Check out the dildo reviews on edenfantasys.com. There are tons of thorough reviews by women on that site. Actually, I find reading them to be quite a turn-on, but whatever. ;)

I've read tons of them. What you often see are quotes like this...

For a dildo with 5.75" girth or more:

"A bit too girthy for every day use"
"not for beginners"
"Great for size queens"

For a dildo with 5.25" - 5.5" girth:

"Perfect thickness"
"Ideal"
etc.

For a dildo with 7-8" length:
"A bit longer than I'd like"
"A little too big for hard thrusting"

For a dildo with 5.5-6.5" insertable length:
"Ideal length"
"Perfect"

Now, to be fair, most dildos are made of a material that is very unforgiving. A human penis (especially the head) has much more give and less friction than a rubber dildo, meaning that impact and friction against the cervix will be less comfortable, and that the stretch it puts on the vaginal entrance is more, even with lubrication. I can confirm this, because I bought a rubber dildo for my girlfriend that was my exact girth, and she felt like it was a little too thick. After experimentation, I realized that, to adequately compare the size of a dildo to a penis, you have to actually pull the measuring tape tight. This compresses the penis (and dildo) about as far as a vagina would. This reveals that your penis, when compressed by a vagina, has at least 0.25" less girth than you would normally measure... unless we're talking a crazy viagra erection of steel. Which, by the way, is why Viagra and kegels do in fact make you bigger. Harder erections = bigger erections.

Anyway, I digress. The only dildo that comes close to human penis deformation under stress (from all our delightful experimentation!) is the Vixen Vixskin line. If you read the reviews on this thing, you'll see that women absolutely fucking love them. I mean, like hands down, they think it's the best dildo ever.

Now, VixSkin, subjected to my test, actually gives slightly more than an erect human penis would. But, the girth that women LOVE in this line? 5.5"-5.75", about 0.25" more than the size typically favored.

Unfortunately, the VixSkin line has a big hole in it, lengthwise... making it hard to say at what length it becomes uncomfortably long for the average woman. It goes from 6.25" insertable to 8.75" insertable, with nothing in between. The 6" length gets rave reviews, and the 8.75" is generally considered too long, despite its considerable give. The 2" girth is also considered a bit much, despite the give.

However, one trend I've noticed is that there are a whole category of women who think anything less than 2"+ girth is too small... probably this group is mostly made up of women who have gone through natural childbirth, although I'm sure there are also some size queens in that group.

But, nonetheless, the majority seem to want something inside them that is only SLIGHTLY above average. The problem with this is that BPenis EnlargementL is not a consistent measure of "insertable" length. NBPenis EnlargementL is a better measure of insertable length, but it varies wildly from position to position. If you're the ideal length for missionary, you're going to be too long to slam it home in doggie or knees up.

In other words, while there may be an ideal girth, there is no ideal length. It totally depends on the position. And it also depends on entirely on the woman, and her arousal level.

Just to be safe though, I'm still aiming for 8" NPBEL by 6" MSEG. ;) Because "ideal" for me means her saying things like "god, you're big". This ain't Goldilocks and the three bears!

Tom
 
doublelongdaddy;393378 said:
Wonder who is buying the 14" models:)

Lesbos?

Anyway, this stuff basically says what I've thought for years now. GIRTH is king. Length is mostly for visuals and male ego. I dunno why a guy would want a long skinny dick though. I'd rather have a short, thick one or average thick one.
 
stillwantmore2;393874 said:
Lesbos?

Anyway, this stuff basically says what I've thought for years now. GIRTH is king. Length is mostly for visuals and male ego. I dunno why a guy would want a long skinny dick though. I'd rather have a short, thick one or average thick one.

Yup, this is basically the reason I have been focusing on girth at this point. At 7 nbp i feel like I need to catch up in the girth department. Plus, im sure some small length gains will come from all this girth training.
 
There is usually gains in length when girth is gained as the penis expands in all directions in girth.
 
It feels like ecstasy when I have sex with my thicker penis, so not just those ladies who prefer thicker manhood's. You'll find the pleasure is bliss ... wonderful this Natural penis enlargement really is ... I can have a shit day and at night relax in the bath with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and have a perfect dry orgasm ... because I'm worth it hahahaha
 
Anyway, this stuff basically says what I've thought for years now. GIRTH is king. Length is mostly for visuals and male ego. I dunno why a guy would want a long skinny dick though. I'd rather have a short, thick one or average thick one.

dude evrytime i see a adult entertainment with a dude with a thick ass chode i get jealous...haha
 
i think it does, to an extent. when i started dating my wife 5 yrs ago, she said i was alot larger than the few guys before me and was not used to it and hurt the first time i went in (girth) and hurt when i'd go all the way in (length) but after about the 5th time we had sex, it felt "sooo much better" going in than the previous bf's and felt "sooo good" that i could go in farther than shes had before. BUT, we went and bought some toys, one being a dildo that was a lil over .5" longer than me and wider than me and she did not enjoy it because it stretched her and hit her cervix harder than i do....that aside, my wife says she absolutely loves the size of my penis (only been doing pe for a few days, not even a week) but will support me in my effort to become slightly larger regardless...so in "our" opinion, average is better than small, "above average" CAN be better than average, and BIG just hurts....
 
94exa2;397332 said:
i think it does, to an extent. when i started dating my wife 5 yrs ago, she said i was alot larger than the few guys before me and was not used to it and hurt the first time i went in (girth) and hurt when i'd go all the way in (length) but after about the 5th time we had sex, it felt "sooo much better" going in than the previous bf's and felt "sooo good" that i could go in farther than shes had before. BUT, we went and bought some toys, one being a dildo that was a lil over .5" longer than me and wider than me and she did not enjoy it because it stretched her and hit her cervix harder than i do....that aside, my wife says she absolutely loves the size of my penis (only been doing pe for a few days, not even a week) but will support me in my effort to become slightly larger regardless...so in "our" opinion, average is better than small, "above average" CAN be better than average, and BIG just hurts....

It is all relative to your unique situation. Imagine if she wanted 14" :) You got it easy my friend:)
 
It feels like ecstasy when I have sex with my thicker penis, so not just those ladies who prefer thicker manhood's. You'll find the pleasure is bliss ... wonderful this Natural penis enlargement really is ... I can have a shit day and at night relax in the bath with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and have a perfect dry orgasm ... because I'm worth it hahahaha
7" fucking girth!!! It will take years till I have that... you lucky bastard :P
No serious, this has got nothing to do with luck, you worked for it and you deserve it, so now it's paying off I guess and you are making others extremely jealous :)
Shit I wanna know how it feels like to have a 7" thick bat down there...
 
It feels good, makes my masturbations sessions incredible haha I dont have much sex ATM ... too busy with career and getting myself sorted out and who needs a bitch when you got hands, free adult entertainment and brotherhood? You'll find that as you get larger the confidence gets better, not just with sex but when you deal with yourself ... pleasure from masturbation or sex is different ... from the higher contentedness I think as well from having a larger penis but much to do with stronger PC muscles aswell ... a bigger dick isnt a magic potion which will make us all very happy overnight with sex and masturbation, but it helps move obstacles and create new found beliefs that helps us breakdown any barriers, certainly helps new experiences.
 
The information is very useful. For example, I came into P.E with the aim of 6" EG. Now the dildo material is very unforgiving, but our [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] Certified Cocks will not be quite as hard :). They're still pretty hard though !
 
i think 8 x 6 is becoming the bencHydromaxark for women, whether they like that size or not, i believe there mind is as polluted as ours with adult entertainment, and it doesn't help us guys everywhere you go now on internet, there is an advert to enlarge your cock by 4" in 1 month, yeah like its that easy. there expecting way to much of us nowadays.
 
We should all protest and start penis reduction methods:)
 
pappamolla;381294 said:
Not only girl don't have idea about the dimension of penis, but men too :s

They have a great IDEA:)

Women can usually be classified in
When your their boyfriend, they say you are massive,
When you break up, they say you are small:)
 
Considering that women can do kegel exercises and make their vaginas tighter means that the key to THEIR pleasure is up to them, if a girl is loose and gets with a guy who is smaller than she is used to then of course she's going to think he's too small when in reality if she did kegel exercises with kegel balls she could make herself as tight as she wants and feel just about any sized penis. MOST women can only orgasm clitorally therefore she either has to play with herself or the pelvis of the man can rub her clit, clearly a man with a long penis cannot do this.
 
In someways this is good, because if your 6 inches to your girl its 8 inches hahah I also assume some of this inconsistency with women and guessing comes from the POV they have from underneath, which we obviously cant do unless we are an Ostrich! They see underneath the penis more and the part which goes near the anus, so possibly take that into account? Tend to measure way into the side or to the anus like a dogs tail.
 
Girth range's and what they mean

Very Small=<4.5"
Small=4.5"+
Average=~5"+
*Large (Above Average)=5.5"+
*Huge=6"+
*Gargantuan/Gigantic=6.5"-6.75"+
*Monster=7"-7.25"+
 
Study

What importance do women attribute to the size of the penis?

Francken AB, van de Wiel HB, van Driel MF, Weijmar Schultz WC.

Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Groningen University Hospital, P.O. Box 30.001, 9700 RB Groningen, The Netherlands.
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: A great deal of men consider that the size of the penis is directly proportional to its sexual power. Some men, who are worried that their penis is too small, wish to be considered for surgical lengthening or thickening procedures. The argumentation for this chiefly points in the direction of women. However, have women actually been asked about the extent to which they consider the size of the penis to be of importance from a sexual point of view? Or asked what they think about ideas surrounding the size of the penis in relation with actual sexual functioning?

PATIENTS AND METHODS: To address these questions, 375 sexually active women who had recently given birth at the University Hospital Groningen were asked a number of questions about sexual functioning and the importance they attach to the size of their partner's penis.

RESULTS: A total of 170 questionnaires were returned (response rate 45%); 20% of the women found the length of the penis important and 1% very important; 55% and 22% of the women found the length of the penis unimportant and totally unimportant, respectively. Opinions about the girth of the penis followed the same trend. Length was less important than girth: 21% and 32%, respectively. The women who found the girth of the penis important had the same opinion about the length of the penis (correlation 0.71, p=-0.001). Median division into two subgroups (girth important/unimportant; t-test) did not reveal any significant differences in relation with demographic data. Correlation analysis did not reveal any significant correlation between sexual functioning (measured with the NSF) and opinions about the girth of the penis.

CONCLUSION: Although clearly in the minority, a nevertheless considerable percentage of the women respondents attached substantial importance to the size of the male sexual organ.

PMID: 12429149 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

SOURCE
 
Another study done in 2001 Penis size: Survey of female perceptions of sexual satisfaction took 50 sexually active female undergraduate students who were asked which felt better, i. e., was penis width or length more important for their sexual satisfaction.

The female students ranged in age from 18 to 25 years old. In person or via telephone, the females were asked "In having sex, which feels better, length of penis or width of penis?" In half the cases, the word "width" was used before the word "length," but there were no order effects. There were also no effects for telephone vs. personal interview. All female participants answered the question, perhaps because they knew the student asking the question.

Women reported that penis width was more important for their sexual satisfaction than penis length. The results were statistically significant. Penis width needs to be given more consideration, and taken into account when one discusses penis size.
 
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This thread although different in subject does run alongside this in away because women cannot measure and so the question to the thread ''Is bigger better to women'' can be partially answered in how some of them measure and interpret that data or assume its interpretation.
 
Excellent thread. I wanted to add one issue that probably wasn't addressed yet: The Shrinkage Factor. Many of you have probably seen the Seinfeld episode where the woman walks in on George Costanza changing, and she laughs at his seemingly small penis. George rants and freaks out about "shrinkage!!" Jerry later asks Elaine if women "know about Shrinkage?" She replies "what you mean like with laundry?" Point being, she did not know and I think this is a valid truth of male vs female culture. Women have no clue about shrinkage.

I remember one time, I was on speed and went skinny dipping with 3 girls. I don't know about others, but speed has a horrendous effect of shrinkage on me. I also can't get it up easily on speed. The sensations are actually 500% higher on speed (ie it feels incredible) but I've had girls sucking my dick for an hour and on good speed, it just wouldn't rise up lol. So back to the point, when I went skinny dipping with these girls, my penis had shrunk to the smallest I've ever seen it, probably like 2" NPBFL. It was freaking tiny-and they indeed think that was the real me, and there was some giggling involved and so forth. Yet I truly have a good sized penis (naturally), 6.3" NPBEL, and 4.0"+ NPBFL.

But I do wish I'd have known about clamping and jelqing at the time-maybe I could have induced the penis to act his age and avoided the undeserved impression I left on those 3 girls.
 
That was some funny shit! George was so mind fucked!
 
Women are really shit at spatial activities, such as estimating lengths and sizes, hence why they say 6 inches is 8 inches.

Men are much better, hence why we are good at guessing pornstar willies. :)
 
doublelongdaddy;379577 said:
Most men have gone through situations that may have caused them great stress and lack of confidence based on what a woman has told them about their penis size. &nbsp;With huge misconceptions in what an average penis size is, men may hear comments and run off believing them to be fact. &nbsp;In one situation that comes to mind, a client of mine came to my forums in great distress because a woman he liked and wanted to sleep with made comments about her ex having a 10" penis and that she loved the sex. &nbsp;he became obsessed with this since he was only sporting a 6.5" penis. &nbsp;He made a post on my forums stating that he needed to gain a few inches before he would attempt to sleep with her. &nbsp;This, even though totally irrational, he believed it to be so.

A few weeks went by and the opportunity arrived for him to have sex with her and he went for it. &nbsp;His anxiety level was through the roof and he really worried what she would think of his 6.5" penis. &nbsp;To his amazement, he got undressed and the girl told him he was much bigger than her ex. &nbsp;He was instantly blasted into reality. &nbsp;He asked her again how big her ex was and she again claimed 10", when he told her he was 6.5" she was floored. &nbsp;Her math was quite a bit off.

This scenario runs crazy through a lot of mens lives. &nbsp;Comments from locker rooms, sexual experiences gone wrong, ex girlfriends cloudy math, and many other situations. &nbsp;One completely incorrect comment could have the potential to ruin a man's whole life and most of the time NON OF THIS is based in reality. &nbsp;My ex girlfriends recollection of size was so faulty that I eventually stopped listening to her. &nbsp;One day one of her ex's were 9" and a week later they were 7. &nbsp;One girlfriend I was with told me her ex had a 14" penis! &nbsp;What a joke and I allowed these comments to really effect me.

When it comes to men and penis size women hold a certain, unstable power over men and if a guy is ignorant to this he could have some serious heart ache in store. &nbsp;These situation usually arise when men inquire about a females past lovers. &nbsp;When a man asks about this it puts the woman in the position to take over and most men fall victim to this. &nbsp;As I stated, this power is claimed on shaky ground and as easily as it is taken by the woman it can be reclaimed by the man.

What can you do? &nbsp;First and foremost, forget about her past and realize that if more than 90% of men fall into average size (5-5.5" in length and 4.75-5" of girth) than the chances of their female friend encountering something above this is very, very rare. &nbsp;Lets do some math based on average size according to most studies.

There are about 302,000,000 people live in the US. &nbsp;Out of these people 151,000,000 are men. &nbsp;Out of these men about 75,000,000 are sexually active. &nbsp;Out of these men 67,500,000 fall into average size. &nbsp;The remaining 7,500,000 fall into smaller than average and larger than average. &nbsp;Since we are more concerned with how many larger men there are we will stick with the stats. &nbsp;3,750,000 men fall into the larger area of size, the remainder fall into smaller than average. &nbsp;Out of the 3,750,000 approximately 80% of these men are in the 6-7" range, about 3,000,000. &nbsp;That leaves us with 750,000 men walking around with a size greater than 7". &nbsp;As we approach the 9" size we see the number dwindle to approximately 50,000 men in total with a size close to 9". &nbsp;When compared to the women in the US who are sexually active (about 75,000,000) the chances of a woman experiencing a true 9" penis become 1 in about 72,000,000. &nbsp;This means a woman would need to sleep with about 70,000,000 men to experience a 9" penis.

So, the next time you are worried about penis size and women please refer to this blog, it will save you so much stress and anxiety. &nbsp;Next time your girl tells you she was with a dude with a 9" penis you can say with great certainty, so how about the other 72,000,000 men:)

Freakin AWESOME post!!! LOVE IT!!!
 
Women have NO idea about size. When I got divorced at 31, the first woman I dated was 42. While giving me head (laying between my legs) she says, "thats a big dick, gotta be 9 inches." I was a solid 6 inches at the time. She was viewing it from underneath and it affected her perspective. I told her not quite and to quit trying to talk with her mouth full. Do the Penis Enlargement and the accolades will come. because of work, I only get to see my wife on the weekends and the latest ego boost came when she was gasping "Oh jesus.....going places.......you .....ain't never .....been." This is coming from a 38 year old woman that is feeling like a virgin again these days. She hasn't yet requested that I stop the Penis Enlargement. Just light pumping and jelqing.
 
i do it because i want it to be in proportion to my body, guys who are taller and have stronger legs will not have the same luck with the woman making the same error with perspective viewing...
 
doublelongdaddy;388923 said:
Do not read so much into it, take the compliment and let it fuel your continued efforts of enlargement. If she said you have nice hair would you read into it? Of course not, so don't with this.

I am sitting here aghast. Very profound.

Gomer,
I'm glad you finally got laid. If she says it's big, then it's big. Ask no more questions. Well strike that, ask her when she's going to deep throat that monster!
 
Women also measure in terms of fit. "Why do you have to move?","I don't really like something all the way up in my belly",and a lot of unspoken reactions like using tricks to keep some outside. The unspoken tricks can be mis-interpreted, like is that done for the way she feels now or is she not going to want it deep ever. Some things are funny, like we lay across the bed so when she runs backward across the bed on her elbows she can keep going on to the floor and then around the bed and back up and start over but she basically likes it for two laps.
 
Before I started Penis Enlargement, one of three women would have a problem but they were able to do something with it. My favorite reaction was "You fucked up my bizness...black bastard" (I'm white, she was a pro). Since she really didn't like it, though, the politics were from there, and not fun for me, no haha. I learned to go slow on penetration, do other things first until they want more, that's helping.
 
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