Why is it so hard for people to realize penis enlargement works?

Uh, the beginning of that tape measure is almost two inches too high from where he's suppoed to start, making him closer to 7" as opposed to 9". Anyone else see what I'm seeing?

Anyone who has a tape measure: GET IT. Pull your pants down and take the metal end and pull it up past where you're SUPPOSED to start the measurement JUST LIKE in this pic. Adds almost 2 inches.

No BPenis EnlargementL pics still. It's unbelievable. If anything, he's a shower who just gets hard and doesn't grow. With all of the videos of him on Bang Bros getting "measured" front the front, with some of the tape measure off screen, etc., I would hope if he really was AT LEAST 9-9.5 he would take a BPenis EnlargementL but he won't. I wouldn't even care about all this except that Ramone will not get measured like this on a movie camera, APPROPRIATELY measured, and we are all about true gains, true measurements, REALITY! He's also endorsing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. If he's really 9-9.5 when erect, why can't he get measured BPenis EnlargementL the right way on film?

I just saw one of DLD's pics: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19300

DLD isn't even a adult entertainment star, and he's willing to at least do a BPenis EnlargementL. DLD is willing to do it. And I know these pics of Ramone's are DLD's. AND I'm not saying he isn't big. But right there in THIS PIC OF RAMONE he's cheating. The only reason I'm not calling DLD out is because there may be OTHER pics he took of BPenis EnlargementL. BPenis EnlargementL, especially when someone is helping out, is the easiest to take. I just don't get it.

This is just another buffer for my points of focus with the posts I've been making in this thread. There are 13 inchers out there; I don't give a shit. I'm focused on myself with my Penis Enlargement and know that 9" is MASSIVE! I just hate when this kind of bs is pushed as reality. Really really sucks.
 
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PS: Two more things:

1. Please please please don't even go there with "Stevie's just a hater". I posted DLD's 11 inch dong, didn't I, and as you can see from the pic, there's NOTHING to debate! TRUE MEASUREMENT! REAL MEASUREMENT! No pulling the ruler two inches up and over, no tape measure hiked up almost two inches, no [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] boxes titled in one direction, NO BULLSHIT etc.

With all the requests I had for a true BPenis EnlargementL pic on here, none of you (with the exception of the man who emailed me this link) came up with one, which means you probably didn't know it existed. I have nothing against Ramone (who is hilarious and I enjoy him very much), Castro, ANY of these guys; with everything I hold dear in my life (and I am VERY superstitious), I'm happy for anyone who can make a living fucking girls on camera and this is NOT an ego thing for me; I obviously know the exercises work, DLD used them to get to where he is (as evidenced by the pic) and we ALL can DO IT. With hard work, we can ALL get adult entertainment STAR HUGE! I'm just doing EVERYTHING I can to keep this whole measurement thing real.

Also, not to mention, as I wrote about in YOU ARE MUCH BIGGER THAN YOU REALIZE, I know someone who's a big adult entertainment producer who ALSO says that Ramone (and Mandingo) are no where near as big as they claim, but I obviously can't prove this, so you can take it with a grain of salt or not.

2. WHATEVER Ramone's size is, he didn't use DLD's exercises to get that big, so why is HE endorsing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]? This is why we need to help DLD out more by getting real Before and After BPenis EnlargementL/Erect Girth photos and make a page here on the forum AND ON mattersofsize.com
 
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Confusing misspellings/missing words in last two posts (Hey, I'm a fuckin' English major!):

First Post:

"measured" FROM the front

"The only reason I'm not calling DLD out is because there may be OTHER pics he took of RAMONE THAT ARE BPenis EnlargementL."

Second Post:

"no [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] boxes TILTED in one direction TOTALLY NOT IN PROPORTION TO THE DICK"

And my point about Ramone endorsing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] was that, ultimately, it would make much more of a difference and bring more business to DLD if Ramone was 6 inches and THEN GREW to 8. Or if we had, say, 10 people who had before and after pics here.
 
stevie7inch;327498 said:
Uh, the beginning of that tape measure is almost two inches too high from where he's suppoed to start, making him closer to 7" as opposed to 9". Anyone else see what I'm seeing?

Anyone who has a tape measure: GET IT. Pull your pants down and take the metal end and pull it up past where you're SUPPOSED to start the measurement JUST LIKE in this pic. Adds almost 2 inches.

No BPenis EnlargementL pics still. It's unbelievable. If anything, he's a shower who just gets hard and doesn't grow. With all of the videos of him on Bang Bros getting "measured" front the front, with some of the tape measure off screen, etc., I would hope if he really was AT LEAST 9-9.5 he would take a BPenis EnlargementL but he won't. I wouldn't even care about all this except that Ramone will not get measured like this on a movie camera, APPROPRIATELY measured, and we are all about true gains, true measurements, REALITY! He's also endorsing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. If he's really 9-9.5 when erect, why can't he get measured BPenis EnlargementL the right way on film?

I just saw one of DLD's pics: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19300

DLD isn't even a adult entertainment star, and he's willing to at least do a BPenis EnlargementL. DLD is willing to do it. And I know these pics of Ramone's are DLD's. AND I'm not saying he isn't big. But right there in THIS PIC OF RAMONE he's cheating. The only reason I'm not calling DLD out is because there may be OTHER pics he took of BPenis EnlargementL. BPenis EnlargementL, especially when someone is helping out, is the easiest to take. I just don't get it.

This is just another buffer for my points of focus with the posts I've been making in this thread. There are 13 inchers out there; I don't give a shit. I'm focused on myself with my Penis Enlargement and know that 9" is MASSIVE! I just hate when this kind of bs is pushed as reality. Really really sucks.
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I still say you should keep looking. Here are some more I found at a quick glance: http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=42539

They may not be exactly what you're looking for, but lil12big1's pics are exceptionally clear, and the steel ruler is a nice touch for authenticity.
 
If I can find them, maybe I will post my last set of measurements, I think they were the clearest ones I have ever seen and measurements were with a steel ruler.
 
stevie7inch;327505 said:
GOOD PICS, Al.

Please comment on Ramone's pic in relation to what I had to say about it if you have the time. Much appreciated.
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The first 3/4 of an inch or so of the tape appear to be pressed upwards on his body, but you should consider that he only appears to be semi-erect. I wouldn't doubt it if his measurements were in the 10"+ range. That already puts him in the "enormous" category. Couple that with his extreme leanness and it looks truly monstrous.
 
DLD!

In no way, shape or form am I saying YOU are full of shit: I listed a link to your BPenis EnlargementL pic!

As you just stated in the other thread (MOS shoot), "BPenis EnlargementL (for Ramone) would be scary"? Actually, no it wouldn't. It would be the appropriate measurement for a adult entertainment star! The "measured" Ramone pic you listed in this thread has about a 2 inch handicap! I've called everyout to do the same kind of measurement and hold the end of the tape measure like he does.
 
Hi I am new in this forum and with pumping, my foreskin grew one inch, and I am now 7 1/2 x 6 around, any advice on what pump is the best? thank you.:)
 
foreskinmpls;327513 said:
Hi I am new in this forum and with pumping, my foreskin grew one inch, and I am now 7 1/2 x 6 around, any advice on what pump is the best? thank you.:)
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Welcome! You can find a lot of good information on pumping HERE.
 
Big Al;327511 said:
The first 3/4 of an inch or so of the tape appear to be pressed upwards on his body, but you should consider that he only appears to be semi-erect. I wouldn't doubt it if his measurements were in the 10"+ range. That already puts him in the "enormous" category. Couple that with his extreme leanness and it looks truly monstrous.
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Al,

First off, when you watch Ramone's movies, notice how he ISN'T 10" when fully erect. Mandingo is close to, if not, 10". AND, if you are a fan of Bang Bros like I am, you'll also notice that he is always fraud-measured (there are videos of this for both him and Castro on this site for one) and when THOSE inaccurate measurements are taken, he is "shown" to be 10" full erect, so, sorry Al, but Ramone isn't 10" BPenis EnlargementL.

Secondly, and readers correct me if I'm wrong, but "3/4 of an inch" of tape measure is a very generous calculation, especially since he has almost 2 inches of tape AT MINIMUM "pressed upward" on his body! Give me a break! EVERYONE, please comment on this!

Thirdly, as ANYONE who watches Ramone's movies can attest to, he is a SHOWER, not a GROWER. He is pretty much as large semi-erect as he is fully erect. For anyone who doubts this, please go to www.monstersofcock.com and watch the previews he is in. YOU WILL see these b.s. measurings by these girls if you look at enough previews. So the picture you and I are referring to, Al, "consider that he is only semi-erect" doesn't fly. He's that large when erect.

And finally, as everyone knows, being extremely lean (as Ramone is and as Al states above) makes large penises look much bigger than they are in real life.

If he WAS 10" then, yes, that's Enormous. But he isn't, and I wish that this b.s. stopped.

For the real deal, to show that I'm not full of shit, look at one of DLD'S ORIGINAL THREADS!:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23312&highlight=ramone

Take a look at all of the pics with RULER measurements:

1. Notice the ONE PIC (#32 if you count from left to right down) of Ramone measured with a ruler, FULLY ERECT: the end of the ruler is off camera. Measures 9" when he REALLY is less than.
2. Notice the difference when you see the OTHER guy measured: #43. A full measurement shown COMPLETELY on camera. The ENTIRE RULER.
3. And finally, the paper towel roll: Everybody grab one and grab a ruler. The first of two pics from above: you measure your paper towel roll (universal size is 11" long) and YOU tell ME how long he is in that picture. I'll even give him an INCH handicap because it's an inch from his body (the roll at the most that far from his body, which has zero body fat <no fat pad/no extra inside>): 8". Look at her fingers and hold the roll like she's holding his you know what: 8" max.

THEN look at the second of two pics: from the side. Take your thumb and forefinger and measure what is left of the universal-sized paper roll. Ramone is measuring, in relation to the 11" roll, at 7". Add one inch for the inch (no fat pad) of distance from the base in the pic. 8"

What's more convincing: the paper roll or the falsely measured ruler pic? If he was 9", 10"? RULER TIME! And the WHOLE RULER, like the other guy, would be showing! Why, during a adult entertainment shoot, isn't Ramone, fully erect, measured with a ruler like the other guy?

Wake up people! This is why people are conned at how big adult entertainment stars are and believe that they are way bigger than they are. Not to say 8" isn't big! But not 9" OR 10" OR 11". I'd love to see Mandingo get the same scrutiny, but I can't find a single measurement, false or accurate, of him.

PS: Please read how most of the posters in that thread are, well, skeptical. They have details as to why. Read em'.
 
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stevie7inch;327520 said:
Al,

First off, when you watch Ramone's movies, notice how he ISN'T 10" when fully erect. Mandingo is close to, if not, 10". AND, if you are a fan of Bang Bros like I am, you'll also notice that he is always fraud-measured (there are videos of this for both him and Castro on this site for one) and when THOSE inaccurate measurements are taken, he is "shown" to be 10" full erect, so, sorry Al, but Ramone isn't 10" BPenis EnlargementL.

Secondly, and readers correct me if I'm wrong, but "3/4 of an inch" of tape measure is a very generous calculation, especially since he has almost 2 inches of tape AT MINIMUM "pressed upward" on his body! Give me a break! EVERYONE, please comment on this!

Thirdly, as ANYONE who watches Ramone's movies can attest to, he is a SHOWER, not a GROWER. He is pretty much as large semi-erect as he is fully erect. For anyone who doubts this, please go to www.monstersofcock.com and watch the previews he is in. YOU WILL see these b.s. measurings by these girls if you look at enough previews. So the picture you and I are referring to, Al, "consider that he is only semi-erect" doesn't fly. He's that large when erect.

And finally, as everyone knows, being extremely lean (as Ramone is and as Al states above) makes large penises look much bigger than they are in real life.

If he WAS 10" then, yes, that's Enormous. But he isn't, and I wish that this b.s. stopped.

For the real deal, to show that I'm not full of shit, look at one of DLD'S ORIGINAL THREADS!:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23312&highlight=ramone

Take a look at all of the pics with RULER measurements:

1. Notice the ONE PIC (#32 if you count from left to right down) of Ramone measured with a ruler, FULLY ERECT: the end of the ruler is off camera. Measures 9" when he REALLY is less than.
2. Notice the difference when you see the OTHER guy measured: #43. A full measurement shown COMPLETELY on camera. The ENTIRE RULER.
3. And finally, the paper towel roll: Everybody grab one and grab a ruler. The first of two pics from above: you measure your paper towel roll (universal size is 11" long) and YOU tell ME how long he is in that picture. I'll even give him an INCH handicap because it's an inch from his body (the roll at the most that far from his body, which has zero body fat <no fat pad/no extra inside>): 8". Look at her fingers and hold the roll like she's holding his you know what: 8" max.

THEN look at the second of two pics: from the side. Take your thumb and forefinger and measure what is left of the universal-sized paper roll. Ramone is measuring, in relation to the 11" roll, at 7". Add one inch for the inch (no fat pad) of distance from the base in the pic. 8"

What's more convincing: the paper roll or the falsely measured ruler pic? If he was 9", 10"? RULER TIME! And the WHOLE RULER, like the other guy, would be showing! Why, during a adult entertainment shoot, isn't Ramone, fully erect, measured with a ruler like the other guy?

Wake up people! This is why people are conned at how big adult entertainment stars are and believe that they are way bigger than they are. Not to say 8" isn't big! But not 9" OR 10" OR 11". I'd love to see Mandingo get the same scrutiny, but I can't find a single measurement, false or accurate, of him.

PS: Please read how most of the posters in that thread are, well, skeptical. They have details as to why. Read em'.
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This thread sure has veered off into quite a tangent.

If you're that bent on disproving adult entertainment stars' claimed measurements, you're going to be a very busy man. IMO, the angle makes it a bit unclear exactly as to where the end of the tape is. My statement is pure estimation based on what I can see. I'm not familiar with the adult entertainment movies he stars in so you may be entirely correct about whether or not he grows/doesn't grow.

Unless he's claiming that he got his gains from Penis Enlargement, he's irrelevant to the subject of this thread.
 
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Big Al;327542 said:
This thread sure has veered off into quite a tangent.

If you're that bent on disproving adult entertainment stars' claimed measurements, you're going to be a very busy man. IMO, the angle makes it a bit unclear exactly as to where the end of the tape is. My statement is pure estimation based on what I can see. I'm not familiar with the adult entertainment movies he stars in so you may be entirely correct about whether or not he grows/doesn't grow.

Unless he's claiming that he got his gains from Penis Enlargement, he's irrelevant to the subject of this thread.
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Not BENT on disproving adult entertainment stars claims. Check my threads. I've DISPROVED Ramone's. Did you look at the above link in the above post of a DLD THREAD where it's obvious how full of shit Ramone and the BB's are? You just commented on the tape measure pic. And EVERYBODY ON HERE talks ALL THE TIME about how big adult entertainment stars are, including DLD, so that "bent on" comment doesn't make sense to me.
 
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Big Al;327504 said:
I still say you should keep looking. Here are some more I found at a quick glance: http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=42539

They may not be exactly what you're looking for, but lil12big1's pics are exceptionally clear, and the steel ruler is a nice touch for authenticity.
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BTW Al, these pics at Thunders are much more like it. It's important for everyone here to have clear measurements: the fact that a adult entertainment star isn't taking exact measurements is important for all of those who use these guys for metal Penis Enlargement motivation. That's why I've been so persistent about Ramone and DLD. I emailed you a more specific response to your post.

I am just trying to scrape away the bullshit, that's all. In the last month, I've gained almost half an inch in BPenis EnlargementL, I know that if I keep working at it I'll get to 9": in other words, I'm happy and positive and HAVE NO NEED to be jealous because I'm GETTING BIGGER. I've got nothing against these adult entertainment stars: I DO have something against the bullshit angles, fish eye lenses, etc, that the behind the scenes guys use to make men insecure and fucked in the head about what is real, what is normal, what is big. That's all I'm trying to do, and I think, as objectively as I can be, that in this thread I've done that. Peace.
 
I think it's Ramone's GIRTH that makes him appear "monstrous" to some viewers--plus his skinny body.

Stevie,

It IS true that many newcomers post adult entertainment pic dicks to get a reaction for whatever reason from the other members. It gets tiresome after a while. They would do themselves a favor to just focus on their own dicks, or for "real" motivation, some of the others' members "reborn" dicks. We sure have our share of them here. I guess if these adult entertainment guys' "big" dicks motivate the viewers to work to improve themselves, so be it.

adult entertainment eventually just doesn't cut it. I like my own version of adult entertainment--i.e., my own fantasies. :P I get my best erections from them.

I hope we get this before and after thread going real soon, with better measurement pics. I think it would be a great benefit to the site.
 
goinfor11x7;327546 said:
I think it's Ramone's GIRTH that makes him appear "monstrous" to some viewers--plus his skinny body.

Stevie,

It IS true that many newcomers post adult entertainment pic dicks to get a reaction for whatever reason from the other members. It gets tiresome after a while. They would do themselves a favor to just focus on their own dicks, or for "real" motivation, some of the others' members "reborn" dicks. We sure have our share of them here. I guess if these adult entertainment guys' "big" dicks motivate the viewers to work to improve themselves, so be it.

adult entertainment eventually just doesn't cut it. I like my own version of adult entertainment--i.e., my own fantasies. :P I get my best erections from them.

I hope we get this before and after thread going real soon, with better measurement pics. I think it would be a great benefit to the site.
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Thanks for the wise words. yes, the reason I started posting on this thread was to make a Before and After thread for true gains with true BPenis EnlargementL/Erect Girth measurements.

The Ramone thing just gets me pissed off. And I don't know why, since the b.s. with him is so obvious in the last link I posted, that no one is commenting (they commented big time in the thread link I posted on how the measurements were b.s.), so maybe no one cares. I will stop caring.
 
stevie7inch;327544 said:
Not BENT on disproving adult entertainment stars claims. Check my threads. I've DISPROVED Ramone's. Did you look at the above link in the above post of a DLD THREAD where it's obvious how full of shit Ramone and the BB's are? You just commented on the tape measure pic. And EVERYBODY ON HERE talks ALL THE TIME about how big adult entertainment stars are, including DLD, so that "bent on" comment doesn't make sense to me.
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I did check out that link as you suggested. By "bent" I was referring to your zealousness in trying to disprove Ramone's claims. It wasn't meant to be offensive so I hope you didn't take it that way.

stevie7inch;327544 said:
BTW Al, these pics at Thunders are much more like it. It's important for everyone here to have clear measurements: the fact that a adult entertainment star isn't taking exact measurements is important for all of those who use these guys for metal Penis Enlargement motivation. That's why I've been so persistent about Ramone and DLD. I emailed you a more specific response to your post.

I am just trying to scrape away the bullshit, that's all. In the last month, I've gained almost half an inch in BPenis EnlargementL, I know that if I keep working at it I'll get to 9": in other words, I'm happy and positive and HAVE NO NEED to be jealous because I'm GETTING BIGGER. I've got nothing against these adult entertainment stars: I DO have something against the bullshit angles, fish eye lenses, etc, that the behind the scenes guys use to make men insecure and fucked in the head about what is real, what is normal, what is big. That's all I'm trying to do, and I think, as objectively as I can be, that in this thread I've done that. Peace.
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Glad you like the pics. I think it's a good idea to use adult entertainment stars' spurious claims as motivation for your own efforts. Just note that the world of adult entertainment is fueled by fantasy. Any measurement claims made by adult entertainment stars are likely to be exaggerated.

BTW, congratulations on your gains!
 
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Err.....

As they were saying, Penis Enlargement really does work. I can finaly measure 8 inches with a BP measurement. When I fucked my girl doggie style the other night after not having been allowed to go deep for some time do to health reasons, I completely bottomed out. She even told me that she was sore.

If I can gain two inches so can anyone else. The main thing is technique. If you aren't doing it right you won't gain.
 
AdmiralLongDong;327578 said:
Err.....

As they were saying, Penis Enlargement really does work. I can finaly measure 8 inches with a BP measurement. When I fucked my girl doggie style the other night after not having been allowed to go deep for some time do to health reasons, I completely bottomed out. She even told me that she was sore.

If I can gain two inches so can anyone else. The main thing is technique. If you aren't doing it right you won't gain.
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To paraphrase the great William James: You don't have to find 1,000 pink and blue striped bunnies living in the wild to PROVE that pink and blue rabbits exist; you only have to find ONE. He used this as an argument in support of proof of an afterlife (reincarnation evidence cases, mediumship, near-death experiences, etc). So if ONE of those Before And After pics are for real, Penis Enlargement is for real.

Hey ALD,

How did you gain two inches? Is there a link here to your routines? I'm assuming you mean 2" of BPenis EnlargementL?

Stevie
 
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Well here it goes...

I have been paying close attention to this thread after someone asked me to.

This thread is what i usually call a "gun powder barrel", it can lead to very a very positive outcome while making things a bit unconfortable and raise some feathers for some dudes out there that may or may not have been truthfull on their measurements and Penis Enlargement status.

I have started Penis Enlargement myself a while ago, although always half-assed. I was intense with it for about six months and then i slacked off and have been on a cruise velocity of a few jelqs and stretches since then.

I have posted my inicial pics on here, don't know if they survived the GUI change made recently here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] but they should be on some server archive i would figure.

I have also posted correctly measured pics after my inicial gains that at the time were about an inch if i remember correctly. Having started Penis Enlargement at 6.5BPenis EnlargementL x 6.5MSEG, at the time of the pics i was about 7.5BPenis EnlargementL x 7MSEG.

The veterans here may remember my pics, maybe not.

All in all, i have had this feeling once, then i stoped caring about it. Like Stevie and many others, along with myself, there is always room for doubt, suspition and disbeliefe when it comes to such a sensible topic such as dick size.

I have seen many blatantely faked pics ranging from the mere lousy photoshop jobs with repeating veins and spots to very well made ones.

On the other hand i have seen very few convincing pics on here, or anywhere else for that matter, of real growth. They are hard to comeby it seems. I have been called out myself on some pics and having better things to do, i ignored it the best i could and just kept on living with myself and my size, which is much more than i ever thought i'd sport one day. That day is now, the proof is in the pudding, i know what i have, the girls whoom have seen it, touched it and played with it all attested to it being well...very,very big. So that, for me, is more than enough, that is my pudding.

I am now in a position where i can find more time for dedicating myself to this, not for growing 20 more inches but to help whoomever needs it. That's it.

I have enourmous amounts of respect for many people here like DLD or BigAl or GoingFor11X7, people i have become used to recognize as brothers on here, along with many other friends i made along this crazy Penis Enlargement trip.

Having said this, i believe Stevie is showing curiosity and is trying to apply the scientific method on what it concerns proof of gains. I agree that that is just what we need to end this real/fake crap. In the end, if you do lie, you lie to yourself.

BPenis EnlargementL is what i feel as the most accurate and consistent way of measuring because the pubic bone is the limit, the speed brake, if you will, on the whole enchilada. It remains in a fixed position, unlike the fat-pad, and is always in the same place ( redundant i know ). Just make sure you always measure in the same manner, either do it standing, seated or whatever, do it the same way all the time and that will provide for consistent gauging of true size gain, or lack of gain. This is a hot topic on itself mind you, many flames have been thrown my way just because i don't really see the point in NBPenis EnlargementL measuring, if your fat levels fluctuate, so will the size of your dick, the bone however, is always in the same place and is the limit for penetration. Fat-pads aren't solid, they are flubbering fat, crazy soft, it should stop noone from going all in unless there is no room inside the girls pussy or the dick is crazy huge.

I bottom out easy in all positions these days, there is always a part of it left out in the cold, what is the point? None. That is why i need no more. I like having sex more than i like breathing so i don't need to give my gf an argument for NOT having sex should i? "It's too big and it hurts" is something i wished i haven't heard before so i'll just leave it at this.

I am no monster, i have what i have, it is quite a bit but no monster.

I will be taking pics, measured ones, and post them here because i have no problem in letting people know my true size. In not a lesser man if i don't have a 10 or 11 incher, am i? Nope, she still loves it AND me and that is all i really need.

Peace

Mike
 
stevie7inch;327592 said:
...To paraphrase the great William James: You don't have to find 1,000 pink and blue striped bunnies living in the wild to PROVE that pink and blue rabbits exist; you only have to find ONE. He used this as an argument in support of proof of an afterlife (reincarnation evidence cases, mediumship, near-death experiences, etc). So if ONE of those Before And After pics are for real, Penis Enlargement is for real.
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That's it in a nutshell. It would be great if more people thought that way.

stevie7inch;327592 said:
Hey ALD,

How did you gain two inches? Is there a link here to your routines? I'm assuming you mean 2" of BPenis EnlargementL?

Stevie
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Is this question for me?

If so, I did mostly basic jelqs and stretches the first 4 weeks or so, then transitioned to more intense exercises. That's 2 inches BPenis EnlargementL. I have a routine similar to the one I did outlined here: http://peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8528 .

Try to start with a comfortable rep/intensity load and slowly increase until you're using the maximum number of reps outlined. Don't go beyond that- just increase the frequency every 2 weeks as outlined.
 
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8InchMIKE;327594 said:
Well here it goes...

I have been paying close attention to this thread after someone asked me to.

This thread is what i usually call a "gun powder barrel", it can lead to very a very positive outcome while making things a bit unconfortable and raise some feathers for some dudes out there that may or may not have been truthfull on their measurements and Penis Enlargement status.

I have started Penis Enlargement myself a while ago, although always half-assed. I was intense with it for about six months and then i slacked off and have been on a cruise velocity of a few jelqs and stretches since then.

I have posted my inicial pics on here, don't know if they survived the GUI change made recently here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] but they should be on some server archive i would figure.

I have also posted correctly measured pics after my inicial gains that at the time were about an inch if i remember correctly. Having started Penis Enlargement at 6.5BPenis EnlargementL x 6.5MSEG, at the time of the pics i was about 7.5BPenis EnlargementL x 7MSEG.

The veterans here may remember my pics, maybe not.

All in all, i have had this feeling once, then i stoped caring about it. Like Stevie and many others, along with myself, there is always room for doubt, suspition and disbeliefe when it comes to such a sensible topic such as dick size.

I have seen many blatantely faked pics ranging from the mere lousy photoshop jobs with repeating veins and spots to very well made ones.

On the other hand i have seen very few convincing pics on here, or anywhere else for that matter, of real growth. They are hard to comeby it seems. I have been called out myself on some pics and having better things to do, i ignored it the best i could and just kept on living with myself and my size, which is much more than i ever thought i'd sport one day. That day is now, the proof is in the pudding, i know what i have, the girls whoom have seen it, touched it and played with it all attested to it being well...very,very big. So that, for me, is more than enough, that is my pudding.

I am now in a position where i can find more time for dedicating myself to this, not for growing 20 more inches but to help whoomever needs it. That's it.

I have enourmous amounts of respect for many people here like DLD or BigAl or GoingFor11X7, people i have become used to recognize as brothers on here, along with many other friends i made along this crazy Penis Enlargement trip.

Having said this, i believe Stevie is showing curiosity and is trying to apply the scientific method on what it concerns proof of gains. I agree that that is just what we need to end this real/fake crap. In the end, if you do lie, you lie to yourself.

BPenis EnlargementL is what i feel as the most accurate and consistent way of measuring because the pubic bone is the limit, the speed brake, if you will, on the whole enchilada. It remains in a fixed position, unlike the fat-pad, and is always in the same place ( redundant i know ). Just make sure you always measure in the same manner, either do it standing, seated or whatever, do it the same way all the time and that will provide for consistent gauging of true size gain, or lack of gain. This is a hot topic on itself mind you, many flames have been thrown my way just because i don't really see the point in NBPenis EnlargementL measuring, if your fat levels fluctuate, so will the size of your dick, the bone however, is always in the same place and is the limit for penetration. Fat-pads aren't solid, they are flubbering fat, crazy soft, it should stop noone from going all in unless there is no room inside the girls pussy or the dick is crazy huge.

I bottom out easy in all positions these days, there is always a part of it left out in the cold, what is the point? None. That is why i need no more. I like having sex more than i like breathing so i don't need to give my gf an argument for NOT having sex should i? "It's too big and it hurts" is something i wished i haven't heard before so i'll just leave it at this.

I am no monster, i have what i have, it is quite a bit but no monster.

I will be taking pics, measured ones, and post them here because i have no problem in letting people know my true size. In not a lesser man if i don't have a 10 or 11 incher, am i? Nope, she still loves it AND me and that is all i really need.

Peace

Mike
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Thanks for the kind words :)

I take my hats off to all of you guys going through the trial and error and the willingness to try new concepts, sometimes in the face of ridicule or scorn. That takes courage and innovation. It's gentlemen like yourselves that make Penis Enlargement what it is.
 
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Big Al;327596 said:
That's it in a nutshell. It would be great if more people thought that way.



Is this question for me?

If so, I did mostly basic jelqs and stretches the first 4 weeks or so, then transitioned to more intense exercises. That's 2 inches BPenis EnlargementL. I have a routine similar to the one I did outlined here: http://peforum.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8528 .

Try to start with a comfortable rep/intensity load and slowly increase until you're using the maximum number of reps outlined. Don't go beyond that- just increase the frequency every 2 weeks as outlined.
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That James quote is what keeps me knowing that there is an afterlife and that I will see all my loved ones who have passed again. Just Dr. Ian Stevenson's research alone, for me, is proof.

I meant the question for Admiral, BUT I APPRECIATE you posting your workout too!
 
8InchMIKE;327594 said:
Well here it goes...

I have been paying close attention to this thread after someone asked me to.

This thread is what i usually call a "gun powder barrel", it can lead to very a very positive outcome while making things a bit unconfortable and raise some feathers for some dudes out there that may or may not have been truthfull on their measurements and Penis Enlargement status.

I have started Penis Enlargement myself a while ago, although always half-assed. I was intense with it for about six months and then i slacked off and have been on a cruise velocity of a few jelqs and stretches since then.

I have posted my inicial pics on here, don't know if they survived the GUI change made recently here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] but they should be on some server archive i would figure.

I have also posted correctly measured pics after my inicial gains that at the time were about an inch if i remember correctly. Having started Penis Enlargement at 6.5BPenis EnlargementL x 6.5MSEG, at the time of the pics i was about 7.5BPenis EnlargementL x 7MSEG.

The veterans here may remember my pics, maybe not.

All in all, i have had this feeling once, then i stoped caring about it. Like Stevie and many others, along with myself, there is always room for doubt, suspition and disbeliefe when it comes to such a sensible topic such as dick size.

I have seen many blatantely faked pics ranging from the mere lousy photoshop jobs with repeating veins and spots to very well made ones.

On the other hand i have seen very few convincing pics on here, or anywhere else for that matter, of real growth. They are hard to comeby it seems. I have been called out myself on some pics and having better things to do, i ignored it the best i could and just kept on living with myself and my size, which is much more than i ever thought i'd sport one day. That day is now, the proof is in the pudding, i know what i have, the girls whoom have seen it, touched it and played with it all attested to it being well...very,very big. So that, for me, is more than enough, that is my pudding.

I am now in a position where i can find more time for dedicating myself to this, not for growing 20 more inches but to help whoomever needs it. That's it.

I have enourmous amounts of respect for many people here like DLD or BigAl or GoingFor11X7, people i have become used to recognize as brothers on here, along with many other friends i made along this crazy Penis Enlargement trip.

Having said this, i believe Stevie is showing curiosity and is trying to apply the scientific method on what it concerns proof of gains. I agree that that is just what we need to end this real/fake crap. In the end, if you do lie, you lie to yourself.

BPenis EnlargementL is what i feel as the most accurate and consistent way of measuring because the pubic bone is the limit, the speed brake, if you will, on the whole enchilada. It remains in a fixed position, unlike the fat-pad, and is always in the same place ( redundant i know ). Just make sure you always measure in the same manner, either do it standing, seated or whatever, do it the same way all the time and that will provide for consistent gauging of true size gain, or lack of gain. This is a hot topic on itself mind you, many flames have been thrown my way just because i don't really see the point in NBPenis EnlargementL measuring, if your fat levels fluctuate, so will the size of your dick, the bone however, is always in the same place and is the limit for penetration. Fat-pads aren't solid, they are flubbering fat, crazy soft, it should stop noone from going all in unless there is no room inside the girls pussy or the dick is crazy huge.

I bottom out easy in all positions these days, there is always a part of it left out in the cold, what is the point? None. That is why i need no more. I like having sex more than i like breathing so i don't need to give my gf an argument for NOT having sex should i? "It's too big and it hurts" is something i wished i haven't heard before so i'll just leave it at this.

I am no monster, i have what i have, it is quite a bit but no monster.

I will be taking pics, measured ones, and post them here because i have no problem in letting people know my true size. In not a lesser man if i don't have a 10 or 11 incher, am i? Nope, she still loves it AND me and that is all i really need.

Peace

Mike
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Mike,

Thank you, thank you, thank you. You, Big Al and goinfor11X7 are right on and my confidence is bolstered even more in my beliefs that anyone who is serious about Penis Enlargement and NOT doing serious measurements in a public forum like this is doing a direct disservice to the Penis Enlargement community.

Apropos to this discussion, take a look at the latest DLD post: Super Cock Video (even though you might feel a little gay afterwards, it is worth it).

I posted my thoughts on it there, but it's incredibly interesting to me that:

1. Most of the pictures are photoshopped. If they were really that big, they would all be OVER 13"-14" long. I'm sure SOMEONE OTHER than Jonah Falcon is as big (and we aren't even sure that HE is), but these probably-unusable-after-the-age-of-40 MONSTER DONGS are 1 in a 100 million.
2. The few on there who ARE truly huge don't have measurements. A few have their cocks next to household items (and one should grab these items when looking at these pics to realize just WHY the person DIDN'T use a tape measure or ruler), but again, they are trying to show just how BIG and LONG they are, and using a ruler or a tape measure gives undeniable proof.

None of them, in that LONG ASS video, use a single measuring device. Forget about using one incorrectly...they don't use one at all.

This is what all of us are talking about; frauds being frauds and genuine men with totally fine size down their (6 inches, even 5 inches if strong) feel like shit and get insecure because of not-nearly-as-big-as-it-looks-or-is-reported-as adult entertainment stars like Mandingo and Ramone and ALL THESE BOGUS photos on the net. NONE OF THEM get measured on camera because they are frauds. To take the time out to impress people to have sex with you because of your size, to just plain show off, etc.: one would clearly measure.

I am in conversations with true Penis Enlargementers from here offline and, probably starting this weekend, am beginning a thread which:

1. Will clearly (I want any feedback or suggestions on this!) show my current size with rulers and tape measures.
2. Show what my routine is going to be.
3. Start date is the date I start the thread.
4. DAILY POSTS about WHAT I did that day and any specifics I want to mention.
5. Monthly Pics with the same measurements, whether I gain or not.

ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW ELSE I SHOULD GO ABOUT THIS, I WELCOME YOUR INPUT!

My dreams?
1. To get to a conservative 9" BPenis EnlargementL and be at least 1" thicker when erect.
2. To PROVE, beyond dispute, that following AT LEAST one Penis Enlargement routine works.
3. To inspire fellow Penis Enlargementers and disgrace the skeptics.

Peace.
 
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Also add in the mentality aspect of your P.E routine ? Like how you felt on that particular day of workout and the outcome ? What was going through your mind while P.E ing etc... I think that way you have ONE THREAd covering both the physical , Psycological and Mental Aspect of P.E :)
 
Who cares if other people care if it works? Honestly, who cares? The non-believers are the ones missing out. We are walking around with our reborn big cocks, while they are shaking their heads. I say let them doubt it.
 
its hard for people to realize pe works because they want to see results very fast like 1 inch in 2 weeks and they dont take the time to dedicate themselves to pe, because without consistency and dedication you wont gain jack squat diddly. anything worth having in life takes hard work.
 
Alpha Effusion;327610 said:
Who cares if other people care if it works? Honestly, who cares? The non-believers are the ones missing out. We are walking around with our reborn big cocks, while they are shaking their heads. I say let them doubt it.
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I care AND I've gained slightly doing Penis Enlargement (primarily jelqing).

If you don't want others to know because you don't want the playing field leveled, I understand. But for those that don't believe because of improper mental conditioning yet WANT TO believe, there should be documented proof that Penis Enlargement works. Hell, there should be documented proof so that your Penis Enlargement teacher gets props. There should be documentation so that the big-size-bullshit adult entertainment industry, which is the manifester of most insecurities regarding size, will be fucked because anyone who's anyone will both know that they use false visual techniques and make 7" look like 9".

And Pepepe is right, many people give up wany too soon and then diss the system.
 
kolimuddin;327608 said:
Also add in the mentality aspect of your P.E routine ? Like how you felt on that particular day of workout and the outcome ? What was going through your mind while P.E ing etc... I think that way you have ONE THREAd covering both the physical , Psycological and Mental Aspect of P.E :)
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I PROMISE that I will do this as well (feelings before, during and after/condition of my overall confidence, etc.). Thank you, Kolimuddin.rofl
 
pepepe;327612 said:
its hard for people to realize pe works because they want to see results very fast like 1 inch in 2 weeks and they dont take the time to dedicate themselves to pe, because without consistency and dedication you wont gain jack squat diddly. anything worth having in life takes hard work.
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It's true, Penis Enlargement takes a lot of dedication and many men are not cut out for it. It takes a certain attitude to get involved and stay involved with Penis Enlargement. I know that during my time off if I even thought about Penis Enlargement I felt extremely apathetic. I imagine that is how some guys are.
 
goinfor11x7;327644 said:
I LOVE following this thread. New hope, inspiration and fresh energy. It can only make the site that much better. Whoohoooo!:mrgrin:
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Getting the answers we wants some times takes a little drama but we usually find the answers.
 
WOW what a great thread I can not really say why people do not believe in P.E. as I really do not have clue but through reading through this thread all I have to say is that there is a wealth of knowledge out there and I am glad that I am back and sinking it all in.
 
adult entertainment doesnt help and constantly being told about huge guys all the time. This doesnt really bother me now with insecurity, just sick of seeing it but when your new to all this it can get you down into thinking Penis Enlargement is all a load of shit, even though you see small gains. When your seeing sites like Monsters Of Cock at the start of your Penis Enlargement career, it can make you detest the whole arena and simply throw the towel in and regard Penis Enlargement as bullshit.
 
I for one had a hard time believing that this worked to. in the beginning of my Penis Enlargement i actually used more time searching for proof on the internet. than i did on doing the exercises. And at some point i was actually believing that i had no gains what so ever and wanted to stop, so i did.

But then one day i found my first measurements, which i had made on a little block and packed away, and when i compared that to my, back then current stats, i realized that my penis had grown around half an inch in lenght. so i started again. My biggest concern has always been that i never had a place to do my workout, i mean doing it at home? and you mom walks in on you? No way!
at the moment im living with my gf and told her that im doing it, and she is cool with it, no problem with our sex life, but i told her im doing it for my self, since i would like to be hung, and she understands. and so i have started on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of size[/words].


My advise to the gurus and such: Put money together make a "reality/documentary/whatever" show and take, lets say 10 guys who are willing to show their dingdong on tv (can't be so hard to find) And simple follow them through a period of 6 month of Penis Enlargement workout. and put the show out free on torrents (youtube don't like to show weiners) when people can associate it with clear evidence from something they have seen in a show, they have alot easier with adobting it. (cause the TV never lies!)

Everytime a homepage says: "4 inches in 3 weeks!" it is ruining the good guys business.
And even if just 2 guys get minor results, its more than enough to prove that this is possible.

In the end. what made me a believer (some of me still has a hard time accepting this) was the pictures of african tribe women with 10 inches necks. I mean, we all know that skin can be stretched. else we wouldn't have any fat people running around they would have exploded or something.
so an ear is no problem to stretch, i would believe in that. But a thing as complicated as a neck, which have an insane amount of components like nerves and veins, and is pretty vital to us human, if you can stretch that with a couple of rings, i don't really see the hard time stretching my ding dong. which made me a half way believer.
 
Aimingforthetop;344369 said:
I for one had a hard time believing that this worked to. in the beginning of my Penis Enlargement i actually used more time searching for proof on the internet. than i did on doing the exercises. And at some point i was actually believing that i had no gains what so ever and wanted to stop, so i did.

But then one day i found my first measurements, which i had made on a little block and packed away, and when i compared that to my, back then current stats, i realized that my penis had grown around half an inch in lenght. so i started again. My biggest concern has always been that i never had a place to do my workout, i mean doing it at home? and you mom walks in on you? No way!
at the moment im living with my gf and told her that im doing it, and she is cool with it, no problem with our sex life, but i told her im doing it for my self, since i would like to be hung, and she understands. and so i have started on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of size[/words].


My advise to the gurus and such: Put money together make a "reality/documentary/whatever" show and take, lets say 10 guys who are willing to show their dingdong on tv (can't be so hard to find) And simple follow them through a period of 6 month of Penis Enlargement workout. and put the show out free on torrents (youtube don't like to show weiners) when people can associate it with clear evidence from something they have seen in a show, they have alot easier with adobting it. (cause the TV never lies!)

Everytime a homepage says: "4 inches in 3 weeks!" it is ruining the good guys business.
And even if just 2 guys get minor results, its more than enough to prove that this is possible.

In the end. what made me a believer (some of me still has a hard time accepting this) was the pictures of african tribe women with 10 inches necks. I mean, we all know that skin can be stretched. else we wouldn't have any fat people running around they would have exploded or something.
so an ear is no problem to stretch, i would believe in that. But a thing as complicated as a neck, which have an insane amount of components like nerves and veins, and is pretty vital to us human, if you can stretch that with a couple of rings, i don't really see the hard time stretching my ding dong. which made me a half way believer.
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Penis Enlargement is easy, guys want it to be complicated because easy is to basic to understand. If you pull on it the penis will get longer...if you fill it with more blood than usual it will get thicker....Plain and simple. If you are not gaining the thing that is stopping you is you and the beliefs you are carrying with you. Change your thoughts and watch the gains come.
 
Lots of dudes dont realize this is a long term commitment for most that is. I mean, we are dealing with different tissues and such. Dudes get afraid of it, a lot of em think the penis is sensitive, which in a way it is. But I think I"m living proof that you can go to extremes with penis exercising. You know one thing I figured out for all the big gainers, they all stay on point, commitment, and consistency. ALL of them.
 
ithiel;344431 said:
Lots of dudes dont realize this is a long term commitment for most that is. I mean, we are dealing with different tissues and such. Dudes get afraid of it, a lot of em think the penis is sensitive, which in a way it is. But I think I"m living proof that you can go to extremes with penis exercising. You know one thing I figured out for all the big gainers, they all stay on point, commitment, and consistency. ALL of them.
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Are you black?:)
 
Doc;7298 said:
Alot of people don't believe it because they will try it for several months with no results. I, for example, have been doing Penis Enlargement for five and a half years, and have only gained about an inch girth(lost half of that, so only half inch) and about 2mm of length. I get very pissed off at the lack of gains with all of the time, but then I think of how many people I have helped with my knowledge. It has become a habit now, and I know one day I will get my goal if I keep at it.
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I can relate to this. I've posted threads on here before asking 'why I'm not gaining?' I believe that Penis Enlargement works and keep at it however i have had times in the past when I haven't gained anything. Have tried DLD's Phase 3 and 4 routine. Neither of them worked after spending 2 months on each phase I didn't gain anything (except some short term girth gains immediately following the work out). Am now trying exercises on Phase 5 but doing less reps this time as i can't afford to keep investing so much time with so little results. Am also continuing to stretch in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] when time/practicality permits
 
i think people who don't get results give them selves balsam for not pursuing harder and longer, saying its just a trick for getting money gives them peace and no need to put effort in.

Also not being able to incorporate it into your day because of religious, time constraints or shame like feelings...
 
Alex78;416001 said:
i think people who don't get results give them selves balsam for not pursuing harder and longer, saying its just a trick for getting money gives them peace and no need to put effort in
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Excellent point
 
Mdoc;415697 said:
I can relate to this. I've posted threads on here before asking 'why I'm not gaining?' I believe that Penis Enlargement works and keep at it however i have had times in the past when I haven't gained anything. Have tried DLD's Phase 3 and 4 routine. Neither of them worked after spending 2 months on each phase I didn't gain anything (except some short term girth gains immediately following the work out). Am now trying exercises on Phase 5 but doing less reps this time as i can't afford to keep investing so much time with so little results. Am also continuing to stretch in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] when time/practicality permits
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Mdoc, what does your routine look like currently? are you gaining anything these days? maybe its time to try some different exercises/routines. something you've never tried before. let's get you gaining! cheers
 
In response to the original question, I had doubts, but the changes in my penis size and erection quality over the past few months has blown all doubt away. For the record, I have not yet paid a dime to this site, for all the knowledge I've gained from here, although I feel I am in debt.
I can totally understand the frustration of DLD, some moderators, and some other experienced gainers here.
Here I am with a dick that is over 1" longer than it was in November, and all medical explanation says its not possible. HA!
 
Jonny5;416688 said:
In response to the original question, I had doubts, but the changes in my penis size and erection quality over the past few months has blown all doubt away. For the record, I have not yet paid a dime to this site, for all the knowledge I've gained from here, although I feel I am in debt.
I can totally understand the frustration of DLD, some moderators, and some other experienced gainers here.
Here I am with a dick that is over 1" longer than it was in November, and all medical explanation says its not possible. HA!
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Yet, anthropological evidence (tribes and even modern "modification" arts like piercing) say the opposite. Many people seem to think the Penis EnlargementNIS is some 'magical', unchangeable part of the human body. Whereas the ears, lips, and even LIMBS can be stretched and made permanently larger?? THAT concept defies my logic more than the penis being able to be enlarged.
 
Some people are afraid to think outside of what people in authority tell them. What most people think is not possible is always probable on some infinitesimal scale. When someone tells you it's not possible or they don't believe it, something inside them is either afraid to change that or believe that it is possible. Aside from belief, you've got some pretty conclusive evidence that these elongation techniques do work from pictures in National Geographic to articles in journals. I'm going of on a tangent here as to why these ideas may not be believed by the general public: The journals I'm talking about are older prestigious journals on anthropology that probably had some eugenics-biased when they studied the culture. Aside from that underpinning, there is a disconnect between our social norms and their social norms, which the general public, has been known to scrutinize. These reasons may be why many people don't think it's true nor does the scientific community, because it was based on racially-biased "scientific work" and the general public's belief that they are "other" people. Just some food for thought :)

Ultimately, it's hard to get people to believe or even consider what's truth until they actually experience it. Even then, the step towards that is on them. Furthermore, without the knowledge that these things exist, many people won't belief it, and possibly increasingly so within the age of photoshop manipulation.
 
stillwantmore2;416713 said:
Yet, anthropological evidence (tribes and even modern "modification" arts like piercing) say the opposite. Many people seem to think the Penis EnlargementNIS is some 'magical', unchangeable part of the human body. Whereas the ears, lips, and even LIMBS can be stretched and made permanently larger?? THAT concept defies my logic more than the penis being able to be enlarged.
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That is true physically and socially, the penis is taboo!
 
doublelongdaddy;416733 said:
That is true physically and socially, the penis is taboo!
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At least primarily in the US, I don't see other countries putting such emphasis on penis enlargement being impossible without going under the knife. Hell, I don't see many other countries putting that much emphasis on penis enlargement in general. In the US we live under a pretense that things that are bigger, faster, and stronger are better, and that 2nd best is worthless. I see no other countries going so far as the US does to promote this idea.
 
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