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Cockrings: unexpected benefits revisited. Looking back on a year.


Hey fellow MOS brothers.

Figi here. I penned a thread about a year ago, found here: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...-benefits.html?highlight=cockrings+unexpected , that had to do with my experience and thoughts about using cockrings, specifically the Tantus silicone cockrings. I used these pretty much daily for various kinds of PE and PE related healing in accordance with the spirit of the SRT method of healing in an expanded state. And having had to reorder a ring because it broke and getting another in the line of rings I thought I would revisit this idea with my thoughts and perhaps put this together a bit better than the last time.
First, Let me introduce you to the primary c-ring in my arsenal. Super soft c-ring by Tantus - Buy a cock ring at EdenFantasys
This is a super stretchy c-ring made of silicone. It is flat and wide unlike most typical rings. It is relatively easy to get on and off. This has many uses. The primary use I have found is to use it in any type of post girth workout i.e. pumping, clamping ballooning etc. The stretch nature of this ring allows the user to either wear it on the penis by itself, or around the testicles for an even tighter level of constriction. The method I chose to do is to stretch the ring around the whole package for the first hour or two for maximum retention of expansion and then move it to just the penis for the rest of the time I wear it. This allows me to remain in a pretty expanded state post girth workout. You can chose to sleep with this on like I do, as it is compliant enough for on to get normal nighttime erections without a horrible accident. (disclaimer, as with all PE, if your dick falls off cuz you do this, it’s not my fault.)
The other thing I stumbled upon was to use the cockring while pumping, specifically in the BM. Here is the unexpected part. I could not get the BM to attach the way one would normally wear the ring at the base, so I moved it up 0.5-1.5 inches (12- 38mm). This placement actually coincided with the place that the BM bit down on my cock the most. And due to the flat and wide nature of the ring, it minimized the amount of discomfort on this particular spot allowing me to pump longer and harder than before.
I should say that I apologize that I may have over sold the cockring’s ability to mitigate the amount of bite from the gator in my previous post. I did mention its not 100% effective, but some men saw this as the end all be all and then were let down when it didn’t work for them… There is a level of bite still rendered by the user and this will depend on the user and their girth as well. However, users of the bathmate in the 5-6 in of girth (127-152mm) range, I feel could benefit from this particular method to minimize the bite. It, for me, makes the BM experience so much better that I do not pump without one. Some have tried to do this with the sleeve, but I have not been able to get the same level of pressure and it still hurts my base. For me the sleeve is inferior to this method.
The other anecdote I would add, since some other brothers seem to reap the same benefit is going in 100%. When using a cockring I am always at 100% EQ. This allows me to get into the BM pump at the greatest erection level possible, which in turn gets me to the greatest pressure in the pump faster. With the ring I can usually pump 5-10mm further than without for two reasons. One, as aforementioned I am at full erection and two, the ring deflects some of the pain that would deter me from going for broke in the tube.
Previously, I used the ring to pad my penis while clamping, but this proved to be too much of a PITA, so I decided to drop this from my repertoire. Currently, I do use a cockring around the whole package during clamping sessions to achieve and maintain quality erections for clamping and edging purposes. This technique is quite easy as you simply attach the clamp as far back on the penis as possible like normal. You just have an extra few less mms of surface area to work with because of the ring. As an aside, I do not pad my penis any longer. I feel that it is too cumbersome and too time consuming to do. Your mileage may very vary, but I can still do a pretty good job without it.
Sadly, about a week ago my trust cockring broke, which prompted me buy three more of the same super soft c-rings and probably revisit this idea in general. What I did not know was that over time mine had become somewhat stretched out from being wrapped around the whole package, worn day in and day out and pumped in a bath mate. My suggestion if your funds could allow, is to buy 2-3 of them and designate them for intended purposes if you should feel the need to use them in such a way. Right now one is for SRT expanded healing as to not stretch it out so much, one is for pumping to take the brunt of the loads from the gaitor and one is for clamping/edging as to stretch it over the whole kit and caboodle and not get the others as stretched out.

The next ring I uses is also from Tantus, and it is the intermediate Cockring in 1 and 7/8” diameter. It can be seen here: Tantus 1 7/8" Silicone Intermediate Cock Ring - Black - Penis Enhancers - Toys It is similar to the super soft one in construction, however it is much… MUCH less stretchy and is quite a bit thicker. I use this one primarily as an all day ring to wear around the whole package. As previously stated in my other thread, it has mild ADS properties… Some have contested that it has very little ADS qualifications, yet in my experience it is better than nothing. I hate my extender and uncle jims is such a pain in the ass for a myriad of resons, the main one being I can’t take a piss easily. Due to the large width and ringing both the penis and testicles together, the penis has no opportunity to completely turtle. The penis is pretty much only able to go back to a “normal” state as far as length goes. True, it is not as long as an extender or a UJW. Yet, it is also much easier to use out in the field if you will. With everything there is a trade off. Of course this method isn’t going to get you extended to the greatest degree; nevertheless, it will prevent turtling to a degree, especially during those dreadful winter months. I will take a normal hang vs. a cute button nose any damn day.
As an aside, I tried to order the advanced ring in 1 and ¾ inches, but the disgruntled sex shop packers sent me the 2” beginner one instead. My plan now is to wear both in tandem to mimic the neck ring phenomenon found here: Padaung Ring Neck Stretchers . Eventually, I hope to get all three, the third being the 1 and ¾, to use as an all day inner penis development system. I can’t say for sure yet if my all day usage has contributed to my base being exposed more, but it is promising in PE theory. Perhaps in another year we can revisit cockrings: unexpected benefits, revisited for some insight to this novel idea. If I can get all three on I estimate the distance the rings would pull would be about 2 inches or so. Plus, you look like you have an armadillo in your trousers, and really that’s the whole fucking point of PE in the first places.

I hope this thread is well received, since I did make much more of an effort to include links to the rings in question and beta test this stuff for a year. Please see the other thread for anything not explained in this one. On the other hand, as my signature suggests, DM me with any additional questions about this matter or let’s just start a dialogue here. I am more than happy to try and assist my brothers in their journey as I expect them to do the same for anyone else.

Thanks,

Fige
 
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Thank you for all the info!
Most of it I would want to try it (or have tried it already). The rings look very good, too. So I'm gonna order super soft one, or 2 or 3 of them. :)
I definitely agree, that you get a nice unturtled hang with an all day ring.

But I'm not completely sure, how exactly you gonna use the three cock rings to mimic the neck rings. Maybe I'm too stupid. :(
 
pdevil;618186 said:
Thank you for all the info!
Most of it I would want to try it (or have tried it already). The rings look very good, too. So I'm gonna order super soft one, or 2 or 3 of them. :)
I definitely agree, that you get a nice unturtled hang with an all day ring.

But I'm not completely sure, how exactly you gonna use the three cock rings to mimic the neck rings. Maybe I'm too stupid. :(

I intend to use them to get the penis far away from the body. Think of the balls and penis as the head in the neck ring. If one does PE and stresses the inner penis, then perhaps the use of these cockrings can be like the neck rings and hold it away from the body for healing. To be honest, this is all bro science and theory, but I hope after another year to have more of an idea if this works. Even if a brother could get 1/8 of an inch, I think it's a worthwhile endeavor.
 
Is there a big difference with a cockring vs a hair tie or an o ring
 
pdevil;618186 said:
Thank you for all the info!
Most of it I would want to try it (or have tried it already). The rings look very good, too. So I'm gonna order super soft one, or 2 or 3 of them. :)
I definitely agree, that you get a nice unturtled hang with an all day ring.

But I'm not completely sure, how exactly you gonna use the three cock rings to mimic the neck rings. Maybe I'm too stupid. :(

And my pleasure. Glad to hear!
 
mza;618244 said:
Is there a big difference with a cockring vs a hair tie or an o ring

I think so. A piece of equipment designed for intent will serve a purpose much better than an improvised item. Especially in ease of use.
 
Nepali never thought about using a cock ring as an all day healing tool. I can understand its benefit when focusing on girth. Thanks for the post. Has me thinking
 
Barnstool123;618361 said:
Nepali never thought about using a cock ring as an all day healing tool. I can understand its benefit when focusing on girth. Thanks for the post. Has me thinking

Oh yeah bro. Not a prob. It's great to get a pump early on in the day and hold it throught the afternoon. Or you can pump before bed and wake up plumped and good to go.
 
BornInFigi;631149 said:
Seen a lot of traffic about cock rings, so i thought id bump this.

Thanks for the bump, I will be doing some exercise testing in the next week using cock rings. I hope to contribute some good advice on this topic.
 
I'm pretty sure it's because of the original thread I started messing with rings. Before then it had never occurred to me to try them for anything but turkey neck training. Now they're central to everything girth and even get used for warming down from length.

Great ideas sir
 
Longth;631317 said:
I'm pretty sure it's because of the original thread I started messing with rings. Before then it had never occurred to me to try them for anything but turkey neck training. Now they're central to everything girth and even get used for warming down from length.

Great ideas sir

Thx buddy.
 
From my experience, edging, squeezing the base, wearing a metallic cockring and some slow squash jelqs..and playing with my cock...30 minutes a day watching ����..going close to orgasm
but without orgasming...gave me steady girth gains over the years. about 0.25" per year or so. However, i do believe that cockrings and edging etc is the best way to cement girth gains..
as a big part of my length gains vanished after i quit the stretching for almost two years. I have never tried all day cockring though. I usually wear it about 5-6 hours a day on average and of course every time i get an erection.
 
confusedman;633993 said:
From my experience, edging, squeezing the base, wearing a metallic cockring and some slow squash jelqs..and playing with my cock...30 minutes a day watching ����..going close to orgasm
but without orgasming...gave me steady girth gains over the years. about 0.25" per year or so. However, i do believe that cockrings and edging etc is the best way to cement girth gains..
as a big part of my length gains vanished after i quit the stretching for almost two years. I have never tried all day cockring though. I usually wear it about 5-6 hours a day on average and of course every time i get an erection.

I like the idea of cockring use for cementing the girth gains. One could probably impose a very low intensity routine or use them in their masturbation and keep very good expansion. Can you provide any insight to your length routine, gains and subsequent loss of gains? I am on a length path and could use some ideas on how to keep my gains once I get to where I want to be.
 
BornInFigi;634252 said:
I like the idea of cockring use for cementing the girth gains. One could probably impose a very low intensity routine or use them in their masturbation and keep very good expansion. Can you provide any insight to your length routine, gains and subsequent loss of gains? I am on a length path and could use some ideas on how to keep my gains once I get to where I want to be.

Dear fellow PEer,

If you check my thread which i started recently with picture proofs with girth measurements etc i have shared my personal story of my routines throughout the years.
I am an extremely hard gainers in both dimensions. Especially in the length part as it seems. I was wearing the static stretcher (now it is out of market), the Andropenis(which is similar or at least it was similar with the Jes extender back in 2005 if i remember properly) for 10-12 hours a day and the heavy duty stretcher for 2 hours a day and then heal inside the static stretcher for 6 hours...then another set for one hour then 6 hours stretched...Back i was not gaining fast. Probably 0.25"-0.3" per year.
I just stopped everything and i lost 50% of the length gains i made in the past 7 years (about 1.6") so i ended up with 0.8" gain. Good news is that i never lost any of the rest 50% of the gains
i made (0.7") the other 1 year and a couple of months..which i think it is permanent and it was cemented..My idea is that in the worst case scenario if you stop everything you could potentiallt loose 50% of the gains you have made. However, everyone is different..i was just not so lucky given the effort i have put in PE.
But i restarted again the same length routine to gain it back and maybe some more...we will se...
 
Is there a big difference with a cockring vs a hair tie or an o ring

Yes .. and it can be a useful difference for each..

I consider cock rings (as a functional description) to be something which doesn't quite fit yet when you're flaccid, and something which generally precludes becoming flaccid again once you're erect.

Of course someone could get a cockring that's either way too small or way too big and fall outside of those effects .. but generally the above is what should be expected.

I find it less than optimal for A.D.S. usage .. and what's actually superior is a two inch (or so) length of silicone sleeve* around the base of the penis, softly constricted by one or two 'hair ties' (the stretchy kind).

By experimenting with tying a knot in the excess size of a hair tie, one can customize a constrictor size that is both 'firm' but also flimsy, allowing it to:

-keep an expanded (almost 'clamped') state of tumescence, even when you would otherwise be flaccid, ..

-stretch enough to not become overly tight during an actual erection, so that the erection can pass..

-and allow for an ongoing circulation of bloodflow (in either a hard or soft penis state) so there's no adverse occlusion or necrosis.

(*) The form factor for the silicone sleeve, as I do it, is to cut one slice vertically in the length of sleeve (this makes it a roll instead of a tube) and then it can be stretched around the base of the penis until it overlaps itself, .. and the hair-tie holds it together. This lets you make the cushioning sleeve a customized size as well, and since the sleeve itself is also stretchy it's probably contributing to the quality of the constriction instead of just being a passive cushion.

Done right, this is an extremely useful method for staying in an anti-turtle state. -- For me it causes (approximately) a 110% expansion of girth, a 95% expansion of length, at about a 70% state of 'erection'. Those figures are far beyond any anti-turtle sleeve or a wrap. And it can do this for hours until it becomes an uncomfortable rubbing against the base. Then just remove, massage, and if desired re-apply.

Additional comment: this is like the fifth time I've posted this methodology to various threads. It seems like the concept of being able to anti-turtle in an actively expanded (practically 'clamped') state, .. as a boost to SRT .. re -active healing .. would catch on. (?) Or at least get a "Hmmm.."

Watch your color and how it feels. If the color looks wrong, or the feeling feels wrong .. it is. Stop immediately and make your next hair ties larger until you get the right mix. :)

Alt tip - some types of hair ties would rather die fighting than be stretched around and tied into a custom knotted form. If you end up with those, you don't have to fight with them or go buy a different kind .. just get a needle and thread and put a few stitches in the hair tie where you would have otherwise knotted it.
 
confusedman;634357 said:
Dear fellow PEer,

If you check my thread which i started recently with picture proofs with girth measurements etc i have shared my personal story of my routines throughout the years.
I am an extremely hard gainers in both dimensions. Especially in the length part as it seems. I was wearing the static stretcher (now it is out of market), the Andropenis(which is similar or at least it was similar with the Jes extender back in 2005 if i remember properly) for 10-12 hours a day and the heavy duty stretcher for 2 hours a day and then heal inside the static stretcher for 6 hours...then another set for one hour then 6 hours stretched...Back i was not gaining fast. Probably 0.25"-0.3" per year.
I just stopped everything and i lost 50% of the length gains i made in the past 7 years (about 1.6") so i ended up with 0.8" gain. Good news is that i never lost any of the rest 50% of the gains
i made (0.7") the other 1 year and a couple of months..which i think it is permanent and it was cemented..My idea is that in the worst case scenario if you stop everything you could potentiallt loose 50% of the gains you have made. However, everyone is different..i was just not so lucky given the effort i have put in PE.
But i restarted again the same length routine to gain it back and maybe some more...we will se...

I'll see if I can find your thread. Lots of stuff in this post. I'll see if I can digest it all and rep back with something after I try to interpret it more.
 
Asanon;634422 said:
Yes .. and it can be a useful difference for each..

I consider cock rings (as a functional description) to be something which doesn't quite fit yet when you're flaccid, and something which generally precludes becoming flaccid again once you're erect.

Of course someone could get a cockring that's either way too small or way too big and fall outside of those effects .. but generally the above is what should be expected.

I find it less than optimal for A.D.S. usage .. and what's actually superior is a two inch (or so) length of silicone sleeve* around the base of the penis, softly constricted by one or two 'hair ties' (the stretchy kind).

By experimenting with tying a knot in the excess size of a hair tie, one can customize a constrictor size that is both 'firm' but also flimsy, allowing it to:

-keep an expanded (almost 'clamped') state of tumescence, even when you would otherwise be flaccid, ..

-stretch enough to not become overly tight during an actual erection, so that the erection can pass..

-and allow for an ongoing circulation of bloodflow (in either a hard or soft penis state) so there's no adverse occlusion or necrosis.

(*) The form factor for the silicone sleeve, as I do it, is to cut one slice vertically in the length of sleeve (this makes it a roll instead of a tube) and then it can be stretched around the base of the penis until it overlaps itself, .. and the hair-tie holds it together. This lets you make the cushioning sleeve a customized size as well, and since the sleeve itself is also stretchy it's probably contributing to the quality of the constriction instead of just being a passive cushion.

Done right, this is an extremely useful method for staying in an anti-turtle state. -- For me it causes (approximately) a 110% expansion of girth, a 95% expansion of length, at about a 70% state of 'erection'. Those figures are far beyond any anti-turtle sleeve or a wrap. And it can do this for hours until it becomes an uncomfortable rubbing against the base. Then just remove, massage, and if desired re-apply.

Additional comment: this is like the fifth time I've posted this methodology to various threads. It seems like the concept of being able to anti-turtle in an actively expanded (practically 'clamped') state, .. as a boost to SRT .. re -active healing .. would catch on. (?) Or at least get a "Hmmm.."

Watch your color and how it feels. If the color looks wrong, or the feeling feels wrong .. it is. Stop immediately and make your next hair ties larger until you get the right mix. :)

Alt tip - some types of hair ties would rather die fighting than be stretched around and tied into a custom knotted form. If you end up with those, you don't have to fight with them or go buy a different kind .. just get a needle and thread and put a few stitches in the hair tie where you would have otherwise knotted it.

Hmmmmmm.


😉


This mini sleeve concept is pretty cool. Do you have any pictures? I really like the idea. Did you start your own thread on it? I feel like you may feel passionately about this and what better way than to get this idea as ubiquitous as anything On this forum?

And you're right. A cockring on it's own is not an optimal way of anti turtling. I think your idea is very worthwhile. I've felt like there was a gap missing between ads/atd and kinda what your method embodies.
 
doublelongdaddy;631308 said:
Thanks for the bump, I will be doing some exercise testing in the next week using cock rings. I hope to contribute some good advice on this topic.

I have not forgotten my promise, my stay away from home is lasting longer than I have anticipated. Maybe I will be home by next week.
 
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