Frenulum Tying!

pillesnoppen;707821 said:
my frenulum kind of "tied" itself.
during a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session it ripped a little.
a little looser it got :)
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Ow......... now I'm afraid to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] because I kinda felt hard stretching on my frenulum when i used it before
 
I also just tied my frenulum due to issues with retracting my foreskin when erect and exposing the glands. I've now run into a slight dilemma :s I'm terrible with knots so I decided to do a hang-man knot, which worked perfectly! But then it kept coming a little bit loose, so I tightened it and tied another basic knot. I then work up without feeling any discomfort, so I suspect that it hasn't been done tight enough. But now, I'm wanting to undo the knot, but all of my attempts thus far have been futile :')

I also left the strings long, so I'm going to keep trying later on tonight to undo it and re-tie it. But so far, anyone considering it should definitely give it a go. I'm a wuss, but I was able to push the needle through and it was actually pain-free. It did, however, make me feel a little shakey and weirded out when I saw a needle passing through a portion of my lil' fella.
 
Okay, so I'm back...

I've been unsuccessful thus far with untying the knot :s Note, there is no discomfort whatsoever and this is what it looks like:

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Sorry for the bad picture btw. If I had a third hand I'd be able to get a much clearer shot. Anyway, do you think that this is tight enough? And if not, how would you suggest removing the thread? hahah.
 
Guys I need advise .. But first let me say, I am very grateful for people like you guys who provide me with these type of knowledge that's going to impact my life significantly for the better. Thanks mates :)
But right now I need ur guys tips.
I tied my frenulumn 3days ago, to my surprise the thread is cutting through pretty fast. I made two knots, But the tie on thread is loose right now and for me to pull it out and try and tighten it over is VERY painful(I've tried it a few minutes ago).. And I also don't want to cut it out and try inserting another Thread because I fear I might not find the needle hole. Guys what do you think I should do? And is there a way in which I could numb the area(home remedy) for no pain so I could pull the second knot to tighten the tie?
 
Object;708068 said:
Guys I need advise .. But first let me say, I am very grateful for people like you guys who provide me with these type of knowledge that's going to impact my life significantly for the better. Thanks mates :)
But right now I need ur guys tips.
I tied my frenulumn 3days ago, to my surprise the thread is cutting through pretty fast. I made two knots, But the tie on thread is loose right now and for me to pull it out and try and tighten it over is VERY painful(I've tried it a few minutes ago).. And I also don't want to cut it out and try inserting another Thread because I fear I might not find the needle hole. Guys what do you think I should do? And is there a way in which I could numb the area(home remedy) for no pain so I could pull the second knot to tighten the tie?
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I would suggest you use lidocaine in spray, probably in burn pain relievers. You could also try to tumb it with ice.
 
Object;708068 said:
Guys I need advise .. But first let me say, I am very grateful for people like you guys who provide me with these type of knowledge that's going to impact my life significantly for the better. Thanks mates :)
But right now I need ur guys tips.
I tied my frenulumn 3days ago, to my surprise the thread is cutting through pretty fast. I made two knots, But the tie on thread is loose right now and for me to pull it out and try and tighten it over is VERY painful(I've tried it a few minutes ago).. And I also don't want to cut it out and try inserting another Thread because I fear I might not find the needle hole. Guys what do you think I should do? And is there a way in which I could numb the area(home remedy) for no pain so I could pull the second knot to tighten the tie?
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Put your ding dong in ice for 3-4 minutes.
 
hello i have a bit of a problem, when i retract my foreskin fully my glans tilts, this gives me invonlontary kegel = prem ejac.

I would really like to do frenulum tying and ive read the most pages in this thread. Im not 100% sure where to put the needle.

I have 2 questions.

1: I cant put the thread so i have a vein in the knot right?

2: what will happen to the skin that doesnt get done? will i have a skin fleak hanging down from my glans looking all weird? how can i remove it if so


thanks in advance
 
drjohn;708516 said:
hello i have a bit of a problem, when i retract my foreskin fully my glans tilts, this gives me invonlontary kegel = prem ejac.

I would really like to do frenulum tying and ive read the most pages in this thread. Im not 100% sure where to put the needle.

I have 2 questions.

1: I cant put the thread so i have a vein in the knot right?

2: what will happen to the skin that doesnt get done? will i have a skin fleak hanging down from my glans looking all weird? how can i remove it if so


thanks in advance
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Hey dude, done 3 ties now, each better than the last. Use a torch or phone light and put the needle through the bit of frenulum that has no veins flowing through it. This is he best way to locate some spots to push the needle through. Also for ur first tie, don't goo too deep incase u want to remove it later on. If only recommend 0.5-1 cm for ur first tie. Once the tie comes through, the skin will heal back into the shaft and won't be hanging off. Couldn't recommend tying more, it's really loosened me up. Goodluck
 
Surfguy101;708630 said:
Hey dude, done 3 ties now, each better than the last. Use a torch or phone light and put the needle through the bit of frenulum that has no veins flowing through it. This is he best way to locate some spots to push the needle through. Also for ur first tie, don't goo too deep incase u want to remove it later on. If only recommend 0.5-1 cm for ur first tie. Once the tie comes through, the skin will heal back into the shaft and won't be hanging off. Couldn't recommend tying more, it's really loosened me up. Goodluck
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Hey and thanks for answering.

So 0.5-1cm when the skin is stretched out?

And the skin "fleak" that gets left on the glans side Will heal and look good?
 
ok so did it, i hope this goes well since im not sure id like to do it again lol, it did not feel good.

Im not sure if i came too Close to the glans, i got abit red at the back of my glans im not sure...

will i die now lol
 
drjohn;708806 said:
I dont know if i tied it too loose :(

Is there any Concrete way of seeing that the knot is "too loose" to do its job?
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You can always upload a picture of what you have right now so others can determine.
 
kyomoto;708826 said:
You can always upload a picture of what you have right now so others can determine.
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Yes i will try to, i am abit red where the hole is, where the string goes through.

It has been almost 48 hours.

I had like no pain when i did it, after 8 hours i felt a veeery LITTLE bit of pain, now 48 hours after
i can feel pain if i touch the knot or pull it.

is this normal?
 
drjohn;708907 said:
Yes i will try to, i am abit red where the hole is, where the string goes through.

It has been almost 48 hours.

I had like no pain when i did it, after 8 hours i felt a veeery LITTLE bit of pain, now 48 hours after
i can feel pain if i touch the knot or pull it.

is this normal?
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I think it´s normal that it hurts if you touch it, not sure though..

Anyways, if you need to re-do it, just put your dick in ice cold water and then remove the tie and make a new one.. :D
 
Sorry for asking so many questions.

Its the 4th day and ive started getting little pain now and i saw it was a little bit of blod at the tie after i had a morningwood This morning.
 
drjohn;709219 said:
Sorry for asking so many questions.

Its the 4th day and ive started getting little pain now and i saw it was a little bit of blod at the tie after i had a morningwood This morning.
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If you can, wait 2-3 more days and then remove the tie in case it might be loose and make a new tighter one.

Does it hurt though only when you are touch it?


Im no expert though, so many someone else can help you.
 
drjohn;710013 said:
It seems after my second tie there will be 2 "skinpieces" hanging of the glans, what do i do with those :/?
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Not sure, but I dont think you need to tie them. I think someone else said earlier that they slowly retract or something..

You should post pictures of how it looks now, and if you had some before´s also..
 
ezio;710074 said:
Not sure, but I dont think you need to tie them. I think someone else said earlier that they slowly retract or something..

You should post pictures of how it looks now, and if you had some before´s also..
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This makes sense and if you do have 2 little strands just tie them up like you would a wart until it eventually falls off.
 
I've done some research.

The best solution for needle/thread seems to be a suture kit (something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgical_suture#/media/File:Atraumatisches_Nahtmaterial_17.JPG), using a 3/0 nylon fiber. It's not very cheap but it's easy to use and sterile.

I also tried to pierce my frenulum with a normal needle, but it's painful (i didn't use much pressure because it was only a test). If i use the "professional" needle included in the suture, it will be less painful? Or it's necessary an anesthetic in both cases? An ice cube will be ok? If I use lidocaine cream, what concentration is better? There are many creams, with concentration from 1% to 5%.

I also have some doubts about the knot, i googled "surgeon's knot" but it seems a little difficult, there will be problems if i use a normal node? I also have some doubts about how much force use to tighten the node.

Please respond if you have some ideas.
 
Hi guys!
Long time no see!
Since the break I discovered Aaron Electrocautery Pen by Bovie Medical to corrent frenulum imperfections. Which I tried already on my scars after tying my frenulum and worked very well under local anaesthetic. The photos are coming. As the device makes 1200 Celcium at the pint of connection with the tissue its quite risky to mess it up with shaky hands :)
 
It's an interesting idea Brahmanion, i'm curious to see pics.

Meantime i bought all the things: 3/0 monofilament nylon suture, lidocaine cream, antiseptic cream. I also learned how to do surgeon's knot.
I'll do the tie in the next days.
Do you have any last advice before I start?
 
Complete failure.
Lidocaine simply doesn't work, it's still painful.
Frenulum is strong as fuck, i didn't manage to pierce it.
 
max999;714076 said:
Complete failure.
Lidocaine simply doesn't work, it's still painful.
Frenulum is strong as fuck, i didn't manage to pierce it.
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For lidocaine cream you have to wait at least 1 hour with your foreskin completely closed. You have to by Xylocaine Spray 10mg and it works just fine but wait 30-40 min before to do something.

This is electrocautery pen: Single-Use Fine Tip Aaron Electrocautery Pen by Bovie Medical - Painful Pleasures Burns very weel and if someone want to to it himself on his own dick then sedative pills have to be taken otherwise shaking hands can make not correct movements and the healing scar will not be perfect.

I will prepare photos soon.
 
on painfulpleasures.com you can also order good percing needles:
STERILIZED CURVED PIERCING NEEDLES 18G-16-14G
Gauge 1.2mm ~ 16g
Sterilized Curved Piercing Needles 18g-16-14g PRICE PER 1 - Painful Pleasures

STERILIZED PIERCING PRECISION NEEDLE - SHARP PIERCING NEEDLE
Gauge 1.6mm ~ 14g
Length 48mm ~ 1-7/8"
Sterilized Piercing Precision Needle - Sharp Piercing Needle - Price Per 1 Needle - Painful Pleasures

I used this setup for double tie technique to create the hole and place 12G STAINLESS STEEL CAPTIVE BEAD RING
Diameter 13mm ~ 1/2"
Ball Size 5mm ~ 3/16"
12g CUSTOM Stainless Steel Captive Bead Ring 5/16" - 2-3/4" by Jeremy Smith - Painful Pleasures
or you can use other ring which you can also find on this website.

after 1 week when the piercing hole is healed with the help of Bepanthen then you can make 2 ties and eliminate frenulum this way. Read previous conversations to understand the techniques.
 
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Brahmanion;714118 said:
on painfulpleasures.com you can also order good percing needles:
STERILIZED CURVED PIERCING NEEDLES 18G-16-14G
Gauge 1.2mm ~ 16g
Sterilized Curved Piercing Needles 18g-16-14g PRICE PER 1 - Painful Pleasures

STERILIZED PIERCING PRECISION NEEDLE - SHARP PIERCING NEEDLE
Gauge 1.6mm ~ 14g
Length 48mm ~ 1-7/8"
Sterilized Piercing Precision Needle - Sharp Piercing Needle - Price Per 1 Needle - Painful Pleasures

I used this setup for double tie technique to create the hole and place 12G STAINLESS STEEL CAPTIVE BEAD RING
Diameter 13mm ~ 1/2"
Ball Size 5mm ~ 3/16"
12g CUSTOM Stainless Steel Captive Bead Ring 5/16" - 2-3/4" by Jeremy Smith - Painful Pleasures
or you can use other ring which you can also find on this website.

after 1 week when the piercing hole is healed with the help of Bepanthen then you can make 2 ties and eliminate frenulum this way. Read previous conversations to understand the techniques.
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Wow thanks for all this insight and even links to these tools. Very helpful thank you so much! Appreciate your work.
 
@Brahmanion:
Thanks for your answer.
So you prepared the holes with a piercing needle, and then you used that holes to do the tie? What are the benefits compared to directly pierce&tie?
You also expanded the hole with a piercing. If I pierce the frenulum with a needle and I don't use a piercing, will the hole remain or disappear?

I thought lidocaine worked in 10-15 min. Next time i'll leave it for an hour, and see if it's better. However, i noticed that pain depends also on which part of the frenulum is pierced.
I found piercing the frenulum difficult not only for the pain, but also because frenulum seems too strong, difficult to pierce. Maybe it's only a psychological thing, cut our own flesh it's difficult, and maybe i don't use the necessary force.


ps sorry for my bad english, if you don't understand something tell me and i'll try to explain better
 
no problem.
with double tie technique you can eliminate a piece of flesh in the middle of 2 ties and the healed piercing hole forms very smooth scarification. You still can make one hole and one tie then you cut the skin in the middle, which also works fine. All depends from the size and thickness of frenulum you have. Without photos its difficult to siggest something.

If you pierce the frenulum then the hole will dissapear with time and if the peircing hole is formed and healed and then you remove the ring then the formed hole will also disappear with time.
 
Hi, after many failed attemps,i finally did it!
After reading the Brahmanion's post, i decided to use a straight needle (not a piercing needle, but a simple syringe needle) instead of the built-in curved needle in the suture. I pierced the frenulum with the needle (i saw no blood), then i passed the thread through the needle. Then i removed the needle. Then i made the knot.
I used a "surgeon's knot". My only fear is: is the knot tight enough? I thightened it as much as possibile, but it seems that the "triple loop" knot is more difficult to tie with respect to a "normal knot", isn't it. Hope it's tight enought.
Now i don't feel any pain. I used a disinfectant and then I applied an antiseptic cream.
I may add sone pics tomorrow or in the next days, if you have any questions tell me.
 
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Hi, it's been almost two days since i did the tie.
I felt no pain in these 2 days, so my doubt is still the same: is the tie tight enought?
I decided to wait at least other 2 days, and then i'll have to decide what to do: do nothing and wait again or remake the knot? (and in that case: how to remake the knot? remove the old knot and make a new one, or do another tie near the older tie?)

I tried to take some photos but it's difficult to photograph a such small area with good quality, so pictures are not very good, however i decided to post them anyway, here are the pics:

before tie: https://i.imgur.com/1tGhLSu.jpg it's a very short frenulum, for this reason i decided to try frenulum tie

after tie (now): https://i.imgur.com/MV7XTr6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4ys6vc2.jpg


If you have any idea/suggestion please tell me
 
max999;715231 said:
Hi, it's been almost two days since i did the tie.
I felt no pain in these 2 days, so my doubt is still the same: is the tie tight enought?
I decided to wait at least other 2 days, and then i'll have to decide what to do: do nothing and wait again or remake the knot? (and in that case: how to remake the knot? remove the old knot and make a new one, or do another tie near the older tie?)

I tried to take some photos but it's difficult to photograph a such small area with good quality, so pictures are not very good, however i decided to post them anyway, here are the pics:

before tie: https://i.imgur.com/1tGhLSu.jpg it's a very short frenulum, for this reason i decided to try frenulum tie

after tie (now): https://i.imgur.com/MV7XTr6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4ys6vc2.jpg


If you have any idea/suggestion please tell me
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hi max999, your tie looks good, if you are not sure this not so tight then apply another tie on top of that. When I first time tied my fren I applied numerous ties on top of the first tie and it worked very good, after you can cut old not tight ties.
 
Brahmanion;715440 said:
hi max999, your tie looks good, if you are not sure this not so tight then apply another tie on top of that. When I first time tied my fren I applied numerous ties on top of the first tie and it worked very good, after you can cut old not tight ties.
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Your idea is reasonable but in my case it's difficult to find the hole, probably is too near to the glans, or just too small. I'll try to leave the knot for a few more days, is nothing happens i'll cut the knot and remake it, hoping that the hole will be visible.
 
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max999;715520 said:
Your idea is reasonable but in my case it's difficult to find the hole, probably is too near to the glans, or just too small. I'll try to leave the knot for a few more days, is nothing happens i'll cut the knot and remake it, hoping that the hole will be visible.
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you can use the needle like above and you will always find the hole :)
 
Brahmanion;715614 said:
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you can use the needle like above and you will always find the hole :)
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I can't see the attachment :(

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Ok, i found where is the hole. I also noticed that the nylon thread is enough rigid to pass through the hole (that is still small) without using a needle.
The difficult part is to cut the old knot. It's too small to cut with a small scissor or similar things. At the end i managed to cut all the "extra-knots" with a nail clipper (something like this: https://i.imgur.com/YH8NaqT.jpg).
So now i've only the first knot (the one with "double loop").
This evening i'll try to cut the old knot and remake the tie. I think this time i'll use a normal "single loop" knot, which is easier to tie tight.
 
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max999;715631 said:
I can't see the attachment :(

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Ok, i found where is the hole. I also noticed that the nylon thread is enough rigid to pass through the hole (that is still small) without using a needle.
The difficult part is to cut the old knot. It's too small to cut with a small scissor or similar things. At the end i managed to cut all the "extra-knots" with a nail clipper (something like this: https://i.imgur.com/YH8NaqT.jpg).
So now i've only the first knot (the one with "double loop").
This evening i'll try to cut the old knot and remake the tie. I think this time i'll use a normal "single loop" knot, which is easier to tie tight.
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Better you cut old knot after you made second tie ebcause first knot will be as a grip for second. And if you eliminate the first then its possible you wont be able to place second at the same place. I think better to use good quality hairdresser scissors because they have very sharp edges on top.
 
So I've been reading this thread for a while and I have a question. From what I can tell, I have one vein in my frenulum (I can't find the other) and it goes right through that tough stringy spot where I would be tying off. Basically, that one vein is gonna be in the knot that I'm planning. Is this dangerous at all? Any precautions or prep work I should do? Or am I unusual enough that I should talk to my doc and not do it myself?
 
I'm on day 12 now. Big progress in the last days, now only a small skin bridge is left, i think it will break in the next days.
I was a little worried in the past days because my progress seemed too slow (other people said it broke in about 7 days), but now i see it's really working.
I took some photos in the last days, i'll post a complete "photographic reportage" in the next days.



Pichu;715865 said:
So I've been reading this thread for a while and I have a question. From what I can tell, I have one vein in my frenulum (I can't find the other) and it goes right through that tough stringy spot where I would be tying off. Basically, that one vein is gonna be in the knot that I'm planning. Is this dangerous at all? Any precautions or prep work I should do? Or am I unusual enough that I should talk to my doc and not do it myself?
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If you don't have particular reasons for not going to the doctor, you can talk to him and get a "frenuloplasty" (google it), it's a fast surgery, healing in about 1 month. A "professional" surgery is by definition more secure then a do-it-by-yourself approach, and theoretically it should give better results.
Consider also that the frenuloplasty (see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPVYnbDaPhk) is different from the "tying method", i don't think a doctor will use an "unconventional" method as frenulum tying.

In this forum (and in some other forums) many people used the tying method, and nobody had infections or similar problems. So we can say that is a "reasonably secure" method.

Regarding to the vein, the tie will stop the blood flow and then the tissue will die. So it should not be a great problem. It can be a problem if someone use the "cutting method" (cutting the frenulum with a blade), giving massive bleeding. So, probably you can include the vein in the tie, but not pierce the frenulum through the vein because it can cause bleeding.

Here is an interesting thread: Fixing tight foreskins and phimosis: For the attention of paul B and Jim re: frenulum tying, ligation etc opinions please . Read the posts of PaulB (he's a surgeon if i understand correctly), he also talks about the veins in the frenulum.
For my experience i didn't see big veins in my frenulum, only zones where the skin is more thick and zones when the skin is more thin (and i pierced when it was thin).


So, look at the pros and cons and decide by yourself what to do .
 
Heyyyy thank you so much for the thread and for sharing your experiences. This thread encouraged me to tie my frenulum to get rid of it. I am done slicing off the toughest joining but there's another one to go to make it even more comfortable to pull back. I have made a video too which I'll try to edit by tomorrow. But you guys have been a lot helpful. Thank you :)
 
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