DHT is an anabolic steroid, and illegal in the US. Evening Primrose Oil is a source of GLA, an essential fatty acid stimulating the production of a beneficial prostaglandin called PGE1. So you should still take it, I think it is a good supplement, although it wouldn't really affect DHT levels much. You might consider borage oil, though, where the GLA concentration is about twice that of Evening Primrose oil - more bang for the buck. My point is that DHT is irrelevant to this discussion, for the reasons mentioned.
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This is not meant to be an arguement. The science of Penis Enlargement is unknown. Use the ballooning method is you choose. Please calm down on the who knows more rambling.
One more thing, GLA is a 5ar inhibitor, look it up. Will it effect Penis Enlargement? I dont know......Nor do you.
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One more thing, GLA is a 5ar inhibitor, look it up. Will it effect Penis Enlargement? I dont know......Nor do you.
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Yes, you are correct - GLA is a 5ar inhibitor, and won't do much to increase DHT levels (I see that I was unclear in this) - it will in fact decrease DHT levels in the tissues where this enzyme is present, and thus not be a help if this theory was correct.
Oh, and you may cut the passive agressive shit, we are both mature here. This is a DISCUSSION board, right? Where does it say that members can not argue with theories proposed? I happen to be a consultant in fields like endocrinology, cell biology etc, and I think you would react the same if you were a car mechanic and someone came on the board talking about carburetors and ignition systems as if they had a clue.
Will reverse kegels affect Penis Enlargement? Sure - and we already knew that. Does it have anything to do with DHT or how a muscle grows in response to training? No, and that was my point.
I'd say we have plenty of knowledge about the processes involved. So I'd have to completely disagree with this statement.
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well i'm not saying JUST this will give you all the answers, i believe very much that jelqing and many other Penis Enlargement exercises are important and the growth comes mostly from these. I'm just tyring to figuire out why it grows. DHT being illegal...i'm talking natural DHT i wouldn't take steroids in a million years, my body doesn't need it and I proved this to myself. PGE1, i've heard of it, forgot what exactly it does though :/ i just would think DHT could amass itself in a higher concentration along the lines in penile growth, not higher levels all over the body.
yea haha i've noticed that too my dick gets longer everytime i take a shit, how did you come up with such an idea ....that puzzles me:/
but yea it seems my length gains have stopped;however, my girth seems to have kicked in gear, i am NOTICEABLY thicker over the week i would estimate a .25 gain but im forcing myself not to measure until a month, but hey i know that shit is definately blowing up.
but hey comon people dont let yourseves down.. the science of Penis Enlargement will soon no longer be unknown, maybe if you let it be unknown and continue what you're doing ...just maybe
peace
yea haha i've noticed that too my dick gets longer everytime i take a shit, how did you come up with such an idea ....that puzzles me:/
but yea it seems my length gains have stopped;however, my girth seems to have kicked in gear, i am NOTICEABLY thicker over the week i would estimate a .25 gain but im forcing myself not to measure until a month, but hey i know that shit is definately blowing up.
but hey comon people dont let yourseves down.. the science of Penis Enlargement will soon no longer be unknown, maybe if you let it be unknown and continue what you're doing ...just maybe
peace
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I am far from a car mechanic. Someone asked me what I do for a living? I am a biochem student myself. I can understand your wanting to set things straight as far as the information presented. But, everyone here has a right to post information without the fear of being bewildered. We can discuss things with the proper tone and without agitating one another.
My only concern is that others will not post because of fear of reprisal. This is not Thundersplace and I expect everyone to be able to post their theories. Be them right or wrong.
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PS: I would love to see some science on Penis Enlargement. Not just with collagen alone but with the Tunica Albuginea (because the integrity is much higher).
Well yea i know it's not muscle, i'm just implying that the penis IS stimulated to grow just as weights stimulates muscle to grow. The question is, what makes them grow biochemically. When i do this exercise i see significant expansion, i only do this when i am 100% erect or it would be impossible , you must be able to hit 130-140% of your normal erection.
I do give alot of contribution to my girth by just basesqueezes. I do alot of the DLD girth buster configurations, perhaps this is why i'm gaining alot of girth and no length?
whenever i gained my 1/2 inch in a week or so, all i was doing was stretching in circles for 10 minutes continously spinning here and there for circulation, then i would do 3 second wet jelqs for 20minutes THAT WAS IT for about a week. It was no wonder i hadn't gained a packing of beef girth wise because i never expanded the shit past 100%, so i just ended up stretching the innersheath length wise only.
peace
I do give alot of contribution to my girth by just basesqueezes. I do alot of the DLD girth buster configurations, perhaps this is why i'm gaining alot of girth and no length?
whenever i gained my 1/2 inch in a week or so, all i was doing was stretching in circles for 10 minutes continously spinning here and there for circulation, then i would do 3 second wet jelqs for 20minutes THAT WAS IT for about a week. It was no wonder i hadn't gained a packing of beef girth wise because i never expanded the shit past 100%, so i just ended up stretching the innersheath length wise only.
peace
Well , I wanted to (stop lurking and ) add a little more material for the discussion of this "balooning technique"
So here goes : (quoted from actionlove.com
The Natural Penile "Enlargement" can be done by inflating the spongy cylinders in the penis with cooperating works of the Blood Circulation, Automatic Nervous (ANS), and Endocrine Systems. The principles and procedures are given in the attached graphs Pensruc.jpg (click here) and Enlarge.jpg(click here). Please read them carefully. This method has been copyrighted, but I disclose it for our readers' private use, not for commercial purposes. Basically, it will use a lot of bioelectricity in the parasympathetic, sexual nerves of the ANS to create an extreme hydraulic blood pressure inside the penile cylinders, while the Endocrine system continues to produce free testosterone to charge the ANS. You have to charge your ANS first by raising the testosterone level in your bloodstream. Let your ANS create a hydraulic blood pressure down there. Then, massaging the penis base and footing will direct the blood flow to expand the spongy cylinders to an extreme. I call this method "Ballooning Method". This method is an extension of my penis Power-up method that requires no herbal supplements.
----and even more :
Case Study - How to Practice the Natural Penile Enlargement for sexual orgasm!
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Reader: 9/18/1999>
Can you elaborate the Natural Penile Enlargement method?
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Dr. Lin: 9/19/1999>
The Ballooning Method is very simple.
http://www.actiontao.com/image/fig6-17b.jpg
or fig6-17b in Chapter 6 shows the massage stimulation zone. On the Yang (superior) side of the penile shaft, you have to massage the nerves as marked in green dots. Don't stimulate the urethra nerve (the green circle) which connects to the prostate's ejaculation control valve.
The success of this practice relies on
1. Hormone and NO levels - elevating your hGH, testosterone, and DHEA levels, balancing your estrogen level, and increasing the chemical Nitric Oxide (NO) concentration in your bloodstream to relax the penile tissues and arteries.
2. The ability to hold back ejaculation 3-5 times when ejaculation almost occurs. You have to train yourself to hold back ejaculation when you are about to ejaculate. You should apply a little pressure against your bladder and must contract your tailbone muscle when you are about to ejaculate.
Hormones feed the penile nerves and dilate the penile tissues for expansion. Hormone burning during sexual stimulation produces the super-potent hormone called dihydrotestosterone (DHT) to creates erection pressure from the groins and lower back (tail bone ),( as described in /cases/case8517.htm , updated 10/15/1999),
and bioelectrically supercharges the parasympathetic nerves in the pelvic cavity and the prostate to actuate the penile expansion. When the hormone-enriched blood fills up in the penile shaft, prostate and pelvic cavity, a penile expansion pressure grows up and the hidden section of the penis inside the body will be popped out. The popped-out section will be about 1-2", depending on your hormone and NO levels. You will feel an explosive pressure in the prostate area and the penis will become semi-numbed. Generally speaking, You must take advantage of the natural expansion force when ejaculation almost occurs. However, you must practice the Sexual Chikong Breathing to hold the ejaculation back for at least 3-5 times in every practice.
Step 1: Massage the groins/pubis and the penis footing and base to initiate erection.
Step 2: Massage the superior side of the penile shaft until ejaculation almost occur, but you must hold back with a deep anal breathing.
Step 3: then repeat Steps 1 and 2.
After 10-20 minute massage, you may be able to eliminate ejaculation without feeling uncomfortable.
You must massage the groins, perineum and tail bone to disperse DHT into your blood circulation after this practice. Don't let DHT be trapped in the prostate area. DHT can stimulate prostate enlargement, as it does for your penile enlargement. You must remove it by increasing the blood circulation around the prostate area.
If you are married, the best way to achieve the natural penile enlargement is intercourse which combines your and her sexual energies to balloon the penis. These procedures are given in Chapter 6, which shows many preferred love positions for the this practice. The sole stimulation zone for the penis during intercourse is shown in fig6-17b. Any high-attack angle love positions can do it. Stimulation of the male trigger zone must be avoided as shown in
http://www.actiontao.com/image/trigger.jpg.
Ok thats it. Obviously after reading this u will see where the threadstarter (MaxVeloc) gathered his information. Anyways lets not discuss all the DHT/hormone mumbojumbo , instead -
has anybody got the slightest idea on how to perform this balooning technique ?
MaxVeloc says he just reverse-kegels+tenses his lower abdomen muscles while having a 100% erection. Dr.Lins technique however also includes some massages and other things wich I don't quite understand.
Lets all try it out maybe its worth something !!! (Afterall its offered for free at Lins site, unlike all the other bullshit he tries to sell)
Well last but not least : Since its my first post , lemme quickly introduce myself :
I'm a russian currently living in Gemany , 21y , 195cm tall , been doing Penis Enlargement (+ gathering info @ all major Penis Enlargement sites) for the last 6 month ! Right now I'm @ 7.3 BPenis EnlargementL + 5.4 Girth wich was tons of work to get to in the frst place. Currently I'm on a heavy stretching routine (+ a girth routine every other day ) mainly focusing on length untill I get my 100% cemented 8" . Then I'd concentrate more on girth , till 6inch and quit my Penis Enlargement journey.
I'm open minded to any kind of Penis Enlargement , as long as its natural and not too dangerous for my unit. I made my girth gains with jelqs, base squeezes , and horses and length gains with manual stretching (A-Strecthes/V-Strecthes tunica specific stretches)
Well I guess thas about it. Nice to be here with so many intelligent people ! I think I'll get a little more involved in the future
So here goes : (quoted from actionlove.com
The Natural Penile "Enlargement" can be done by inflating the spongy cylinders in the penis with cooperating works of the Blood Circulation, Automatic Nervous (ANS), and Endocrine Systems. The principles and procedures are given in the attached graphs Pensruc.jpg (click here) and Enlarge.jpg(click here). Please read them carefully. This method has been copyrighted, but I disclose it for our readers' private use, not for commercial purposes. Basically, it will use a lot of bioelectricity in the parasympathetic, sexual nerves of the ANS to create an extreme hydraulic blood pressure inside the penile cylinders, while the Endocrine system continues to produce free testosterone to charge the ANS. You have to charge your ANS first by raising the testosterone level in your bloodstream. Let your ANS create a hydraulic blood pressure down there. Then, massaging the penis base and footing will direct the blood flow to expand the spongy cylinders to an extreme. I call this method "Ballooning Method". This method is an extension of my penis Power-up method that requires no herbal supplements.
----and even more :
Case Study - How to Practice the Natural Penile Enlargement for sexual orgasm!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reader: 9/18/1999>
Can you elaborate the Natural Penile Enlargement method?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Lin: 9/19/1999>
The Ballooning Method is very simple.
http://www.actiontao.com/image/fig6-17b.jpg
or fig6-17b in Chapter 6 shows the massage stimulation zone. On the Yang (superior) side of the penile shaft, you have to massage the nerves as marked in green dots. Don't stimulate the urethra nerve (the green circle) which connects to the prostate's ejaculation control valve.
The success of this practice relies on
1. Hormone and NO levels - elevating your hGH, testosterone, and DHEA levels, balancing your estrogen level, and increasing the chemical Nitric Oxide (NO) concentration in your bloodstream to relax the penile tissues and arteries.
2. The ability to hold back ejaculation 3-5 times when ejaculation almost occurs. You have to train yourself to hold back ejaculation when you are about to ejaculate. You should apply a little pressure against your bladder and must contract your tailbone muscle when you are about to ejaculate.
Hormones feed the penile nerves and dilate the penile tissues for expansion. Hormone burning during sexual stimulation produces the super-potent hormone called dihydrotestosterone (DHT) to creates erection pressure from the groins and lower back (tail bone ),( as described in /cases/case8517.htm , updated 10/15/1999),
and bioelectrically supercharges the parasympathetic nerves in the pelvic cavity and the prostate to actuate the penile expansion. When the hormone-enriched blood fills up in the penile shaft, prostate and pelvic cavity, a penile expansion pressure grows up and the hidden section of the penis inside the body will be popped out. The popped-out section will be about 1-2", depending on your hormone and NO levels. You will feel an explosive pressure in the prostate area and the penis will become semi-numbed. Generally speaking, You must take advantage of the natural expansion force when ejaculation almost occurs. However, you must practice the Sexual Chikong Breathing to hold the ejaculation back for at least 3-5 times in every practice.
Step 1: Massage the groins/pubis and the penis footing and base to initiate erection.
Step 2: Massage the superior side of the penile shaft until ejaculation almost occur, but you must hold back with a deep anal breathing.
Step 3: then repeat Steps 1 and 2.
After 10-20 minute massage, you may be able to eliminate ejaculation without feeling uncomfortable.
You must massage the groins, perineum and tail bone to disperse DHT into your blood circulation after this practice. Don't let DHT be trapped in the prostate area. DHT can stimulate prostate enlargement, as it does for your penile enlargement. You must remove it by increasing the blood circulation around the prostate area.
If you are married, the best way to achieve the natural penile enlargement is intercourse which combines your and her sexual energies to balloon the penis. These procedures are given in Chapter 6, which shows many preferred love positions for the this practice. The sole stimulation zone for the penis during intercourse is shown in fig6-17b. Any high-attack angle love positions can do it. Stimulation of the male trigger zone must be avoided as shown in
http://www.actiontao.com/image/trigger.jpg.
Ok thats it. Obviously after reading this u will see where the threadstarter (MaxVeloc) gathered his information. Anyways lets not discuss all the DHT/hormone mumbojumbo , instead -
has anybody got the slightest idea on how to perform this balooning technique ?
MaxVeloc says he just reverse-kegels+tenses his lower abdomen muscles while having a 100% erection. Dr.Lins technique however also includes some massages and other things wich I don't quite understand.
Lets all try it out maybe its worth something !!! (Afterall its offered for free at Lins site, unlike all the other bullshit he tries to sell)
Well last but not least : Since its my first post , lemme quickly introduce myself :
I'm a russian currently living in Gemany , 21y , 195cm tall , been doing Penis Enlargement (+ gathering info @ all major Penis Enlargement sites) for the last 6 month ! Right now I'm @ 7.3 BPenis EnlargementL + 5.4 Girth wich was tons of work to get to in the frst place. Currently I'm on a heavy stretching routine (+ a girth routine every other day ) mainly focusing on length untill I get my 100% cemented 8" . Then I'd concentrate more on girth , till 6inch and quit my Penis Enlargement journey.
I'm open minded to any kind of Penis Enlargement , as long as its natural and not too dangerous for my unit. I made my girth gains with jelqs, base squeezes , and horses and length gains with manual stretching (A-Strecthes/V-Strecthes tunica specific stretches)
Well I guess thas about it. Nice to be here with so many intelligent people ! I think I'll get a little more involved in the future
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Max,
You sound like a verbatim rattling of that "Dr." Lin's site, with his "penile ballooning" stuff.
I don't buy that shit; nor do I buy your fast & easy generalizations - such as bodybuilders having small cocks, weightlifting causing hair loss, or the amount of DHT during puberty being responsible for cock size.
Your cock size is genetic. You can enlarge it through Penis Enlargement, but DHT doesn't "determine" your natural cock size. And as far as training, I trained like a lunatic, am now 38, and have a full head of hair. Like DLD, I also eat like shit & don't exercise anymore, yet I've never lost any hair.
You sound like a verbatim rattling of that "Dr." Lin's site, with his "penile ballooning" stuff.
I don't buy that shit; nor do I buy your fast & easy generalizations - such as bodybuilders having small cocks, weightlifting causing hair loss, or the amount of DHT during puberty being responsible for cock size.
Your cock size is genetic. You can enlarge it through Penis Enlargement, but DHT doesn't "determine" your natural cock size. And as far as training, I trained like a lunatic, am now 38, and have a full head of hair. Like DLD, I also eat like shit & don't exercise anymore, yet I've never lost any hair.
Yeah, his touting has shown up here and other forums too. MaxVeloc, if you are getting your information there take a good look at his site. He sells products for everything from hair loss to repair products for Penis Enlargement. "Dr" Lin is a quack and if you buy into it, he'll gladly take you for every penny you have. The only method that truly works is exercise...Thats it. No pills, wonder drugs, ballooning will replace good old fashion work. If you believe, I wish you all the luck in the world. Your gonna need it.
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that's great advice to go by, but people have also said that about bodybuilding, where steroids make a world of difference. im not really comparing the two, just saying that it's possible there could be a magic solution, but ya doesnt look like it right now. No harm in looking though!
WaxN and mowinman said it best. Listen, if optimalizing your hormonal milieu by increasing T, DHT, GH and reducing estrogen were as easy as pretending to take a shit, we wouldn't need hormone replacement therapy (HRT), bodybuilders wouldn't need steroids, and we could literally reduce many of the genetic differences in libido, muscle mass, mood and depression etc.
We should all practice kegels and reverse kegels, and expect better blood flow, erection- and orgasm control. But a 130-140% enlargement in a matter of days or weeks...
We should all practice kegels and reverse kegels, and expect better blood flow, erection- and orgasm control. But a 130-140% enlargement in a matter of days or weeks...
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Alright lets please calm down.
thanks.
Just lets be open about new things wether some think its bullshit or not, let it be investigated and dont use such hostile...this MaxVeloc is NEW here and all hes gotten is a hostile reception cos of this stuff he's mentioned which is not heard of before...or if it has peeps think its shit.
Lets remain open-minded and accept peoples views.
Respond back in the best mature manner you can.
thank you.
thanks.
Just lets be open about new things wether some think its bullshit or not, let it be investigated and dont use such hostile...this MaxVeloc is NEW here and all hes gotten is a hostile reception cos of this stuff he's mentioned which is not heard of before...or if it has peeps think its shit.
Lets remain open-minded and accept peoples views.
Respond back in the best mature manner you can.
thank you.
WHOA!
I think everyone needs to chill.
This guy brings a new exercise which IMO won't live up to these kind of expectations. Yet this guy is being slammed! Give a guy a break, everyone's had there say by now, most of the time maybe too much to say. But just coz we don't or won't embrace his ideas doesn't mean ridicule is in order.
I think everyone needs to chill.
This guy brings a new exercise which IMO won't live up to these kind of expectations. Yet this guy is being slammed! Give a guy a break, everyone's had there say by now, most of the time maybe too much to say. But just coz we don't or won't embrace his ideas doesn't mean ridicule is in order.
It's ok I dont give a shit what they think...their problem not mine...anyways i was thinking I this method would only be beneficial to people who have high pressure, or in other words the ones who are able to bring it up past 3 oclock. I have never been able to do this under 100%. im thinkin the better circulation you had as a child through puberty, the better erections you will develop, therefore you are able to open up to better expansion?
and YES 130-40% is very possible to achieve in just a few seconds...im sorry i am capable of that hehehehe.
I just thought i'd share that for some peopel who may have had alot of difficulty and not seeing what is expected.
Im starting a new routine, instead of both girth and length on the same day ill start with length, but in week intervals. So i'll see how this goes, i WANT that length spurt again so badly!!! ahhhh.... please i need that 8 by xmas...ahh(hah yea right)
and YES 130-40% is very possible to achieve in just a few seconds...im sorry i am capable of that hehehehe.
I just thought i'd share that for some peopel who may have had alot of difficulty and not seeing what is expected.
Im starting a new routine, instead of both girth and length on the same day ill start with length, but in week intervals. So i'll see how this goes, i WANT that length spurt again so badly!!! ahhhh.... please i need that 8 by xmas...ahh(hah yea right)
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