ShadedSam;576250 said:
I read around and came across DMSO and bought some. I'll see how well it works, and you can let me know how well leech oil works. If neither work, I may need to find a way to get verapamil. I'm going to stop most of my girth work for awhile to focus on length some more. I think that my girth work might be tightening my ligs.

I use DMSO too ... For me there wasn't an obvious difference but I say every advantage counts. I will make a thread on the leech oil and how it helps with healing (I have a nagging injury as the result of extreme clamping).

I understand why you want verapamil. I thought about using this: http://www.amazon.com/Nitromin-spra...TF8&qid=1391872764&sr=8-1&keywords=trinitrate - because Red mentioned he used Glycerate Nitrate in this thread http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?20565-New-from-the-redman!&highlight= and I thought I might be similar. But I didn't want to risk it .. wanted something more natural so I am going to try this: http://www.thejamushop.com/Sex_erection_spray.htm, which is from the same site where I got the leech oil (the one Red recommended) so in a couple months after I start back at Penis Enlargement I'll see how well it works.
 
It's hard/difficult to find a topical source of verapamil. If someone finds one, hit me up! :) Unless your uri can get you a script for it.

However. Most gels seem to be around 15% strengths and there are sources for the pill versions if someone wanted to make a topical out of DMSO.
You just have to figure out how much 15% means in terms of mg/g totals.
Not too mention there could also be some synergistic compounds in the gels/creams that help verapamil, but I'm not aware of this.

There is also an injectable that kinsey uses or is going to use (search his posts), but it's @ a very low dosage and I doubt anyone knows how much is needed for the PD effects.
 
Hey sam, With the DMSO you could mix it with the leech oil, and it might make it more effective as it would get carried through your skin as opposed to sitting on top. PABA is a also a good addition its for a similar purpose as verapamil gel, only way cheaper and you dont need a prescription, heres where I got mine, really quick shipping, 500gms is probably all you'll ever need but I got 1 kg lol.

http://purebulk.com/paba-powder-para-aminobenzoic-acid.html#.UvbwqGLCBgs

doing this every day should soften your tunica and ligs (put it on your groin too). I use oral PABA and DMSO+PABA every day it has kept my penis really pliable even when hanging 10+ pounds. hope that helps bro
 
Ok, thanks coogi and superman. I would really like to try verapamil. I'll probably try smercs idea of crushing up some verapamil pills and putting it in DMSO if this doesn't work. For now though, I bought vitamin E cream and PABA and I'll mix those into my DMSO. I also bought some PABA pills that I'll be taking. I think I'm the perfect candidate for this. My ligs didn't used to be tight at all, but now I have this super tight cord across the top of my penis that I'm guessing is fibrosis from to much pe. If one of these work, than the cord will begin to loosen. I won't know which did it (or if all do) but if none of them work, than that will be pretty good evidence against them. I'm going to do a 3 month cycle of it to be sure.
 
I'm not seeing much difference in the cord from the DMSO/PABA, but everything else seems more pliable. Also, it seems to be helping with the discoloration that I got from pumping, but in patches for some reason. Some patches are back to normal while other patches are still dark. Anyone know why that might be?

I've broken a plateau I've been stuck on. I've been at 8.75 for awhile, but now I'm getting dangerously close to 9" greatly depending on erection level, and I finally have been able to go further on my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I was stuck at the same length on it for nearly 2 months. Also, I've noticed as I get bigger, the length is much more influenced by erection level. I can have 8.1 inches at 85%, but 8.9 at 100+%, which I kind of expected. That was the reason I decided to go for 10 instead of 9. I want to be able to have at least 9 even when I'm not 100%.

I'm thinking once I can legitimately break the 9" barrier, I'm gonna have to start a new thread :). 9 going for 10! or something like that.
 
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This is my current [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] setup. I put double springs (from home depot) so it is at about 6 lbs of force, and I'm using AutoExtender's VacExtender 3 and attached it with a little hook thing from walmart. I also bought extra bars. I'm at three 2" and a 1" lol
 
Motivational! How much have you gained with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
 
I've done a lot of things, but I would guess I've made almost an inch with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] alone.
 
I've read your whole log great dedication man, you basically have my dream goal. But you do so many things it's hard to tell what gave you your gains. What would be the best method/exercise for length that worked for you? I've been stretching on and off for 3 months just manual stretching haven't seen much gains sitting around 7'' bpel for 6 months now and it's really demotivating. I've been thinking about buying a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and adding hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches and hope to break the 7'' bpel platuea. It's really frustrating being at the same length for 6 months at times it gets really demotivating and you want to quit pe, you think like wtf i'm im doing pulling on my dick everyday and it's not even growing. Then I come back and read logs like these and think okay it's possible... BUT HOW lol never ending circle man.
 
That's why I started this thread. To show it was possible. Once I proved to myself it was, I wanted to show others. I can't say that its possible for everyone, but I assume that most bodies are similar. If I was gonna sum up what I've learned, its to switch it up every time you hit a plateau. After 6 months extending, I hit a plateau, so I added pumping and broke it (and a lot more extending). I hit another one, added hanging, and broke it (and even more extending lol). I hit another one and added DMSO/PABA and broke it(and more tension in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]). All the while, I never stopped using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], pumping, and doing occasional manuals and occasional clamping.

So my suggesting would be to continue to do what works, and add another element. You said that you stretch "on and off". That is the very worst thing you can do. I learned this the hard way, you can't even take one day off otherwise your body will start to heal and strengthen making things harder in the future.

With only 3 months (6 months? I'm a little confused on that) under your belt, it isn't a big deal, but in the future, don't take days off if you can avoid it. Also, I would suggest an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Manuals are great for getting newbie gains, and I still use them, but you can only hold on for so long lol. The pump should help break your plateau, but you're also going to need to really up the time under tension. I'm probably at about 2,000 hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. A lot of that time at over 2,500 grams of force.

Just imagine if you were trying to extend your earlobes or your legs (there are leg surgeries that do this to make people taller), you don't just extend it for 15 minutes every other day and expect it to grow. In fact, if it isn't continually stretched it will just go back to its original size (until it has healed or "cemented" at the new size). Its not a direct comparison because they are different tissues, but its a very fair comparison because the body works very similarly no matter what part your stretching.
 
ShadedSam;578898 said:
That's why I started this thread. To show it was possible. Once I proved to myself it was, I wanted to show others. I can't say that its possible for everyone, but I assume that most bodies are similar. If I was gonna sum up what I've learned, its to switch it up every time you hit a plateau. After 6 months extending, I hit a plateau, so I added pumping and broke it (and a lot more extending). I hit another one, added hanging, and broke it (and even more extending lol). I hit another one and added DMSO/PABA and broke it(and more tension in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]). All the while, I never stopped using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], pumping, and doing occasional manuals and occasional clamping.




So my suggesting would be to continue to do what works, and add another element. You said that you stretch "on and off". That is the very worst thing you can do. I learned this the hard way, you can't even take one day off otherwise your body will start to heal and strengthen making things harder in the future.

With only 3 months (6 months? I'm a little confused on that) under your belt, it isn't a big deal, but in the future, don't take days off if you can avoid it. Also, I would suggest an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Manuals are great for getting newbie gains, and I still use them, but you can only hold on for so long lol. The pump should help break your plateau, but you're also going to need to really up the time under tension. I'm probably at about 2,000 hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. A lot of that time at over 2,500 grams of force.

Just imagine if you were trying to extend your earlobes or your legs (there are leg surgeries that do this to make people taller), you don't just extend it for 15 minutes every other day and expect it to grow. In fact, if it isn't continually stretched it will just go back to its original size (until it has healed or "cemented" at the new size). Its not a direct comparison because they are different tissues, but its a very fair comparison because the body works very similarly no matter what part your stretching.

I've been doing PE for about a year now but the first half year was more newbie like.. then I gave it my all with stretching 3 months no off days made zero gains and got discouraged and stretched on and off for 3 months. But what you say makes perfectly sense.. Whenever I stopped stretching for a week and got back to it, it didn't feel right at all. It felt like my ligs toughened everytime just a odd feeling. I'm gonna get back to it and stretch everyday and purchase a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and hope to break my plateau. Thanks alot for replying and If I may ask how many hours are u in your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] everyday? Good luck on journey
 
I think I finally made it to 9 inches BPEL! So I'm precisely on my goal of .09 inches a month. Unfortunately I sat on my ruler and snapped it so I can't get a measuring pic right now :( but I'll take one as soon as I get another ruler. But for now this shows a VERY significant difference from where I was in my pic in post 19 which was September.
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This is my current [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] setup. I put double springs (from home depot) so it is at about 6 lbs of force, and I'm using AutoExtender's VacExtender 3 and attached it with a little hook thing from walmart. I also bought extra bars. I'm at three 2" and a 1" lol

Would you say that the VacExtender 3 is worth the $70 price tag as an add-on for your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? From the looks of it it looks comfortable, but $70 for a silicone sleeve and cap is kind of high...

Congrats on your gains, by the way.
 
Thanks! Considering you're getting something that works like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster Pro[/words] (especially if you get the Vac4) which is $220 its a relatively cheap option. I highly recommend it. You can double the force and triple the time without breaks. I can't vouch for their sleeve (I bought their silver package which didn't have one), but I bought this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penis-Enlar...srt-/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181030112980 and cut it in half which works great.
 
ShadedSam;579225 said:
Thanks! Considering you're getting something that works like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster Pro[/words] (especially if you get the Vac4) which is $220 its a relatively cheap option. I highly recommend it. You can double the force and triple the time without breaks. I can't vouch for their sleeve (I bought their silver package which didn't have one), but I bought this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penis-Enlar...srt-/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181030112980 and cut it in half which works great.



Ahh, thanks. I already own a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] so I'm not in need of another [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], but the VacExtender 3/VacADS? extension that you have on in that photo makes it look like a worry-free stretch. A noose just easily slips off and a "comfort" strap becomes too tight.

I'm guessing that you have the cylinder on underneath the silicone sleeve in order to hook it onto the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? Can barely tell if it's there!
 
Yeah its underneath you can see the outline of it and the attachment triangle on top. I put the sleeve all the way around it so it doesn't slip off at that high of pressure. That's why I said I can't vouch for their sleeves since their not nearly as long.
 
So I'm currently between jobs, and there is a girl that I am fucking who works at a high end movie theater (I just fuck her so I can see movies for free). I went with her to the movies the other day and she introduced me to her coworkers. I was wearing skinny jeans at the time (they were actually regular jeans but I have very muscular legs so they worked like skinny jeans on me) with my massive hog snaking down my leg. The girl I am fucking told me that the other girls noticed I have a huge "package" and that they all have a crush on me. So I'm thinking about getting a job there and starting up a bit of a harem scenario, but I'm not sure if I should since it might be kinda weird for the current girl. Anyone have any thoughts? I think it would be kinda fucked up, but also kinda awesome so I'm not sure.
 
ShadedSam;579566 said:
So I'm currently between jobs, and there is a girl that I am fucking who works at a high end movie theater (I just fuck her so I can see movies for free). I went with her to the movies the other day and she introduced me to her coworkers. I was wearing skinny jeans at the time (they were actually regular jeans but I have very muscular legs so they worked like skinny jeans on me) with my massive hog snaking down my leg. The girl I am fucking told me that the other girls noticed I have a huge "package" and that they all have a crush on me. So I'm thinking about getting a job there and starting up a bit of a harem scenario, but I'm not sure if I should since it might be kinda weird for the current girl. Anyone have any thoughts? I think it would be kinda fucked up, but also kinda awesome so I'm not sure.

Great story man. Did they react when you met them? Is in your avatar the size you are carrying flaccid in pants?

I dont think you should take a job there just cause of that.
Her telling you that they have a crush on you sounds like she has no problem with them fantasizing(lol).
If she doesnt think that you are all hers forever then you might push her to introduce them to your dick.
You know is she like, thats all my dick and you bitches can envy me?
If she is already telling you what they talk about you then your girl is telling them probably even more.
 
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