Hey Guys,
Really glad to see how up to date this thread is, and that it is not old like all the other information I can find online about this topic.
Really I gotta thank all of you for taking the time to post information, pictures, questions, and details. You have NO idea how many guys you are helping, hiding away and suffering alone with their 'problem'. This really does affect self-esteem, confidence, and just relationships simply having a proper sex life.
So to begin, I have experienced the same microtears affecting most people with frenulum brevity. Over years, the tears seem to get worse, and combined, they seem to create scar tissue, or thicker skin, with the main problem of elasticity and skin shrinking from healing, so that each time it heals, it actually becomes tighter and shorter with more pressure on the frenulum. I am not active in Penis Enlargement, and only stumbled onto this site due to the search engine and searching about this tying off procedure that I read at first would be a day surgery, and was hyping and preparing myself to go for a doctor visit to try and book a urologist or specialist appointment, when the more reading I have read, I realize this is in fact quite a simple procedure, almost similar to getting stiches or a suture for a large cut to keep it closed. In my early adult years, I was very interested in Penis Enlargement and exercises, but realized that when doing so, it really put pressure on the frenulum and it was keeping me from achieving gains, so I stopped from the uncomfortableness and worrying that I would in fact make it worse, creating more microtears. I am sure many of you may have the same frustration of F@#$% I am just gonna cut this ___king thing once and for all! But have been a bit scared off by not knowing what or how to do it.
Fast forward to this year. I had very very rough sex last week, and it wasnt a problem before because the condom gave enough to keep the pressure from tearing, but I guess in the heat of the moment, I was going at it too hard, and long story short, a few hours after sex noticed that a sharp pain coming from that dreaded area.
I have had two kinds of tears. The microtears are horizontal, meaning perpendicular to the shaft of the penis, and look like whitish micro tears from the pressure on the skin when stretched out. The second type of tear is a bit weirder, it seems to tear parallel or lengthwise to the frenulum. The second tear causes more pain, the first kind worries me more because those are the tears which seem to reduce the elasticity after it heals. It looks like a very thin slice or slit. Almost like if you squeezed that frenulum band very tight and just made a super light surface cut along the length of it it kinda what it looks like.
Anyhow, the tears before were as I said, microtears, but this last one is a biggie, and almost seems like it is starting its own severing by itself. That area of larger tear is in the middle of the frenulum, where everything meets to make that triangle. And in front of the triangle, I have a typical thin band frenulum like most guys seem to have. My frenulum itself, I suspect is like JanBarrels, very thick and lots of extra skin. I have not seen the photos or the group at flickr so I can only suspect at this point.
So my question is, I have read its best to do the tie at the point where it seems the tightest or ripping the most, but that is nearer to the middle of the frenulum. Others I have read, its best to start as high up on the gland as possible, and somewhat work your way back with multiple ties. My problem is, where it is tearing or ripping is near the middle or tip of the triangle where everything meets, but that area is super thick skin and I am worried about veins.
If I tie as high up on the gland as I can, It would only be tying that super thin, super tight piece of frenulum band that doesnt have much skin underneath it. (Most guys with super short frenulums without much excess skin, that is the area I am talking about. But after that very tight band of skin, the V shape of frenulum and foreskin beneath is so thick and lots of skin. I had wanted to go as close to the shaft as possible, like cutting into that thick frenulum as much as possible, but I am worried about the resulting two flaps of skin left over.
I am thinking maybe I should just try a simple (more superficial, but not really superficial to anyone with this problem) as high up on the glands as possible, and leaving as little flap as possible to be left over after it cuts through. That will leave still the thicker frenulum and everything still below it, but I am hoping that tiny band when broken, will give seperation from the foreskin to the gland head itself. And then I can work on everything below with more ties once I get through the first one and realize its probably not as bad as I thought it would be.
As it stands now, though I am still healing from the cut, and its taking a long time. It honestly almost looks like I just took a razor to it and knicked the frenulum at the point where everything converges into a triangle shape. Sorry for my lack of terminology.
If JanBarrel can add me to the flickr group, I would be happy to post pictures to help others. As I have not started, I am a good candidate to show the whole procedure. I have experience with close up photos as well as steady hands, so a clear photo will really help others. If taking photos, remember to pause breathing when pushing the shutter button. The up and down motion of your diaphragm rising to breathe can blur close up photos quite easily, but I guess its hard to hold yourself and the camera and take a still picture.. practice makes perfect, when in doubt, take more than you need, so you can choose the best photos that are in focus to share.
I am still apprehensive, I get sharp pains still from pulling back my foreskin until this tear heals... its my biggest tear yet and I think I am aggravated and frustrated enough to finally do something about it, instead of waiting for it to get worse, as it has in the past with my experience. I do think I will need multiple ties though, so this isnt going to be easy or quick. I am going to try to break it down into stages, and work on the thinnest part of the frenulum to start, maybe at the highest point on the gland I can get, though I keep reading its best to tie it where it is tearing the most. Just worried about how deep to go... like JanBarrel, I got lots of extra skin under/after the frenulum.. I am worried if I go too deep into the skin (closest as possible to the shaft) that everything might look and be ok above the tie (ie the gland head and how it looks) but I am worried I will have a giant flap leftover in a kind of V shape just under the gland head/meatus. I read someone else who already had the idea to do a triangular type tie off, to basically rid yourself of this extra skin, if it will heal into a flap.. I think its too big to heal into itself or the foreskin... any comments or opinions would be appreciated. And I will post up pictures if you guys dont mind commenting and giving me your opinion with your experiences. You guys helped me a lot already, namely having the courage to perform self surgery on your most valued part of your body. I guess it wouldnt be so nerve wracking if it wasnt so packed with nerves and nerve endings, but from what I hear, the frenulum itself and tying it doesnt really hurt that much. If anything I imagine a dull, throbbing pain if any, vs that red hot knife shearing through skin feeling unless you accidentally tug or pull on the string, you might experience a sharp pain, but I think most of it is just dull pain.... anyone?
Sorry for the long first post..
