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I would just like to add to this thread that I have had both.....I got a circumcision a couple years back....

It was the worst Circ in the history of the world....
Sorry Kong, you have never seen a bad circ scar buddy.....and other problems
(show you waht I mean when I get a webcam or a digital camera)

And it really is Mutilation, like Kong says (you sometimes may think the guy takes it too far, but he dont)
When I took the bandage off, I wanted to kill myself, it didnt look like anything but something that should be hanging in a meatlocker


But to day after all the shit has healed, and after some Penis Enlargement to make the circ scar look a little better, well I can honestly say I like it cut, even though I had a REALLY REALLY shitty circumcision
If I could do it all over, I wouldnt have got it, but if it was a good circumcison, i woulda liked it better......
See I got it at a shitty small town hospital, where the doc probly doesnt get too much practice

Nothing a little Penis Enlargement cant help on the self consciousness

I feel so bad for you, Vlad. I toally believe you and wish someone had tried to talk you out of it, but people are so embarassed talking about penises. At least you have healed and have gotten used to it, and now you know that you can restore if you begin to lose glans sensitivity over time! Some do. Some don't.

I will try to find those links for you, penguins. It's not made up, but I don't know now where I found it on the web.

Ok not to still too much up but heres what im saying... SOME people do like being circumsized, me for one. Just if you plan on having a kid soon, don't automatically think you are doing your son a favor by not circurcising him so he'll be "better off",this desicion is not to be taken lightly. A couple months ago me and my friends (both male and female) we're talknig to one of my friends' sister (as she was having a child) about circumcision. Every single person said if they had a son they would circumcision.

They female opinion in that discussion... Cut or uncut doesn't matter however some of the girls were less inclined to want to blow an uncut penis. So when it came down to it, cut or uncut didn't matter but if they had to make a choice it would be cut. (By the way they never said anything about sex being better if your cut or uncut...same concept of any sized cock, its all how you use it).

That is my opinion i would be pretty mad at my parents if they didn't circumsize me. However, i jsut turned 20. The first time i've had sex was 15 and its been a constant basis since. I've always been horny as hell and when hanging out with my first girlfriend sex was usually twice a day. I cannot imagine lossing my sex drive but i guess it comes with age. I have not experienced that but can completely understand that if a man begins losing his sex drive and FR helped then i would do it if it could help.

Again my original post was wondering if european girls thought cuts dick were wierd becuase im assuming they don't see much!!! But yeah i just want future dads out there to know the baby doesn't have a choice but some would rather be cut and if they are not, i've heard its much more complicated to circumsice an adult (but im not positive).

Kong i do take all your points into account. Just two things.
"Jews began to circumcise as a "covenant with God" (good sales pitch)"
Good sales pitch? For one, im not trying to pitch anything i'm not pro or anti circumcision i believe the parents can make that decision im jsut gving my opinion. But jewish and catholics may have a problem with refering to this covenent as a sales pitch. The first circumcision occured (if you want to believe it or not its anyones call) with abraham sometime around 1800 BC. He supposedly did the procedure to himself as a promise to serve god, while god promised to serve the jews saying they would always be in exsistence. Since the minority jews are still around and the mojority powerful nations such as romans are not, many jews still see the procede as sacred. I don't know thoguh im not jewish but you still learn all this being catholic (althoguh im not practicing).

One more thing. Sorry Kong that your son was circumsized but i can still see it avoidible by telling the doctor, hospital etc. in writing that you do not want your son to be circumcised. I know my mom went to our regular doctor as most people try to so jsut let him/her know before everything.... anyway thats my rambling for a while the floor is open

Oh yeah, if there are any practicing jews can you put your opinion if this is a true belief and everything

Not your sales pitch, Mick. I'm refering to Jewish leaders, trying to convince their followers to do it to their own penises and the penises of their children, back in the old days when it was a new and strange practice. Good sales pitch telling them that it was something that God wanted them to do.

Anyhoo, you younguns enjoy your weiners. Just remember what you can do to fix em when wear and tear starts to diminsh your sex drives!

And don't worry about the smell. Most chicks are okay with it. Just wash your pecker and you should be okay!

Emm The Chrsitian church especialy the cathliks don't cut dick's! I mean nearly complet southern europ is Cathlik and belive me They don't cut dicks! Never have.

Roman Cathlik isn't around anymore? lol that is absolutly not true. The Roman Cathlik (christian) Church is one of the biggest religions in the world

hopful said:

Emm The Chrsitian church especialy the cathliks don't cut dick's! I mean nearly complet southern europ is Cathlik and belive me They don't cut dicks! Never have.

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Bro, here in the USA... there are alot of catholics and they definitely cut dicks.

AC, if you had a starting size of 8", I doubt if you were tightly circumcised. Not everyone is so lucky, either to be blessed genetically with a huge schlong or to have escaped some of the worst damage that circumcision can do. Everyone is different. It makes me sad that you would just nonchalantly offer your kids up to the knife at birth. I hope that your sons are as lucky as you. They might not be, and may even hate you for not letting them have the choice themselves later. Really, who's dick is it? Yours or theirs?

When I say two inches, I am not talking about you guys that have loose circed big cocks. I am talking about us guys that start out with 5 inchers that are curved and have pulled up scrotums and hair halfway up the shafts.

Not butchering? You should find a video on the web of a circumcision being done to a baby. I've seen it. It made me sick and it made my wife cry.

Don't take my word for it. Don't take their word for it. Educate yourself.

Think uncut cocks stink? When was the last time you sat next to someone in a car or a restaraunt or a bus and smelled some "nasty uncut guy's" dick? Please...! Unless you go around holding penises under your nose sniffing them, I think it's kind of a non-issue. I think the smell range on a dick is about three inches! :D

Bro, here in the USA... there are alot of catholics and they definitely cut dicks.

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Well that has nothing to do with the cathlic religion! In my land about 95% of the citizens are Christian and about 70% of them are Roman Cathlik (if not even more)! Over here Christian Religion is a school subject from the 1st until the 10th class (sick isn't it). Nearly hole Europ is Christian! I don't know why you're cut as a Roman cathlik but i can tell you that it has 100% nothing to do with you're religion! And if ya don't belive me go to you're next church and ask. They will tell you.

If you say that over in the US cathliks have cut dicks then they have it because it gets done in hospital because the doctors say that all kids have it or who knows why. But the Christian religion does absolutly not do that! Only jews and a few moslemic religions do that.

Over here in the US, hopful, it's hard to even get people to listen to you about it without getting them upset. That's how entrenched the custom here is. Its like brainwashing. Just be glad your medical system isn't like ours! They do unnecessary stuff here all the time for $$$!

Comeing to think of it i wasn't realy backing up kongs theory of "doctors cuting to make big provit" but now if you're telling me even cathlics get cut in the US... That realy puts kongs theory into a different light. I can cinda understand that people get cut for religious reasons, but cutting people now a day's with the reason for penile health thats absolutly insane. Like kong said only 15% or even less of the worldpopulation is cut! I can asure you that the 85% of the rest of the world Don't have their penis drop of because of desises. If that realy happens in the US then it realy is only done for profit reasons in my oppinion. There is absolutly no reason for cutting penises now a days ecept for real bad medical isues. And if someone want's a cut penis because he thinks it's better then he can still do it when he's old enough to be sure he wants it. Hmmm.... i always thought that only the jews were cut in the US.... Now that realy makes ya think.

If it's just plain normal in the US to be cut, doesn't matter what you're religion is, then i gotta back you up kong! That realy isn't right.

Honestly, this business about some kind of massive medical conspiracy about making huge industry profits from foreskins . . . it's ridiculous. Speaking as somebody with three doctors in my immediate family who aren't the type to BS about the realities of the profession, this is just sili. You really think the average ob/gyn is just raking in profits off of some hushed up circumcision scam? This is internet propgandizing and conspiarcy theorizing at its silliest.

Ditto for the 'taking off 2 inches' argument. I've called BS on this before as well. Look I'm not coming after anybody here, but think about the actual physiology of this claim. Then read up a bit about the actual procedure. Having a fold of skin that covers the head of the business removed does not shrink an average penis by a 1/3 of its true potential. I would say ask any urologist or doctor about it, but if you honestly believe that the entire American medical community are members of some dark cult bent on crippling the sexual potential of all American men for a few extra dollars a year, you likely won't have much faith in what they tell you.

So far as women going crazier for the uncircumcised penis, this is purely opinion. There are writings, some of them well known texts and readily available, from the classical period on up when, a circumcised penis was a rare thing in the world, descibing it as a coveted prize amongst women for the pleasurable sensations it provides. The argument of a foreskin feeling better because of 'gliding' or something is not only subjective to the individual, but goes against the conventional wisdom that friction and nerve stimulation are the basis of sexual pleasure for both parties.

The stuff about Judiasm, I'm not too sure of either. I'm no theologin but a few out of context quotes on the internet can be made to sound like they support any number of odd theories. It sounds more reasonable to me that circumcision, like kosher practices and many other ritualized parts of the religion, came about as hygenic and health measures that were linked to god and faith in order to get people on the wagon. Anthropologists have shown that Jews were far from the first culture or religion to perform the procedure anways.

I just think it's goofy to bluntly suggest that all circumcision screws you up sexually, because that just isn't the case, and there are many many fully developed and fully pleased cut men around to attest to this. Frankly most of the people I hear talking about how evil it is tend to be circumcised guys who are generally unhappy with their penis to a degree and blame their natural size at least in part on the procedure.

Now Kong, clearly I'm mostly disagreeing with you here, and I've seen you get a little testy in other threads when this happens, so please don't take it personally. It's my two cents (actually more like twenty-five by the size of the post) and I just have to chip it in. Obviously you're a huge advocate of FR and have some strong feelings on the subject, even running your own forum about it. I just felt a discenting opinion ought to be up, as there are two sides to every story and I think some of what you claim as absolute truth might be a little frightening or upsetting to perhaps a young person or any cut guy really.

And P.S. - In America I've had a hell of a lot more women tell me they prefer a cut penis and don't like them otherwise, a small few tell me they don't mind uncut, and none I have known say they prefer it. Now, this may be American bias because it's the culture over here, but it's also something to think about for any Americans who are all of a sudden feeling sick to their stomachs over having been circumcised as a baby.

Culture is culture and i got no problem with cut dicks. It only makes me think if guyes tell me that they are cut because they are Roman Cathlic and that is my culture and i know that isn't true! And if you hear things like that it realy does make you think that some people get disinformated about their cut dick. I mean in my opinion it isn't right telling people their dick had to be cut because it's their religion even if it has absolutly nothing to do with it. And i just mean i understand kong in his point if he says that people should have the right to deside for them self.

Well, this is put together by one of those evil scheming doctors that wants to profit from your child's suffering, but if you have an open mind take a look, they more or less cover all topics including the origins and backbone of the anti-circumcision movement. All facts and figures are cited from reviewed medical journals, but if you think the doctors are in on a national conspiracy then that won't mean much . . .

http://www.medicirc.org/

"Emm The Chrsitian church especialy the cathliks don't cut dick's! I mean nearly complet southern europ is Cathlik and belive me They don't cut dicks! Never have.
"Roman Cathlik isn't around anymore? that is absolutly not true. The Roman Cathlik (christian) Church is one of the biggest religions in the world"

Hey sorry bro i wasn't too clear on this. Im catholic but i don't have a cut dick becuiase im catholic its just because i live in the US and thats pretty much the custom. With the romans i meant the roman empire. They were the strongest nation of the times back in the day and persecuted the jews. The roman empire eventually changed its religious views but still crumbled, Rome itself is still there. Sorry was just usung it as an example jsut like the byzintene (spelled wrong) and greek nations... they were strong at times but no longer.

Basically as kong said, circumcisions are given to almost all jews, some muslims, and a huge portion of the US which in the world is a minority. I know the jews do it for religious reasons and i assume the muslims do also. In the US its pretty much just custom. I mean kong could be totally right saying it started with doctors trying to make a little extra cash. However, it caught on very well cause jsut about everyone i know is cut

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Over here Christian Religion is a school subject from the 1st until the 10th class (sick isn't it).

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I'm quite surprised to learn that.

Can't remember saying that swank. thats kongs apinion. I said that For me it just kinda sounds like there is some truth in it that nearly all new born kids in the US get cut with no real reason and that again does make me think that money is a reason why it is done. If all doctors would do it for free or for a small amount of money that would be something different.

Micksnatch don't take it personaly we were just discussing and it just sounded like that ;P

Yeah penguinsfan In Germany you can choose from 3 kind of religius classes
1. Roman Cathlic (christian)
2. Evangelium (chrisian)
3. Nutral ( all other religions)
You have these classes until the 10th grade ( or maybe even longer). It's totaly stupid it's a total wast of time and you can't fail in the religion class anyway. Oh and you can of course choose in witch one of them you wan't to go.