Frenulum Tying!
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Day 4: Some definite progress today - the frenulum actually looks like it has reduced in size in the region of the thread.
If I pull the frenulum away from the glans, I can actually see through a small hole just below the thread.
The thread is still very tight though - no chance of it rotating yet.
All the pulling and prodding did cause some micro tears by the looks of things, and I could see some blood (very very little) just oozing out here and there.
I have been applying E45 and antiseptic cream alternating about every two hours.
The cotton thread makes it more difficult to keep clean, but I also wonder if it doesn't absorb the creams ?
This might mean that there will be less of a scar line ? will have to wait and see.
The cotton might also be slightly more comfortable than nylon for the rest of the penis.
If I pull the frenulum away from the glans, I can actually see through a small hole just below the thread.
The thread is still very tight though - no chance of it rotating yet.
All the pulling and prodding did cause some micro tears by the looks of things, and I could see some blood (very very little) just oozing out here and there.
I have been applying E45 and antiseptic cream alternating about every two hours.
The cotton thread makes it more difficult to keep clean, but I also wonder if it doesn't absorb the creams ?
This might mean that there will be less of a scar line ? will have to wait and see.
The cotton might also be slightly more comfortable than nylon for the rest of the penis.
JanBarrel;476773 said:
I can make an account. I'll join afterwards, sure just give us the tags (or labels, title w/e). I just wanted to make sure we could get a site that wouldn't take down our content if we posted it.
I read Flickr's community guidelines and as along as we have the appropriate filters designated, we should be free to share without any problems.
JanBarrel;476830 said:
Sorry Jan, I can't see the group "fren_tying".
I apparently already have an account rofl (I guess old yahoo accounts work).
I sent you a pm with my flickr name. Add me, if you please.
We'll see if that gets anywhere.
Looks like pretty solid work, Jan. If its that loose you can stick a piece of toilet paper through, I'd say your coming along great. Way faster than I did.
BTW JanBarrel, are you soaking? I know the instructions I adhered to involved soaking like 3 times a day in warm water (I only soaked once a day, excluding showers).
If you are it might explain your good progress and I'd think it'd be helpful to note.
You'll be a new man soon enough!
BTW JanBarrel, are you soaking? I know the instructions I adhered to involved soaking like 3 times a day in warm water (I only soaked once a day, excluding showers).
If you are it might explain your good progress and I'd think it'd be helpful to note.
You'll be a new man soon enough!
All2Real;476764 said:
Ouch. Rough Masturbation?
Day 6: This morning the thread was slightly loose, and I could rotate it relative to the remaining skin.
Have removed the original thread, cleaned the area and replaced with a new thread.
Interesting to see the white color of the skin under the original thread - I assume this is dead or dying skin.
I was really tempted to to snip through the remaining skin.
Got some quite good photos of the process...
Have removed the original thread, cleaned the area and replaced with a new thread.
Interesting to see the white color of the skin under the original thread - I assume this is dead or dying skin.
I was really tempted to to snip through the remaining skin.
Got some quite good photos of the process...
It's great to see others are trying these tying techniques! Welcome!
I'm glad that this thread is helping others and I'll try to get some information together + a guide perhaps (although those links are good enough I think).
Just a quick report from me:
My 2nd tying needed to be removed and have a fresh one tied in to cut through the remaining string of skin, but when I got the thread out there was only 0.5mm of skin to cut through so I decided to take the razor to it. Seriously, it wasn't worth putting a new stitch it to get the last minute bit of skin there. I'm currently healing and trying to keep everything soft and stretchy to discourage any scar tissue.
I'll post more info soon when I get back in!
Good luck all! rofl
I'm glad that this thread is helping others and I'll try to get some information together + a guide perhaps (although those links are good enough I think).
Just a quick report from me:
My 2nd tying needed to be removed and have a fresh one tied in to cut through the remaining string of skin, but when I got the thread out there was only 0.5mm of skin to cut through so I decided to take the razor to it. Seriously, it wasn't worth putting a new stitch it to get the last minute bit of skin there. I'm currently healing and trying to keep everything soft and stretchy to discourage any scar tissue.
I'll post more info soon when I get back in!
Good luck all! rofl
Wow you've got some impressive photos Jan.
I'm surprised; you cut off alot more excess cord than I did. And from those angles, your frenulum sure -looked- problematic. I mean it looks pretty thick and everything. Now it looks like its well underway.
Have you had any complaints about using a string-like thread? I mean fraying, gunking, or irrtability? My guess from you lack of any, it much answers my questions.
I'm surprised; you cut off alot more excess cord than I did. And from those angles, your frenulum sure -looked- problematic. I mean it looks pretty thick and everything. Now it looks like its well underway.
Have you had any complaints about using a string-like thread? I mean fraying, gunking, or irrtability? My guess from you lack of any, it much answers my questions.
Brilliant news !!
Day 7: This morning it looked like there were only a couple of thin skin bonds still holding on the glans side of the tie.
I decided this would make for some good photos, so got everything setup, and just as I was about to take the first one, it just separated !
I think the slight pulling action to setup for the photo did the trick.
The knot was so tight that it remained stuck to the shaft side - I eventually had to cut it off - didn't want to risk pulling it off.
Downside of that is I don't have a nice momento where the actual loop is visible.
I'm pretty happy with the result - the center portion looks quite good to me - will have to see how the two "stubs" heal though.
If anything, I'm afraid that I might have gone too deep - i.e. too close the the shaft ? (Tactical and Phallus what do you think ?)
Looks like I will do a second tie, but I'll give this one a while so we can get used to each other first !
(I will post the photos on flickr in the next 30 min or so)
Day 7: This morning it looked like there were only a couple of thin skin bonds still holding on the glans side of the tie.
I decided this would make for some good photos, so got everything setup, and just as I was about to take the first one, it just separated !
I think the slight pulling action to setup for the photo did the trick.
The knot was so tight that it remained stuck to the shaft side - I eventually had to cut it off - didn't want to risk pulling it off.
Downside of that is I don't have a nice momento where the actual loop is visible.
I'm pretty happy with the result - the center portion looks quite good to me - will have to see how the two "stubs" heal though.
If anything, I'm afraid that I might have gone too deep - i.e. too close the the shaft ? (Tactical and Phallus what do you think ?)
Looks like I will do a second tie, but I'll give this one a while so we can get used to each other first !
(I will post the photos on flickr in the next 30 min or so)
I did mine 2 days ago. I used a fishing line and left the line long enough to pull it with my hands every now and then to help aid in the cutting process. I placed the needle as close as possible to my glans without worrying about veins. I'm very anxious to have it finished already and by the looks of it, it will be there for more than a week perhaps since i did it so close to my glans and the frenulum skin seems pretty thick.
TacticalPenis;477036 said:Wow you've got some impressive photos Jan.
I'm surprised; you cut off alot more excess cord than I did. And from those angles, your frenulum sure -looked- problematic. I mean it looks pretty thick and everything. Now it looks like its well underway.
Have you had any complaints about using a string-like thread? I mean fraying, gunking, or irrtability? My guess from you lack of any, it much answers my questions.
Thanks for the comment on the photos !
Pretty tricky to take - If anyone else wants to document a tie like this, first practice taking the photos !
I really can't complain about the thread - although I did keep it clean and frequently put ointment and E45 on it.
If anything, I think it might be too broad - a thinner thread might have cut through quicker.
Might also be that it didn't really cut but did more of a squeezing action.
The other pro was that I cut it quite short - which meant I could easily use a urinal without people seeing the thread.
In summary I think it worked quite well, I think I will try for a thinner thread on the next one though, will also look at some elastic options as well.
flickr allows the generation of a web link - I'm not sure if this will work due to the flickr group being restricted.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/fren_tying/
Let me know if it works please.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/fren_tying/
Let me know if it works please.
All2Real;477042 said:
Yes, welcome! And congrats on you first tie- it won't be long just give time.
If you want to see a thicker frenulum check out Jan's on flickr. His is thicker than mine by far.
Fishing Line is what I used initially. It was pretty sturdy but got kinda slippery with vaseline and Bacitrin ointment I was using. made it kinda of hard to tell whether it was super tight like I wanted it to be but it definitely kept the knot, that's for sure. Keep us posted on your progress and good luck with the healing.
Oh and Jan, job well done! That frenulum seperation looks textbook if there was one. Mine looked the same exact way, just tighter. You have a much looser foreskin and a thicker frenulum to boot whereas I did not.
You look like you came pretty close to the shaft alright however its fine IMO. I cut down to the shaft and even some skin with was not part of the frenulum and I healed fine (I just noticed it not too long ago). Your right on the money with the first tie as far as I'm concerned.
I can see where you said you might do a second tie but to be honest, I think you tied most of the restricting area off. If you just stretched and applied topicals to the healing skin, I think it would be satisfying. Again this is my opinion.
Thanks TP !
I'm definitely going to let this heal completely before looking at the second one.
Some photos were taken with the penis fully flacid, others slightly erect, so it might look thicker due to the lack of a fixed reference.
A text book would have been handy ! - I had been contemplating this for months, and the final decision was very on the spur of the moment. (which explains the lack of photos !)
Do you reckon there's much of a difference between fishing line and cotton based thread ?
(The string I used turned out to be croche yarn)
I'm definitely going to let this heal completely before looking at the second one.
Some photos were taken with the penis fully flacid, others slightly erect, so it might look thicker due to the lack of a fixed reference.
A text book would have been handy ! - I had been contemplating this for months, and the final decision was very on the spur of the moment. (which explains the lack of photos !)
Do you reckon there's much of a difference between fishing line and cotton based thread ?
(The string I used turned out to be croche yarn)
JanBarrel;477069 said:
Well you said there was more of a squeezing effect rather than a cutting effect for the yarn. I'd have to agree based on the fact that the fishing line was very dense, thin and had a high tensile strength (something like 300lb for fishering and all that). Because of how elastic and soft the frenulum is compared to the nylon fishing line, it really digs in there.
Its sort of a moot point since they both have viable effects, as you demonstrated. The big idea was to cut off circulation to the frenulum and if the cord you pick can do that, cutting is a matter a time and some pulling/tightening of the frenulum.
janbarrel;477044 said:
first, i did my tie, then after 2 days i realized i was going to have to keep the fishing line in there for over a week or 2 because i believe the string i used was too thick. By the third day i got impatient and got an operational blade. After putting the blade in boiling water for 30 secs then soaking it in alcohol and putting triple antibiotic all over it, i then pulled out the fishing line, took a really deep breath and inserted the tip of the blade in the hole that was created with the tie. I then squeezed my frenulum skin and put some pressure on the blade and swush, it went right through. I then had 2 little points, one on my glans and another one on my shaft so i put my thumb nail under the pointy flesh and just pressed into my nail with the blade and just cut the point on the glans and then i did the same on my shaft but since the frenulum part on the shaft was still kind of meaty, i took the whole chunk of meat off the same way i did the little pointy part on the glans. It kept bleeding so i put a gauze on it and tied some pretty tight tape around it to cut the bleeding off. A couple of hours later it still bled but very little. I have been cleaning it every few hours and it looks really fresh, neat, and flat. As a matter of fact, my head looks even bigger now, i guess the frenelum was holding it back from expanding all the way. I'm loving it so far, i always wanted a bigger head. Can't wait to do some clamping now to see the expantion.
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WOW, that's seriously impressive !
There's no way I would have had the guts to do that !
Thanks for the photos ! - it looks like there was less bleeding than I would have expected.
Was there much pain as you cut ? or was it more just a weird sensation ?, because I was surprised at how little pain I felt putting the needle and thread through.
Good luck with the healing - keep us posted !
Talk about "boldly going where no man has gone before" !
There's no way I would have had the guts to do that !
Thanks for the photos ! - it looks like there was less bleeding than I would have expected.
Was there much pain as you cut ? or was it more just a weird sensation ?, because I was surprised at how little pain I felt putting the needle and thread through.
Good luck with the healing - keep us posted !
Talk about "boldly going where no man has gone before" !
You are right jb, it took guts but i knew what i wanted.
As for pain, yes there was pain but it was over quick and wasn't as much as expected. I just wade sure the surgical blade was brand new and just pressed it really hard to make sure it cut all the way through without me having to withstand slow process pain while cutting slowly.
It is healing rather quick but i keep pulling the skin back so that it heals stretched out without shrinking and i have made it bleed a bit. I keep washing it with soap and water and applying triple antibiotic every few hours.
Thanks for wishing me luck.
As for pain, yes there was pain but it was over quick and wasn't as much as expected. I just wade sure the surgical blade was brand new and just pressed it really hard to make sure it cut all the way through without me having to withstand slow process pain while cutting slowly.
It is healing rather quick but i keep pulling the skin back so that it heals stretched out without shrinking and i have made it bleed a bit. I keep washing it with soap and water and applying triple antibiotic every few hours.
Thanks for wishing me luck.
JanBarrel;477012 said:
Hey JanBarrel, sorry for the late reply I haven't had much chance to get on the pc since I last posted.
Incase you're still wondering, my 2nd stitch was in for about 5 days I think and during that time I made sure to get frequent erections to help keep it tight and under pressure. For the most part this worked but it seemed the elastic stitch I used wasn't tied as tight as it could have been and so it wasn't cutting through anymore in the last day or two.
When I cut through there wasn't any bleeding apart from that which you would get from squeezing a small spot or something, and I even then that was because the area was being squeezed and tugged as I was cutted through.
One thing I have noticed with this last stitch is it looks like there is a slight bit of scar tissue which I put down to me perhaps being a bit rough when cutting through the last bit...It shouldn't be a problem though. I'll most likely be doing another tie over this area in the future anyway and will be using creams to soften it up. In hindsight I actually think that last bit of skin was infact a tiny string of scar tissue as it was tougher than I expected to cut through.
From the sound of the posts it seems everyone's tyings/cuttings are going well! I will need to create a Flickr account to see the images still...i'll get round to that soon! I have my own pictures to post too. I have a good pic of how the frenulum was before. It's great not to have to worry about it snapping and the head becomes more full now...maybe 30% expansion? I don't know but it's much better for me now.
Now...I do plan to do at least another tying in the future (soon perhaps) but one thing that discourages me is there is a fairly big vein i've been trying to avoid in my first two stitches. If i'm to do another stitch to go either deeper or further down the foreskin I will need to be VERY careful not to hit that vein, correct? I will need to research more about these veins but so far i'm lead to believe that it's an artery? I'm not sure if it's just a vein or an artery. Either way I kinda want to avoid threading a needle through that...
Any suggestions or tips for this? Would it actually be fine to tie a thread through this vein? Anyone know what the results are from tying a thread through or around a vein?
Until i'm 100% certain, i'm staying clear of tying through that vein.
Meanwhile i'm letting everything fully heal with moisturizing & healing creams etc. I now need to think about how to heal myself of this Phimotic Ring...that was my main objective from the start and with the Frenulum out of the way I can concentrate better on stretching/healing this ring.
Does anyone have any experience with Phimotic Rings? Mine is particularly bad as it has caused scarring from my previous attempts at stretching <
Now...I do plan to do at least another tying in the future (soon perhaps) but one thing that discourages me is there is a fairly big vein i've been trying to avoid in my first two stitches. If i'm to do another stitch to go either deeper or further down the foreskin I will need to be VERY careful not to hit that vein, correct? I will need to research more about these veins but so far i'm lead to believe that it's an artery? I'm not sure if it's just a vein or an artery. Either way I kinda want to avoid threading a needle through that...
Any suggestions or tips for this? Would it actually be fine to tie a thread through this vein? Anyone know what the results are from tying a thread through or around a vein?
Until i'm 100% certain, i'm staying clear of tying through that vein.
Meanwhile i'm letting everything fully heal with moisturizing & healing creams etc. I now need to think about how to heal myself of this Phimotic Ring...that was my main objective from the start and with the Frenulum out of the way I can concentrate better on stretching/healing this ring.
Does anyone have any experience with Phimotic Rings? Mine is particularly bad as it has caused scarring from my previous attempts at stretching <
Hi Phallus,
My first guess is its a vein, which should be less of a problem, as they often tie off veins to stop nose bleeds and "cure" varicose veins.
Will carry on reading and see if I can get any really reliable info.
I'm probably going to have the same problem with my next tie as well.
My first guess is its a vein, which should be less of a problem, as they often tie off veins to stop nose bleeds and "cure" varicose veins.
Will carry on reading and see if I can get any really reliable info.
I'm probably going to have the same problem with my next tie as well.
JanBarrel;477471 said:
Interesting read. If I've read it correctly then the vein I'm talking about is a frenular vein which helps drain the glans. That sounds like something we don't want to damage lol.
hey all- been a while. I made the mistake of using fishing line that was too thin- it wasn't cinching down enough as it had knotted up on itself. So on day 3, I had to snip the knot. I'll be making another attempt once I muster up the courage. I do alot of outdoors stuff and it really is annoying to have the tie in while rock climbing or running.
JanBarrel- I have a question for you. once you did the cut, did it ever feel like the fren was trying to attach itself again? Or did it heal up open, like it should?
JanBarrel- I have a question for you. once you did the cut, did it ever feel like the fren was trying to attach itself again? Or did it heal up open, like it should?
Hi Little wing, no, never felt like that at all. The skin below the tie had actually formed and healed before the tie was complete.
Have a look at d6_ph5 and d7_ph4 on my flickr account - the first shows when I had to replace the tie, and the second just after the frenulum broke - these should give a good idea of how well formed the skin was below the tie.
I was very surprised at how fast this skin formed.
Have a look at d6_ph5 and d7_ph4 on my flickr account - the first shows when I had to replace the tie, and the second just after the frenulum broke - these should give a good idea of how well formed the skin was below the tie.
I was very surprised at how fast this skin formed.
DLD, there is quite a good photo at http://www.picazen.com/FRENULUM/fren_pics.htm somewhere - the guy has actually marked the vein in the photo.
In the meantime I will try and get a photo of mine.
In the meantime I will try and get a photo of mine.
Hey all... I'm thinking of tying my frenulum but I spoke to a mate of mine who's a doctor and he said: 'even if you're really careful, there's still a high chance of infection'... Really want to tie it but don't want my dick to fall off lol... or get sepsis or anything... Anybody got any reassurance... Also Phallus I'm in UK too and was wondering if and where you bought numbing cream? Cheers
Hi Nervousbrit (I like the name !),
I was quite worried before I started, and did quite a bit of reading - even into things like gangrene. I think the fact that its just a piece of skin without much tissue is the one factor which makes it safer. I was just really careful, used alcohol swabs to clean everything (you get small sealed ones for people who have diabetes and have to inject themselves), boil the needle and then use some form of anti-septic cream about every two hours. Also, try and wash it with warm water and a bit of soap at least twice a day. I didn't sterilize the string I used. Putting the needle through was also not that painful at all - didn't use anything to numb the area.
The other thing I found out is that Africans use thorns to pierce the frenulum, or ants with large pincers to bite through them, and they seem to have very little trouble with infections. (this clinched it for me.)
Feel free to drop me a PM in this forum if you want to have a look at my photos on flickr, or if you PM me an email addr, I can email some to you. The slightly yellow substance below the tie was actually the anti-septic cream.
I would also like the others on this thread to comment please (especially Phallus, Tactical and All2real) - I can only speak from my experience.
(Maybe we should start a Wiki page ? with a summary of our experiences)
All2Real - how is the healing going ?
I was quite worried before I started, and did quite a bit of reading - even into things like gangrene. I think the fact that its just a piece of skin without much tissue is the one factor which makes it safer. I was just really careful, used alcohol swabs to clean everything (you get small sealed ones for people who have diabetes and have to inject themselves), boil the needle and then use some form of anti-septic cream about every two hours. Also, try and wash it with warm water and a bit of soap at least twice a day. I didn't sterilize the string I used. Putting the needle through was also not that painful at all - didn't use anything to numb the area.
The other thing I found out is that Africans use thorns to pierce the frenulum, or ants with large pincers to bite through them, and they seem to have very little trouble with infections. (this clinched it for me.)
Feel free to drop me a PM in this forum if you want to have a look at my photos on flickr, or if you PM me an email addr, I can email some to you. The slightly yellow substance below the tie was actually the anti-septic cream.
I would also like the others on this thread to comment please (especially Phallus, Tactical and All2real) - I can only speak from my experience.
(Maybe we should start a Wiki page ? with a summary of our experiences)
All2Real - how is the healing going ?
Hi everyone. Apologies for not replying in over a week it's been quite busy at my end! I will try to post more frenquently
. I think i've mentioned in previous posts what my procedure was and what I did in preparation for it but i'll quickly go over it again
On the day of my tying I retracted the foreskin and kept it retracted all day to get the skin used to it being in that state (I thought it might make things easier to work with for later on). Later that night I had a hot bath and cleaned the area with soap and thoroughly rinsed off with clean water to prevent any irritation from the soap. Afterwards I saturated the frenulum, glans and foreskin in anti-septic cream and allowed the foreskin to roll forward again. I left it like this for maybe a couple of hours, mostly because I was waiting for privacy in order to begin the tying but at least it gave it time for the cream to 'sit' for a while. When I finally retired to my room I sat down and retracted the foreskin again and gently dabbed the excess cream away with tissue to make the skin less slippery. Afterwards, I began applying about a pea-sized amount of the anaesthetic cream (EMLA 5%) to numb the area. Whilst the anaesthetic cream was working its magic I got my needle and thread and smothered them both in anti-septic cream. This took about 4 or 5 minutes which gave the anaesthetic plenty of time to soak in and become effective (it only takes about 2 mins to start feeling numb). Being nervous I spent roughly half an hour making sure of where I wanted the entry and exit point of the needle to be and before finally pushing it through I applied a fresh anaesthetic just to be sure. When the needle went through I kind of laughed to myself in realisation of what I was doing lol would never have thought I would be pushing a sewing needle through my banjo string! Anyway, I tied a double surgeons knot, snipped the excess thread off, saturated the area again in anti-septic cream, pushed the foreskin forward and went to sleep.
And that's basically my story for my first tying of the frenulum.
The next day I woke up and went to use the bathroom. I carefully retracted the foreskin and to my surprise there wasn't any pain apart from a slight sting which was only noticeable when I pressed on the knot. I would highly recommend retracting the foreskin when you urinate. I found that doing this prevented urine from collecting in or around the foreskin which it would do if it was pulled forward. As a guard, I would also keep some tissue covering the knot whilst you piss, just as another precaution. Don't worry if any does get into the stitch though, it happened a few times to me and I just gently dabbed the area with tissue, applied fresh anti-septic cream and went about my day. If you have the time and privacy, it would be good to soak the area in comfortably hot water for 5 or 10 mins when using the bathroom but don't worry if you can't. I rarely had the chance and it didn't hinder any progress for me Just keep fresh anti-septic cream on between bathroom visits and you'll be fine. Oh and wash your hands!
The Anaesthetic cream I used was EMLA Cream 5% and I bought it for I think about £7 from a Boots Pharmacy which was part of a Waitrose supermarket (It might have been £7 including the anti-septic cream, I can't remember now). I had to ask the guy there if they had any EMLA Cream 5% because it wasn't on display. He went away for a couple minutes and came back with a book the size of Yellow Pages full of all the medicines and creams. After browsing, he went away again and brought a little box back with the tube of cream in. I'm not sure what the book was for but i'm guessing it was to check the price and if a prescription was required or not. Anyway he sold it to me with no problems.
Sorry if this has been long but I wanted to share my tying experience to help reassure you and, more importantly, give you knowledge about the steps I took that are involved. If you follow the above hygiene steps then you will have no problems!
Let us know of your progress or if you need any help with anything let us know! rofl
Hey nervousbrit! Whilst your friend might be correct about the chance of infection I very much doubt that infection will occur if you prepare and take the precautions like those in this thread have done. I can only speak from my experience and go on the words of the others here that have done it but as long as you're not rubbing your dick in dog shit you should be finenervousbrit;478275 said:
. I think i've mentioned in previous posts what my procedure was and what I did in preparation for it but i'll quickly go over it again On the day of my tying I retracted the foreskin and kept it retracted all day to get the skin used to it being in that state (I thought it might make things easier to work with for later on). Later that night I had a hot bath and cleaned the area with soap and thoroughly rinsed off with clean water to prevent any irritation from the soap. Afterwards I saturated the frenulum, glans and foreskin in anti-septic cream and allowed the foreskin to roll forward again. I left it like this for maybe a couple of hours, mostly because I was waiting for privacy in order to begin the tying but at least it gave it time for the cream to 'sit' for a while. When I finally retired to my room I sat down and retracted the foreskin again and gently dabbed the excess cream away with tissue to make the skin less slippery. Afterwards, I began applying about a pea-sized amount of the anaesthetic cream (EMLA 5%) to numb the area. Whilst the anaesthetic cream was working its magic I got my needle and thread and smothered them both in anti-septic cream. This took about 4 or 5 minutes which gave the anaesthetic plenty of time to soak in and become effective (it only takes about 2 mins to start feeling numb). Being nervous I spent roughly half an hour making sure of where I wanted the entry and exit point of the needle to be and before finally pushing it through I applied a fresh anaesthetic just to be sure. When the needle went through I kind of laughed to myself in realisation of what I was doing lol would never have thought I would be pushing a sewing needle through my banjo string! Anyway, I tied a double surgeons knot, snipped the excess thread off, saturated the area again in anti-septic cream, pushed the foreskin forward and went to sleep.
And that's basically my story for my first tying of the frenulum.
The next day I woke up and went to use the bathroom. I carefully retracted the foreskin and to my surprise there wasn't any pain apart from a slight sting which was only noticeable when I pressed on the knot. I would highly recommend retracting the foreskin when you urinate. I found that doing this prevented urine from collecting in or around the foreskin which it would do if it was pulled forward. As a guard, I would also keep some tissue covering the knot whilst you piss, just as another precaution. Don't worry if any does get into the stitch though, it happened a few times to me and I just gently dabbed the area with tissue, applied fresh anti-septic cream and went about my day. If you have the time and privacy, it would be good to soak the area in comfortably hot water for 5 or 10 mins when using the bathroom but don't worry if you can't. I rarely had the chance and it didn't hinder any progress for me
Just keep fresh anti-septic cream on between bathroom visits and you'll be fine. Oh and wash your hands! The Anaesthetic cream I used was EMLA Cream 5% and I bought it for I think about £7 from a Boots Pharmacy which was part of a Waitrose supermarket
(It might have been £7 including the anti-septic cream, I can't remember now). I had to ask the guy there if they had any EMLA Cream 5% because it wasn't on display. He went away for a couple minutes and came back with a book the size of Yellow Pages full of all the medicines and creams. After browsing, he went away again and brought a little box back with the tube of cream in. I'm not sure what the book was for but i'm guessing it was to check the price and if a prescription was required or not. Anyway he sold it to me with no problems.Sorry if this has been long but I wanted to share my tying experience to help reassure you and, more importantly, give you knowledge about the steps I took that are involved. If you follow the above hygiene steps then you will have no problems!
Let us know of your progress or if you need any help with anything let us know! rofl
Just wanted to add to my previous post that during the week that my stitch was in, I still went training at the gym every day and this didn't cause any problems in terms of hygiene and infections. Shower afterwards, fresh anti-septic cream and all was good!
Thanks for the advice Jan and Phallus... I think I'm going to do it... I mentioned it to my other half and they kind of freaked out a bit but I'm persuading myself round to just go for it...
Can I ask though: How tight was your frenulum before?.. Because mine's tight but not so tight that I can't retract my foreskin at all... Are there any lasting problems you've found? Also what sort of needle and thread did you use? Did you try and get hold of surgical thread?
I suppose after thinking about it... infection isn't any more likely than if you ripped your frenulum like a mate of mine did :O
Can I ask though: How tight was your frenulum before?.. Because mine's tight but not so tight that I can't retract my foreskin at all... Are there any lasting problems you've found? Also what sort of needle and thread did you use? Did you try and get hold of surgical thread?
I suppose after thinking about it... infection isn't any more likely than if you ripped your frenulum like a mate of mine did :O
nervousbrit;478641 said:
It was so fast and sudden that I did not even know till I saw it. No infections at all but it did take about a month to heal for stretching. It stung mostly and eventually the scarring became strong enough to stretch.
nervousbrit;478641 said:
Yea my frenulum was pretty tight in the end but it sounds similar to what yours is now. Tight but didn't prevent retraction. I'm uploading some before and after pictures on Flickr soon if you want to see them. I think JanBarrel can get you invited to the Fren_tying group on there if you're interested
My frenulum has always been on the short side being roughly 1cm in length and 2.5mm wide. This never caused much of a problem in retracting the foreskin but it was noticeably tight and it prevented rough sex or else it would tear.
What made it a problem for me was the slight phimotic ring i've had since...I guess I was 12 years old maybe? At the time and up until the age of about 21 it had always been this white tight ring of about 0.5mm but hadn't caused any problems until it started suddenly getting worse in the last year and a half (I'm 22 now). With the tight white ring getting thicker and tighter as it scarred, it began to cause problems and even pain when pulling the foreskin back. This extra tightness from the ring is what put more pressure and strain on my already tight frenulum, and gave me my first tiny tear which stung like hell.
I haven't found anything that I would call a long lasting problem since I tied my first knot. As far as I can tell there isn't much that can go wrong. It's just a flap of skin that is slowly cut in half with thread and then it heals into itself.The only thing I can think of that might be a potential concern is the issue of how much scarring will be visible afterwards, but even that isn't anything to worry about in my opinion as there is next to no scarring. Any scar will fade and blend in with time and care. In my experience ANYTHING was better than living with the tightness and worrying about it tearing 50% of the time when I could retract it. I've no regrets, it's much better now.
I did first try to get hold of surgical thread along with those curved suture needles but surprisingly couldn't find any, and the pharmacy didn't have any. But, after researching, I found that any thread that didn't wear away after a day would be good enough. The thread I used was this elasticated sewing thread which was I think 50% Cotton and 50% Polyester (Black in colour). The needle I used was the smallest sewing needle I could find. It was the smallest one in this pack of sewing needles I bought at the end of a shopping isle for about £2. I'll also upload pictures of everything I used to Flickr
Hope this helps!
My Frenulum was probably 1.5 cm, and also only a problem sometimes.
I used a 0.9mm need (No.4, embroidery, I think) - what was good, is it has slots cut into the back, so the yarn lies in these slots as it pulls through.
The yarn I used was croche cotton, but I couldn't get all 3 strands through the needle, so I had to strip one strand out and use the two remaining strands.
I found that a single strand broke very easily.
I was worried about losing sensitivity, but if anything, I think its slightly more sensitive now.
Please feel free to ask more questions, I will also post a photo of the needle I used on the flickr page.
Phallus, after seeing my photos, how do you think your elastic option compares to the string I used ?
I used a 0.9mm need (No.4, embroidery, I think) - what was good, is it has slots cut into the back, so the yarn lies in these slots as it pulls through.
The yarn I used was croche cotton, but I couldn't get all 3 strands through the needle, so I had to strip one strand out and use the two remaining strands.
I found that a single strand broke very easily.
I was worried about losing sensitivity, but if anything, I think its slightly more sensitive now.
Please feel free to ask more questions, I will also post a photo of the needle I used on the flickr page.
Phallus, after seeing my photos, how do you think your elastic option compares to the string I used ?
NervousBrit, please try to get some photos if you can, especially remember to get some before photos - I didn't as my tying was very spur of the moment.
If you can, practice taking the photos first - I found it difficult to hold the camera and the penis to get the right angle and lighting (direct sunlight seemed to work the best).
I did mine without telling my better half - will be interesting to hear your comments on this aspect as well
Good luck, and please keep us posted !
If you can, practice taking the photos first - I found it difficult to hold the camera and the penis to get the right angle and lighting (direct sunlight seemed to work the best).
I did mine without telling my better half - will be interesting to hear your comments on this aspect as well
Good luck, and please keep us posted !
Yeah think it would be useful to see the photos... I'll take some and post them too... I'm 23 phallus so want to get it sorted while I'm still young... I find it holds me back a bit too... Though I'm going to have to do it when my other half is away for a while so I don't get my nuts chopped off!
Question though: Does the scar hurt when you're having sex? Also (and this is sort of a different subject) Do you both do stretching/ lenthening/ jelquing exercises? Does it actually work? And does frenulum tying affect that?
I'm going to go get the stuff tomorrow and hopefully build up the nerve to do it Sunday...
Question though: Does the scar hurt when you're having sex? Also (and this is sort of a different subject) Do you both do stretching/ lenthening/ jelquing exercises? Does it actually work? And does frenulum tying affect that?
I'm going to go get the stuff tomorrow and hopefully build up the nerve to do it Sunday...
JanBarrel;478769 said:
After seeing the photos it looks like your thread was maybe twice the thickness of what I used. Yours was more cotton based too yea? Mine was 50% Cotton and 50% Polyesther which I believe made my thread more wire-like and not as fluffy with the tiny strands of cotton. I reckon this might make the cutting process slightly faster if it's more polyesther based. I'm sure that whatever thread is used, as long as it's TIGHT and durable, it will do the job no problem, but I will say I liked the elasticated thread due to it's constant cutting effect as the frenulum got thinner. Judging by your photos though it looks like you had a nice clean cut so i'm not sure. Perhaps the difference is so minute is doesn't really matter
When I do my next tying to go as deep as I dare for as much slackness as I can get, i'll stick to the thread i've used as it's what i'm used to now.Originally I was wanting to use either surgical thread or a nylon/elastic nylon thread but I ended up with a cotton polyesther thread used for sewing!
nervousbrit;478785 said:
Yea if you're going to get it done then i'd probably get it done sooner rather than later. But don't rush into it if you're not 100% sure yet. I know what you mean by being held back. I don't want a girlfriend until everything is sorted down there lol.
nervousbrit;478785 said:
No the scar doesn't hurt at all. After the initial healing was done it was still sensitive but this sensitivity soon turns to a pleasurable type as the scar tissue begins to blend in with the rest of the foreskin/shaft skin.
I have done stretching and jelqing in the past along with some clamping. Unfortunately I was forced to stop due to my frenulum and phimosis problem so I started searching for a solution to it and discovered this tying process. Before I stopped the Penis Enlargement exercises though I think I was making gradual gains but again I wasn't consistent enough to cement any major gains from it. I really do want to begin the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] what DLD posted but I need to fix my phimosis.
In my experience, yes it does work but it's mostly a gradual growing process just like any exercise is, such as weightlifting or bodybuilding. Stretching lengthens the ligaments and allows more of the inner shaft to be brought outside whilst jelqing causes fibres to rip and repair back bigger, creating more cells basically. The bigger the chambers of the penis is, the more blood it can hold! That's my basic understanding of it. Can't wait to begin again...damn phimosis <