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Hey, everybody. Let me introduce myself. I'm 24 years old, and somewhat "blessed" when it comes to looks and physique. I know about many girls that really adore the way I look how my body is, even though I don't train with weigths and don't even eat that healthy. Being somewhat afraid to show girls how my penis looks like flaccid (even though it's average erect), has made me stear away from relationship and just do one night stands instead. I was thinking: If I could just make my penis bigger flaccid and of course bigger when erect (as a bonus). then all my "problems" would dissapear. I made my fatal deccission (sp?) about 7 weeks ago, with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] 7 weeks ago, doing only one week, the the ED hit me. Now my penis is bigger while flaccid, but feels hard and sometimes spongy. My erections are spongy and droopy as well. I really wish I could just be man enough that when it comes to ladies, I would just show them how small it was flaccid, and just laugh about it, because I knew it would be allright erect and they would know too. Instead I was obsessed with this bullshit that a penis that looked bigger flaccid would make my "problems" dissapear. Now, I'm total changed guy. I used to be so uptight about it, never letting guys or girls see my little flaccid, what the fuck???? As long as you know it's big enough when it's action time, then who cares what other may think. I really miss my little, but full functional penis. I wish I could have had the same way of thinking before it became to late. Now, any people out there with the same experience, please write back about how things will be in the future. What are you doing? Pumping, taking shitloads of viagra? I have tried viagra, my erections becomes better, but still spongy, will this ED get worse over time? Oh, by the way, I have been to the urologist, and he looked at my flaccid and said it looked fine, and gave some viagra, but clearly somthing is wrong, so I'm going back for more check ups. Got dam, life could be much better if we just used our time to focus on something else than dicks, and most people have an average dick anyways. Adios, for now
 
I can only think of two things I don't know your routine but you might have tugged too hard too long too soon, and the other possibility is that this is physiological as a lot of ED is at a young age. There are loads of exceptions of course so I can't give you any definitive answer.
 
well man.i can say tha Penis Enlargement gave me better erctions.it isn't cuch an easy thing to destroy your penis in one week....don't worry...there is nothing wrong about you man.you probably have overdone it with exercises and reached a point of fatigue.i know that i little light jelqing at 40% erection with some kegels for 10 minutes every night will give you back your wodies in a month for sure...try it you have nothing to loose.i think it is mental.i had this issue for a week or so and i couldn't get erect while masturbating but everything is normal now and even betteer.we all get some mental states that we think Penis Enlargement affected as negatively.as long as you don't do something extreme (double clamping for 1 hour with kegels and stretching erected and etc,...) there is no way you didi permanent damage or any damage with teh simple [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]///no way
 
It's not that easy. I have a dull ache in the shaft pretty much everyday. Erections are hard to get, they feel floppy, and when flaccid it hangs more limp. Maybe I have some kind peyronies. I will check with the urologist
 
How long ago did you stop Penis Enlargement? My guess is that you overdid it. Eat healthy and rest until you're better. When you restart Penis Enlargement you need to do a light routine and make sure you are doing the exercises absolutely correctly.
 
MrNilsen said:
Hey, everybody. Let me introduce myself. I'm 24 years old, and somewhat "blessed" when it comes to looks and physique. I know about many girls that really adore the way I look how my body is, even though I don't train with weigths and don't even eat that healthy. Being somewhat afraid to show girls how my penis looks like flaccid (even though it's average erect), has made me stear away from relationship and just do one night stands instead. I was thinking: If I could just make my penis bigger flaccid and of course bigger when erect (as a bonus). then all my "problems" would dissapear. I made my fatal deccission (sp?) about 7 weeks ago, with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] 7 weeks ago, doing only one week, the the ED hit me. Now my penis is bigger while flaccid, but feels hard and sometimes spongy. My erections are spongy and droopy as well. I really wish I could just be man enough that when it comes to ladies, I would just show them how small it was flaccid, and just laugh about it, because I knew it would be allright erect and they would know too. Instead I was obsessed with this bullshit that a penis that looked bigger flaccid would make my "problems" dissapear. Now, I'm total changed guy. I used to be so uptight about it, never letting guys or girls see my little flaccid, what the fuck???? As long as you know it's big enough when it's action time, then who cares what other may think. I really miss my little, but full functional penis. I wish I could have had the same way of thinking before it became to late. Now, any people out there with the same experience, please write back about how things will be in the future. What are you doing? Pumping, taking shitloads of viagra? I have tried viagra, my erections becomes better, but still spongy, will this ED get worse over time? Oh, by the way, I have been to the urologist, and he looked at my flaccid and said it looked fine, and gave some viagra, but clearly somthing is wrong, so I'm going back for more check ups. Got dam, life could be much better if we just used our time to focus on something else than dicks, and most people have an average dick anyways. Adios, for now

Damn I think I have maybe been kidding myself for a long time, I think I have mild case of E.D. as well shit. I done P.E. but only a few times, I quit doing them years ago. Now I can't say P.E. done this for sure but when I get an erection the penis head doesn't fill up 100% and get hard like I am very sure used to. Also this really pisses me off I often find I can get a normal hard erection that usually lasts as long as I want it to, but when I cum even hours later when I get another erection again it is WEAK as hell and takes more than usually to get it up bollocks. However after a day my erection quality comes back hard and normal. The weird thing is that when I don't ejaculate for days I can keep getting rock hard erections over and over during the day, but when I cum my erections are usually poor for the WHOLE day until the next day. This is annoying.

I have thought of going to my local doctor but with some thought I really doubt they will do anything. I don't know how to sought this I won't be doing P.E. that is for sure, infact from reading others with bad E.D. some of them continue Peing and finding it makes there erections worse and that their penis will only fill up over half way yikes.

MrNilsen I am only a few years younger than you (I am 22) and would like to know if things improve.

Cheers.:)
 
i have the same problem with women, im to frightened to go out with the lads as i dont want to meet a lass until my dicks a bit bigger, i dont mind one night stands with lasses i dont know. but if i go out i will end up sleeping with one of the lasses out of the group and her telling everyone im average and shit. on the ed i would give it a week or so let it heal then try some pc muscle workout that helps my erections.
 
It has been 7 weeks already. I doubt it's going to be better. I can get descent erections with viagra, meaning good enough for penetration. My last Penis Enlargement session I recall that the dick was becomming very erect while stretching and that hurt, maybe that was the reason, anyways, too late now. I have been reading the post from tbirdy, he has a lot of information and maybe I will try his "route", but first I will check with the urologist that I don't have any plaque or scar tissue in penis. I don't know if they can find out. If it's a venous leak, then tbirdy mentioned in one of his post about some class act surgeons in austria that could fix this for 4-5000k. I have been reading a lot of other peoples experiences about ED from Penis Enlargement, and it doesn't seem like I one day will "recover" by my own. 7 weeks is long enough, now it's time to act and do something about it. So, tomorrow, back to the doctor and a new appointment to the urologist (last one just gave me viagra), and start reading and working to get my mind straight. I have been living in denial for 7weeks, and had a huge breakdown this week, so fuck it, it's time to face the facts and do something about it. I can live with viagra and pumps and maybe try one of those tens machines at night to strenghten the dick and erection. I am officially of Penis Enlargement, no more tugging and jelqing, tough luck for me.
 
Oh, by the way, this whole small "embarresing" flaccid dick thing that made me look into Penis Enlargement in the first place, all I can say: what a fucking waste of time to get hung up in this kind of stuff when you know that it is descent size when erect. I had so many girls calling me back after sex to be with me and have sex again, if I just had the confidence and could be a little more easy going, even laugh if a girl would say that I looked small flaccid. So fucking what, I stil have my health, look good and have an education, job etc. Not everybody is that lucky in life. Could be worse, and now I am totally changed in the way I look at life. Before this, it was all: Must have a big dick to achieve happiness and success. Now, I know, it's all in your head, time to start laugh at stuff that you feel insecure about. You only have one life and one dick.
 
NPenis EnlargementL 5.75"
EG 5.00"

Flaccid: Used to turtle up a alot. I'm a big dude, and that made me so hung up about it, now it hangs lower and that can't be a good sign. I could wait longer and hope it will be allright, but I seriously I doubt it. Look, I think some people get away with injuries easy, and some clearly don't. I have been looking at some injuries at this forum and I have pretty much the same thing, those with the injuries are not better even years after it happened. I just hope it's a small venous leak, I think pumping and viagra can take care of that. surgery is also an option, thinking about the expensive one in austria, but there is long way until that is happening, I have to take more test, and pray that I don't have any scar tissue ine there. So, no school for this semester, and just work my ass off, take more test, pray to god, and no sex/ masturbation, girls etc. Sounds crazy, but, that is the only thing I can do, so I won't loose my mind. Adios for now
 
Have you seen this link?

Impotence drug could offer long-term help

Might check it out, I woulndn't do any Penis Enlargement if I were you, If you might have any damage, then don't fuck it up any more. There are alot of people getting impotent from Penis Enlargement, if you search for urology forums you will see that people write and complain about their dicks, so it's real, even though some people don't believe in it.




TheNextBIGThing said:
Damn I think I have maybe been kidding myself for a long time, I think I have mild case of E.D. as well shit. I done P.E. but only a few times, I quit doing them years ago. Now I can't say P.E. done this for sure but when I get an erection the penis head doesn't fill up 100% and get hard like I am very sure used to. Also this really pisses me off I often find I can get a normal hard erection that usually lasts as long as I want it to, but when I cum even hours later when I get another erection again it is WEAK as hell and takes more than usually to get it up bollocks. However after a day my erection quality comes back hard and normal. The weird thing is that when I don't ejaculate for days I can keep getting rock hard erections over and over during the day, but when I cum my erections are usually poor for the WHOLE day until the next day. This is annoying.

I have thought of going to my local doctor but with some thought I really doubt they will do anything. I don't know how to sought this I won't be doing P.E. that is for sure, infact from reading others with bad E.D. some of them continue Peing and finding it makes there erections worse and that their penis will only fill up over half way yikes.

MrNilsen I am only a few years younger than you (I am 22) and would like to know if things improve.

Cheers.:)
 
MrNilson what forum have you found this guys with E.D. due to P.E.? I have counted quite a few here on these forums with problems many haven't posted in years so no-one knows what has happened since then but unfortunately I doubt it has improved. On the Mens Network Forum I found quite a few guys again with E.D.

The thing is though is that when I don't cum in days my erections are at full strength pretty rock hard you know but for some reason when I ejaculate it can take a couple of days for my erections rock hard feel to return, but sometimes it can only take a day WTF? This I really am confused about.

Now I have done some reading on E.D. for physical problems. There is a way to test this so sure. Doctors ask men with E.D. to do this as a test they use what is called a "stamp test" which is basically the guy will make a ring around his flacid penis with a book of stamps (not ones with glue on lol) before going to sleep now if the ring doesn't break in within a least 3 days or so apparently this could me a blood flow issue. I think getting erections in your sleep if possible and that maybe not always wake up erect but I am unsure. I kind of lost my morning erections at some point sure I get them but maybe only 2 times a month. I woke up with one today quite rigid and the head was filled up good (I often find when I wake up with wood the head is a bit soft while my shaft is hard).

Although I understand your situation and can identify with it I would only truly panic if you can only get an erection for 10 or 20 seconds and it instantly subsides (actually anything under a minute is probably a serious veinous leak) even worse if you can only get just over half an erection (say 70% - 80%) even with a lot of stimulation or your orgasm feel extremely weak then I would be scared.

My glands not filling up fully I think could be a small veinous leak but although that bothers me somewhat the shaft gets rock hard and the whole shaft so no serious damage has been done I think.

I used to think the same as you as I am sure many young guys like us do when I was 14 I was so insecure about my penis and when I was 18 I came across these P.E. exercises. I am very average too I am around 5 or 5.5 erect and 5 erect girth (maybe just over) I have come to accept my size now and to be honest not even a slight increase in my penis is worth killing my erections and sensitivity for they are not worth loosing.
 
search for "urology stretch jelq" in one sentence in google.
I have damaged my penis, it's been like this for 2 months, and I'm sure it's permanent. Maybe I can operate something, more of that later. I feel so sick right now, and it's just unreal. The more I realise it's never going to get better the more I freak out. I don't know anyone that has been fully recovered from this kind of injury
 
Hey guys, its refreshing to see others who have come to this same conclusion about penis size and how we think about it. I'm sorry that this has happened to you however, I honestly believe that both of you will recover. Don't let the uncertainty get to you and shake your will. Hang in there and keep thinking positively and things will be good.

Yeah it's true that many guys get ED, among other injuries, from Penis Enlargement. Even those who have seen positive results may in fact see negative ones down the road. However, I don't think this means Penis Enlargement, just like other exercise, cannot be done in a mutually positive way. Penis Enlargement is dangerous because its fairly new and there is no real consensus on what works. Moreover, its lack of acceptance by the medical community has left the internet as pretty much the source of information. So things are really all over the place right now. One guy who I think has a half-sane view of Penis Enlargement is Dr.Lin (Phd not MD). Personally, there is something about him that makes me feel uneasy, but his theories seem to be pretty solid. He says that Penis Enlargement must start with a healthy sexual system and once begun the Penis Enlargementer must supplement to facilitate to safe enlargement (though he also claims you can only get this by buying his products. I've bought the same substances online and from the pharmacy and the prices were similar though the ratios were most likely incorrect.) This is how I look at it, if you wanna build muscle you need excess protein. If you wanna build penis tissue, you need excess DHT, EFAs and NO. When your under 20 your hormone levels are high enough where supplementing is unnecessary. It is no coincidence that in Arab cultures that jelqing is only done for growth during puberty. Once these cycles slow down, you must recreate them if you want to grow like you did in puberty.

If you don't have
  • Acetycholine
  • Serotonin (5-HT)<(5-HTP)
  • Dopamine
  • Oxygen
  • DHT
  • Nitric Oxide
  • cGMP
  • amino acids
  • Essential Fatty Acids
  • powerful cardiovascular system
  • healthy pituitary, testicular and adrenal glands
  • healthy liver
you are risking something and ignoring the bigger picture of Penis Enlargement which is overall sexual enhancement.

I don't mean to shove this you guys' face, I'm just trying to make a valid argument for anyone still concerned with Penis Enlargement. My point is, your injury is likely because you have a server lack of something on that list or you have stressed one of those systems. Perhaps the liver or pituitary system. Anyway try to figure out what it is and restore your levels and take it easy. Once you do, you should see improvement in a few days (depending on your injury). Dr.Lins site is Sexual Orgasm Research Center - the Lin Institute. I hope that helps.

Good luck guys
 
Yeah, I wrote to dr.lin even though I don't really believe his methods. All I see on his site are bunch of cases and a few report backs about success stories. I even wanted to know what kind of stuff I shoud buy because I feel so desperate, and he just said that I couldn't send to my country because he had to many deliveries there and that could make costum troubles. WTF?
So, I gave up on that. So I asked him about what to without his "magic" creams, and he said to take fish oil and rest for 6 months. Well duh, I am going to rest, and I have taken fish oil all my life. Do you have any experience with his products since you speak so highly about them? I am not being rude to you here, I just want to know. Thanks for support though
 
Drjeckle said:
Hey guys, its refreshing to see others who have come to this same conclusion about penis size and how we think about it. I'm sorry that this has happened to you however, I honestly believe that both of you will recover. Don't let the uncertainty get to you and shake your will. Hang in there and keep thinking positively and things will be good.

Yeah it's true that many guys get ED, among other injuries, from Penis Enlargement. Even those who have seen positive results may in fact see negative ones down the road. However, I don't think this means Penis Enlargement, just like other exercise, cannot be done in a mutually positive way. Penis Enlargement is dangerous because its fairly new and there is no real consensus on what works. Moreover, its lack of acceptance by the medical community has left the internet as pretty much the source of information. So things are really all over the place right now. One guy who I think has a half-sane view of Penis Enlargement is Dr.Lin (Phd not MD). Personally, there is something about him that makes me feel uneasy, but his theories seem to be pretty solid. He says that Penis Enlargement must start with a healthy sexual system and once begun the Penis Enlargementer must supplement to facilitate to safe enlargement (though he also claims you can only get this by buying his products. I've bought the same substances online and from the pharmacy and the prices were similar though the ratios were most likely incorrect.) This is how I look at it, if you wanna build muscle you need excess protein. If you wanna build penis tissue, you need excess DHT, EFAs and NO. When your under 20 your hormone levels are high enough where supplementing is unnecessary. It is no coincidence that in Arab cultures that jelqing is only done for growth during puberty. Once these cycles slow down, you must recreate them if you want to grow like you did in puberty.

If you don't have
  • Acetycholine
  • Serotonin (5-HT)<(5-HTP)
  • Dopamine
  • Oxygen
  • DHT
  • Nitric Oxide
  • cGMP
  • amino acids
  • Essential Fatty Acids
  • powerful cardiovascular system
  • healthy pituitary, testicular and adrenal glands
  • healthy liver
you are risking something and ignoring the bigger picture of Penis Enlargement which is overall sexual enhancement.

I don't mean to shove this you guys' face, I'm just trying to make a valid argument for anyone still concerned with Penis Enlargement. My point is, your injury is likely because you have a server lack of something on that list or you have stressed one of those systems. Perhaps the liver or pituitary system. Anyway try to figure out what it is and restore your levels and take it easy. Once you do, you should see improvement in a few days (depending on your injury). Dr.Lins site is Sexual Orgasm Research Center - the Lin Institute. I hope that helps.

Good luck guys

It is good to have some more feedback well I think my occasional E.D. is not as bad as many I have read about my penis can achieve 100% full capacity and all the shaft gets hard but the head does not usually however and I can stay hard for a normal time (a recent morning erection took 20 minutes to go down). By the way just to say P.E. very unlikely done any real damage to my penis I have these slight erection problems for 5 or 6 years.

I guess I may have some psychological issues that mess with my erection too maybe I know at sometime I lost my powerful throbbing dick, hard erect glands, and I usually could get the same great erection after ejaculating in the same day but now shit I don't know it usually takes a day or so to get my rock hard dick back but sometimes I can get just as good erection after I have ejaculated in the same day damn this all messes with my head and has for years. I have thought at times a lot of it could be to do with bad diet, too much masturbating which exhaust my dick and could explain the need to rest a day to get rock hard again (I am no longer 15 I guess) I do experience feelings of depression and often did through most of my youth and childhood.

I should thank myself lucky I do not need Viagra or have dick implants (that is depressing) I still get hard over adult entertainment, by thought and stimulation but I still feel I have E.D. even if it is just mild. Indeed some post I have read on E.D. are scary apparently if a guy damages his spongy tissue that can cause permanent erection damage and will result in having to have an implant for sex. Tbirdy is like an expert on this and I am very impressed with his knowledge on E.D. (I hope things will work out for him) he believes jelqing could slowly damage the veins inside the penis and will cause erection quality to suffer.
 
Drjeckle said:
Hey guys, its refreshing to see others who have come to this same conclusion about penis size and how we think about it. I'm sorry that this has happened to you however, I honestly believe that both of you will recover. Don't let the uncertainty get to you and shake your will. Hang in there and keep thinking positively and things will be good.

Yeah it's true that many guys get ED, among other injuries, from Penis Enlargement. Even those who have seen positive results may in fact see negative ones down the road. However, I don't think this means Penis Enlargement, just like other exercise, cannot be done in a mutually positive way. Penis Enlargement is dangerous because its fairly new and there is no real consensus on what works. Moreover, its lack of acceptance by the medical community has left the internet as pretty much the source of information. So things are really all over the place right now. One guy who I think has a half-sane view of Penis Enlargement is Dr.Lin (Phd not MD). Personally, there is something about him that makes me feel uneasy, but his theories seem to be pretty solid. He says that Penis Enlargement must start with a healthy sexual system and once begun the Penis Enlargementer must supplement to facilitate to safe enlargement (though he also claims you can only get this by buying his products. I've bought the same substances online and from the pharmacy and the prices were similar though the ratios were most likely incorrect.) This is how I look at it, if you wanna build muscle you need excess protein. If you wanna build penis tissue, you need excess DHT, EFAs and NO. When your under 20 your hormone levels are high enough where supplementing is unnecessary. It is no coincidence that in Arab cultures that jelqing is only done for growth during puberty. Once these cycles slow down, you must recreate them if you want to grow like you did in puberty.

If you don't have
  • Acetycholine
  • Serotonin (5-HT)<(5-HTP)
  • Dopamine
  • Oxygen
  • DHT
  • Nitric Oxide
  • cGMP
  • amino acids
  • Essential Fatty Acids
  • powerful cardiovascular system
  • healthy pituitary, testicular and adrenal glands
  • healthy liver
you are risking something and ignoring the bigger picture of Penis Enlargement which is overall sexual enhancement.

I don't mean to shove this you guys' face, I'm just trying to make a valid argument for anyone still concerned with Penis Enlargement. My point is, your injury is likely because you have a server lack of something on that list or you have stressed one of those systems. Perhaps the liver or pituitary system. Anyway try to figure out what it is and restore your levels and take it easy. Once you do, you should see improvement in a few days (depending on your injury). Dr.Lins site is Sexual Orgasm Research Center - the Lin Institute. I hope that helps.

Good luck guys
Man does this thread bring my hopes to the ground. So what are you saying that Penis Enlargement must be avoided?
Its easy for many members to say that cause they dont know how it feels like to be underaverage.
 
I think with all due respect that perhaps in most of the case, ED came as a result of exercises that were not properly done or jelqing too erect or something like that.
I just can conceive that so many members (DLD, ithiel, Goldmember, hopefull,fedora, just too name some) have had such impresive gains apart that claiming that they have thier best erections ever.
I hope you guys heal though.:) and wish you the best of lucks.
 
dyablo said:
Man does this thread bring my hopes to the ground. So what are you saying that Penis Enlargement must be avoided?
Its easy for many members to say that cause they dont know how it feels like to be underaverage.

I know how you feel I am average too my dick erect is maybe just 2 inches or just over than my longest finger (5 inch erect I think), I am not truly happy with my dick I never was really but still feel no loss of any sensitivity or erection quality is worth it even for 2 inches of gains. This is my take on this though there are actually people I have seen on forums who would still love a massive penis even if they could barely get it up at all.
 
TheNextBIGThing said:
I know how you feel I am average too my dick erect is maybe just 2 inches or just over than my longest finger (5 inch erect I think), I am not truly happy with my dick I never was really but still feel no loss of any sensitivity or erection quality is worth it even for 2 inches of gains. This is my take on this though there are actually people I have seen on forums who would still love a massive penis even if they could barely get it up at all.

But dont you think that if done correctly and without rushing things out, Penis Enlargement might be safe?
I mean, what about all the succes stories that can be found throughout the forum, many of them including steel erections as well as 1-2 in gain.

Thats why im only searching half an inch and hopefully rock hard erections. But if I could for example gain a complete inch but with some erection loss, I wouldnt mind much.
 
Kegel kegel and still kegel. When you will last long 1 minute with one kegel your erection will be harder then ever. I think that kegel are too important because support other ex. like jelq and stretch.

Anyway i had problems with erection a while ago. I just stopped for 1 week and everything went to normality.

Just for your information consider that one time doing jelq i had incredible pain. I tried to have an erection, nada de nada. Then i realized that the problem was in my head: if you are strictly convinced that you can't have erection, you wont have an erection.
 
dyablo said:
Man does this thread bring my hopes to the ground. So what are you saying that Penis Enlargement must be avoided?
Its easy for many members to say that cause they dont know how it feels like to be underaverage.

I think I had misread the post to which I replied. It isnt been implied that Penis Enlargement is dangerous, but that as it depends purely in empirical research, there are high risks of injury happening, as in any other thing in life.
I think its like in bodybuilding (althought the penis aint a muscle) but you must begin lightly and gradually increase, and you must learn to do the exersices properly and be patient in order to see results.
 
Relax.. in our day and age, ED shouldnt ever be a problem. Be thankful you were born to live into the 21st century.

For now, go check these guys out:

Erectile Dysfunction - Doctors 4 Men

It's fairly cheap, but if you still cant afford it, you should be able to get a loan to cover travel & all. While I dont buy their claims regarding Penis Enlargement, I find their statements regarding ED to be highly believable and well-founded.
 
In my opinion, I think this whole Penis Enlargement thing is ridiculus and I was extremely unlucky, I noticed a sharp pain twice while stretching it hasn't been the same after that. I have read so many posts about similar experiences, most of them do not recover that well, so I have a new approach in life on how to learn how to live live with it. Tbirdy's post has been a real eye-opener, and probably helped me mentally also, you just have to face the facts that you have ED, and take whatever the shit you have to take, and be open with it if you have regular partner. Size doesn't matter in my opinion, and this whole thread about "the power of a big flaccid", is beyond stupid. I have finally woken up by my "complex", and it's a shame it was too late. Even urologist say that any kind of these Penis Enlargement fitness things can be very dangerous for you, even if you don't feel any pain, so why risk it. This is coming from a stupid and regretting man, is say this: If you want to feel more like a man, then go out there and fuck any broad you can get, and if they laugh or make comments about your size, then just say fuck it, most people have an average size, you are probably one of those too, even if you don't believe it.
 
MrNilsen said:
In my opinion, I think this whole Penis Enlargement thing is ridiculus and I was extremely unlucky, I noticed a sharp pain twice while stretching it hasn't been the same after that. I have read so many posts about similar experiences, most of them do not recover that well, so I have a new approach in life on how to learn how to live live with it. Tbirdy's post has been a real eye-opener, and probably helped me mentally also, you just have to face the facts that you have ED, and take whatever the shit you have to take, and be open with it if you have regular partner. Size doesn't matter in my opinion, and this whole thread about "the power of a big flaccid", is beyond stupid. I have finally woken up by my "complex", and it's a shame it was too late. Even urologist say that any kind of these Penis Enlargement fitness things can be very dangerous for you, even if you don't feel any pain, so why risk it. This is coming from a stupid and regretting man, is say this: If you want to feel more like a man, then go out there and fuck any broad you can get, and if they laugh or make comments about your size, then just say fuck it, most people have an average size, you are probably one of those too, even if you don't believe it.
You shouldnt bring that kind of attitude man. Yours was an unlucky experience, but why generalize. Are you trying to tell me and the other members that all those succes stories of men having bigger and healthier penises are just made up or what? You had bad luck, but i think if Penis Enlargement was so bad, there wouldnt be forums such as this. 105 458 members cant be wrong.
 
If you don't do things properly then things will go wrong, I'm just making guesses hear but I believe if you are experiencing problems then it is possible that the penis did not heal right, IOW it actually healed wrong, it did heal but the matrix got messed up somehow. Proper Penis Enlargement trainer could possibly fix this and force the matrix back into shape, again I'm just taking guesses here because let's face it, it's kinda stupid to think that Penis Enlargement does not make the penis stronger and more healthy, but yes their is the possibility that things can go wrong, but to look upon Penis Enlargement as being debunk is insane.

I seriously hope I'm still gonna be alive for when Penis Enlargement is know to the masses, Penis Enlargement has been around for centuries just look how far the internet has brought it DLD and all his Manuel techniques, BTC and his Vac hanger, Bib and the Bib hanger ie (Rice sock) pure magic.

But their is something I agree to, a bigger penis is not everything, but a bigger penis can sure as hell bring a lot more pleasure to a woman or man.
 
Point taken...

dyablo said:
You shouldnt bring that kind of attitude man. Yours was an unlucky experience, but why generalize. Are you trying to tell me and the other members that all those succes stories of men having bigger and healthier penises are just made up or what? You had bad luck, but i think if Penis Enlargement was so bad, there wouldnt be forums such as this. 105 458 members cant be wrong.
 
Pandora said:
If you don't do things properly then things will go wrong, I'm just making guesses hear but I believe if you are experiencing problems then it is possible that the penis did not heal right, IOW it actually healed wrong, it did heal but the matrix got messed up somehow. Proper Penis Enlargement trainer could possibly fix this and force the matrix back into shape, again I'm just taking guesses here because let's face it, it's kinda stupid to think that Penis Enlargement does not make the penis stronger and more healthy, but yes their is the possibility that things can go wrong, but to look upon Penis Enlargement as being debunk is insane.

Exactly my thoughts. As everything, Penis Enlargement has its risk and of course applying those amount of force to your cock can do some damage if not done carefuly.
I mean how can someone say that Penis Enlargement is just bullshit when doctors recomend a form of Penis Enlargement (weight hanging) after an enlargement surgery. If the penis can recover to that amount of damage ( the surgery) I think it should be able to heal from any injury gotten from Penis Enlargement.
 
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do you have any expereince with this? Or some threads that has dealt with this?


Pandora said:
If you don't do things properly then things will go wrong, I'm just making guesses hear but I believe if you are experiencing problems then it is possible that the penis did not heal right, IOW it actually healed wrong, it did heal but the matrix got messed up somehow. Proper Penis Enlargement trainer could possibly fix this and force the matrix back into shape, again I'm just taking guesses here because let's face it, it's kinda stupid to think that Penis Enlargement does not make the penis stronger and more healthy, but yes their is the possibility that things can go wrong, but to look upon Penis Enlargement as being debunk is insane.

I seriously hope I'm still gonna be alive for when Penis Enlargement is know to the masses, Penis Enlargement has been around for centuries just look how far the internet has brought it DLD and all his Manuel techniques, BTC and his Vac hanger, Bib and the Bib hanger ie (Rice sock) pure magic.

But their is something I agree to, a bigger penis is not everything, but a bigger penis can sure as hell bring a lot more pleasure to a woman or man.
 
This is also true, but some poeple heal up with a bigger penis and with ED.


dyablo said:
Exactly my thoughts. As everything, Penis Enlargement has its risk and of course applying those amount of force to your cock can do some damage if not done carefuly.
I mean how can someone say that Penis Enlargement is just bullshit when doctors recomend a form of Penis Enlargement (weight hanging) after an enlargement surgery. If the penis can recover to that amount of damage ( the surgery) I think it should be able to heal from any injury gotten from Penis Enlargement.
 
MrNilsen said:
do you have any expereince with this? Or some threads that has dealt with this?

The only thing I have experience with is moving plaque, this is done by doing B.T.B jeqling, Bigger is probably the best person to talk to Bib's Hangers :: Index

What I wrote above is just me guessing as to why problems may happen from doing Penis Enlargement, I have no knowledge about collagen tissues or what exactly happens, but I know bigger, Bib does.
 
I also think that Penis Enlargement may be a life time commitment, but I will never know this until I get older, and reach where I want to be. But I think Penis Enlargement must really help some of the older men.
 
Have you has any stretches gone bad? To the point where you felt sharp pain? I had two those almost 2 months ago, and my erection have been shitty after that. I am trying to relax about it and hope it will heal. I have seen the plaque theory on this board, but I have only read about one man that got better from *** jelqs, so I don't know. Anyways, I think I will have to take tests at the urologists and take it from there.

Pandora said:
I also think that Penis Enlargement may be a life time commitment, but I will never know this until I get older, and reach where I want to be. But I think Penis Enlargement must really help some of the older men.
 
MrNilson is there any updates to your situation like can you achieve full erection normally okay now. I agree with you in many ways I think judging from many forums post P.E. is pretty dangerous whether people are doing these exercises correctly or not. As dylabo said many people have been very successful I am blown anyway by some peoples gains, but on the other hand quite a few men get bad E.D. and do not really recover from it. What gets me is that many guys who suBathmateit their starting pic appear to be big in the first place which leads my to question why the hell would they need to do P.E? I would chop off my right arm for a big like that. I see quite a few members starting off at 8 inches long and I can not help and think what the fuck you have a perfect size why even risk at any ofl your penis functionality when you have a big dick.

I agree with you all the way I was too insecure in my penis size and it has resulted in having some problems in my life, I caused slight damage to penis at 16 because I was too hung up on my penis size as the cause of it.
 
I think I have a pretty severe injury, my erections are not evene close to 100%. I have been doing everything by the book, but the last Penis Enlargement day I had two bad stretches, and ED the day after. I know about the plaque theory, but it seems unlikely since I am a young man. Anyways, I'm not saying that I am taking this lightly, but all I can do is rest and hope, and not let it go to my head. And if it's permanent, then it's permanent. Can't go back in time. So, all I can do now, is read and learn.



TheNextBIGThing said:
MrNilson is there any updates to your situation like can you achieve full erection normally okay now. I agree with you in many ways I think judging from many forums post P.E. is pretty dangerous whether people are doing these exercises correctly or not. As dylabo said many people have been very successful I am blown anyway by some peoples gains, but on the other hand quite a few men get bad E.D. and do not really recover from it. What gets me is that many guys who suBathmateit their starting pic appear to be big in the first place which leads my to question why the hell would they need to do P.E? I would chop off my right arm for a big like that. I see quite a few members starting off at 8 inches long and I can not help and think what the fuck you have a perfect size why even risk at any ofl your penis functionality when you have a big dick.

I agree with you all the way I was too insecure in my penis size and it has resulted in having some problems in my life, I caused slight damage to penis at 16 because I was too hung up on my penis size as the cause of it.
 
MrNilsen said:
Have you has any stretches gone bad? To the point where you felt sharp pain? I had two those almost 2 months ago, and my erection have been shitty after that. I am trying to relax about it and hope it will heal. I have seen the plaque theory on this board, but I have only read about one man that got better from *** jelqs, so I don't know. Anyways, I think I will have to take tests at the urologists and take it from there.

I have had more than just slight pain. And their is more than just one person that has benefitted from B.T.B jelqs.
 
haha, we could have a gay 'ol time, ehh????

I'm tryning to take this ED, temporarely or not with a little humor, just to check that it isn't mental. But the point I still have an ache in the ligament, so I guess that havet to heal up first. It's been like this for almotst two months, so it looks bad, but hen again, you never know. I have been depressed about it, but there's no point int that. I just hope it'll get better.
 
MrNilsen said:
haha, we could have a gay 'ol time, ehh????

I'm tryning to take this ED, temporarely or not with a little humor, just to check that it isn't mental. But the point I still have an ache in the ligament, so I guess that havet to heal up first. It's been like this for almotst two months, so it looks bad, but hen again, you never know. I have been depressed about it, but there's no point int that. I just hope it'll get better.

I don't know about the gay part, but I know about the manipulating the blood part.
 
TheNextBIGThing What gets me is that many guys who suBathmateit their starting pic appear to be big in the first place which leads my to question why the hell would they need to do P.E? I would chop off my right arm for a big like that. I see quite a few members starting off at 8 inches long and I can not help and think what the fuck you have a perfect size why even risk at any ofl your penis functionality when you have a big dick. [/QUOTE said:
Ill have to agree with you on that one. I dont know how many big guys just want to be bigger, while some of us only want to be average.
 
So what would be the conclusion here for you huys?
Mine would be as follows:
Penis Enlargement is indeed risky, and wihtout the proper precautions it can result into severe injuries. But for most cases men are able to add around an inch to thier penises with the proper dedication.
 
MrNilsen said:
haha, we could have a gay 'ol time, ehh????

I'm tryning to take this ED, temporarely or not with a little humor, just to check that it isn't mental. But the point I still have an ache in the ligament, so I guess that havet to heal up first. It's been like this for almotst two months, so it looks bad, but hen again, you never know. I have been depressed about it, but there's no point int that. I just hope it'll get better.

Be sure to keep us updated about your progress man. I know you will get better. I think you should try asking someone like DLD for advice, or ask Pandora to give you more indepth recomendations, as he seems to know a lot and has been in this stuff(Penis Enlargement) for quite some time.
Be sure to inform me about any progress man.
 
Yeah MrNilson keep us to update with things If possible.

Also dyablo Is it just me or have I seen you on another P.E. forum? If you do not mind me asking.:)
 
Well, I wish I could say that it's going better, but it's not. Now I have even developed some more pain in the penis and have to take medecines for that. My flaccid hangs longer and more limp, there are no good signs for me. I think I will get better, but not the same as it used to be. I'm not trying to be negative here, but realistic. Before this, I could get all the girls I wanted, now I can just look them in the eyes, think about how I used to be, and stear away any sex talk, because I can't stand to have another knife in the heart. It's all very surreal to me. I think those who have gained, has also had their share of injuries and fully recivered, and those who don't gain don't push it to the edge anyways. And those who are fucked for life, well, no gaining there..
 
TheNextBIGThing said:
Yeah MrNilson keep us to update with things If possible.

Also dyablo Is it just me or have I seen you on another P.E. forum? If you do not mind me asking.:)

Yeah Im also a member of Mens Network and My New Size FOrums, because Im trying to learn as much possible about Penis Enlargement.
 
MrNilsen said:
and those who don't gain don't push it to the edge anyways.

I would like to take your advice there, but Im simply obsessed with getting a bigger penis. It is just a matter of pride for me, I cant accept that so many men out there are bigger than me. So I will keep pushing but listening to my body. I will never overdo the time or intensiity if I ever felt any pain.
i think the key here is that you overdid your routine. You said it yourself when you mentioned that you were stretching too erect and you felt pain.
Keep the faith man and you will heal eventually. I wish you the best.
 
Hey mate, i am very sorry to read that you are having issues with ED but i feel i should chime in my own 2 cents on this.

I have grown quite a lot from Penis Enlargement, i have had sharp pains on shaft, head, testicles, the whole thing and they have always subsided after a few days rest and pause and warm bath immersion.

I must state that i have NEVER agreed that erect or semi-erect jelquing would be safe, in fact, i think it is downright dangerous stuff to be forcing blood that intensely from vessel to vessel without just bursting them open.

That brings you scar tissue and less vessels to bring blood to where it is needed.

I always jelq totaly flaccid, i am now above 7" girth and at 8 bp lenght. I started at 6.5x6.5 and have done this since march 06. I have had stronger and stronger erections as time goes by. I don't do kegels and still i have HUGE O's from sex or mast.

I have done Penis Enlargement only sporadicaly,ie, never done it like everyday nor have i done it for more than 20 or 30 mins at a time betwin jelqs and stretches.

I never used any kind of device except my own hands, i do the jelq dry and only did it wet a few times.

I have a few questions for you mate, is your diet healthy? are you healthy? are you taking any medications whatsoever that could bring you these side effects? Is your liver fine? have you checked your hormonal values lately?
Have you had some sort of depression or anxiety issues ?

All of these as well as just one or other could develop into this kind of problem, so please check all of the above.

This stuff has given me more penile health than i ever had before and i am 33yo.

One more thing, and this is something i have not yet disclosed in this site because of serious lack of time, and the news is:

I haven't done ANY Penis Enlargement for 4 months now. The results? I lost NOTHING from the time off, neither lenght, nor girth. Erection quality is insane, like 110% and it feels like it is going to explode, i can actualy knock on it like i knock on a door and it is hard i tell you, insanely hard.

I can go for as long as i want, i have multiple dry O's before i ejeculate, i masturbate quite often and have sex more than once a day.

This means for me that i have properly cemented my gains without even knowing i did cause it was not on purpose. I just don't have the time or the privacy for it and this in not something you do in front of your girl ( personal opinion ) cause it is such a personal thing and shouldn't get mixed up with a love affair.

All this being said, i trully believe you will get over this, check all the things i wrote about up there and BELIEVE YOU WILL GET OVER THIS. Don't defeat yourself to start with, think positive and you will get through.

Keep us posted mate

Peace

Mike
 
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