Big Al,
For the most part, excellent clarifications of your previous points. I appreciate it.
But, just for the record, in reponse to your previous post:
1. I'm sorry you think that CAPS INDICATE OVERDEFENSIVENESS AND AGGRESSION. I write lyrically, so in my mind when someone is reading and hearing a voice say the words, the voice raises slightly at CAPPenis EnlargementD words for emphasis.
2. I've been extremely objective and extremely OFFENSIVE (as opposed to defensive) about many things during this thread, and granted, there may have been a few points I could have been MORE objective of. Point taken. Then again, everyone can simply read for themselves whether or not they think this and make their own assumptions.
However, the one thing I have been immovable on is the criteria with which these pictures (and again, YOU say there's many of them, I say they're aren't, but I'll get to that in a second) are taken: DLD's Measuring Rules.
3. Don't get the "emphasis MINE" in your rebuttals.
4. Your quote:
"If you have been through all of the forums and seen all of the pics, them your statements suggest that you don't believe them to be legitimate. I highly doubt that you've been through each and every forum, so your statements are premature."
You took the time, Al, to find quotes of mine and mark them in your last response to show that I: 1. state that NO ONE has these SPenis EnlargementCIFIC pics I'm looking for and 2. that I said that TWO OF YOUR LINKS of PICS YOU THINK ARE LEGIT were SO NOT LEGIT OBJECTIVELY that I used the phrase
"completely full of shit.///There are pictures of DLD measuring himself throughout this site and on some of the other forums. That's part of what I'm referring to when I stated for you to calm down- you're jumping to conclusions and coming across as a bit abrasive. The all caps don't help. ".
REPSONSE TO ALL THAT?: 1. I have done numerous searches on BIB HANGER FORUM, here, Penis Enlargement GYM thingy and some searches on �other forum�. I have looked at at least 75 threads where the person purports to have the pics. I looked at them: lots of different kinds of pics (many of which could very well be legitimate!) but NONE OF THEM FIT MY CRITERIA (oops, AND DLD's) for TRUE BPenis EnlargementL/Erect Girth measurements. None. AND I DID THESE SEARCHES in the beginning of my posts. So you're completely and totally 100% wrong to say that I haven't been looking far and wide. 2. Where are these pics of DLD? Anyone? I've also searched them. I found a number 10 pic on the
MOS website that is small, the ruler numbers are completely unreadable, etc. from years ago; I'm sure you know it. DLD is for real. Where are the others? And is he fully erect in them? Appropriately measured? I'm not being a dick here, but you're saying I haven't looked around and I have. Also, no one who is reading these posts is putting in their two cents either regarding where to find them.
Which begs the questions: You. Why haven't YOU, since you obviously know where these pics are, shown them to me? DLD said that he has BPenis EnlargementL measured pics of Ramone (Jaz?) and that he'll post them. Since you KNOW where they are, I am begging you (seriously) to show me them. You keep saying they are around.
5. This quote gets me:
"To assume that everyone measuring and posting pics across the net abides by one set of rules that may be particular to this site is arrogant.": Arrogant, huh? Now YOU'RE being arrogant. That IS THE one rule on how to measure your true size! That's like saying there's more than one way to touch the tip of your index finger to the tip of your nose. Just because people don't do it DLD's way doesn't mean they shouldn't! What's another way to measure that is as completely and totally accurate as the criteria DLD breaks out? And even if someone didn't know DLD or
MOS or any of this, the accurate way of measuring this way is ALL OVER THE NET. You accuse me of being aggressive? How else not to be when I'm being told something so absurd?
6.
"Depending on where your pics end up on (the high quality ones do get around), I think you'll be unpleasantly surprised. I'm not saying this to discourage you (on the contrary), just to prepare you."
And?
7.
"Just do me a favor- next time you see a set of pics from another forum, please don't be so quick to pass judgment. They may not ascribe to the same set of rules as you do, but they're still valuable as evidence that Penis Enlargement worked for them.":
The biggest quote of yours of all time here.
This goes out NOT to Big Al, but for everyone else who is reading: I don't care WHAT forum you post pics on, if you are a Penis Enlargementer and you are doing it to HELP people, I support you, no matter HOW you take the pictures. I'm serious. But do yourselves a favor from here on out (emphasis: here on out): take them the right way. As Big Al says:
"Stevie, I'm not disagreeing with what you're trying to do. I think a localized collection of before and after pics taken under strict conditions that aren't associated with a commercial endeavor and that are somehow verified would be a great thing for Penis Enlargement."
Everybody, whether I come off as abrasive (Big Al unfortunately thinks so; anybody else?), or constructive or whatever, LISTEN TO BIG AL'S RED MARKED QUOTE ABOVE! Here's a moderator, a successful Penis Enlargementer giving you the goods. And "strict conditions", at minimum, mean (and correct me if I'm wrong, Big Al), following simple rules: 1. Full erection, 2. Ruler with both ends and numbers clearly shown BONE PRESSED and 3. Clear photograph. THAT is all I'm asking for.
Big Al, you care, you're well-informed, and my apologies if I came across as anything other than concerned, informed (based on all my searches for these pics and genuine curiosity) and hopeful that someday this whole Penis Enlargement thing can come out from the underground and the minimum size of a male's dingaling will be, oh I don't know, 8"?
Penis EnlargementACE AND LOVE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR (in Caps)
Stevie