Question Girth question (- Will semi-erected bundles be enough?)

kriskros said:
can I achieve this you are saying with MOSRED? 10 or 15 mins?
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Not really. You need to be so close to MOSRED in order to get the heat penetration that I'm talking about.
As I said, in my mind MOSRED is for after session. Because you need to be close to it in order for it to have any effect.

You could also do 15 minutes MOSRED treatment first, and then do this warmup with LengthMaster 3, but then you need to make sure that your room temperature is really warm. I recommend that your room temperature is at: ~30°C/86°F.

You will kill your sperm (temporary), with the heating fan method, but you will gain fast when your tissue (penis + inner penis) are really heated up, before, after and during session. This is the reason I prefer to pump with hot/warm water (don't burn yourself).
 
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squirt_inducer_man said:
Not really. You need to be so close to MOSRED in order to get the heat penetration that I'm talking about.
As I said, in my mind MOSRED is for after session. Because you need to be close to it in order for it to have any effect.

You could also do 15 minutes MOSRED treatment first, and then do this warmup with LengthMaster 3, but then you need to make sure that your room temperature is really warm. I recommend that your room temperature is at: ~30°C/86°F.

You will kill your sperm (temporary), with the heating fan method, but you will gain fast when your tissue (penis + inner penis) are really heated up, before, after and during session. This is the reason I prefer to pump with hot/warm water (don't burn yourself).
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I understand.
What if MOSRED is 4 inches close to my penis? does this work?
 
DLD said:
Give it a shot and let me know how it goes
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Yesterday did:
1. Bundled Stretches (5 mins)
2. MOSRED 10 mins -- 5 inches away
3. Drunk this product 2 hours prior to girth routine https://gr.iherb.com/pr/naturesplus-keto-living-natural-collagen-1-36-lbs-616-g/103460

Result:: True Expansion of 0.4' without any water retention, without my skin feel doubled. It was just 0.4' but it was real.

Today did:
1. Bundled Stretches (5mins)
2. MOSRED 10 mins

Result:: 0.55' expansion witch seems to have water retension as my skin is bigger than usual

My problem is having erections. This is my problem. 2day..... it was so difficult for me to have erection.

Maybe I should go for as many hours as i can for cockring ??? I am just asking
 
kriskros said:
Maybe I should go for as many hours as i can for cockring ??? I am just asking
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Be safe and attempt to cycle on new blood every 10 minutes. Do not exceed 10 minutes. I hate to suggest 10 minutes because you have your conditions, but I prefer 5 minutes at max. Blood clot tends to form around 10 minutes. For some, it's as early as 2 minutes.
 
kriskros said:
Maybe I should go for as many hours as i can for cockring ??? I am just asking
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Go for 30 minutes and the rest of the time use this pel.wrap.

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In this thread I will post all my videos for more easy access for the brotherhood. Here is a list of links to all the video instructions existing in this thread: Broomstick routine - Beginner routine. LENGTHMASTER 3 - Beginner routine. Downward Bundled Stretches with the LENGTHMASTER 3. Bundled...
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With this wrap your penis will both be elongated and a little expanded. This have worked for me. The key is the optimal tightness of all the layers.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Go for 30 minutes and the rest of the time use this pel.wrap.

Video thread - SIM's videos and instructions.

In this thread I will post all my videos for more easy access for the brotherhood. Here is a list of links to all the video instructions existing in this thread: Broomstick routine - Beginner routine. LENGTHMASTER 3 - Beginner routine. Downward Bundled Stretches with the LENGTHMASTER 3. Bundled...
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With this wrap your penis will both be elongated and a little expanded. This have worked for me. The key is the optimal tightness of all the layers.
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If I wrap my penis won't it kill my girth routine ?
 
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kriskros said:
If I wrap my penis won't it kill my girth routine ?
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Wrapping after post pump expansion routine to force gaps for cell replication and cell repair. The wrap there after will assist with cell expansion through elongation. It still part of the growth process. Elongated cells become bigger, break the smaller ones down during the next routine to integrate them together, and cycle continues.

It will not kill your girth routine.
 
oldandlively said:
Wrapping after post pump expansion routine to force gaps for cell replication and cell repair. The wrap there after will assist with cell expansion through elongation. It still part of the growth process. Elongated cells become bigger, break the smaller ones down during the next routine to integrate them together, and cycle continues.

It will not kill your girth routine.
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Smart answer 👌
 
kriskros said:
If I wrap my penis won't it kill my girth routine ?
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No. What does this mean?
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squirt_inducer_man said:
With this wrap your penis will both be elongated and a little expanded. This have worked for me. The key is the optimal tightness of all the layers.
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It means that you will cement your gains.
Elongated + Expanded, for a long time (all day long) => Fast gains.
 
DLD said:
Of course
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Okay, I want to make sure.
When we do Girth Work, it is beneficial to put the silisleeve after the cockring.
This way, we will gain faster.
Can you please let me know for how much time?
Please confirm
 
kriskros said:
Okay, I want to make sure.
When we do Girth Work, it is beneficial to put the silisleeve after the cockring.
This way, we will gain faster.
Can you please let me know for how much time?
Please confirm
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I recommend you to read SRT/listen to SRT.

And yes it's important to keep your penis
elongated and expanded for growth. This is the healing portion of SRT.

Time?
All day long you should keep your penis elongated in a penis elongation wrap or a sleeve. Not when you are sleeping.

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squirt_inducer_man said:
I recommend you to read SRT/listen to SRT.

And yes it's important to keep your penis
elongated and expanded for growth. This is the healing portion of SRT.

Time?
All day long you should keep your penis elongated in a penis elongation wrap or a sleeve. Not when you are sleeping.

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SRT Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory HUGE SPECIAL ON EQUIPMENT https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/s-r-t-bundle-package Why do some gain penis size and others struggle in penis enlargement? Yes, we can ask this question a million times and get a million theories, none that...
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@DLD says

"If we are trying to elongate or thicken something, we need to not only do the proper exercises to break down the tissue for growth, but we need to never suppress its size after training. Some men may experience turtling, some men may naturally shrink when flaccid. Many are squished into tight underwear where suppression is at its worst."
He says: but we need to never suppress its size after training
When I have expansion after girth routine, putting a silisleeve doesn't suppress its size?

P.S - If possible fix all internal links here Essential - SRT: The Fastest Way to a Massive Penis and a Perfect Body or else please let me know where I can download the dvd.
 
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kriskros said:
He says: but we need to never suppress its size after training
When I have expansion after girth routine, putting a silisleeve doesn't suppress its size?
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This is where your confusion is. Let's break it down just a wee bit more.

Expansion and elongation after pumping:
After your routines, if you're going for length, you want to keep it elongated as long as you can. Key phrase is, "as long as you can". If you performed the routines in the morning, keep the elongation process in wraps or anti-turtling method as best as you can, while not constricting the blood flow. If you look at the wrap methods for healing processes, they are not to the point where you cut off blood circulation. This is the worst thing you can ever do.

If you chase after girth, expansion (not elongation) keeps the penis in a state where the cellular tissues either increase in sizes or duplicate to fill in the missing gaps. During this period, you need to keep your fresh blood flowing. Without fresh blood, you're in trouble.

Morning vs night time routines with post elongation and expansion:

In the morning and throughout the day, you know you have less restriction on either to be in commando mode, use cock ring, sleeve, or whatever devices you want. However, at night time, if you haven't noticed, we emphasized on rest, and total freedom for the penis. 6 hours is the bare minimum for total penis rest, and your rest phase. No stresses, no tugging or pulling, no pump, no fatigues.

It does not counter the "never suppress its size after training" statement. Make sure you have sufficient amount of time to allow post training elongation and expansion. Example, if you're going to sleep at 10PM, do your routine around 8PM. As a beginner, 30 minutes of stretching routines and 30 minutes of pumping routine. That will fatigue your penis to death. 60 minutes of post elongation and expansion routine to get the blood in. While you prep yourself to go to bed, such as hygeinic routine, keep the cock ring/penis sleeve on, based on what you're chasing after (girth or length, or both). If your chase girth and length, cock ring. If you're dedicating to length, DuroSleeve.

When you're about to shut your eyes, take everything off and rest. Allow your brain and body to enter into their resting phase. Your cells will continue to repair and reset. Your penis may enter into its turtling state to conserve energy, but that's fine. You're allowing the cell to recharge on their energy lost during the day and the prior routine. This is part of the healing and charging state for your body.

24 hours vs 18 hours wearing:

This ma be controversial to some extent, but I'll provide both. I used both, based on what I'm chasing after as well. 18 hours is typical for constant explosive growth. If you're doing only light works, such as ADS without any extra routine, one 5x5x3 per day, then yes, 18 hours is your normal day. If you're going intensely like our brothers SIM, Infected Mushroom, Huge Girth, ManPlan86, and a few others that attempt to break the penis barriers, the routine time is much less in the 6 to 8 hours category.

However, this is me and a few that tried, we wear a loose, emphasized "loose" thick wall penis sleeve. The thick wall penis sleeve allows the penis structure to remain elongated while sleep, without any constriction and restriction. To prevent slippage because the penis will try to its way to shrink and retract, gentle wraping using silicon/medical rubber theraband or non-sticky wrap at the base of the glans allow the glans from slipping through the loose DuroSleeve/thick wall penis sleeve. This allows the penis to remain passively in its elongated flaccid state. There is no traction force. There is no gap creation. But, the warning in the other post is to keep your crotch area warm and aerated. No underwear. In the elongated passive flaccid state, you're mirroring the body's natural semi-erection where blood constantly flow into the penis. It helps to maintain deliver the essential materials for the cells to continue repair, with the addition assistance of blood flow promotion using this passive elongation process. This is the 24 hours PE routine method. I use this method when I'm on my rest day. Total rest day that is. I tend to do this after a very intense night time length workout as well. But this is just me, pushing by penis to go on a 24/7 healing process.

Hope that clears up all the misunderstanding from. We can expand on the subject even more if there are further confusion.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
I recommend you to read SRT/listen to SRT.

And yes it's important to keep your penis
elongated and expanded for growth. This is the healing portion of SRT.

Time?
All day long you should keep your penis elongated in a penis elongation wrap or a sleeve. Not when you are sleeping.

View media item 1780

Essential - SRT: The Fastest Way to a Massive Penis and a Perfect Body

SRT Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory HUGE SPECIAL ON EQUIPMENT https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/s-r-t-bundle-package Why do some gain penis size and others struggle in penis enlargement? Yes, we can ask this question a million times and get a million theories, none that...
mattersofsize.com mattersofsize.com
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Excellent post 📫
 
oldandlively said:
This is where your confusion is. Let's break it down just a wee bit more.

Expansion and elongation after pumping:
After your routines, if you're going for length, you want to keep it elongated as long as you can. Key phrase is, "as long as you can". If you performed the routines in the morning, keep the elongation process in wraps or anti-turtling method as best as you can, while not constricting the blood flow. If you look at the wrap methods for healing processes, they are not to the point where you cut off blood circulation. This is the worst thing you can ever do.

If you chase after girth, expansion (not elongation) keeps the penis in a state where the cellular tissues either increase in sizes or duplicate to fill in the missing gaps. During this period, you need to keep your fresh blood flowing. Without fresh blood, you're in trouble.

Morning vs night time routines with post elongation and expansion:

In the morning and throughout the day, you know you have less restriction on either to be in commando mode, use cock ring, sleeve, or whatever devices you want. However, at night time, if you haven't noticed, we emphasized on rest, and total freedom for the penis. 6 hours is the bare minimum for total penis rest, and your rest phase. No stresses, no tugging or pulling, no pump, no fatigues.

It does not counter the "never suppress its size after training" statement. Make sure you have sufficient amount of time to allow post training elongation and expansion. Example, if you're going to sleep at 10PM, do your routine around 8PM. As a beginner, 30 minutes of stretching routines and 30 minutes of pumping routine. That will fatigue your penis to death. 60 minutes of post elongation and expansion routine to get the blood in. While you prep yourself to go to bed, such as hygeinic routine, keep the cock ring/penis sleeve on, based on what you're chasing after (girth or length, or both). If your chase girth and length, cock ring. If you're dedicating to length, DuroSleeve.

When you're about to shut your eyes, take everything off and rest. Allow your brain and body to enter into their resting phase. Your cells will continue to repair and reset. Your penis may enter into its turtling state to conserve energy, but that's fine. You're allowing the cell to recharge on their energy lost during the day and the prior routine. This is part of the healing and charging state for your body.

24 hours vs 18 hours wearing:

This ma be controversial to some extent, but I'll provide both. I used both, based on what I'm chasing after as well. 18 hours is typical for constant explosive growth. If you're doing only light works, such as ADS without any extra routine, one 5x5x3 per day, then yes, 18 hours is your normal day. If you're going intensely like our brothers SIM, Infected Mushroom, Huge Girth, ManPlan86, and a few others that attempt to break the penis barriers, the routine time is much less in the 6 to 8 hours category.

However, this is me and a few that tried, we wear a loose, emphasized "loose" thick wall penis sleeve. The thick wall penis sleeve allows the penis structure to remain elongated while sleep, without any constriction and restriction. To prevent slippage because the penis will try to its way to shrink and retract, gentle wraping using silicon/medical rubber theraband or non-sticky wrap at the base of the glans allow the glans from slipping through the loose DuroSleeve/thick wall penis sleeve. This allows the penis to remain passively in its elongated flaccid state. There is no traction force. There is no gap creation. But, the warning in the other post is to keep your crotch area warm and aerated. No underwear. In the elongated passive flaccid state, you're mirroring the body's natural semi-erection where blood constantly flow into the penis. It helps to maintain deliver the essential materials for the cells to continue repair, with the addition assistance of blood flow promotion using this passive elongation process. This is the 24 hours PE routine method. I use this method when I'm on my rest day. Total rest day that is. I tend to do this after a very intense night time length workout as well. But this is just me, pushing by penis to go on a 24/7 healing process.

Hope that clears up all the misunderstanding from. We can expand on the subject even more if there are further confusion.
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So, when you want length you heal in elongated form for as much as you can and when you want girth you just wear the cockring for as long as you can. This is what I understood, right? You do NOT wear sleeve after Girth routine and cockring. Am I right?

You have to understand that I am very new to this and all this technical analysis confuses me a little bit.
 
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