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DLD im not sure if you've known of this method before but hear me out. After researching on how the penis works i found this method where after the 1st stage erection (100%) there is a 2nd stage erection where the chambers are filed past their limits to the range of (130-140) without even touching your dick.

OK how it works the goal here is to trap the local DHT within the cells of the penis while they are expanded to the fullest, thus stimulaiting it to grow many times that of say a horse squeeze because when you horse squeeze you only pressurize the base up. This method expands the ENTIRE shaft within the body causing it to come out and expand more and more(read wher some cases exceed 3in by just this). It's amazing but extremely hard to. You must squeeze your lower abominal muscles and muscles back by your tailbone, basically when you try to shit real hard and hold it you wlll feel very lightheaded, but your penis will become longer and longer and feel extremely tight( lil more than that of a horse squeeze). What this is doing is pushing the entire shaft out and the entire shaft's chambes to become that balloon blown up more and more growing receptors each time.

I suggest you add this after a good hard workout for both length and girth, for say about 10 minutes to start. Since these cells are already worked you can trap th DHT needed for making it grow. BTW DHT is a superhormone, you might want to know about it's benfits to the entire body as well. With doing this over extended periods of time you will restiulate the same kidn of growth you get in the puberty years, which are the years of the highest levels of DHT and DHT receptors and hGH. When you create an increased DHT stimulation in th penis it begans to grow these rectors within the cells, so the more you have basically the larger your penis is able to grow. I find this information very fascinating and helpful and i hope eveyrone can benefit form it..esp you red haha you need that new girth spurt. Hel if you did this form the beginning you could have been 7in girth by half the time lol woohhh

I just now started tyring this and so far i feel great. my erections become much fuller. Also for you hard gainers this shoudl spark the much needed growth that you need in your workouts, but i must sya again like growing msucle tissue you need to emphasize your diet, eating alot of vedgies and protein foods help considerably, this is very important for growing.


so tell me what you think of this idea and it helps you out a bit... I hope i explaind it well enough :)

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Last I heard, DHT was what is making my hair go thin...which I've started taking Propecia for a couple weeks ago...and also what causes most cases of Prostate Cancer. DHT is FAR from a "superhormone with benefits for the entire body". I dont know where you got your info from man. You make some pretty wild claims too. I just cant see how this could work like you hypothesize. Cable clamps cause the penis to swell beyond normal erection level when used properly.
 
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SWM,

I'm very intrested to hear your Propecia results (both stopping hair loss and any adverse side effects.) Would you keep me informed?

puff
 

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I would like to welcome you MaxVeloc..ignore SWM hes just gotten outta bed rofl J/K
I am open-minded about this...I would like more on it if you can and some in-depth if you would.

I am sure 'av'' heard of this before....Hydromaxmmm...was it Balooning? now some say BS...but I am open as I said so hit me.:fight:
 

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These aren't claims, it's the damn truth so try to tell me what exactly makes a penis grow...that's right you don't know haha

BTW when you get that DHT in your penis doesn't mean you get it in your head...it's very specific to an area. you alreayd get those receptors in your scalp by aging, this is why it damages the blood circulation up there because you have too many receptors. Now will ya stop the bitchin already and face the facts....damn boy.. you got issues.

oh yes and about the prostate thing you get receptors there too and this causes inflammation and extra pressure and thus you have a stronger urge to ejaculate after working the PC muscles , it's a big mess down there when you do this....might want to go flush that shit out with vedgies my man ... that's why normaly guys who workout and eat well have cleaner scalps with less build up, therefore they dont lose as much hair quite as quickly

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that's why normaly guys who workout and eat well have cleaner scalps with less build up, therefore they dont lose as much hair quite as quickly

peace

Hydromaxmm not true in my case. I eat like total shit, I hate to bathe and I have hair that goes to my ass and is thick enough to use as a pillow. My hairline is the same as it was when I was 18. I am now 37 go figure.
 
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SWM,

I'm very intrested to hear your Propecia results (both stopping hair loss and any adverse side effects.) Would you keep me informed?

puff
Sure will puff!
 
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These aren't claims, it's the damn truth so try to tell me what exactly makes a penis grow...that's right you don't know haha

BTW when you get that DHT in your penis doesn't mean you get it in your head...it's very specific to an area. you alreayd get those receptors in your scalp by aging, this is why it damages the blood circulation up there because you have too many receptors. Now will ya stop the bitchin already and face the facts....damn boy.. you got issues.

oh yes and about the prostate thing you get receptors there too and this causes inflammation and extra pressure and thus you have a stronger urge to ejaculate after working the PC muscles , it's a big mess down there when you do this....might want to go flush that shit out with vedgies my man ... that's why normaly guys who workout and eat well have cleaner scalps with less build up, therefore they dont lose as much hair quite as quickly

peace
I didnt really deserve such an immature reply. But then again maturity comes with age. So does tact with what you say. I am also a moderator here. Not a threat, but do watch your future replies and how you say things to the members here. Especially the moderators. We're here to keep things running smoothly and to keep this place at the TOP of the Penis Enlargement forums. After four years of experience with Penis Enlargement, I do have a very basic grasp of what makes a penis grow. From my personal experience, that has been WORK. Not hormones. Sure, there are hormones that are released during puberty that encourage penis growth. That exact combination of hormones though...as far as I know has not been pinpointed though. Guys who work out usually have higher testosterone levels and are actually more prone to thinning hair. My working out during my time in the Marines is probably partially responsible for my thinning hair.

Welcome aboard. I hope you enjoy your time here....with more mature replies. (Strike one)
 

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Interesting thread. Do you do this while you're erect or just after you're finished with a workout? Sounds like a reverse kegel to me that's held for longer periods of time?

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yea you can do it whenever, personally for me it's harder after a workout because your dick is already torn up making it harder to expand the cells...i would only guess it's my theory that after a workout the trapping of DHT would increase growth stimulation, i guess we'll all have ot see if that's true.

also if you hold it whil squeezing hard and i mean hard let's just hope you don't gotta go or bad things will happen lol. Usually i can ge it to expand 1/2 to an inch in length and maybe 1/2 and inch of girth at full expansion. try to relax as much as possible this is ging to take alot of practice at first you will strain yourself but i'm sure it's veyr much worth it, since i use science on my side.

but yes THIS IS why you get bigger is DHT receptors PURELY , since men that age lose them and their erections decrease along with less DHEA in order to have an erection. I know also that genetics play a role in hair loss and penis size as well. it's all the right combination of hormones at the right times. Serotonin levels also play a HUGE role in holding back ejaculation and stress hormones inhibit it. This is why older men continue to have problems with decreased erections and premature ejaculation, simply less seratonin, DHEA and DHT levels which is also why the penis shrinks with age. The penis is largest at the end of puberty and if you think about it, it makes perfect sense, holding true that DHT is at it's highest in the male body during these years. This explains why people have been witnessing the younger generation growing at faster rates, it's all there.

STW i guess you're right.. immaturity goes with age lol
but i guess im not an easy guy either just lucky i'm not the guy who beats the shit outa of someone for looking at him wrong.
I got no problems with you, just kind of pissed me off you keep running down what i have to say and i understand your views are simply..simple which is the way go in most cases. I mean i agree with you on that just work hard and you get things done but i just saw that Penis Enlargement can be very well researched in order to maybe bring it to advancement exactly as DLD is doing and doing it very successfully

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wow I just learned something, very fascinating... the more muscle mass and fiber strength gaining(pesent tense because the growth at the same time) from lifting weights can actually slow your penis growth due to competition between receptors for testosterone, hGH and the final burning of testosterone for DHT.

So Penile size is all based on the availibility of DHT and it's density in the penis throughout puberty, NPenis Enlargement increases growth recpetors there in the penis(which we all know already) hahaaa so cool.

So to simply put males with less DHT through puberty end up having smaller penises. Also a big no no is to overtrain with weights and a poor diet while doing Penis Enlargement because working you muscles too much will deplete your testosterone and DHEA left for your penis to recuperate you will actually end up injuring your penis and temporarily being impotent :( but thats still cool to know

So now all I have to do is maintain a steady diet with good amounts of protein(not loads of it) good fat to carb ratios with minimal weight training just to maintain my muscle mass.

Well that also explains why poeple say bodybuidlers have small dicks because they have so much testosterone being burned in their muscles and not enough to support their dicks and thye shrink...that realy sucks for them.. im mean me..yes i am getting out of bodybuilding now for Penis Enlargement purposes :)

peace people
 
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Hey Max a little heads up. Man do be careful with the straining. I was doing that a few months back and wound up with an inflamed engorged varicocele in the left testicle. Thats a $1000.00 dollar mistake I won't make again.
 

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woha thanks for the warning, i think ill try control that straining....sounds very painful :/..esp the bill

yea good advice thats why they were saying to keep as relaxed as possible.
 
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hey max - could you please explain a little more about what exactly triggers the hormone release, why it is localised to the penis, ect? i'm not saying it's not possible, i'm just not so hot with the biochem, i don't understand how a hard pelvic flex at peak erection will trigger off a localized hormone disharge. where does the hormone originate? also, would body building really be detrimental to penis size? i know muscular stress causes the body to release a ton of testosterone, is this superhormone a derivative of testosterone, sympathetic? i'm only asking questions because it's interesting. i know i could get off my ass and research a little too, but i'm a full tiem student, and hence unfailingly lazy by defenition. thanks.
 

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no problem would be very happy to explain:)

first off these receptors respond to changes in the system hence the release of testosterone which is in turned burned into DHT to sort of update the cells there in accordance to the change ( jelqing, balloning etc.)

it's very complex actually i'm tying to name off the entire works of these biochemical reactions

the testosterone bursts and charges the parasympathetic sexual nerve for a production burst of the neurotransmitter Nitride Oxide (NO) and its erection dilator cGMP. Also your liver plays a role in this(get off the alcohol!), because it releases enzymes aiding in the burning of testosterone into DHT. This is why you become less of a man when you dirnk, it kills the production of testosterone significantly, again slowing your gains. When you balloon your penis up to 140% it balloons to the maximum volume availible by your foreskin, so the growth of foreskin would aid in enlargening your penile shaft underneath. The ballooning simply to put it, forces in excessive DHT causing it to expand, but will eventually come down to normal size but with more receptors and over time expand to larger sizes. The thing is this process isn't instant it takes time for your penis to respond to these changes depending on your age and how much testosterone there is flowing in that area. Yes, DHT is a derivative of tesosterone, it is burned where changes or stresses occur. The more testosterone , the more DHT you are able to create, thus decreasing the time it takes to grow your penis to a certain size.

Now we get into the nervous systems function. IN your penis , there exists parasympthetics nerves(sex drive nerves) they respond to the chemical Acetylcholine the linkage to the entire nervous system. They work together with dopamine, parasympthetic and endocrine functions, without them the penis will eventually shrink. It is important have a healthy nervous system. The sex system is also directly connected to the brain, so he health of the brain is crucial to your entire nervous systems health. Of course any healthy male and i know many of you are, have a good amount of these chemicals. So don't worry about this unless you are suicidal and have daily migraines and are on antidepressants, high blood pressure drugs etc.....weed lol

I would alse like to point out another issue, the cardiovascular systems needs to be strong in order to support more penile volume, this is why it is rare to see an 8 inch penis pointing in the 2 o clock and above position(unless the base is considerably thicker) and this penis that points up past 2 oclock(mine points 12oclock) is superior to the 3 oclock penis in stimulating pleasure for the woman, as it hits her epicenter(pocket of pleasure) 4-6 inches inside. this is stil possible for the 3 oclocker , it is just moe difficult having less pressure and being softer. But im going off topic hehe. Well i hope i explained some of it more thoroughly. :)

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Originally posted by MaxVeloc
wow I just learned something, very fascinating... the more muscle mass and fiber strength gaining(pesent tense because the growth at the same time) from lifting weights can actually slow your penis growth due to competition between receptors for testosterone, hGH and the final burning of testosterone for DHT.

So Penile size is all based on the availibility of DHT and it's density in the penis throughout puberty, NPenis Enlargement increases growth recpetors there in the penis(which we all know already) hahaaa so cool.

So to simply put males with less DHT through puberty end up having smaller penises. Also a big no no is to overtrain with weights and a poor diet while doing Penis Enlargement because working you muscles too much will deplete your testosterone and DHEA left for your penis to recuperate you will actually end up injuring your penis and temporarily being impotent :( but thats still cool to know

So now all I have to do is maintain a steady diet with good amounts of protein(not loads of it) good fat to carb ratios with minimal weight training just to maintain my muscle mass.

Well that also explains why poeple say bodybuidlers have small dicks because they have so much testosterone being burned in their muscles and not enough to support their dicks and thye shrink...that realy sucks for them.. im mean me..yes i am getting out of bodybuilding now for Penis Enlargement purposes :)

peace people
Like you and most men here, I dont know all the details of the different hormones produced by the male body and how they "may" impact Penis Enlargement...but from what I seem to recall reading and hearing over the last several years, NOBODY has proven for FACT which exact combination of 'key' hormones cause the penis to grow during puberty or for that matter, how to reproduce this growth after puberty. Contrary to what you said above, as men age...DHT levels INCREASE and tend to become more concentrated in certain areas of the body like the hair follicles on the scalp and in the prostate gland. More so if you already have a genetic predisposition to this. You cannot alter these DHT levels with exercise or by masturbating more. I'm sorry man, I am not attacking you or trying to belittle what youre saying...its' just that you need to do a lot more research on your "facts" before you post them as such.

Penis size is not increased through Penis Enlargement by hormones. Hormones have nothing to do with skin and tissues being expanded by increased blood pressure in the penis through Penis Enlargement exercises like squeezes or jelqing. Nor do they have anything at all to do with skin and tissues being stretched over time with resistance. To say there was a direct correlation would be like saying that when a doctor cuts a person's leg bones, drills rods into them and then through traction stretches this person's legs over the course of many months...several inches longer....it's all, or even partially because of hormones that the legs get longer. Same thing when a person stretches their lips, earlobes, or other skin on their body. Horomones are not causing the skin to stretch . It's resistance and time. :D.

Loss of penis size with age is USUALLY a result of things like poor diet, lack of use or lessened use (less sex for example), and just plain, poor penis health from plaque build up in the penis arteries which means less blood flow. More so than a cause of hormones or a lessening of hormones. These causes are seen as "normal" though for the average aging man and most doctors are more than eager to prescribe you some Viagra for your ED rather than to tell you to change your diet or do some jelqing to improve your penis health and blood flow.

I'm always up for a good, mature debate. However, when some new guy joins the forum, acts like he has the next big Penis Enlargement idea thats going to totally revolutionize things and then attacks people who criticize what he says because they want to see if he really knows what he's talking about (I've yet to meet an 18 year old endocrinologist by the way)...that's when I have to say something.
 
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By the way, youre really starting to sound like this former member of Thundersplace....Jones something or another who started a thread on a very similar topic....except it was about how a testosterone patch could magically grow your penis with almost NO Penis Enlargement. Hmm.....
 

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haha no im no jones guy, never even been to thundersplace :/

Well that is true DHT DOES in fact increase in those certain areas as age increases; however, it does not with the penis unfortunately:( but I am merely speaking of only the penis and sex drive.

Yes, it is normal but i would try to avoid being prescibed viagra, but instead i would try and avoid that if possible. I agree with you on that issue where men do not take care to their own penis as age increases and the possibility of the penis's health deteriorating even more... it is a sad case but in yours it is not sad hehe we know how to prevent all of those problems or almost all.

Also i would think yes the skin would grow to accomidate to whatever resistance there is (stretching , jelqing etc.) but like DLD siad the penis is not a rope it is merely a balloon.

haha no i'm not trying to revolutionize anything , i'm just here to help everyone understand what is possible for the own sake of our learning and advancement.

it's just I find information like this fascinating and wish to study on it and tell it to everyone else. Make a few suggestions here and there, just to help :)

I am continuing to learn more on this topic and i don't believe i'll COMPLETELY understand why a certain chemical does what, for I am still only in high school :/... I wish though
 
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yea, heh i can be a real jerk sometimes My apologies SWM...i'm sure everyone could be, but yes thankyou very much for the welcome Red that's what i need here :)

I am hoping everyone has a better understanding how the penis works now and to see better gains at least because i'm working on getting nice and big like everyone else here too.

hope to hear from you guys

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You sound quite knowledgeable, however, what you say about working out and testosterone/dht production runs counter to everything else that I have read. For example, resistance training stimulates testosterone and GH production. This has been proven time and time again. It is one of the reasons why older bodybuilders (not the ones on steroids) maintain a more youthful appearance. If you are speaking about overtraining having a deleterious effect on hormonal output, then I would agree.
I am not saying that you are wrong...your ideas are interesting. I have just never heard anything remotely like this and would be interested in being able to verify some of your statements.
I am in my mid 40's. I train with weights religiously. I still have 18.5" arms and a 51" chest. My penis girth has increased from 6" to 7". I have a hard time believing your hypothesis.
(I also use propecia and rogaine to keep my hair)
 

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