the day. So, again, thanks for the support.
 
MrNilsen said:
And another thing: I really appreciate the feedback from you guys.
I know this isn't a head doctor page, and yes I may sound annoying when I come here and whine, but I don't give a fuck, because it helps me through the day. So, again, thanks for the support.

Its a pleasure man. Sometimes we all need someone who encourages us and pushes the best in ourselves. Take care of that dick of yours:)
 
Okay this gives me some more usefull data to think about.

Check the diabetes also, cause even if there has been noone with it in your family you could develop it nonetheless. That condition has lead to impotence before but i don't think it is your case. Check it to be sure anyway.

Your diet seems to be okay unless there is a high amount of sugar in it so check that too while you are at it.

What is the name of the antibiotic and for how long have you been taking them and at what amount? What are you taking them for? They could also disturb the endocrine system.

Forget the ZMA it only helps you sleep and is not worth the money. Keep going on the efa's ( essencial fatty accids ) I.e., the fish oil. It helps many things and prevents even more things.

The anxiety issue is a bonner killer so relax and think of it as your worst enemy but without stressing about it or the cure would become the problem, you follow me?

Also check for colesterol issues as well as triglicerydes, those are also bad news when not within normal values.

Hint: Eat all the pumpkin pie or soup you can handle, pumpkin is a BIG TIME natural viagra so use and abuse at will. The more the better.

Check on blood pressure as well, should be in the 120/80 target.

Keep us posted

Peace

Mike
 
Update: I can stimulate myself to get a pretty descent erection now, but the shaft is still spongy, I don't get. Damage, for real, I have no idea of what kind. If I can get my erections back, then thank God. Anyone, out there, that might know if this will heal?
 
MrNilson it sounds like there is some improvement at least for you, you mentioned before you could barely get an erection didn't you? was the erection natural or by Viagra? Neverless this sounds like things are a bit better at least.

MrNilson I am wondering also have you found that the throb in your penis has gone? Mine is real weak when flacid I can barely feel anything when erect the pulse feel is still quite weak I think even when I have a raging hardon. I remember my dick would like vibrate damn I miss erections like that. Although mind you I do have a weak pulse on my neck and wrist etc lol I know it sounds stupid but could this be related to my weak throbbing penis? Maybe not.

Unfortunately I am not that knowledgeable on E.D. fixes MrNilson but from reading Tbirdy's posts veinous leaks can be somewhat repaired but the surgery success rate is low sadly. I think Tbirdy had surgery it was sucessful only for a few weeks I think. You will know if you have a veinous leak if blood rushes out of the shaft very quickly apparently if you can not keep an erection standing up at least this is a bad veinous leak I think because standing up is supposed to be one of the easiests ways to maintain being hard. Indeed some of Tbirdys posts were scary to be honest and reading some poor guys E.D. stories gave me erection failure for a week because it all got to my head I think and convinced myself my E.D. was bad. Apparently Tbirdy mentions if you damage any of the spongy tissue it can not be cured by surgery and I think the injury is so serious that in order for a guy to have sex an implant is needed. Scary shit. I guess veinous leaks can be more serious if the damage is bad enough because I have been hearing of guys who have done P.E. only after that only being able to get 70% or 80% erection sounds serious and must mean there are big leaks in the penis because hardly blood can achieve a full erection. Orbital had some theories on P.E. jelq damage etc pretty scary stuff I think after months of quiting P.E. and members can only just half semi erection they are fucked.

I think I have some sort of small veinous leak mainly because my glands do not fill up fully like they should and more to the point like they used to. Oh well.

Obviously anyone with bad E.D. seriously research surgery methods first because the success rate is quite low from what I have read.
 
If you have venous leak, then you have to take a doppler test at the urologists, and talk to him regarding operations or just treat it with viagra or pumping. I think I am bit like you (please don't get offended),thinking that I will find an answer here at this site, for why I have this ED. If you have damage, then you have damage, be it tissue, nerves, or venous leaks. I will just have to take all the tests, including one for the nerves, if they have one, and take it from there. The point is: I have gained in flacccid length, but my erections are so shitty now, that the question is, will I have to do some kind Penis Enlargement, be it pumping, jelqing etc, for life? I just started with Penis Enlargement, because I was embarresed with flaccid length, errections wise it was fine, meaning; girls came back to me to have more sex, and there I was, obsessing with my flaccid, since I am/ was an extreme grower. I read about Pandoras plaque theory, but again, why would I, have the same kind of plaque in my arteries, as an old man? Doesn't make any sense to me, but then again, I could try B.T.B jelqs, if all the tests comes out fine. I may sound negative here, but when you have spongy erection for two months, then it is probably to some degree permanent damage. Now, I still want to have a healthy sex life, an I guess you also do, so I think I am more or less are going to face that I have ED, find a nice partner, and take it from there, be it cock rings, viagra, pumping whatever... If anyone, wants to comment here, please do, but it doesn't look that good for me. Remember, I have no idea, how I got this, except from two bad stretches, tough luck for me..But at least I'm not that depressed anymore, there are more to life than size and erections, and in the end if a woman falls in love with you, she will probably understand that you have a handicap, and things may not be in tip top shape down there, and if they don't, then adios, bye bye... We are still men here, remember that.
 
MrNilsen said:
If you have venous leak, then you have to take a doppler test at the urologists, and talk to him regarding operations or just treat it with viagra or pumping. I think I am bit like you (please don't get offended),thinking that I will find an answer here at this site, for why I have this ED. If you have damage, then you have damage, be it tissue, nerves, or venous leaks. I will just have to take all the tests, including one for the nerves, if they have one, and take it from there. The point is: I have gained in flacccid length, but my erections are so shitty now, that the question is, will I have to do some kind Penis Enlargement, be it pumping, jelqing etc, for life? I just started with Penis Enlargement, because I was embarresed with flaccid length, errections wise it was fine, meaning; girls came back to me to have more sex, and there I was, obsessing with my flaccid, since I am/ was an extreme grower. I read about Pandoras plaque theory, but again, why would I, have the same kind of plaque in my arteries, as an old man? Doesn't make any sense to me, but then again, I could try B.T.B jelqs, if all the tests comes out fine. I may sound negative here, but when you have spongy erection for two months, then it is probably to some degree permanent damage. Now, I still want to have a healthy sex life, an I guess you also do, so I think I am more or less are going to face that I have ED, find a nice partner, and take it from there, be it cock rings, viagra, pumping whatever... If anyone, wants to comment here, please do, but it doesn't look that good for me. Remember, I have no idea, how I got this, except from two bad stretches, tough luck for me..But at least I'm not that depressed anymore, there are more to life than size and erections, and in the end if a woman falls in love with you, she will probably understand that you have a handicap, and things may not be in tip top shape down there, and if they don't, then adios, bye bye... We are still men here, remember that.


Ok the plaque thing is not my theory is it pretty much a fact not theory, and it is bigger Bibs, he first wrote about this and what had happened to him, I just experience the same thing as him, It's weird I'm very young and healthy too but I manged to get plaque stuck in my penis somehow from doing Penis Enlargement, these thing happen. Do you have any buzzing in the head or anywhere at all. Bigger is the person that makes the Bib hangers and I has made great gains doing Penis Enlargement he is 10.5 inch's.

Like I said ask him he will help you out if he can.
 
When it comes to buzzing, hard to say, I have no idea what that means.
I can contact BIB, but can you tell your story about your ED?
How long did last? How did the erections feel? Did you get any kind of morning erections etc.. Also when did you notice benefits from B.T.B jelqs?
I may have plaque though, since I have tried high fat, low carb, several times for "fun", meaning I'm not fat etc...
 
plaque in the penis? what is that exactly, sorry for being clueless here. It does seem many of us younger guys get these E.D. issues and those who are like 40+ or something don't it seems. Like Pandora is the same age as me and it sounds like you may of experienced erection problems? Sorry if I am wrong there. I have noticed guys like 19 or 20 using Viagra and stuff on P.E. forums because P.E. seems to of exhausted their dicks, the fact is guys this age should not need them period. I honestly think men under (at least) 40 should not need Viagra, unless of course they have a very poor diet or/and are heavy on drinking alcohol and smoking then that may be possible but otherwise I think men should still not need to use it.

MrNilson I agree are situations are similar but luckily I do not think my issues are as serious as others I have seen no where near.

Do you know when the test results will come back?

Another thing Pandora what is buzzing in the head of the penis, which I am guessing you are referring to? is that like a dull ache in the glands like sort of throbs a bit?
 
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Well, plaque is a kind of build up "trash" in your veins, that everybody has to some degree, unless you are very young. This comes from poor diet, pollution etc. When you excersice you also manipulate your blood veins, making them better to deliver oxygen, removing co2 and remove some of this plaque. Now what BIB is sayins that, when you are manipulating the veins in your dick, you may dislodge some kind of "trash"/ plaque and that will result in insufficient plumbing, meaning less blood in your dick.
My results will come during this week, and I just hope, things will get better, but then again, it isn't the worst thing that could happen, young men die from cancer everyday, so if I have to take a blue pill, then I have to take a blue pill... Time will tell...





TheNextBIGThing said:
plaque in the penis? what is that exactly, sorry for being clueless here. It does seem many of us younger guys get these E.D. issues and those who are like 40+ or something like Pandora is the same age as me and it sounds like you may of experienced erection problems? Sorry if I am wrong there. I have noticed guys like 19 or 20 using Viagra and stuff on P.E. forums because P.E. seems to of exhausted their dicks, the fact is guys this age should not need them period. I honestly think men under (at least) 40 should not need Viagra, unless of course they have a very poor diet or/and are heavy on drinking alcohol and smoking then that may be possible but otherwise I think men should still not need to use it.

MrNilson I agree are situations are similar but luckily I do not think my issues are as serious as others I have seen no where near.

Do you know when the test results will come back?
 
Ah okay so how can someone tell their penis has plaque? If this is to do with bad circulation in the penis then I guess if someone had plaque in their penis, their penis would have a hard feel to it when flaccid (and not soft and spongy like it should be). This would give the penis a "turtled" effect I assume where the penis basically shrinks down a lot sort of like how when you would come out of a swimming pool where the penis looks really shrunk but it would feel hard flaccid. I noticed my temporary times at the gym that my penis shrunk a bit only for a short time though.
 
I have really no idea.. anyway, pandora brought it up, so maybe he knows. It's not something I am willing to risk at this point (B.T.B jelqs), maybe later.


TheNextBIGThing said:
Ah okay so how can someone tell their penis has plaque? If this is to do with bad circulation in the penis then I guess if someone had plaque in their penis, their penis would have a hard feel to it when flaccid (and not soft and spongy like it should be). This would give the penis a "turtled" effect I assume where the penis basically shrinks down a lot sort of like how when you would come out of a swimming pool where the penis looks really shrunk but it would feel hard flaccid. I noticed my temporary times at the gym that my penis shrunk a bit only for a short time though.
 
MrNilsen said:
When it comes to buzzing, hard to say, I have no idea what that means.
I can contact BIB, but can you tell your story about your ED?
How long did last? How did the erections feel? Did you get any kind of morning erections etc.. Also when did you notice benefits from B.T.B jelqs?
I may have plaque though, since I have tried high fat, low carb, several times for "fun", meaning I'm not fat etc...

I don't remember, not as good erection, not as high sex drive as I usually had and just stuff like that.

B.T.B makes my erection harder and makes them last longer, just makes blood flow better.
 
TheNextBIGThing said:
plaque in the penis? what is that exactly, sorry for being clueless here. It does seem many of us younger guys get these E.D. issues and those who are like 40+ or something don't it seems. Like Pandora is the same age as me and it sounds like you may of experienced erection problems? Sorry if I am wrong there. I have noticed guys like 19 or 20 using Viagra and stuff on P.E. forums because P.E. seems to of exhausted their dicks, the fact is guys this age should not need them period. I honestly think men under (at least) 40 should not need Viagra, unless of course they have a very poor diet or/and are heavy on drinking alcohol and smoking then that may be possible but otherwise I think men should still not need to use it.

MrNilson I agree are situations are similar but luckily I do not think my issues are as serious as others I have seen no where near.

Do you know when the test results will come back?

Another thing Pandora what is buzzing in the head of the penis, which I am guessing you are referring to? is that like a dull ache in the glands like sort of throbs a bit?

I never really had erection problems, they were just not as hard as I was use to.

hyperlite said:
there is a little bit of "buzzing". I havent been able to get that throbbing feeling since this happened. My staying power isnt the same and my penis feels softer all the time


Ok I hope this helps to solve your problem.

Hi guys, i found some very interesting posts from Bib:

"Please forgive me, I thought I remembered that, but lost it. Without proper (increased) circulation, you cannot see any gains which may have been made. If there is not an increase in the amount of blood, there is nothing to fill the larger space.

I have related many times the incident I had with jelqing behind my balls, the sudden electric zip to the head of my penis, and subsequent gains. My theory is, a piece of plaque broke loose and flew up my shaft, probably to lodge somewhere else. This allowed for greater blood flow, a better erection, and display of the gains made during previous work.

Phat has related a similar result doing horse squeezes. The reverse pressure and work seems to have opened up the blood bearing tissues further within his body, creating better erections and showing the gains made from hanging.

The penis is the one body part where manual angioplasty can be practiced, helping to clean out the vessels to allow for greater blood flow. Make sure you devote some time to doing this, not only on the outer penis, but also as far as possible within the body. It might really help. You might also try the horse squeezes."
Quoted from Bib


"Sensitivity

This will probably be another involved thread, but I think it is important. Probably my last one, but maybe it will help some guys.

It has always disturbed me when I hear about guys reporting numbness, or loss of sensitivity. Usually it is a breif bout. But it has happened to guys in the past, and then they tend to fade into the mist, never heard from again. Many times, I am sure it is due to bruised nerves or even worse. Back when guys were using a loop type device to hang with, it happened all the time. Simple over-training can be a culprit too, giving a symptom much like a chronic refractory response.

But I think there is a hidden reason for many guys that have experienced this. Recently, I worked with a member who had some chronic numbness. From his description, he felt he had damaged something while hanging, and had taken a good while off to allow for recovery. It did not recover much at all. Seldom has anyone complained of a lack of sensitivity while hanging, especially with a Bib, so I really worried about it.

So, we started communicating about what might be causing the problem. We looked at supplements to help heal damaged nerves, etc. But nothing seemed to cause a lasting increase in sensitivity. But all of our concentration was on the nerves. Big mistake.

So I started going over past PMs, looking for clues. He had also complained of a ‘buzzing’ feeling toward the head, and some wrinkling in the area. Also, he was able to get erections, but they were often weak and the head would not fill completely. Then it hit me.

I have reported this many times, but it might not be within these forums. One time, fairly early in my Penis Enlargement career, I was jelqing fairly lightly behind my balls. All of a sudden, I felt something race up my penis, obviously within the CS. It felt like lightening. Then, the same feeling raced down my penis, and into my body. It took a couple of seconds to realize that I had dislodged a piece of plaque within my blood vessel, and this former obstruction had made a trip through my plumbing. Without thinking too much, I expected to have a stroke in just a second. Heh heh.

Well, after re-reading the communications, the thought entered my head that this member’s problem might not be nerves at all. Or at least not directly. In much the same way your hand or foot can go to sleep when in a bind and with blood flow reduced, I realized that his penis was asleep.

When we perform almost any type of Penis Enlargement, the blood vessels of the penis are manipulated. Penis Enlargement is probably about the only time any blood vessels of the body can be so dramatically impacted. Just about everyone, except the very young has at least some plaque within the linings of the blood vessels. Usually, it is very tightly bound to the wall of the vessels. Unless of course, something occurs to dislodge this plaque.

Further, the penis is somewhat unique in the internal diameter of the vessels. The vessels feeding the penis are rather large, especially when erect, and then the return vessels narrow rapidly.

My theory was and is, if a piece of plaque of any significant size is dislodged, the odds of lodging somewhere to limit blood flow are high. Smaller pieces might pass on through without incident. Further, the vessels feeding and draining the CCs are probably not as important as the vessels feeding and draining the CS and head. While reduced blood flow in and from the CCs might cause some oxygen/nutrient deprivation to parts of the shaft, it would not be as bad as reduced blood flow and oxygen/nutrient loss to the nerves in the head of the penis.

So, thinking about it from a plumbing standpoint, the member needed to get the obstruction out. The first thing I recommended was to take a baby aspirin a day to thin the blood somewhat, and hopefully increase the ability to flow a little better. After a few days of aspirin, I recommended he start with light jelqing, moving onto heavier jelqing.

At some point, he was able to determine the blockage was in the CS, right where the head attaches. This is where the buzzing was. I thought the buzzing might be the obstruction fluttering within the blood stream. He also started manipulating that area in an attempt to break up the blockage. Then, he graduated to Ulis, engorging the shaft and head, then releasing the pressure and repeating many times.

Gradually at first, his sensitivity began to return, along with much better blood flow. I think the results were not dramatic because the nerves had been blood deprived for a long time and had to regenerate somewhat. While he had rested, he was actually starving the tissues. The only time the tissues were fully blood enriched is when he got an erection.

There are a variety of issues concerning this problem. First, being able to diagnose what has happened. Then, being able to take the plunge to do more Penis Enlargement, when it appears Penis Enlargement has caused the problem. Then, even if correctly diagnosed, being able to dislodge the blockage and get blood flowing again may not achieve very noticeable results right away. Probably the best thing would be a situation like I experienced where I could actually feel the obstruction as it traveled. But if the vessels are expanded, blood is thin, the blockage is broken up, it may occur slowly, a piece at a time.

I guess the best thing to do when a lack of sensitivity is noticed is write about it and thoroughly explore the symptoms before undertaking a cure. Did the lack of sensitivity occur quickly or over time? Is there an obvious lack of blood flow? Does the penis appear lighter in color? Is there any buzzing or other abnormal feelings associated with the numbness? You will not be able to simply assume any lack of sensitivity is associated with decreased blood flow. But I do not think you can assume it is a nerve issue either.

Bigger"
Quoted from Bib


@Bib

I wrote you an PM about this issue. Some time ago i wrote you an message where i tried to explain you some issues which happened to me when i was gaining.
This issues were very complicate to explain and i was not sure if you understood me.
Now i found some old postings from you, which i think may be explain the same issue i tried to explain you some month ago.
Please read my PM and look if it makes sense for you now.
 
Pandora could the lack of sensitivity becoming apparent be maybe to do with the nerve bundle below the glands are being damage with stretching/or hanging or at least then it gets injured so this could result in the nerves in the head dieing. So no or barely any sensitive feeling in the glands.
 
TheNextBIGThing said:
Pandora could the lack of sensitivity becoming apparent be maybe to do with the nerve bundle below the glands are being damage with stretching/or hanging or at least then it gets injured so this could result in the nerves in the head dieing. So no or barely any sensitive feeling in the glands.

I don't know I'm not a doctor:)
 
I really think you have to go the urologists/ specialist. I am permanently more or less damaged in the penis from Penis Enlargement. This is no joke, it is very easy to do. Believe it or not, I read about one man that slept on stomach, got an erection, and noticed the next morning that his suspensory ligament was damaged and from that he got ED. Meaning no, morning erections, slow to arouse, needs ED meds. He wrote this on an uroligist forum after two months, and he had no improvement. I am going to a "shrink" tomorrow, simply because I need to learn how to live with this ED mentally, and a urologist will tell me what to do and what to take. Keep in mind that pandora is a young man, lucky with his Penis Enlargement, but he has no medical background, and if you search this forum you will see that many posts about their erections problems, the advice they get, is usually light jelqs, I haven't seen one post about anyone writing back, saying that it helped, in fact they never wrote back. My erections are now so spongy, that I really freak out. Pandora: this is for you: you say that B.T.B jelqs has helped you and many others? Well, when you say that you had bad erections, can you define, BAD? And, where are the others benefiting from B.T.B jelqs?



TheNextBIGThing said:
Pandora could the lack of sensitivity becoming apparent be maybe to do with the nerve bundle below the glands are being damage with stretching/or hanging or at least then it gets injured so this could result in the nerves in the head dieing. So no or barely any sensitive feeling in the glands.
 
MrNilsen said:
I really think you have to go the urologists/ specialist. I am permanently more or less damaged in the penis from Penis Enlargement. This is no joke, it is very easy to do. Believe it or not, I read about one man that slept on stomach, got an erection, and noticed the next morning that his suspensory ligament was damaged and from that he got ED. Meaning no, morning erections, slow to arouse, needs ED meds. He wrote this on an uroligist forum after two months, and he had no improvement. I am going to a "shrink" tomorrow, simply because I need to learn how to live with this ED mentally, and a urologist will tell me what to do and what to take. Keep in mind that pandora is a young man, lucky with his Penis Enlargement, but he has no medical background, and if you search this forum you will see that many posts about their erections problems, the advice they get, is usually light jelqs, I haven't seen one post about anyone writing back, saying that it helped, in fact they never wrote back. My erections are now so spongy, that I really freak out. Pandora: this is for you: you say that B.T.B jelqs has helped you and many others? Well, when you say that you had bad erections, can you define, BAD? And, where are the others benefiting from B.T.B jelqs?

I never said I had bad erections, I said I had, about maybe a year and half ago not as strong erection as what I was use to.

All I can say to you is, if your penis does not get back to normal start doing Penis Enlargement and it will fix everything, yes maybe you will have to do if for the rest of your life but so what, it's worth it once you learn how to do things the right way, and learn about all the possible things that can be done.

Their is other Broads beside this one you know, try searching Thunders for more on B.T.B jelqing.
 
How can you be so sure? You have been here for a long while, have you got any feedbacks from other people saying that Penis Enlargement worked for them, after Penis Enlargement gave them bad erections? It's like treating fire with fire, get my point? As for me going to thunderss, not going to happen, since I am banned. If you know any stories like mine, and that somebody got better better with Penis Enlargement, then please share it with us. I want to learn. I am not saying that I doubt you, I just need more than "trust me". I have searched many forums, there are no sunshine stories....




Pandora said:
I never said I had bad erections, I said I had, about maybe a year and half ago not as strong erection as what I was use to.

All I can say to you is, if your penis does not get back to normal start doing Penis Enlargement and it will fix everything, yes maybe you will have to do if for the rest of your life but so what, it's worth it once you learn how to do things the right way, and learn about all the possible things that can be done.

Their is other Broads beside this one you know, try searching Thunders for more on B.T.B jelqing.
 
MrNilsen said:
I really think you have to go the urologists/ specialist. I am permanently more or less damaged in the penis from Penis Enlargement. This is no joke, it is very easy to do. Believe it or not, I read about one man that slept on stomach, got an erection, and noticed the next morning that his suspensory ligament was damaged and from that he got ED. Meaning no, morning erections, slow to arouse, needs ED meds. He wrote this on an uroligist forum after two months, and he had no improvement. I am going to a "shrink" tomorrow, simply because I need to learn how to live with this ED mentally, and a urologist will tell me what to do and what to take. Keep in mind that pandora is a young man, lucky with his Penis Enlargement, but he has no medical background, and if you search this forum you will see that many posts about their erections problems, the advice they get, is usually light jelqs, I haven't seen one post about anyone writing back, saying that it helped, in fact they never wrote back. My erections are now so spongy, that I really freak out. Pandora: this is for you: you say that B.T.B jelqs has helped you and many others? Well, when you say that you had bad erections, can you define, BAD? And, where are the others benefiting from B.T.B jelqs?

Yeah I just have a strong feeling that stretching the penis below the glands could cause sensitivity loss in the penis because when the stretches are done you have to pull under the glands which is where the nerve bundle is. Now I maybe wrong here but I assume if the nerve bundle is damaged so is the dick and it's sensitivity, resulting in numb glands etc.

I feel pretty stupid now because I do no think my erection issues is really serious, but I just wish it would not take a few days to get good erections after ejaculating and that the head would fill up fully. The rest I put it down to mental issues with my erections or/and exhaustion.

Provider, Orbital, hope and Tbirdy are the most notable people on these forums with bad E.D. but you are right unfortunately there has been no updates on their situation or any new posts. I take it things haven't improved for them. Doing more jelqing would surely make things worse? for those with E.D.

MrNilson I honestly hope things will improve for you and your situation I saw a shrink too when I was very young, depression mainly It did help a bit for me because I would bottle up my feels (actually I still do really). Talking to someone may help but does not do it for everyone.

Keep us update with things. All the best.:)
 
I'm not really that down, I just need some hints on how to think more positive and stear away from any thoughts that may cause depression. If I have to jelq for the rest of my life to get my hard erections back, then fuck it, I will do it, I just need some "proof". I haven't seen one guy on any forums, going two months without a descent erection, then starting to jelq and suddenly hard erections are back. Pandora: Again, if you have knowledge about this, then show us the feedbacks from these guys, you may help alot of people here...
 
the best way is to kegel, both reverse and normal. get that down and stop Penis Enlargement for a bit. just kegel and everything until you notice you can get hard again. then make sure to warm up once you start Penis Enlargement again, take your time, stay with baic jelquing. i have the same problem sometimes. if i Penis Enlargement then don't kegel afterwards or keep up with it, then i can't get a decent hard on. also i suggest taking some Vitamin E. it keeps the blood flow going throughout the body, and is suggested in sex books..like the kama sutra...to take on a daily basis because it keeps the blood flow going to the genitals and makes harder erections. so stop Penis Enlargementing for a bit, try the vitamins and kegel. see if it helps.
 
I have been resting for two months, almost no masturbation, and no morning woods. When Penis Enlargement got me into this mess, and Penis Enlargement can get me out of it. Then, yes I could try again, but, my erections are spongy, they have never been this weak before. My flaccid is way bigger and feels "dead". I didn't notice ED during my Penis Enlargement session. only after, so, if it's Penis Enlargement for life, then I will fuck everything out there if I get my erections back, since no-one has a real long term study of this, could make thing short term you know..
Pandora: Yes, I might bother you here, that's what mods are for, please give me any sites reffering to a similar experience like mine. If you concvince me to start up back again, and I get my erections back, I wold be forever greatfull.


samzman said:
the best way is to kegel, both reverse and normal. get that down and stop Penis Enlargement for a bit. just kegel and everything until you notice you can get hard again. then make sure to warm up once you start Penis Enlargement again, take your time, stay with baic jelquing. i have the same problem sometimes. if i Penis Enlargement then don't kegel afterwards or keep up with it, then i can't get a decent hard on. also i suggest taking some Vitamin E. it keeps the blood flow going throughout the body, and is suggested in sex books..like the kama sutra...to take on a daily basis because it keeps the blood flow going to the genitals and makes harder erections. so stop Penis Enlargementing for a bit, try the vitamins and kegel. see if it helps.
 
if you say that you have pain in the base of your penis, then the problem is likely to be nerve damage.

They rely heavily on Acetylcholine to work right.

Another indicator that you might be missing Acetylcholine is your erection angle being downward.

So maybe you should try getting some supplements with Choline. Which you can find in high quality multi-vitamin/mineral formulas or in mood or memory enhancing supplements.

To convert choline to acetylcholine faster, vitamin B5 as well as a bit of Vitamin C is needed.

Just remembered that I had this in a book somewhere. And hell, if I can help out, then it's definitely worth it :) Got other stuff in the book if this doesn't end up working.
 
I'm guessing nerve damage as well, my erection angle are fine, but the shaft doesn't fill up with blood so it feels spongy. I am taking x brand of supplements. I may or may not, recover from this, since this is a long term injury, and absolutely no amount of jelqs are going to help, be it behind the balls or whatever. I have seen B.T.B jelqs recommended to guys that suffer like me on this forum, do they write back? Nope, aint gonna happen. Me writing here is clearly to say to all newbies out there, that Penis Enlargement is extremely risky business, so if you are not ready for the mental torture, then don't do it. I have messed around with pe before, but only a much lighter routine than on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] recommended here. I didn't experince any grotwth, but my staying power increased. Now that I am injured, I have been searching the web, and believe me, there are many that is/ was in the same boat as me. Even if the risks are lower than 1%, think about it, would you risk it?
 
Thought I would chip in after reading this very interesting thread. I jelqued 2 years ago now and it led to ED and numbness. My dick has recovered in stages and I now get reasonable wood and can orgasm alright. The head of my penis does not get properly hard as it used to and the upper part of my penis is quite numb. My orgasms are also much weaker than they were before.

I am certain this is down to jelquing but i did over-do it a little. A couple of months ago the sensetivity came back to my penis and it was near-normal again and i was overjoyed, but now it has deteriorated again and is quite numb/ shit orgasms. WHY? It does give me hope that it seemed to recover so is maybe fixable?

I am trying taking viagra every evening to see if this can cure my ED and will report on results as I go along. Can anyone suggest anything for increasing my penis sensetivity/strength of orgasms though, apart from jelqs? What are B.T.B jelqs - what's the difference?

I would like to stay in touch with you guys to swap experiences.

Ed
 
edwardo said:
Thought I would chip in after reading this very interesting thread. I jelqued 2 years ago now and it led to ED and numbness. My dick has recovered in stages and I now get reasonable wood and can orgasm alright. The head of my penis does not get properly hard as it used to and the upper part of my penis is quite numb. My orgasms are also much weaker than they were before.

I am certain this is down to jelquing but i did over-do it a little. A couple of months ago the sensetivity came back to my penis and it was near-normal again and i was overjoyed, but now it has deteriorated again and is quite numb/ shit orgasms. WHY? It does give me hope that it seemed to recover so is maybe fixable?

I am trying taking viagra every evening to see if this can cure my ED and will report on results as I go along. Can anyone suggest anything for increasing my penis sensetivity/strength of orgasms though, apart from jelqs? What are B.T.B jelqs - what's the difference?

I would like to stay in touch with you guys to swap experiences.

Ed
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forumnew/newbie-forum/25521-loss-blood-when-gettin-bsuy.html
 
Pandora, you got to understand. We have damage somewehere, in our dicks.
There is no cure or jelq that is going to fix this, only time and healing, and maybe, just maybe, our dicks wil function somewhat better. Think logic here, OK??
 
MrNilsen said:
Pandora, you got to understand. We have damage somewehere, in our dicks.
There is no cure or jelq that is going to fix this, only time and healing, and maybe, just maybe, our dicks wil function somewhat better. Think logic here, OK??

The guy asked how to do B.T.B jeqling, in that link is an illustration.
 
So, now he knows how jelq behind the balls. I have seen you recommend B.T.B alot of times on this forum to som poor guy with a damaged dick.
Do they write back telling you that it worked??? No, they didn't. It's not the soultion..


Pandora said:
The guy asked how to do B.T.B jeqling, in that link is an illustration.
 
I will contact you tomorrow. Tonight, drinks.. cheers



edwardo said:
Thought I would chip in after reading this very interesting thread. I jelqued 2 years ago now and it led to ED and numbness. My dick has recovered in stages and I now get reasonable wood and can orgasm alright. The head of my penis does not get properly hard as it used to and the upper part of my penis is quite numb. My orgasms are also much weaker than they were before.

I am certain this is down to jelquing but i did over-do it a little. A couple of months ago the sensetivity came back to my penis and it was near-normal again and i was overjoyed, but now it has deteriorated again and is quite numb/ shit orgasms. WHY? It does give me hope that it seemed to recover so is maybe fixable?

I am trying taking viagra every evening to see if this can cure my ED and will report on results as I go along. Can anyone suggest anything for increasing my penis sensetivity/strength of orgasms though, apart from jelqs? What are B.T.B jelqs - what's the difference?

I would like to stay in touch with you guys to swap experiences.

Ed
 
Yeah you have damaged your dick probably, but whining about it instead of doing Penis Enlargement to improve it, is stupid.

I suggest you get yourself to the point of about 60-70% erection and kegel from there towards erection+using your hands(slightly massage the bottom of the glans - it's where most of the nerves are) do this WITHOUT adult entertainment! and I mean it else this is of no use, you wanna gain control of it so even if you're with a girl and a little bit stressed about not performing too good, think about the occasions you managed to pull a 100% erection without her even being near, build your own self esteem, and Penis Enlargement is the best tool for that.

I'll tell you this, I've never had bad erections in my life but sometimes mines do get a little spongy.. it depends on your diet too like some here said, so stop being a couch potato and workout, get multivitamins and sort this "ED" out.
 
Yes, I whine sometimes, but the point is, where are the guys that has improved their erections with B.T.B jelqs after a Penis Enlargement damage, just wanted to know. As me being a couch potato, sorry, I'm not a couch potato. I just use this forum for PM to keep in touch with other people, that has the same injury as me. I just don't see your logic with Penis Enlargement.


WBB said:
Yeah you have damaged your dick probably, but whining about it instead of doing Penis Enlargement to improve it, is stupid.

I suggest you get yourself to the point of about 60-70% erection and kegel from there towards erection+using your hands(slightly massage the bottom of the glans - it's where most of the nerves are) do this WITHOUT adult entertainment! and I mean it else this is of no use, you wanna gain control of it so even if you're with a girl and a little bit stressed about not performing too good, think about the occasions you managed to pull a 100% erection without her even being near, build your own self esteem, and Penis Enlargement is the best tool for that.

I'll tell you this, I've never had bad erections in my life but sometimes mines do get a little spongy.. it depends on your diet too like some here said, so stop being a couch potato and workout, get multivitamins and sort this "ED" out.
 
I'm sorry to hear about your ED problem (if you really have one) but you seem more focused on spreading fear. I read your entire thread over at Thunders before you were banned and there you said you felt a slight pain early in your posts then it changed to never any pain. Then someone questioned that and it went back to only a slight pain. Now here, your saying you had a sharp pains. All you do is preach on how unsafe Penis Enlargement is, then when someone has helpful suggestions you deny they will work and change your story when you need to prove a point. Everyone knows Penis Enlargement can be unsafe if not performed properly so there's no need to post anymore about that. Searching for answers is fine, if you have indeed have a problem, but you can leave any future "Your taking a risk" crap out of your posts. We get it already, Thanks.
 
MrNilsen said:
So, now he knows how jelq behind the balls. I have seen you recommend B.T.B alot of times on this forum to som poor guy with a damaged dick.
Do they write back telling you that it worked??? No, they didn't. It's not the soultion..

It will not fix a rupture or anything like that, but it will make erection stronger, and make them last longer.
 
I have explained myself at thunders about my story. My last post with nickname "sibbe" said it all. What's your point? Ah, fuck, don't even answer.



Watchdog said:
I'm sorry to hear about your ED problem (if you really have one) but you seem more focused on spreading fear. I read your entire thread over at Thunders before you were banned and there you said you felt a slight pain early in your posts then it changed to never any pain. Then someone questioned that and it went back to only a slight pain. Now here, your saying you had a sharp pains. All you do is preach on how unsafe Penis Enlargement is, then when someone has helpful suggestions you deny they will work and change your story when you need to prove a point. Everyone knows Penis Enlargement can be unsafe if not performed properly so there's no need to post anymore about that. Searching for answers is fine, if you have indeed have a problem, but you can leave any future "Your taking a risk" crap out of your posts. We get it already, Thanks.
 
Oops sorry, I missed that last post there where you changed your username and YOUR STORY and once again spread some fear. That's my point.
 
Watchdog it seems a bit harsh MrNilson seems to be one of many that have some form of E.D. after doing P.E. I am sure he is just very worried about this and understandably so. I have said in some posts I think I may have some light E.D., myself my penis head does not fill up fully like it ones did (I have no idea if this is some kind of small venous leak though because I thought a venous leak meant the penis can not stay erect barely for any amount of time for example it could get 10 secs hard then it goes flacid).

Would doing hot wraps daily help a bit? because they are supposed to encourage blood flow.
 
It is harsh. People come here looking for help and answers. Some people prey on the fears of those people and that's what I think is happening. If someone suggests trying a hot wrap (I think that would be a good thing to try by the way) I wouldn't say prove to me who that has worked for, or I know it won't work because I know I have permanent damage for life. He just wants to scare others and clutter up the forum for people that really need help.
 
Hey, sorry for slow response.

The only "solution" I know about so far, is the viagra/ cialis treatment combined with pentoxyfiline and/or l-arginine.

I talked to my urologist today, and he said it was nothing wrong with this treatment as long as you check your blood presssure once a week.

I am seeing another uroligist next week, and if he also thinks that this might be the solution for my missery, I will go for the viagra treatment. But, I will do mine for 9 months.




edwardo said:
Thought I would chip in after reading this very interesting thread. I jelqued 2 years ago now and it led to ED and numbness. My dick has recovered in stages and I now get reasonable wood and can orgasm alright. The head of my penis does not get properly hard as it used to and the upper part of my penis is quite numb. My orgasms are also much weaker than they were before.

I am certain this is down to jelquing but i did over-do it a little. A couple of months ago the sensetivity came back to my penis and it was near-normal again and i was overjoyed, but now it has deteriorated again and is quite numb/ shit orgasms. WHY? It does give me hope that it seemed to recover so is maybe fixable?

I am trying taking viagra every evening to see if this can cure my ED and will report on results as I go along. Can anyone suggest anything for increasing my penis sensetivity/strength of orgasms though, apart from jelqs? What are B.T.B jelqs - what's the difference?

I would like to stay in touch with you guys to swap experiences.

Ed
 
Hi MrNilson you have stated in previous posts that your erections are spongy which is something Orbital (a member here although I think he is no longer active on the forums) had mentioned it has. Now is it that your erections are spongy at 100% erect or is it that your erections stay more spongy for longer when your penis is in the process of being aroused. Let me explain this better before I lost some of penis strength and rigidness (not to do with P.E.) my penis would feel tight and hard the moment I started to get an erection, so I would be hard when my erection was at 50% (or around that). Now I find it feels spongy for longer when I get aroused and it is around 80 - 90% until my penis starts to get hard and erect, when I am at 100% though it feels like it should do and is not spongy, it feels hard and will really start to feel rock hard with some stimulation.

I am not trying to patronize you here but are you sure you need Viagra? I have not used it does it improve the quality of erections or does it just guarantee an erection with no fail?

I think some guys have problems with getting an erection just simply by thinking too much about not being able to get one. It sounds stupid and obvious but I find If I think I have E.D.constantly when trying to get erect nothing happens down there nothing and worrying about this even further has seen me having problems getting a good erection for a week. When I actually really try and relax though and block out the E.D. thoughts it gets hard, not super rock hard (It usually takes a few stokes to get it like that) but sod it the dick usually (most of the time) is more than good enough to fuck with either way I think thinking about E.D. messes with my head seriously and stops me from getting it up for a short time.

Keep us update.
 
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Im not sure that sort of agressive response was very helpful watchdog - surely MrNilsen is just a bit peeved off and sharing his worries? I for one severely regret ever jelqing as it has damadged me to and i think the dangers of this should be repeated so as many newbies are aware of them as possible. He and the rest of us should also be able to talk about our worries as much as we want on these forums. I for one find it a great relief finding others in my situation and helpful to talk about these things.

Viagra does give me very good errections, though i am gettting okay ones without it, just a very spongy head. It feels as if the nerve endings at the tip of my penis have been damaged however and this is my biggest worry - do wither of you have any advice for this? I am not really sure of the logic of jelqing more to try and fix this prob? My orgasms are suffering and this is driving me slightly mad! Any ideas much appreciated - Dr. Lin's page seems to have quite a few people with this prob and he seems to prescribe some cream but im not convinced...
 
edwardo said:
Im not sure that sort of agressive response was very helpful watchdog - surely MrNilsen is just a bit peeved off and sharing his worries? I for one severely regret ever jelqing as it has damadged me to and i think the dangers of this should be repeated so as many newbies are aware of them as possible. He and the rest of us should also be able to talk about our worries as much as we want on these forums. I for one find it a great relief finding others in my situation and helpful to talk about these things.

Viagra does give me very good errections, though i am gettting okay ones without it, just a very spongy head. It feels as if the nerve endings at the tip of my penis have been damaged however and this is my biggest worry - do wither of you have any advice for this? I am not really sure of the logic of jelqing more to try and fix this prob? My orgasms are suffering and this is driving me slightly mad! Any ideas much appreciated - Dr. Lin's page seems to have quite a few people with this prob and he seems to prescribe some cream but im not convinced...

I am sorry for your situation on this are your orgasms better now at all? I think if orgasms feel weaker that could be nerve damage I may be wrong there.

I wish I could help and I caused slight injury to my penis at the age of 17 (not P.E. related) so I can relate to you guys to some extent.

In my honest opinion do not start P.E. again I see no way in how jelqing will help with things. The truth is that if there is a venous leak in penis NO P.E. is going to fix it at least I highly doubt it. I mean If you really think about it sure jelqing may increase the blow flow but if there is a venous leak it will make no difference because the blood will still flow out of the penis quickly because of the venous leak. The only way to solve bad venous leaks (I am talking here that only an erection can be kept by kegaling or the erection only last 20 seconds or something) then surgery is possible but the success rate is low so it is a big risk. If the leak is really bad implants can be used but who the hell would want an erection like that?
 
MrNilsen said:
Yes, I whine sometimes, but the point is, where are the guys that has improved their erections with B.T.B jelqs after a Penis Enlargement damage, just wanted to know. As me being a couch potato, sorry, I'm not a couch potato. I just use this forum for PM to keep in touch with other people, that has the same injury as me. I just don't see your logic with Penis Enlargement.

This thread should be locked. Obviously this discussion no longer has any tangible relation to Penis Enlargement whatsoever. It appears to me to be a congregating place for hypochondriacs and neurotics.
 
jqsderrida said:
This thread should be locked. Obviously this discussion no longer has any tangible relation to Penis Enlargement whatsoever. It appears to me to be a congregating place for hypochondriacs and neurotics.

I agree you are right the thread is probably useless now. Well I have been thinking of leaving the forums mainly due to the fact I feel no possible damage to my penis is worth it for even an inch in gains. So therefore I will not be doing P.E. anymore.

I hope everyone reaches their goals and good luck.

My last post

See ya.
 
Every time I see this post about P.E, giving you ED. it makes me want to eat
your hart out of your body wile your still alive on a respirator. this is bull Penis Enlargement helps fight ED i know old dudes that still get it up due to pe. why do we spend so much time trashing fake pics. when we have jerks that trash Penis Enlargement period.>:(
 
joey_styles said:
Every time I see this post about P.E, giving you ED. it makes me want to eat
your hart out of your body wile your still alive on a respirator. this is bull Penis Enlargement helps fight ED i know old dudes that still get it up due to pe. why do we spend so much time trashing fake pics. when we have jerks that trash Penis Enlargement period.>:(
This isn't bull. You can cause some nerve damage if you jelq all the way to the head and put too much pressure on the nerve bundle on top, same with going too hard too fast and hanging for hours as a beginner.
 
joey_styles said:
Every time I see this post about P.E, giving you ED. it makes me want to eat
your hart out of your body wile your still alive on a respirator. this is bull Penis Enlargement helps fight ED i know old dudes that still get it up due to pe. why do we spend so much time trashing fake pics. when we have jerks that trash Penis Enlargement period.>:(

Here's an "old" dude who recaptured his rock hard woodies through P.E. I know there are many others out there. I've read their posts over the past (almost) four years. They just aren't as motivated to share their success as some of the younger members are. Some can't handle viagra, and desperate, turn to P.E. P.E. is a hell of a lot better for you than Viagra--if you approach it carefully.

I read and studied material (about 150 pages) from a dozen P.E. sites before I started P.E. on my own without joining a site.

Of course, common sense dictates that if we feel any "shooting pain" or unusual pain, not stiffness or soreness, we stop what we're doing. I agree that that bundle of nerves below the glans, (in my case around the circumcision scar), should be avoided at all costs.

Some of these exercises are "extreme," and it just takes common sense to avoid them until you have a lot more P.E. experience under your belt.

And you really have to listen to your body, (and your penis, of course). Some men (especially the younger ones) are not in touch with their bodies--that's part of the problem.

There is so much to learn here. I guess if your sole motivation in joining [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is to get a bigger dick and you go crazy from the start and hurt yourself, you should leave. But if you approach P.E. with common sense and care, in my opinion, you can only benefit from it, and become a better man.
 
I felt a sharp pain wile stretching, that was it for me. This was over 2 months ago, and a not so functional dick ever since. The CS chamber doesn't fill up with blood like it used to, no morning erections or spontanious either. I also have a dull ache every day. These are just facts, it's not mental, I wish it was. I don't bash Penis Enlargement, I'm just sharing my story, and I've even paid for membership so I think I have the rights to be on this forum.
I have seen what I have written in my earlier posts, and yes, I understand that they offend you guys, but, the point is, I haven't been myself lately because of this injury. So what happens is that you don't think so much before you write, so I am sorry for that.

I know Penis Enlargement gives you good and hard long lasting erections, I got them myself, that was the reason I got hooked on Penis Enlargement ever since I dabbled with it last year.
That was the reson I started up again this sping.
When I get posts telling me to Penis Enlargement when I say that I have a dull ache and a soft penis, then clearly I have an injury, and I'm told to jelq again???
That doesn't make sence to me. So I just wanted to know if anyone has had the same experince as me, started Penis Enlargement again and got better. I haven't seen any of those guys yet on this forum. It's just a valid question.
Some guys probably can relate to what I write, and some clearly don't. Probably because those who injured themselves badly has left the foum.
 
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