TomdW said:
Welcome back!!

And good luck on your mushroom head. lol
I never went anywhere....just lazy about updating this thread :D

I have added VKay's Bib Hanger glans exercise into the mix, and will try that DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]slow squash jelq[/words] against the wall that I have been hearing about...
 
yeah I just trhough [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] in my routine yesterday but i couldnt get a tight enough base grip so i clamped it and did [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and u cud really feel it.
 
Goldmember, I have been wondering how much weight you are up to with the Max Vac hanger. I read posts about the Max Vac but few are saying they are doing much more than low weight. You said in an earlier post you were up to 20# and even 30# and that was probably with a Bib hanger. How goes it with weight with the Max Vac?

My Max Vac is on the way, should get it this week. Anxious to try it. I was up to 15# with little trouble but could not do more than three 20 minute sets.

My girth is good, but I sure want to push the length. Hope this Max Vac will help me get some more length. GS
 
German Stallion said:
Goldmember, I have been wondering how much weight you are up to with the Max Vac hanger. I read posts about the Max Vac but few are saying they are doing much more than low weight. You said in an earlier post you were up to 20# and even 30# and that was probably with a Bib hanger. How goes it with weight with the Max Vac?

My Max Vac is on the way, should get it this week. Anxious to try it. I was up to 15# with little trouble but could not do more than three 20 minute sets.

My girth is good, but I sure want to push the length. Hope this Max Vac will help me get some more length. GS
It must have been someone else...the most I have even used with a Bib Hanger is 14 pounds, painfully. Within a couple weeks, I could easily hang 17.5 from the max vac, which isn't much, but in 90 minute sets, it felt great. I am not hanging at this point in time. Once I get that mushroom head, I should be able to hang without needing high pressure. You will get used to the vacuum pressure in a couple weeks, so slowly work those sets up to 30 minutes, 40 minutes, hour, hour+...
 
Sorry Gold..I misread some of the above replies. I have used the tube in the past and have a large glans so hopefully I can handle the pressure of the MaxVac. Sure hope it works for me. GS
 
German Stallion said:
Sorry Gold..I misread some of the above replies. I have used the tube in the past and have a large glans so hopefully I can handle the pressure of the MaxVac. Sure hope it works for me. GS
I ended up getting a blister three weeks ago from using 14inHg. Try to use as little pressure as you can while still getting a nice seal.

My advice is start with two sheaths. One will get you nowhere, and two is enough to get started. You will quickly get the hang of three. Remove the sheaths after every session...don't leave them on or they'll get stretched out and lose their sealing ability.

Pump to about 4inHg with your flaccid penis completely in the tube. Wait about 3 minutes so your head swells a bit, then pull lightly (but progessively stronger) on the tube for about 3 more minutes before attaching the weight. The pressure will rise when you pull on the tube. This will assure that your glans expands enough to hug the cylinder. Otherwise your pull will be on the skin instead of the internal structures. The max-vac does a very good job of pulling internal structures because it grips the glans very tight, yet comfortably.

This should be enough to get you started. You may also want to throw a cotton ball in the cylinder before putting your dick in it so that your pee hole doesn't get irritated by rubbing the end of the cylinder when pumping it.
 
So this was my routine today...

1.)Got to 100% erect then clamped at the base.
2.)Put my ThermoFlex heating pad over my cock and held 5-second kegels, 10 reps
3.)Did 30-second bend to the right, then 30-second bend to the right
4.)repeated steps (2) and (3) 11 more times.
5.) Last ten minutes, I crossed my legs and made sure the clamp moved up a bit. This really jacked up the pressure.

Total time : 60 minutes

Great workout today. I alternate this routine (or variations thereof) with the following routine, which I will do tomorrow:

1.) Got to 100% erect then clamped at the base.
2.) Put my ThermoFlex heating pad on top of my cock and did 6 sets of 50 1-second kegels.
3.) Did 20 minutes of PowerJelqs/ JelqDevice jelqs while in the clamp.
4.) Cross legs and move clamp up shaft to increase pressure.

Total Time: 60 minutes

Again, this workout is also intense.
 
hey gold
i just got ur txt msg. I'm out of the country which explains why im never on msn.

i've been doing the uli routine with great results on head girth.
i should restart doing the head girth exercise using the bib... its the most extreme head girth exercise i've ever felt.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
hey gold
i just got ur txt msg. I'm out of the country which explains why im never on msn.

i've been doing the uli routine with great results on head girth.
i should restart doing the head girth exercise using the bib... its the most extreme head girth exercise i've ever felt.
hopefully youre nowhere near the bloodshed in lebanon....but good news from you. I have my eye on that Uli routine. I stopped doing the Bib glans exercise. I don't know if there is something I'm missing, but it doesn't feel as intense as other glans exercises I'm doing.
 
goldmember said:
hopefully youre nowhere near the bloodshed in lebanon....but good news from you. I have my eye on that Uli routine. I stopped doing the Bib glans exercise. I don't know if there is something I'm missing, but it doesn't feel as intense as other glans exercises I'm doing.


it gets a while to get used to specially since there should be little or no blood in the shaft. you have to wrap TIGHT while flacid and only leave the glans and one inch under the glans (at most one inch, you can wrap right until the glans).. then you lubricate the glans and you stimulate yourself with adult entertainment or thoughts to get an errection. if you've wrapped properly you wont get an errection no matter how hard you try. your glans will start engorging however, and while the shaft is still flacid the glans will be hard.

thenput the bib on. and tighten it a bit. start stimulating yourself by rubbing the head and underside of the head with your fingers and keep kegeling more blood in. when you have maximum expansion start to tighten the bib.

even as it is you will start to fidgit with 'pain' of internal pressure. but after tighening 2 or three turns, wait, and let your penis get used to the accumulated pressure. once the teeth grinding pressure subsides a bit start tightening again. do this 3-4 times or howeverlong it takes to reach the tightest setting you use for hanging or slightly less. point is the hanger should grip the sides quite strongly. making sure the glans is 100% engorged, attatch a 2-3 lbs weight, and SLOWLY let it go easing out the amount of pressure the weight causes. hang there for 1-2 mins if you can and build up to 5-10 mins.



on wednesday I decided to clamp, and i did the whole cross legged thing i read somewhere on the forums (i forget who recomended it) and it was soooo intense i still cant Penis Enlargement. =(>:( <:( >:( <:(
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
it gets a while to get used to specially since there should be little or no blood in the shaft. you have to wrap TIGHT while flacid and only leave the glans and one inch under the glans (at most one inch, you can wrap right until the glans).. then you lubricate the glans and you stimulate yourself with adult entertainment or thoughts to get an errection. if you've wrapped properly you wont get an errection no matter how hard you try. your glans will start engorging however, and while the shaft is still flacid the glans will be hard.

thenput the bib on. and tighten it a bit. start stimulating yourself by rubbing the head and underside of the head with your fingers and keep kegeling more blood in. when you have maximum expansion start to tighten the bib.

even as it is you will start to fidgit with 'pain' of internal pressure. but after tighening 2 or three turns, wait, and let your penis get used to the accumulated pressure. once the teeth grinding pressure subsides a bit start tightening again. do this 3-4 times or howeverlong it takes to reach the tightest setting you use for hanging or slightly less. point is the hanger should grip the sides quite strongly. making sure the glans is 100% engorged, attatch a 2-3 lbs weight, and SLOWLY let it go easing out the amount of pressure the weight causes. hang there for 1-2 mins if you can and build up to 5-10 mins.



on wednesday I decided to clamp, and i did the whole cross legged thing i read somewhere on the forums (i forget who recomended it) and it was soooo intense i still cant Penis Enlargement. =(>:( <:( >:( <:(
Sounds good partner :)

I will try that out (slightly different than I interpreted before) with my clamping routine tomorrow.
 
Gold...I have a Max Vac now and have only used it a couple times, but both times, I have used too much pressure and pulled a lot of fluid into the area behind the glans. I will try and use it without much pressure. Was thinking of putting a sheath on the penis to keep it from ulling fluid into the tissue. Any thoughts on not getting fluid buildup. The ease and comfortable ness of the hanger is awesome though. GS
 
My suggestion is proper cylinder size. If you use the tips I gave in a few posts back, and use a snug fitting cylinder, then that should allow you to use less pressure. Right now, I am growing into my oversized cylinder.
German Stallion said:
Gold...I have a Max Vac now and have only used it a couple times, but both times, I have used too much pressure and pulled a lot of fluid into the area behind the glans. I will try and use it without much pressure. Was thinking of putting a sheath on the penis to keep it from ulling fluid into the tissue. Any thoughts on not getting fluid buildup. The ease and comfortable ness of the hanger is awesome though. GS
 
German Stallion said:
Gold...I have a Max Vac now and have only used it a couple times, but both times, I have used too much pressure and pulled a lot of fluid into the area behind the glans. I will try and use it without much pressure. Was thinking of putting a sheath on the penis to keep it from ulling fluid into the tissue. Any thoughts on not getting fluid buildup. The ease and comfortable ness of the hanger is awesome though. GS
GS,

I found that consistent use is what the broke the levee of fluid for me. I'm talking a couple of months of use. Similar to regular pumping, I experienced fluid buildup early on and next to none after putting in the hours. Also, be conscious of your technique. You want to feel the majority (95+%) of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] behind the cylinder, and not within. I set up with virtually no stress within the chamber. If there's too much pressure in the cylinder, you will feel a "force field" that the glans/upper penis must travel through before the weight is expressed to the shaft and anchoring systems behind the hanger. In time, you will master (hopefully) a more efficient insertion technique to limit excess vacuum. Again, this comes down to experience.

~BTC
 
prince Albert said:
GM,how are you getting on with the head girth,any progress yet?
I have trouble measuring the glans, or at least getting a consistent way of measuring. How do you measure it? Curious.

I think in the meantime, I will go by the look of it to judge whether I'm gaining, and I would have to say I might have gained a little bit in the past month or so...
 
goldmember said:
I have trouble measuring the glans, or at least getting a consistent way of measuring. How do you measure it? Curious.

I think in the meantime, I will go by the look of it to judge whether I'm gaining, and I would have to say I might have gained a little bit in the past month or so...


what i do is i get errect and put on the pump. apply lets say 5 psi.. i push the cylinder as far as it goes so bone pressed, and i take a marker and draw the outline of my penis. the exact head dimensions etc.

its a good way of monitoring it.
 
New routine I have been following the past couple days seems to be what I'll stick with:

1. Get erection
2. Kegel / Reverse Kegel as much blood into head as possible.
3. Squeeze blood out of glans. Repeat steps 2-3 about five times or so. (primes the glans for expansion).
4. get back to 100% erect and apply clamp, (with enough wrap above clamp for about 1.5" of nylon rope.)
5. perform the DASH MAD RAP for ten minutes. (push clamp up slightly, then cross legs and hold this position, all while watching some good adult entertainment).
6. power jelq device with clamp on for about 3-5 minutes, kegeling between each rep to make the glans swell.
7. repeat steps 4-6 twice for a total of three sets.
8. repeat step 4
9. place thermoflex heating pad (or heavy hand towel) atop erection, and perform as many kegels as you can, lowering and raising the heating pad (or towel) with each squeeze of the PC muscles.

to illustrate how important kegels/reverse kegels are to glans girth, get an erection normal and observe it...then hold a five second kegel, then a five second reverse kegel and watch the glans...much bigger.
 
The BTC Killer said:
GS,

I found that consistent use is what the broke the levee of fluid for me. I'm talking a couple of months of use. Similar to regular pumping, I experienced fluid buildup early on and next to none after putting in the hours. Also, be conscious of your technique. You want to feel the majority (95+%) of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] behind the cylinder, and not within. I set up with virtually no stress within the chamber. If there's too much pressure in the cylinder, you will feel a "force field" that the glans/upper penis must travel through before the weight is expressed to the shaft and anchoring systems behind the hanger. In time, you will master (hopefully) a more efficient insertion technique to limit excess vacuum. Again, this comes down to experience.

~BTC
Okay, I sent you an email today but had not read this. I am struggling with this fluid stuff. Lots of frenulum fluid. The hangings is awesome and outside of the fluid that makes me look like a freak, I am doing well. Are there any of you out there with a foreskin that are using the Max Vac that have conqured this fluid buildup?

When you say that 95 percent needs to be behind the cylinder...I can't get a seal without pressure. It won't hold any weight if I don't use the cylinder pressure. Maybe I am still not doing something right. About insertion technique...what ideas can you give. GS
 
Take one of the blue sheets and roll it over your glans so it just covers the frenulum area. Put another sheet on the max-vac, roll it over the edge of the max-vac, insert penis all the way to the end so the head hits the end wall, roll down the sleeve, tug the max-vac to make sure you have a good seal.

To ensure you really get a good seal, try to get the sheet that is going to cover the frenulum area to be low enough on your penis so it just manages to stick out from the cylinder before you roll down the seal. This causes the sheet on your penis and the sheet that is over the max-vac to merge with each other and you will have a solid seal. It really is not necessary to use a pump with this device.
 
Hey guys. I have used the Max-Vac hanger, and highly recommend it. But let's keep this thread centered on my routine, and discuss Max-Vac technique outside of here. I kind of started it by giving one member advice in this thread, but let's cut it out. Much appreciated.
 
goldmember said:
New routine I have been following the past couple days seems to be what I'll stick with:

1. Get erection
2. Kegel / Reverse Kegel as much blood into head as possible.
3. Squeeze blood out of glans. Repeat steps 2-3 about five times or so. (primes the glans for expansion).
4. get back to 100% erect and apply clamp, (with enough wrap above clamp for about 1.5" of nylon rope.)
5. perform the DASH MAD RAP for ten minutes. (push clamp up slightly, then cross legs and hold this position, all while watching some good adult entertainment).
6. power jelq device with clamp on for about 3-5 minutes, kegeling between each rep to make the glans swell.
7. repeat steps 4-6 twice for a total of three sets.
8. repeat step 4
9. place thermoflex heating pad (or heavy hand towel) atop erection, and perform as many kegels as you can, lowering and raising the heating pad (or towel) with each squeeze of the PC muscles.

to illustrate how important kegels/reverse kegels are to glans girth, get an erection normal and observe it...then hold a five second kegel, then a five second reverse kegel and watch the glans...much bigger.
Okay, so this routine seems to have unbelievable potential for glans expansion, and overall girth gains! My expansion has been 6.25" during each set, and previously, was only about 6" with earlier clamping routines. Also, I can see VEINS in my glans when I do this, but only if I modify the DASH MAD WRAP to center on glans expansion...wrap further up the shaft; about 2 full inches or more...and here's the real kicker: OK grip just above the last wrap of string, and use your other hand to bend the penis forward. This squeezes a lot of blood out of the corpus spongeosum into the head. Nothing beats this for glans expansion. I hope to have a bigger head next time I measure it..which I still cannot figure a consistent way to measure the glans.
 
goldmember said:
Okay, so this routine seems to have unbelievable potential for glans expansion, and overall girth gains! My expansion has been 6.25" during each set, and previously, was only about 6" with earlier clamping routines. Also, I can see VEINS in my glans when I do this, but only if I modify the DASH MAD WRAP to center on glans expansion...wrap further up the shaft; about 2 full inches or more...and here's the real kicker: OK grip just above the last wrap of string, and use your other hand to bend the penis forward. This squeezes a lot of blood out of the corpus spongeosum into the head. Nothing beats this for glans expansion. I hope to have a bigger head next time I measure it..which I still cannot figure a consistent way to measure the glans.

hey gold,
I dont understand the wrapping part. What do you wrap with... nylon rope? what the hell is that? and where can i get it? ?:( ?:(

and how do you exactly wrap? and how thick? i.e. how many turns?
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
hey gold,
I dont understand the wrapping part. What do you wrap with... nylon rope? what the hell is that? and where can i get it? ?:( ?:(

and how do you exactly wrap? and how thick? i.e. how many turns?
Yeah, I just use a nylon rope I bought from Bass Pro Shop. It is a little more than 1/8 inch thick. I wrap about 15 times, as tight as possible and with no space between wraps. This goes up about 2 inches on the shaft, although I am thining about cutting a longer string so I can wrap further up. Make sure you use a thin material to wrap your erection before putting the clamp on, and tuck about one inch of the nylon rope into the clamp before you start wrapping the rope.
 
[posted in main forum under "4-hour self-induced erection]

Along the same lines of the four-hour erection technique [that I posted in the main forum], I tried something new yesterday. I did a three-hour marathon girth workout:

30 minutes of wet jelqing
30 minutes of clamped erect bends
20 minutes of wet jelqing
30 minutes of clamped Dash Mad Rap
20 minutes of wet jelqing
30 minutes of clamped erect bends
20 minutes of wet jelqing

This routine kicked ass! The only downside is it took three hours lol

I obviously don't have time for this kind of workout every day, but even once per week would be a great addition to my Penis Enlargement regiment. Interestingly, the bends and Dash Mad Rap seriously potentiate the effects of jelqing. The first session of jelqing served as a warm-up and primer. My second set of wet jelqs felt much more intense and gain-producing. The third set was even more intense than the previous, and the final set was super-hardcore! I have jelqed for 90-minutes straight before and whe I did, the last few minutes felt intense...but not nearly as intense as my final set of wet jelqs did yesterday!

This three-hour routine seemed more effective than the four-hour erection technique I tried a couple weeks ago, judging based off fatigue. Both are high-intensity routines.
 
[posted in main forum under "4-hour self-induced erection"]

I tried ANOTHER marathon routine last night. Here it goes:

20 minutes Pumping at 4-7 inHg
20 minutes clamping (some double clamping and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s)
20 minutes wet jelqing

I did three sets of the above, and my girth (temporarily) exploded 0.75"+.

Between this routine, the last one I posted, and the original 4-hour erection, you guys have three marathon girth workouts to choose from if you want to try a hardcore workout.
 
[posted in main forum under "Twice-Daily Sessions: A Big-Gainer Principle?"]

I've been theorizing a lot about how much time should be spent on Penis Enlargement to see the most gains. The most obvious thought is "the more the better". But I think it is more complex than that...

I have noticed after re-reading Dash's thread on the Dash Rap (an awesome technique for girth) that he followed a twice daily split...So did DLD for much of his big-gain run...as did Bib...as does SWM. All of these guys are Big-Gainers (TM?)

Recently, my routines have been going for about three hours whenever I get the time...definitely along the lines of "more is better". But today, I decided to try two 30-minute sessions, spread about 8 hours apart. First session was 3 reps of the Dash Rap, and 8 hours later, another three reps of the Dash Rap. Something I noticed is that my PRE-WORKOUT cock (before workout#1) was about 5.75" erect girth. My PRE-WORKOUT cock (before workout#2) was about 5.875" erect girth. Obviously some inflammation going on in those eight hours (very little if any fluid buildup).

Two hours after my second workout, my erect girth exceeded 6.0" by about one hash mark. Not only that, but the second workout was borderline PAINFUL even though I didn't go any harder than workout#1.

Maybe a double-split routine is the way to go for Big-Gains. I would love it if DLD, SWM, Dash, and Bib(?) would chime in on this one. The double-split routine may be one of those overlooked--or I should say underemphasized--principles of a penis enlargement regiment.
 
I too go for the split routine as of recent- reading Ulis thread really got me excited t try it. I know what you mean when you say that the second routine felt borderline painful- it feels as if your pushing out inside your dick with tremendous pressure. I can really feel huge expansion in my glans for some reason in the second workout.

What do you wrap with when you clamp? I dont use anything, but I think I would be able to trap the blood longer if I use something.
 
More Meat said:
I too go for the split routine as of recent- reading Ulis thread really got me excited t try it. I know what you mean when you say that the second routine felt borderline painful- it feels as if your pushing out inside your dick with tremendous pressure. I can really feel huge expansion in my glans for some reason in the second workout.

What do you wrap with when you clamp? I dont use anything, but I think I would be able to trap the blood longer if I use something.
Thanks for the interest in my routine. I use [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap. Try it out.
 
hey im new here. the tips you posted in the pictures is that for lengh gain? even tho im starting out what would you recommend a time to be on each exerices. just like regular exerices i try to overdo myself every time..
 
goldmember said:
The double-split routine may be one of those overlooked--or I should say underemphasized--principles of a penis enlargement regiment.
I agree, if you look into static-progressive stretch splinting, you'll see it's recommended to do just that. But they say the optimal is 3 times daily at 30 minutes each - spread out, of course. This was for the purpose of lengthening connective tissues.
 
gerrykjohnsons said:
I agree, if you look into static-progressive stretch splinting, you'll see it's recommended to do just that. But they say the optimal is 3 times daily at 30 minutes each - spread out, of course. This was for the purpose of lengthening connective tissues.
I remember someone discussing this when talking about hanging.

I might consider adding a third routine midday, making all three routines shortened to about thirty minutes.
 
So the last month I have been following a steady routine. There was a time between early August and early September where I was experimenting with 3-4 hour marathon workouts, but I have found that it simply takes too much concentration to stay focused for that long. If you aren't focused, you can't have a good girth workout.

I have been using the double-split method, doing one routine immediately upon rising. The second routine I do approximately 12 hours later. If at all possible I try to get a short session in midday or even 10 minutes of wet jelqing, but I don't always have the time availability or desire. It is said that you can only focus your efforts on one thing at a time, and if you switch modes while in the middle of something, you lose your momentum. This is why I find the midday routine difficult to squeeze in most of the time.

So the morning and evening sessions are identical in blueprint. Here has been the routine I have been following twice daily for the past month:

*3 reps of the dash rap, about ten minutes each rep. One clamp for the first set, and if needed, I add a second clamp for intensity on the second and/or third sets.
*3 reps of the clamped wall-compressions, 30-60 seconds each rep. Basically the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] with a clamp (or two) on, using the wall behind your hand to provide more pressure.
*100 wet jelqs, slow and hard, with 100% focus on directing the creative visualization of a larger penis into each rep.


So the above routine is done twice daily. Usually, it takes between 45-60 minutes each time. If time permits, I will do 3 reps of the dash rap clamped midday, or ten minutes of wet jelqing, but most of the time this doesn't happen.

Another thing I have thrown in the last couple weeks is ANC. Putting on a cock cushion right before sleep, and leaving it on all night. Makes the morning session very productive.

I notice that my best fatigue sets in during the morning session after having sex the night before. The fatigue is also amplified if I masturbate before putting the cock cushion on at night.
 
goldmember said:
So the last month I have been following a steady routine. There was a time between early August and early September where I was experimenting with 3-4 hour marathon workouts, but I have found that it simply takes too much concentration to stay focused for that long. If you aren't focused, you can't have a good girth workout.

I have been using the double-split method, doing one routine immediately upon rising. The second routine I do approximately 12 hours later. If at all possible I try to get a short session in midday or even 10 minutes of wet jelqing, but I don't always have the time availability or desire. It is said that you can only focus your efforts on one thing at a time, and if you switch modes while in the middle of something, you lose your momentum. This is why I find the midday routine difficult to squeeze in most of the time.

So the morning and evening sessions are identical in blueprint. Here has been the routine I have been following twice daily for the past month:

*3 reps of the dash rap, about ten minutes each rep. One clamp for the first set, and if needed, I add a second clamp for intensity on the second and/or third sets.
*3 reps of the clamped wall-compressions, 30-60 seconds each rep. Basically the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] with a clamp (or two) on, using the wall behind your hand to provide more pressure.
*100 wet jelqs, slow and hard, with 100% focus on directing the creative visualization of a larger penis into each rep.


So the above routine is done twice daily. Usually, it takes between 45-60 minutes each time. If time permits, I will do 3 reps of the dash rap clamped midday, or ten minutes of wet jelqing, but most of the time this doesn't happen.

Another thing I have thrown in the last couple weeks is ANC. Putting on a cock cushion right before sleep, and leaving it on all night. Makes the morning session very productive.

I notice that my best fatigue sets in during the morning session after having sex the night before. The fatigue is also amplified if I masturbate before putting the cock cushion on at night.

Its funny you mention the Stallion Cushions, I JUST bought the whole set this week. I'm scared to put it on at night though... I tried putting it on after a couple of hundred jelqs, and i could feel my dick goig numb. So i went to the washroom and sure enough my dick was cold and a lil dark... meaning it wasnt getting enough blood.. and that was with the E model, the least constriction. Did you get like this at all?
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
Its funny you mention the Stallion Cushions, I JUST bought the whole set this week. I'm scared to put it on at night though... I tried putting it on after a couple of hundred jelqs, and i could feel my dick goig numb. So i went to the washroom and sure enough my dick was cold and a lil dark... meaning it wasnt getting enough blood.. and that was with the E model, the least constriction. Did you get like this at all?
The E model is what I wear. If you get too constricted, you will wake up with pain...believe me you can't sleep through that. Simply remove it when you wake up if it hurts too much.
 
goldmember said:
The E model is what I wear. If you get too constricted, you will wake up with pain...believe me you can't sleep through that. Simply remove it when you wake up if it hurts too much.

Ok, I'll try it tonight. If I wake up with my penis detached, I will FedEx it to you. >:(
 
goldmember said:
And I can get those alloderm grafts I always wanted....

lol. ok i tried ADC'ing with the B model, its absolutely impossible to go any longer than 15-20 mins. E model is good, but I cant say i'm 'semi-errect' in it. im kinda just very hung flacid. not much blood in there, but it definately prevents it from retracting. Question is, how can that help gains?
 
I personally don't think it can. To me, unless the blood is actually being forced into the cells and surrounding tissues, thats the only way gains will come, once that peak is gone, the pressure is off, and the benefits from the workout are over....
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
lol. ok i tried ADC'ing with the B model, its absolutely impossible to go any longer than 15-20 mins. E model is good, but I cant say i'm 'semi-errect' in it. im kinda just very hung flacid. not much blood in there, but it definately prevents it from retracting. Question is, how can that help gains?
well, if you wear it overnight, you will get erections that are very rigid. I don't wear mine during the day.
 
I tried wearing the A model yesterday but was only able to go one hour. The E model really didn't do anything for me - I was able to wear it eight hours straight and only remembered I had it on when I had to piss. Not a bad thing, but it also didn't seem like it was doing anything.
 
goldmember said:
I tried wearing the A model yesterday but was only able to go one hour. The E model really didn't do anything for me - I was able to wear it eight hours straight and only remembered I had it on when I had to piss. Not a bad thing, but it also didn't seem like it was doing anything.


One thing I've noticed with the E-model is that, if I manage to get a hard on, and keep it for a while, that my dick gets a huge expansion. Uniform expansion that is quite obvious is from fluid build up. But nevertheless much more than when I do hardcore clamping. My flacid gets to 6.5", which impresses quite a large number of people that seem to randomly stare at other people's crotches.


I remember reading a post by someone over at thunder's, recommending clamping without actually tightenning the clamp too much. He recommended just having it on for a couple of notches and that in that way he got alot of expansion. I can't understand why or how this works, but it does. Try it and let me know what you get. Remember, wear it on a day that your somewhere semi-private with your girl, so that you get semi aroused but dont do anything other than light stroking. Point is to have your gold... member... engorged (not to the max) for an hour or more. Whats good is you dont have to consistently maintain the engorgement. Now go try it and report back >:( !
 
Sure will. I am wearing the B model right now at it's been on for several hours without any discomfort. Better expansion than the E model.

As far as ligth clamping, I would guess that it closes the veins, but not the arteries.
 
The B model works great for ADC, and the E model works great for ANC...for me at least. I am deconditioning right now, and it is a great time for it because I am overtrained and need to make more time for toher things in my life right now. Hopefully I will pick back up in a couple months and see some gains.
 
Whats your current girth, how long did you do the am/pm thing for.
I.... think we started or I heard you start about it, or whatever. I have been doing it for about 3months, some nights after strenous days , I don't get the evening one in, but for the most part I do. I measured like a week or two ago and didn't see any gains. I am gonna measure after my 6months/ at the end of january. any thoughts, encouraging words?
You were adressing someone like a month ago, they were saying they wanted to put on 1/2" girth, u said expect a min. of 6 months to year.
With our practice am/pm, u think that one might not put that on? Is it possible 1/2" in a year just isn't for some people. My girth always varied 1/4" so untill I gain more than that, I really won't know if it is gonna work. When I do see that gain, hopefully at 6month mark I'll know I can get to my goal!
 
Currently, my girth is about 5.875". I grew about 0.25" since starting my girth routine in July, but only since September have I been doing the AM/PM split (two months). I gained about 1/8" from once per day, and 1/8" from the last two months of twice per day. I think the decon break came at a great time, because I had already put several months into my routine, so the gains are likely semi-permanent already.

As far as how fast you can gain, everyone is different. Even the fastest gainers claim only 0.75" in six months, and that is VERY fast. Realistically I think you would have to put in two years (some of which is decon) to gain an inch in girth, but again, everyone is different.

As far as encouragement, I would say keep working at it until you have put at least three months into it. At that time, if you haven't seen much gains in a while, take a decon break. I noticed a 1/16" gain in the last two weeks of NO Penis Enlargement.

blackice said:
Whats your current girth, how long did you do the am/pm thing for.
I.... think we started or I heard you start about it, or whatever. I have been doing it for about 3months, some nights after strenous days , I don't get the evening one in, but for the most part I do. I measured like a week or two ago and didn't see any gains. I am gonna measure after my 6months/ at the end of january. any thoughts, encouraging words?
You were adressing someone like a month ago, they were saying they wanted to put on 1/2" girth, u said expect a min. of 6 months to year.
With our practice am/pm, u think that one might not put that on? Is it possible 1/2" in a year just isn't for some people. My girth always varied 1/4" so untill I gain more than that, I really won't know if it is gonna work. When I do see that gain, hopefully at 6month mark I'll know I can get to my goal!
 
goldmember said:
The B model works great for ADC, and the E model works great for ANC...for me at least. I am deconditioning right now, and it is a great time for it because I am overtrained and need to make more time for toher things in my life right now. Hopefully I will pick back up in a couple months and see some gains.

It's funny how similar our Penis Enlargement careers are even without us directly communicating what we're planning on doing. I'm in my third week of the 'P phase of the IPR' as in I'm wearing the E model all day. This came at a GREAT time because I have midterms and projects comming out of my ass and I find it so refreshing to be mentally free of Penis Enlargement.

Prior to this break, I was mentally addicted to Penis Enlargement and felt as if any break was time wasted in the journey to a bigger dick. I am now free of that and I don't feel the need to Penis Enlargement at the moment as I know the break is a part of my Penis Enlargement career and that around january 17th, I will be starting my routine again.


I havent measure to see if I've gained anything thus far in my break, but what's for certain is that I haven't lost anything either. My dick seems MUCH leaner and much more vascular than before, which is a bonus.

I'll try the B model for the day.

I also wrap with a strip of paper towel as I find it irritate my skin (even if i put water based lube on). Do you wrap?
 
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