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Hey Al,
1. Like I said in the last posting (you actually quoted me on it in the next response!): "This goes out NOT to Big Al, but for everyone else who is reading: I don't care WHAT forum you post pics on, if you are a Penis Enlargementer and you are doing it to HELP people, I support you, no matter HOW you take the pictures. I'm serious."
See, (and now more than ever I see how much IN AGREEMENT we are, which is awesome and now this wave of mutual understanding needs to be ridden by us so we can figure out a way to make this kind of measuring and pic taking a usual thing: I will be glad to do it first), here's what confuses me:
1. You say "I stated that there were a lot of credible before and after pics and that many of them should come close to your criteria. The fact that they don't fit all of your specific criteria shouldn't invalidate them or be met with such criticism. In my opinion, as long as the before and after pictures are measured consistently for each pic, it's a valid testimonial." YET then state "The arrogance is in your demand that everyone else do so and that it's the defacto standard just because it's the method that you've adopted. How about measuring from the side. Or NBPenis Enlargement (many, including some health professionals, consider that method to be the only way to measure). Or flaccid stretched. Some men even measure along the underside, although most of us consider that "cheating". I've even heard of guys measuring using water displacement, which would actually be the best method for showing total volumetric gains (if done correctly). They all have their place and each measures a different aspect of progress. If you're content if measuring in just one fashion, more power to you." AND THEN STATE RIGHT AFTER THIS: "Erect bone pressed measurement pics are the best because they show the best proof of real gains."
I'm seriously confused. No joking around and no getting pissy; REALLY confused. The Defacto Standard? MY Standard?
DLD and anyone who has a penis knows about how MUCH of your cock can go into someone knows it all stops at that public bone. Everyone in the Penis Enlargement community knows this for sure. You yourself just admitted it it's the "best" (meaning MOST ACCURATE, RIGHT, CORRECT, etc.).
So why would you bring up all these other known methods of measuring when, even IF those folks who took those pics were in earnest, knew that the ULTIMATE way of measuring is BPenis EnlargementL? I can go
Frank Zappa on many different types of measurements. I can come up with so many that we could have a great laugh over it all, come up with ALL different types of numbers. And I could get others, unknowingly, to do the same, MANY others (just like people are conned by these full of shit �naked people movies� stars who get "measured" like in Bang Bros where they look 11" but they're really BPenis EnlargementL 7" or 8"). But, no matter what I do and what numbers I give, I'm not doing the appropriate measurement. You obviously, and rightly so, agree to this.
NOW, I WILL say that it is very possible that people sometimes see others taking pics at less than accurate angles (I will leave out negative words like 'bogus', 'incorrect' and 'deceptive' because you've already, even after I explained how seriously caring my intentions were, accused me of "alienating what other people have done in this community by claiming their pics aren't good enough") and then assume that's the way to do it. Some people are just inept, many are earnest, etc. And yes, there are a select few who are wasting everyone's time.
You and I and everyone obviously needs to correct this. If we want to bring Penis Enlargement out of the underground, THIS is the first step. Young men watching �naked people movies� will KNOW when these "huge" guys are measured incorrectly that they are obviously hiding something and that will help DRAMATICALLY their psyches. That's just one positive in what should be millions of them if everyone here took BPenis EnlargementL's. I am embarking on a huge mission, getting 2" legit BPenis EnlargementL inches out of me, and now I'm even more stoked to do it.
2. "We'll accomplish a lot more by working together than by getting upset over what's essentially a trivial topic."
Show of honest hands: Who here thinks that THIS TOPIC, and I'm especially looking for feedback from serious Penis Enlargementers, is a "trivial" topic? Namely, finding a uniform way of doing precise measurements for yourself, the Penis Enlargement community and skeptics? Or why it is that there are so few accurate examples following what even Al has admitted is the "best" way to measure? LILI9ZERO doesn't think its trivial. I know for SURE DLD doesn't think its trivial, and he started this whole world of exercise and goal achieving and support.
Do YOU, Big Al, REALLY think this is all trivial?
3. "To show progress, they should be measured in all images at the same angle, from the same position, and using the same measuring device each time for maximum consistency. I've even seen some pics with coins or other common objects next to the ruler for references. That would further strengthen the evidence. Clarity and good lighting should also be sought after, but that can be affected by the quality of the equipment, the photographic environment, and the computer program the images are saved to. You should make the image reasonably large to get the entire penis in one shot and to avoid having the image degrade too much from the upload. I also advise measuring with a cloth tape measure as opposed to a ruler so that you get a more accurate reading by measuring along the curve. Using Vaseline or similarly viscous lube should help the tape stick. From dealing with numerous clients, I've learned from them that the best pics are taken with a programmable camera that allows you to use both your hands (for measuring and positioning) or by someone else to take the pic for you while you're setting up."
Fantastic advice from a pro. Make it as difficult as possible for anyone to deny your gains.
Al, if you email me the link to the obscene forum (I think I can handle it), I promise not to show it to ANYONE. And if you are ever down for scheming a plan of attack to help the Penis Enlargement community break open further publicly with me, I would be glad to speak with you! You TOO DLD (although I am wondering if he is reading these; I hope so and, no matter what he has to say, or show us, he will write!).
Again, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND EVERYBODY!
S
1. Like I said in the last posting (you actually quoted me on it in the next response!): "This goes out NOT to Big Al, but for everyone else who is reading: I don't care WHAT forum you post pics on, if you are a Penis Enlargementer and you are doing it to HELP people, I support you, no matter HOW you take the pictures. I'm serious."
See, (and now more than ever I see how much IN AGREEMENT we are, which is awesome and now this wave of mutual understanding needs to be ridden by us so we can figure out a way to make this kind of measuring and pic taking a usual thing: I will be glad to do it first), here's what confuses me:
1. You say "I stated that there were a lot of credible before and after pics and that many of them should come close to your criteria. The fact that they don't fit all of your specific criteria shouldn't invalidate them or be met with such criticism. In my opinion, as long as the before and after pictures are measured consistently for each pic, it's a valid testimonial." YET then state "The arrogance is in your demand that everyone else do so and that it's the defacto standard just because it's the method that you've adopted. How about measuring from the side. Or NBPenis Enlargement (many, including some health professionals, consider that method to be the only way to measure). Or flaccid stretched. Some men even measure along the underside, although most of us consider that "cheating". I've even heard of guys measuring using water displacement, which would actually be the best method for showing total volumetric gains (if done correctly). They all have their place and each measures a different aspect of progress. If you're content if measuring in just one fashion, more power to you." AND THEN STATE RIGHT AFTER THIS: "Erect bone pressed measurement pics are the best because they show the best proof of real gains."
I'm seriously confused. No joking around and no getting pissy; REALLY confused. The Defacto Standard? MY Standard?
DLD and anyone who has a penis knows about how MUCH of your cock can go into someone knows it all stops at that public bone. Everyone in the Penis Enlargement community knows this for sure. You yourself just admitted it it's the "best" (meaning MOST ACCURATE, RIGHT, CORRECT, etc.).
So why would you bring up all these other known methods of measuring when, even IF those folks who took those pics were in earnest, knew that the ULTIMATE way of measuring is BPenis EnlargementL? I can go
Frank Zappa on many different types of measurements. I can come up with so many that we could have a great laugh over it all, come up with ALL different types of numbers. And I could get others, unknowingly, to do the same, MANY others (just like people are conned by these full of shit �naked people movies� stars who get "measured" like in Bang Bros where they look 11" but they're really BPenis EnlargementL 7" or 8"). But, no matter what I do and what numbers I give, I'm not doing the appropriate measurement. You obviously, and rightly so, agree to this. NOW, I WILL say that it is very possible that people sometimes see others taking pics at less than accurate angles (I will leave out negative words like 'bogus', 'incorrect' and 'deceptive' because you've already, even after I explained how seriously caring my intentions were, accused me of "alienating what other people have done in this community by claiming their pics aren't good enough") and then assume that's the way to do it. Some people are just inept, many are earnest, etc. And yes, there are a select few who are wasting everyone's time.
You and I and everyone obviously needs to correct this. If we want to bring Penis Enlargement out of the underground, THIS is the first step. Young men watching �naked people movies� will KNOW when these "huge" guys are measured incorrectly that they are obviously hiding something and that will help DRAMATICALLY their psyches. That's just one positive in what should be millions of them if everyone here took BPenis EnlargementL's. I am embarking on a huge mission, getting 2" legit BPenis EnlargementL inches out of me, and now I'm even more stoked to do it.
2. "We'll accomplish a lot more by working together than by getting upset over what's essentially a trivial topic."
Show of honest hands: Who here thinks that THIS TOPIC, and I'm especially looking for feedback from serious Penis Enlargementers, is a "trivial" topic? Namely, finding a uniform way of doing precise measurements for yourself, the Penis Enlargement community and skeptics? Or why it is that there are so few accurate examples following what even Al has admitted is the "best" way to measure? LILI9ZERO doesn't think its trivial. I know for SURE DLD doesn't think its trivial, and he started this whole world of exercise and goal achieving and support.
Do YOU, Big Al, REALLY think this is all trivial?
3. "To show progress, they should be measured in all images at the same angle, from the same position, and using the same measuring device each time for maximum consistency. I've even seen some pics with coins or other common objects next to the ruler for references. That would further strengthen the evidence. Clarity and good lighting should also be sought after, but that can be affected by the quality of the equipment, the photographic environment, and the computer program the images are saved to. You should make the image reasonably large to get the entire penis in one shot and to avoid having the image degrade too much from the upload. I also advise measuring with a cloth tape measure as opposed to a ruler so that you get a more accurate reading by measuring along the curve. Using Vaseline or similarly viscous lube should help the tape stick. From dealing with numerous clients, I've learned from them that the best pics are taken with a programmable camera that allows you to use both your hands (for measuring and positioning) or by someone else to take the pic for you while you're setting up."
Fantastic advice from a pro. Make it as difficult as possible for anyone to deny your gains.
Al, if you email me the link to the obscene forum (I think I can handle it), I promise not to show it to ANYONE. And if you are ever down for scheming a plan of attack to help the Penis Enlargement community break open further publicly with me, I would be glad to speak with you! You TOO DLD (although I am wondering if he is reading these; I hope so and, no matter what he has to say, or show us, he will write!).
Again, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND EVERYBODY!
S
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