Possible breakthrough in PE

Waxn the Gorilla thing as I have said MANY MANY times was a joke...BRITISH sense of humour my freind...we are known for it.
As for you and me being mature with oneanother well that will always be hard as we dont like oneanother, but lest try to keep our hatred/differencses to PM please.

Originally posted by REDZULU2003
As for you and me being mature with oneanother well that will always be hard as we dont like one another, but lest try to keep our hatred/differencses to PM please.

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Red,
I think you started the animosity, not me. If I made a mistake it was by openly responding to your size post, where you repeatedly sought responses.
I think you have a huge unit and you know a lot about Penis Enlargement - especially girth - and I think you try to help whomever you can. I'm sorry, but I just didn't see 7.5" girth in your picture (still don't). Not when I've seen treepapaniner (regularwhiteguy) pics of his freakish thickness.
After I responded that I questioned your measurement techniques (such as post-pumped, etc.), you've been on my shit ever since.
Furthermore, others in this forum have also doubted that you use "standard" measuring practices. All I've said is that if you claim such huge girth, take a pic with a measuring tape. If you prove me wrong, I'm man enough to admit it & apologize to you - out here in the open forum.
Do my doubts mean that I "hate" you????

nah not at all,
Again like the Gorilla in the mist drama I have forgotten about the dougt with my size...I alreay said this.
I helped you on an injury your supposed to have had remember I have no beef with you mate.
I said this before so I will say it again ''I dont give a fuck anymore if people belive me or not....FUCK UM''
Now leave the past in the past...we rarely speak to each other anyway so lets keep it at that.
PM me of ya want to talk-MORE.
But all this is off topic, I myself have gone off

Originally posted by MaxVeloc
im sorry i am capable of that hehehehe.

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What's your view on posting pics of this?

Originally posted by ICM
What's your view on posting pics of this?

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Yeah, I'd be curious to see this myself.
130-140%??????

yeah, i have tried not to jumo in as a naysayer . . . but increasing the volume of your penis by more than a third instantly by flexxing . . . doesn't amke any sense physically. it just doesn't work like that.

as many people around here know, the size is limited by the tough tunica material, even if this action did release some kind of hormone infusion that wouldn't all of a sudden turn the tunica and other materials in the penis into spandex . . .

Hi,
I'm a bit familiar with Lin's ballooning method. You can definitely get a stronger erections when understanding the technique but you won't get a 140% bigger dick instantly. 120% at most. Listen, it's simply a way to get very aroused locally, nothing more.

Max'' post some pictures before and after with this magic method being done....just to show us this 130-140% increase and alot here including myself are finding it hard to imagine this.

Originally posted by WaxN
Max,
You sound like a verbatim rattling of that "Dr." Lin's site, with his "penile ballooning" stuff.
I don't buy that shit; nor do I buy your fast & easy generalizations - such as bodybuilders having small cocks, weightlifting causing hair loss, or the amount of DHT during puberty being responsible for cock size.
Your cock size is genetic. You can enlarge it through Penis Enlargement, but DHT doesn't "determine" your natural cock size. And as far as training, I trained like a lunatic, am now 38, and have a full head of hair. Like DLD, I also eat like shit & don't exercise anymore, yet I've never lost any hair.

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Oh my gawd, all my text books are wrong about DHT???? Dr. Waxn, what do you assume is responsible for your natural size? Masturbation????

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niceone 8''

Originally posted by 8 isn't enough
Oh my gawd, all my text books are wrong about DHT???? Dr. Waxn, what do you assume is responsible for your natural size? Masturbation????

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Dr. 8,
It's genetically determined. Is DHT also responsible for your height, eye color or shoe size? Furthermore, your other generalizations were full of shit.
Speaking of "doctors," Lin's doctorate is in something like marine biology, his papers had to do with oceanic wave research or something or other. Look up his resume. I ask, what the hell does his particular field of expertise have to do with penis functioning. I checked out Lin's site months ago, with an open mind, and found it to be supplement-peddling bullshit. He tosses around alot of biological terms, supplements and wacko theories, then hardballs his supplements.
I tried his ballooning method, but it did nothing for my size. Penis Enlargement, however, has increased my penile volume by about 70%. So, 130-140% instantly? No way. But, 170% over about 13 months? Yes.

One more point: DHT blockers are used in attempts to restore lost hair. If an abundance of DHT was the determining factor in penis size, then big-dicked men would be bald, & bushy-topped men would be tiny - again, more bullshit.

Originally posted by WaxN
Dr. 8,
It's genetically determined. Is DHT also responsible for your height, eye color or shoe size? Furthermore, your other generalizations were full of shit.
Speaking of "doctors," Lin's doctorate is in something like marine biology, his papers had to do with oceanic wave research or something or other. Look up his resume. I ask, what the hell does his particular field of expertise have to do with penis functioning. I checked out Lin's site months ago, with an open mind, and found it to be supplement-peddling bullshit. He tosses around alot of biological terms, supplements and wacko theories, then hardballs his supplements.
I tried his ballooning method, but it did nothing for my size. Penis Enlargement, however, has increased my penile volume by about 70%. So, 130-140% instantly? No way. But, 170% over about 13 months? Yes.

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"Micropenis can occur in children with androgen receptor defects or 5-alpha reductase deficiency (failure of conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone [DHT]). Most children with these defects have varying degrees of incomplete labioscrotal fusion, resulting in hypospadias and genital ambiguity."

http://www.emedicine.com/Penis EnlargementD/topic1448.htm

Sexual Development in a Two-Year-Old Boy Induced by Topical Exposure to Testosterone

"Virilization, including penile enlargement and growth of pubic hair and facial acne, developed in a 2-year-old boy over a period of months. This sexual development was induced by incidental and unintentional dermal exposure to a testosterone cream that was applied to his father's arm and back as a part of body building regimen. Except for penile size, the other signs of virilization diminished several months after the exposure was discontinued. "

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/104/2/e23

"The change depends on a testosterone product released in male fetuses called dihydrotesterone, DHT. The change is completed at week twelve. Without DHT, the genitals of the fetus will develop into female structures."

http://daphne.palomar.edu/psycsoc125/HSClass/anatomy_ts/pages/m_anat.html

"5-Alpha Reductase is the enzyme that facilitates the conversion of testosterone to another hormone, dihydrotestosterone (DHT). When a genetic male is deficient in 5-Alpha Reductase, the powerful DHT hormone is not produced. While testes and Wolffian ducts do exist, the male external genitals are similar in size to those of a normal female. If left intact, an adult 5-Alpha Reductase Deficiency individual will appear generally male but with small genitals and no facial hair."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/gender/spectrum.html

"The development of the male reproductive ducts and external genitalia in vertebrates is dependent on elevated androgen concentrations during embryonic development and the period of postnatal growth. We have observed that a population of juvenile alligators living on Lake Apopka exhibit significantly smaller penis size (24% average decrease) and lower plasma concentrations of testosterone (70% lower concentrations) when compared to animals of similar size on Lake Woodruff. In addition to smaller phalli, no relationship exists between plasma testosterone concentrations and penile size in males from Lake Apopka, whereas a positive relationship exists for males from Lake Woodruff. The alligators on Lake Apopka are known to have elevated concentrations of the antiandrogenic DDT breakdown product p,p'-DDE stored in their fat. We suggest a number of hypotheses that could explain the modification in the phenotype of the juvenile male living in Lake Apopka. These modifications in phenotype include a smaller penis size, lower plasma androgen concentrations, and lack of responsiveness of the penis to the plasma androgens present. "

http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/Alligator-Penis-Apopka-Guillette.htm

Your never going to win a Jeopardy round with such little research. Read man.....Reading is Fun-damental!!!

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8,
I've read more in my lifetime already than you probably ever will - and not only in English.
Furthermore, you've wrongly cited examples of people who suffer from genetic anomalies, attempting to draw parallels with otherwise normal, healthy individuals.
You also seem to be positing that you believe that the introduction of DHT into post-pubescent males will have an effect on penile development (if I understand your interest correctly). I am convinced that penile size, and all other "natural" aspects of the human body are genetically determined at the moment of conception. Of course, the mother's health/diet has a profound shaping effect upon the developing fetus. Early childhood is also a crucical time for healthy development. But, please, show me even one shread of clinical evidence that post-pubescent supplementation of DHT - or any other substance mentioned (and sold by) Dr. Lin - will affect a change on penile size, and you've silenced me.
Citing clinical anomalies does not draw any conclusive findings on healthy men. Dr. Lin has not made his case, nor have you.
By the way, I don't watch games shows - or other TV, for that matter. I usually am too busy with more constructive activities. But I'll defer to your expertise in TV game shows.

Originally posted by WaxN
One more point: DHT blockers are used in attempts to restore lost hair. If an abundance of DHT was the determining factor in penis size, then big-dicked men would be bald, & bushy-topped men would be tiny - again, more bullshit.

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This goes back to androgen sensitivity and many, many other variables. Some take steroids and keep their hair no matter how long they use them. Others, have MPB during the first cycle (poor guys).

I want people to know the truth here. I didnt care at all about this thread until you started playing Dr. I only corrected your false statements and now I'm done. I dont care who Dr. Lin is personally. I dont thing DHT will increase size after puberty but DHT did control your size before Penis Enlargement.

I'm done now cause I have finals to study for.

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It's quite simple, really...Like most systems in the body, correcting a deficiency is far different from supplying supraphysiological amounts of something. Think of it as an inverted bell curve, where the apex is considered "normal" or optimal. Correcting a DHT and/or testosterone deficiency will lead to normal growth (take you from the far left of the curve to the apex), but it is highly doubtful that supraphysiological amounts of DHT during prepubescence would lead to a larger penis. But you've peaked my curiousity, and I will look into this further.

cant we just get along.:fight:

Originally posted by Blade
It's quite simple, really...Like most systems in the body, correcting a deficiency is far different from supplying supraphysiological amounts of something. Think of it as an inverted bell curve, where the apex is considered "normal" or optimal. Correcting a DHT and/or testosterone deficiency will lead to normal growth (take you from the far left of the curve to the apex), but it is highly doubtful that supraphysiological amounts of DHT during prepubescence would lead to a larger penis. But you've peaked my curiousity, and I will look into this further.

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Check out Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia. It is a very interesting read. Penis size is said to be enormous at as early as age 11.

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Originally posted by WaxN
I am convinced that penile size, and all other "natural" aspects of the human body are genetically determined at the moment of conception.

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Not quite. There is no question that growth hormone (GH) grows new muscle cells and increases bone size/length, it is scientifically proven and is witnessed in adult users.

Check out Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia. It is a very interesting read. Penis size is said to be enormous at as early as age 11.

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I saw a sex sense program once on Discovery channel and this episode was on penis size.
Anyway it had a 5 year old that had a penis the size of a adult male....it was normal sized from what they said but this kid was at puberty, with hair on him at 5 years old.
HTF can someone argue with that??????
Girls from India have been known to have kids as young as 7 years old.