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A thread worth being BUMPed! 
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dmoney101;575189 said:
It helped me cement my gains look http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?82616-Pe-works-longlivemos&p=575173#post575173
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I have to say I completely disagree with the first statement about the newbie routine being to intense!
I gained tremendously from it and had absolutely no issues what so ever when I came to pain, damage, recovery!
what may be to much for some maybe to little for others, and the simple fact that men have been making incredible and quick gains using the newb routine dld created since way back to 03/04, says that it does what its expected to!
I gained tremendously from it and had absolutely no issues what so ever when I came to pain, damage, recovery!
what may be to much for some maybe to little for others, and the simple fact that men have been making incredible and quick gains using the newb routine dld created since way back to 03/04, says that it does what its expected to!
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Hello everyone, new to the site and Penis Enlargement in general.
My two cents about what the doc said. When plastic surgeons were trying to develop a surgery to enlarge the penis they noticed that there was a substantial amount of tissue that remained in the body. The obvious technique to enlarge the penis (lengthen at least) would be to get the tissue that is on the inside of the body, outside the body. This was performed by bisecting the suspensory ligament. I believe that the doc that gave that advice was making the assumption that growth occurred because the suspensory ligament was being stretched, and only because the suspensory ligament was being stretched. This is most likely not the case. Though the initial quick gains that you get are likely due to the stretching of the ligament, the slower gains that take place do so because under constant traction (external force), this force in "sensed" by the cells which initiates growth in a slow, but natural way. This growth occurs because the cells are attempting to decrease the internal forces they are "feeling" due to the external force. So, it is true growth (hyperplasia) as opposed to just stretching.
Examples of this can be seen when tissue expanders are used to grow more skin for people who have had burns, or women that are getting breast implants. There are even some surgeons in China who have drilled into women's tibia and fibula with screws that are then attached to external tension rods. Everyday the tension rod is lengthened by turning a screw one thread. This constant tension causes both bones that make up the shin to grow along the line of tension and the women eventually get taller (I understand it is not comfortable!). (By the way...the tribe of women that have the "long necks" by using the rings is not an example of this. Their neck does not actually grow, what they are doing is crushing their rib cage so it "appears" longer).
My two cents about what the doc said. When plastic surgeons were trying to develop a surgery to enlarge the penis they noticed that there was a substantial amount of tissue that remained in the body. The obvious technique to enlarge the penis (lengthen at least) would be to get the tissue that is on the inside of the body, outside the body. This was performed by bisecting the suspensory ligament. I believe that the doc that gave that advice was making the assumption that growth occurred because the suspensory ligament was being stretched, and only because the suspensory ligament was being stretched. This is most likely not the case. Though the initial quick gains that you get are likely due to the stretching of the ligament, the slower gains that take place do so because under constant traction (external force), this force in "sensed" by the cells which initiates growth in a slow, but natural way. This growth occurs because the cells are attempting to decrease the internal forces they are "feeling" due to the external force. So, it is true growth (hyperplasia) as opposed to just stretching.
Examples of this can be seen when tissue expanders are used to grow more skin for people who have had burns, or women that are getting breast implants. There are even some surgeons in China who have drilled into women's tibia and fibula with screws that are then attached to external tension rods. Everyday the tension rod is lengthened by turning a screw one thread. This constant tension causes both bones that make up the shin to grow along the line of tension and the women eventually get taller (I understand it is not comfortable!). (By the way...the tribe of women that have the "long necks" by using the rings is not an example of this. Their neck does not actually grow, what they are doing is crushing their rib cage so it "appears" longer).
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I wrote this awhile ago. I've figured out Penis Enlargement is as simple as the following:
1. Manual stretch until it's not doing anything anymore.
2. Hang BTC
3. Cement length
4. Pump and girth work while cementing
If you have lots of lig potential, you could probably get away with pumping and hanging. Everyone is different but those 4 steps will generally work for anyone. Just gotta figure out the technical aspects of each.
PS. PGE1 is probably effective as a means to stay plumped after a pump session. Same idea as keeping in an extender etc. Penis at largest state for longest amount of time = good.
1. Manual stretch until it's not doing anything anymore.
2. Hang BTC
3. Cement length
4. Pump and girth work while cementing
If you have lots of lig potential, you could probably get away with pumping and hanging. Everyone is different but those 4 steps will generally work for anyone. Just gotta figure out the technical aspects of each.
PS. PGE1 is probably effective as a means to stay plumped after a pump session. Same idea as keeping in an extender etc. Penis at largest state for longest amount of time = good.
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Nice post
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It explains my experience. I figured out how to stretch all on my own before finding this site. Did all the stretching I could and pretty much peaked at my current length of 7.75. All of my work out was on my suspensory ligament. It was all focused on pulling down as well. Only after joining here did I start to do girth work. I've gained plenty of girth but no luck on the length. Guess it's time to start hanging.
What city is that doctor in?
What city is that doctor in?
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Gangsta Urologist (R.I.P.) said not to hang straight down too much because it risks nerve damage.MikeShlort;575462 said:
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toucHydromaxyjunk;576270 said:
When you're unconditioned it is notmal to have an injury. Plus, the weight you hang can be light.... . Gangsta urologist was a great thread, though
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Vetiver;576271 said:
Not entirely sure. I've stopped doing straight down. I can only guess that it is related to possibly damaging the dorsal nerve.
Here is the full Gangsta quote from Neutronstar:
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Satyr;576293 said:
Even though I think this thread was very interesting- I see no reason people should follow what's written on these thread religiously. This community has been up for more than 10 years now and I've seen no thread where someone says he had his nerves damaged or whatsoever. I am not saying the information is inaccurate, but there are lots of stuff on these 2 threads (the Gangsta Urologist one) and this one that contradict what DLD has said and even some information in both thread is contradicted.
(I was just about to quote some of the info, but I saw the 1st post of the thread posted ny Neurostar has been deleted. If anyone has it copied- I'd love to have a copy of this read myself
). "He told me the majority of stretching should be down in the down direction (all angles), but other directions such as straight out and straight up are important to do as well. He told me the more angles the better."- this is quoted from the 1st post of this thread. This is the 1st contradiction- the gangsta urologist says you must not stretch downward and this guy says it is the best angle (along with BTC) to stretch.
And I remember Mike saying that stretching with normal grip (the one most of us use- where you grip before the glans or an inch before it (varies for everyone)) and the gangsta urologist said that one should stretch at the base of the shaft (I don't remember it being like that 100%, but I remember reading it through the thread).
And how many of you have tried the fast mini jelqs he was talking about?
I don't know... but if you have a copy of the thread- please PM it to me or just paste it here
Tell me what you guys think, I think we can make a good discussion on it
Zam, I don't see a contradiction in the quoted sentence and I can't remember one. Iirc and as it is quoted above by toucHydromaxyjunk the only thing he warned neutron off was the straight btc stretch, not any kind of downward stretch (just to be clear: I don't consider the btc stretch as downward stretch! btc is btc, downward is downward).
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