Munto's PE Journey:)

Thursday 25.12
2x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.1kg 1.3kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
UJW overnight

So far I noticed my flaccid penis looking thicker/girthier and sometimes longer and I can stretch further with the extender.
 
Munto said:
Thursday 25.12
2x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.1kg 1.3kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
UJW overnight

So far I noticed my flaccid penis looking thicker/girthier and sometimes longer and I can stretch further with the extender.
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When do you think you're going to measure?
 
Btw, the sleeve I use for anti-turtling after extending/hanging is already torn on one side, creating a noticeable opening, making it unusable. Happening a lot quicker than I thought.
 
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Munto said:
Btw, the sleeve I use for anti-turtling after extending/hanging is already torn on one side, creating a noticeable opening, making it unusable. Happening a lot quicker than I thought.
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I would just pick up a new one. And tears usually come from having too long or jaggedy fingernails.
 
DLD said:
I would just pick up a new one. And tears usually come from having too long or jaggedy fingernails.
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I think I still got one that fits and I can use for now. And customs is a pain where I live

Saturday 27.12
3x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.1kg 1.2kg)
2x60min Extender (low tension)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
UJW/SiliSleeve
 
At this point, any irritation for long period of elongation or are you good throughout the day and night?
 
Munto said:
I think I still got one that fits and I can use for now. And customs is a pain where I live

Saturday 27.12
3x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.1kg 1.2kg)
2x60min Extender (low tension)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
UJW/SiliSleeve
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Good, i'm glad you have one left but if you have an issue with that I can take care of that for you
 
Sunday 28.12
3x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.6kg)
2x60min Extender (low tension)
20min Basic Stretching
5min Testicle Health Massage
UJW/ADS

Now with one sleeve gone, I tried the ADS of the Stealth Stretcher again. This time with the teraband wrapping. And while it still takes some time to get used to, and a couple of tries every time. It's finally working.

oldandlively said:
At this point, any irritation for long period of elongation or are you good throughout the day and night?
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I do notice some soreness sometimes right after hanging or longer sessions of ADS/Sleeve/Extending. I stopped wearing the UJW while sleeeping, since I would wake up in pain frequently after a couple of hours having to take it off
 
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Munto said:
Sunday 28.12
3x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.6kg)
2x60min Extender (low tension)
20min Basic Stretching
5min Testicle Health Massage
UJW/ADS

Now with one sleeve gone, I tried the ADS of the Stealth Stretcher again. This time with the teraband wrapping. And while it still takes some time to get used to, and a couple of tries every time. It's finally working.



I do notice some soreness sometimes right after hanging or longer sessions of ADS/Sleeve/Extending. I stopped wearing the UJW while sleeeping, since I would wake up in pain frequently after a couple of hours having to take it off
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That's okay.There's plenty of time during the day where you can keep yourself strapped. I never wore ace just sleep, but I used it every hour.I was awake and not training
 
DLD said:
That's okay.There's plenty of time during the day where you can keep yourself strapped. I never wore ace just sleep, but I used it every hour.I was awake and not training
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Great good to know. I got the extender, sleeve and ADS (vacuum) as well.


Monday 29.12
3x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.4kg 1.6kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
UJW/ADS
 
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Tuesday 30.12
3x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.4kg 1.6kg)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
UJW/ADS
5min Warm-up
5min Bundled Stretches
20min Basic Stretching
5min Testicle Health Massage
 
Hi brother. Mind providing the estimated "low tension" you use? Just the closest estimate value you believe you're using. Most brothers may be asking, "What are low, medium, and high tensions are they talking about?" when they read our journals. Let's give them something to chew on.
 
oldandlively said:
Hi brother. Mind providing the estimated "low tension" you use?
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I haven't really touched the hand screws yet. And as far as I understand it that's what is adding the tension. Also, it still is a bit of a mystery to me still, because 1) I always forget what direction I have to turn them and 2) the amount of tension I'm using. I think the StealthExtender has about 7-8kg of tension it can generate, but so far I haven't found a way to measure that.

Wednesday 31.12
1x20min Pyramid Hanging (1.6kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
UJW/ADS

Thursday 1.1
OFF-day

And since I read about it online, I wanted to ask if glans size increase is a really a thing? Besides temp gains, if so, I might give this a shot. I already tried adding a cock ring below my glans after using the vac cup ADS
 
Sunday 04.01
3x20min Hanging (1.6kg 1.4kg 1.2kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve
5x5x2 Clamping, Bathmate Stretches
5min Warm-up
5min Bundled Stretches
20min Basic Stretching
5min Testicle Health Massage

I'm currently adding some water-based lube to ym glans before when using the vacuum bell for the ADS. Now I'm wondering if a regular oil based one or silicon would be better. Does it even matter? Or could an oil based damage the parts in some way?
 
If you are using silicone sleeves, food grade silicone is better. If you don't care since the sleeves you are using may be cheap to purchase, any skin safe oil is fine. A little goes a long way, so don't over apply.
 
In a Bathmate, different options are used, but make sure to clean up the residue after each use very well, or risk component failures.

Bathmate/silicone sleeve:
Vaseline
Food grade silicone gel/oil
Food grade mineral oil
Standard oil (cooking/jojoba/argon/etc). Not recommended, but usable.
Lotions: nope.

A warning though, using Vaseline and mineral oil on the sleeve will break down the silicone component very fast. However, silicone sleeves can be purchased in large quantity for cheap. Can't say the same for the SiliSleevs as the sleeves are formulated differently than the common ones from China. I have both. The ones from China tends to have more flexibility, but breaks down much faster than the SiliSleevs. You just have to track the good ones down that don't break apart using lubes.
 
Got it.
But why is a silicone one preferred? What would be bad about a water based lube?


oldandlively said:
A warning though, using Vaseline and mineral oil on the sleeve will break down the silicone component very fast. However, silicone sleeves can be purchased in large quantity for cheap. Can't say the same for the SiliSleevs as the sleeves are formulated differently than the common ones from China. I have both. The ones from China tends to have more flexibility, but breaks down much faster than the SiliSleevs. You just have to track the good ones down that don't break apart using lubes.
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Yeah i noticed that. The lifetime of at least one MOS Sleeve was about 1 month. While a cheap/cheaper one broke after a week. But the cost is adding up, either way.

And while I'm at it: I noticed when I use a smaller sleeve (18-20mm wide) I get a good vacuum with the cup, or at least a better one, still wouldn't hang with that, and I have to repump after 10-30minutes. I tried warpping with the theraband before which does work sometimes, but is rather tricky, since when it is moves it can create more issues than it solves. I saw some silicon rings made for just below the head/foreskin to move it back. Maybe those could help, will give it a try- Although I'm a bit worried about its behavior inside the vacuum. Now, like I already mentioned I got circumcised but there is still some skin when flaccid covering the glans

Wednesday 07.01
3x20min Hanging (1.8kg 1.6kg 1.4kg)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve

5min Warm-up
5min Bundled Stretches
20min Basic Stretching
5min Testicle Health Massage
 
Munto said:
Got it.
But why is a silicone one preferred? What would be bad about a water based lube?
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Water based lube uses acid-based adjuster for preservation. That acid concentration, although it's only around 5.8 to 6.2, eats away thin plastics very fast. This is why MoS product increase the thickness formulation on the sleeves, but the downside side that the creasing and folding can cause the plastic break easily. Fingernails and sharp edges can also cut into the materials very quickly as well.

Munto said:
Yeah i noticed that. The lifetime of at least one MOS Sleeve was about 1 month. While a cheap/cheaper one broke after a week. But the cost is adding up, either way.
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For me, I use the SiliSleev outside when the body of the sleeve is always straight. I use the cheaper ones inside since I can fold and roll without the worry of the sleeve's body thickness causing minor cracks.

Munto said:
And while I'm at it: I noticed when I use a smaller sleeve (18-20mm wide) I get a good vacuum with the cup, or at least a better one, still wouldn't hang with that, and I have to repump after 10-30minutes. I tried warpping with the theraband before which does work sometimes, but is rather tricky, since when it is moves it can create more issues than it solves. I saw some silicon rings made for just below the head/foreskin to move it back. Maybe those could help, will give it a try- Although I'm a bit worried about its behavior inside the vacuum. Now, like I already mentioned I got circumcised but there is still some skin when flaccid covering the glans
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Try the combination of Theraband inside bulk wrap and a small light wrap below the bulk outside to keep a pressure seal all the time. Something like a quick band-aid wrap. Try it at home first before trying it on-the-go.

As for the silicone rings below the base, only try it at home while doing your chores to test out the efficacy of the approach. The pressure will remain the same, but the slippage of the ring can cause discomfort.
 
Then I'll go with a sillicon based one, thanks.

oldandlively said:
Try the combination of Theraband inside bulk wrap and a small light wrap below the bulk outside to keep a pressure seal all the time. Something like a quick band-aid wrap. Try it at home first before trying it on-the-go.
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Yeah I tried that, but the theraband keeps moving

Thursday 08.01
3x20min Hanging (2.0kg 1.8kg 1.6kg)
2x60min Extender (low tension)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve

5min Warm-up
10min DLD Blasters
5min Bundled Stretches
20min Basic Stretching
5min Head squeezes/kegels
 
Munto said:
Yeah I tried that, but the theraband keeps moving
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Worst case scenario, MoS shop does sell a traction powder that I formulated for a few brothers in the past with higher traction. I don't recommend using it long run, but in a short run, that sticky powder works wonder.

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I formulate my own since the 30:70 ratio is not sticky enough for me. Mine is 40:60 and 50:50. It can be quite sticky. Not good if it goes into under your skin from skin breakage.
 
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oldandlively said:
Worst case scenario, MoS shop does sell a traction powder that I formulated for a few brothers in the past with higher traction. I don't recommend using it long run, but in a short run, that sticky powder works wonder.

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I formulate my own since the 30:70 ratio is not sticky enough for me. Mine is 40:60 and 50:50. It can be quite sticky. Not good if it goes into under your skin from skin breakage.
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Not too many people order that. But I can say it's incredibly strong. As far as grip goes and it will last you a year at least.
 
oldandlively said:
MoS shop does sell a traction powder that I formulated for a few brothers in the past with higher traction. I don't recommend using it long run, but in a short run, that sticky powder works wonder.
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I got two of those, one I ordered and another came with the StealthExtender, so far haven't used it yet, since I'd do my stretches with the LM. Although I might could try it with DLD Blasters next time, since I use the PA with that.

Also, I looked at the video again you provided for the wrapping, and I think my theraband may be the issue. Yours looks like it was cut to size, while I simply use the one that came with the old LM


Friday 09.01
3x20min Hanging (2.0kg 1.8kg 1.6kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve
 
Sunday 11.01
5min BathMate

2x20min Hanging (2.35kg 2.15kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve

5x5x5x2 Clamping, Bathmate Stretches, Head Squeezes/Kegels

5min Warm-up
5min Bundled Stretches
20min Basic Stretching
5min Testicle Health Massage

I played around with the vacuum cups again yesterday. I tried two of the SizeDoctor Grey Sleeves + one and eeven two sleeves for a better vacuum, and the ACE Wrap as well, tape around where the cup and sleeve are to seal it. But no, I cannot get a good vacuum for the life of me.

I'll try cutting the theraband next, but at this point I'm pretty much out of options.
 
Monday 12.01
3x20min Hanging (2.35kg 2.15kg 2kg)
2x60min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve

5x5x5x2 Clamping, Bathmate Stretches, Head Squeezes/Kegels

5min Warm-up
5min Bundled Stretches
20min Basic Stretching
5min Warm-down


I tried a sleeve before putting the SizeDoctor sleeves on and one over it. Still nothing. I have to keep the pump on the bell/cup , otherwise I loose the vacuum, even with the wrap around. I cut one therband in smaller sizes, and will give this another try.
 
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I'm suspecting either a seal gap in the plastic housing or the pump's connector.

Try to place the cup and seal against the inner thigh to cover the entire cup's opening. Pump and see if the pressure holds. Another trick is to submerge the vacuumed cup below water to see where the gap leak occurs.
 
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oldandlively said:
Try to place the cup and seal against the inner thigh to cover the entire cup's opening.
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It did work aftrer a couple of tries with the medium sized cup. The small one didn't have an issue.

Somehow I did get a pretty good seal yesterday two times.
And what I notices as well, even with wrapping I lose lots of vacuum as soon as I stop squeeze at the shafts base, holding the wrap tight.


Tuesday 13.01
3x20min Hanging (2.35kg 2.15kg 2kg)
3x60min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve
 
Munto said:
It did work aftrer a couple of tries with the medium sized cup. The small one didn't have an issue.

Somehow I did get a pretty good seal yesterday two times.
And what I notices as well, even with wrapping I lose lots of vacuum as soon as I stop squeeze at the shafts base, holding the wrap tight.
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It appears you may have looseness issue for the seal using medium size cup the moment you indicate you have to squeeze the base of the shaft. So, a method I used for SiliStretcher2 larger cups that's too loose for my current glans size. A few brothers did the same and have success.

Since you have a different seal system, open up the TheraBand to cover part of the glans and part of the corona ridge/rim. That's around 1in to 2in width. Wrap around the rim where part of the Theraband is covering over the glans side, while a part of that covers under the glans base. When I use the vacuum cup for the ADS, I have to create a bulk seal just to make sure my glans don't leak a seal. As you pointed out, when you squeeze the base of the shaft, blood is pushed into the glans, enlarging it, creating a tighter seal.

Once you have the first layer of TheraBand on, put on the seal for the vacuum cup, follows by the cup itself. Second trick is to either use a short and thin layer penis sleeve to push over part of the cup and below the Theraband layer by around 0.5in to 1in. This is to ensure a secondary total seal between the system. Add vacuum pressure to test. This method allows us to create a seal strong enough to have a 8lbs traction pull. Any more than this, high pressure will cause you to have blisters.
 
Thanks, I'll give this a try, and play around with others ways most likely on the weekend.

I was able to get a good vacuum with the following:
  1. Blue gans protection sleeve over the glans, folded at the bottom of the glans
  2. Sleeve over the shaft covering some of the blue sleeve
  3. SizeDoctor gray sleeve on the cup
  4. Another bigger sleeve cover the shaft (small fold)
  5. at the bottom) and gray sleeve
  6. Bandage around the shaft

Now I hope I find another way, because this has a lot of things that could need replacement rather quickly. The blue glans protection has already started tearing at the bottom after only a coouple of uses.



Wednesday 14.01
3x20min Hanging (2.5kg 2.25kg 2.15kg)
2x60min Extender (low tension)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve

5x5x5x2 Clamping, Bathmate Stretches, Head Squeezes/Kegels
1x20min Hanging (2.5kg)
 
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Your layering method cleared my suspicion that there's a gap between the cup and seal with your glans's surface. Keep us updated on your method because a few actually have had these issues in the near past, but they abandoned the hassle of trials and errors and just got new extenders.

Munto said:
Now I hope I find another way, because this has a lot of things that could need replacement rather quickly. The blue glans protection has already started tearing at the bottom after only a coouple of uses.
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If you're using the tougher blue ones, they'll crack and bleed easily during the rough folding and handling. I normally go to AliExpress and grab lighter versions. I want to support MoS Shop, but the lack of the more flexible versions got me searching for them.


These are the 6mm thickness, formulated with more flex than stiffness. Again, emphasizing on flexibility over stiffness like the SiliSleevs. They are perfect to go over the vacuum cups and the stiffer under layers, like a sleeve or wrap, using it as reinforcement. I managed to go as high as 40lbs using double-layering during test trials on aggressive remodeling hanging using SiliStretcher2.
 
oldandlively said:
If you're using the tougher blue ones, they'll crack and bleed easily during the rough folding and handling. I normally go to AliExpress and grab lighter versions. I want to support MoS Shop, but the lack of the more flexible versions got me searching for them.
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I did order a bunch on aliexpress a week or two ago. And I think there are a couple of blue ones among them.

oldandlively said:
Your layering method cleared my suspicion that there's a gap between the cup and seal with your glans's surface. Keep us updated on your method because a few actually have had these issues in the near past, but they abandoned the hassle of trials and errors and just got new extenders.
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Wouldn't it be easier/cheaper to get new cups? Since, as far as I understood it, you're saying they are somehow malfunctioning.

Thursday 15.01
4x20min Hanging (2.5kg 2.25kg 2kg 1.75kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
2x30min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve
 
Munto said:
Wouldn't it be easier/cheaper to get new cups? Since, as far as I understood it, you're saying they are somehow malfunctioning.
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Test first to see if there is or are malfunctions before spending the money on new ones. The thigh vacuum test we talked about early is one of the test methods.
 
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Friday 16.01
4x20min Hanging (2.5kg 2.25kg 2kg 1.75kg)
2x10min Vac-Hanging (1.75kg)
1x60min Extender (low tension)
3x30min Extender (low tension)
ADS/Sleeve

Tried hanging with the vac-cups just to see if it worked with my current setup, and so far it did. Just wondering is there any up or downside to it compared to "regular hanging" (compressor hanging?). Also what max limits do the cups from the
StealthStretcher have? I think the SiliStretcher2, if I got that name correct, is advertised to hang 7-8kg.

Big Schwanz Acht said:
Hey Munto, long/time-no/time :) I think we started around the same time, glad you're still at it!
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Hey, you are still around as well? Nice :)! I'm around again though, took a break for a couple of years.

oldandlively said:
Test first to see if there is or are malfunctions before spending the money on new ones. The thigh vacuum test we talked about early is one of the test methods.
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I tested it already with the following results: "It did work aftrer a couple of tries with the medium sized cup. The small one didn't have an issue."
 
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Munto said:
Tried hanging with the vac-cups just to see if it worked with my current setup, and so far it did. Just wondering is there any up or downside to it compared to "regular hanging" (compressor hanging?). Also what max limits do the cups from the
StealthStretcher have?
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Should be maxing out around 18kg. It's not about how much it can max out, but how much vacuum pressure the system can maintain.
 
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