Frenulum Tying!

My friends,

Good news, my girlfriend has figured out a solution to my problem. She is going to help me with my next ties or ties, depending on how brave I feel. Something tells me after the first tie, I am just going to get her to rub emla cream and the heck with it, do a couple more ties while your at it to save time. It definitely does sick mates, having three tie spots all cinched and cutting through and sore and hurting at the same time.

Anyhow, to anyone who has the same problem of excess skin left in a flap or skin tag form after the thread cuts through completely, this solution may help you too.

1. Wash yourself clean. Sterilize with isopropyl alcohol wipes. Apply EMLA cream to anesthesize local area.

2. Clean your tools and equipment. Thread, needles, etc. Keep paper towel handy.

3. Dip thread if fiber or porous in alcohol. If stretch magic, can also dip or wipe with alcohol wipe.

4. Sterilize the needle, thread the needle with sterilizer thread.

5. Clean hands, area, all surfaces, make sure needle and thread are clean.

Now here are the steps to tie or remove these skin tag flaps remaining after a tying cuts through:

6. Poke needle through the middle of the lowest point on the skin tag flap. If you were to pull on it, as close to the shafts as possible should be your needle hole incision. Just like a frenulum tie.

7. Pull the needle all the way through the center lowest point on the skin tag flap. It will be two threads from the needle that comes through, you need both so don't just pull one thread like a normal tie is, you need both threads for this method to work.

8. One thread, tie a knot to cut the frontal edge. The other thread, tie the rear or back edge. It should seem like a donut with the two threads in the middle, the threads are pulled in opposite directions and the threads are tied in double surgeons knots. So if you picture a vertically oriented donut, the two knots would be on separate sides of the center donut ring. And since they both have the same center point as the middle, if they both cut or slice outwards, they should sever off circulation from the center core of the tag skin flap, and the thread should bite into both sides, cutting the flap off neatly.

It still is two knots, so one side may cut through faster than the other due to them being different knots and not a single knot cutting cutting the skin tag off. My ticklers are very very small, so it will be interesting to see if I can even tie two knots out from the center of one skin tag flap.

This so far seems my best solution to get rid of remaining sensitive skin. Without a razorblade slice leaving a big wound open to get infected. And since I'd have to do multiple flaps its probably better this way. And if it works, I won't mind hacking away at my frenulum to loosen it up some more, and then just basically doing this double sided donut tie for each and every new skin tag flap that occurs from tie cuts eating through the frenulum cord

But I will start off with the two tie cuts below that created the skin tag flaps in the first place and test removing those two first and then go from there.

Good luck mates, if this works for me I will definitely let you guys know my results. Cheers
 
UnknownUser420;483507 said:
My friends,

Good news, my girlfriend has figured out a solution to my problem. She is going to help me with my next ties or ties, depending on how brave I feel. Something tells me after the first tie, I am just going to get her to rub emla cream and the heck with it, do a couple more ties while your at it to save time. It definitely does sick mates, having three tie spots all cinched and cutting through and sore and hurting at the same time.

Anyhow, to anyone who has the same problem of excess skin left in a flap or skin tag form after the thread cuts through completely, this solution may help you too.

1. Wash yourself clean. Sterilize with isopropyl alcohol wipes. Apply EMLA cream to anesthesize local area.

2. Clean your tools and equipment. Thread, needles, etc. Keep paper towel handy.

3. Dip thread if fiber or porous in alcohol. If stretch magic, can also dip or wipe with alcohol wipe.

4. Sterilize the needle, thread the needle with sterilizer thread.

5. Clean hands, area, all surfaces, make sure needle and thread are clean.

Now here are the steps to tie or remove these skin tag flaps remaining after a tying cuts through:

6. Poke needle through the middle of the lowest point on the skin tag flap. If you were to pull on it, as close to the shafts as possible should be your needle hole incision. Just like a frenulum tie.

7. Pull the needle all the way through the center lowest point on the skin tag flap. It will be two threads from the needle that comes through, you need both so don't just pull one thread like a normal tie is, you need both threads for this method to work.

8. One thread, tie a knot to cut the frontal edge. The other thread, tie the rear or back edge. It should seem like a donut with the two threads in the middle, the threads are pulled in opposite directions and the threads are tied in double surgeons knots. So if you picture a vertically oriented donut, the two knots would be on separate sides of the center donut ring. And since they both have the same center point as the middle, if they both cut or slice outwards, they should sever off circulation from the center core of the tag skin flap, and the thread should bite into both sides, cutting the flap off neatly.

It still is two knots, so one side may cut through faster than the other due to them being different knots and not a single knot cutting cutting the skin tag off. My ticklers are very very small, so it will be interesting to see if I can even tie two knots out from the center of one skin tag flap.

This so far seems my best solution to get rid of remaining sensitive skin. Without a razorblade slice leaving a big wound open to get infected. And since I'd have to do multiple flaps its probably better this way. And if it works, I won't mind hacking away at my frenulum to loosen it up some more, and then just basically doing this double sided donut tie for each and every new skin tag flap that occurs from tie cuts eating through the frenulum cord

But I will start off with the two tie cuts below that created the skin tag flaps in the first place and test removing those two first and then go from there.

Good luck mates, if this works for me I will definitely let you guys know my results. Cheers
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Good manual!
 
Hi Watson,

Welcome !, and congrats on the ties !

Watson31;483473 said:
I am now on my fourth tie but really the most successful one in term0 ofs gain was the first one, about 2cm.
Stretch Magic is also available from Amazon but although everyone says it's the best thing to use I have previously used plain cotton which seems to have worked out OK even though I have always cut through the remaining tissue after about 7 days.
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I used cotton on my first tie, but it was croche cotton, which was really strong. What type did you use - just normal cotton, or something stronger ?
 
Hi UnknownUser,

Very good plan !
The only possible flaw I can think of is that if you put the needle through to far down (i.e. close to the shaft) it might move up slightly, and make a slight "forked tongue".
Please let us know how it progresses, and post photos if possible.

Good luck !
 
Hi Phallus,

Things have been quite the last week or so.

My second tie went ok, but I think I should have gone closer to the shaft, and a little further back from the glans.
Will post photos of the result on flickr.

So I'm also about to do a third tie - hope this is the final one !
 
JanBarrel;484260 said:
Hi Phallus,

Things have been quite the last week or so.

My second tie went ok, but I think I should have gone closer to the shaft, and a little further back from the glans.
Will post photos of the result on flickr.

So I'm also about to do a third tie - hope this is the final one !
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Could you pick up the slack in the 3rd tie? If it is off it may cause unwanted curvature.
 
A bit off topic here but I was wondering if a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] would help a phimotic ring? I'm thinking about the effect that the expansion would have on the ring and if, with routine use, it would stretch it out to the normal girth of the rest of the shaft skin...
 
Hi Phallus,

I've been keeping an eye out for a solution since I saw your photos.
Recently read about using a cylinder that you pull the skin over in the forwards direction - this, along with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] might help ?
 
JanBarrel;484891 said:
Hi Phallus,

I've been keeping an eye out for a solution since I saw your photos.
Recently read about using a cylinder that you pull the skin over in the forwards direction - this, along with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] might help ?
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Ah I think I know of that cylinder thing. Is it a cone shaped plastic thing with a slit in it?

So far I've been keeping it retracted for hours a day and it seems to work. The only problem is if I leave it forward overnight or something like that it will sort of heal in that state and become tight again no matter how long I leave it retracted. I suppose I'll have to practise expanding it as often as I can while keeping it retracted almost 24/7. Maybe the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] will help
 
Just did my fourth and fifth ties to cut off the bottom most leftover frenulum skin material mates.

The middle tie cut also created a middle leftover frenulum flap or nubbin and I attempted a sixth and seventh donut/doubletie as mentioned in previous post and what I did for tie four and five, but stretcHydromaxagic is much thicker than normal thread so it took more pressure and force to poke through. As well when reaching the thicker thread, when the thread portion poked through near the end of the needle, it really stretched skin and made a bigger hole for the stretcHydromaxagic making it bleed heavily. Slippery stretcHydromaxagic cord, I had to abandon team attempt for tie six and seven were failures. Healing and try again.

As a consolation I did an eighth tie, another at the very top continuing the detacHydromaxent from the anchor point. Very shallow still, but also testing stretch magic for the first time in two spots. Will know more of what to do after these stretch magic ties cut through and how to proceed. Excited for results.

Will update soon, kind of disappointed I didn't get the middle but I guess still have to see how the bottom does with new material before committing to both. But tested the top for the eighth tie. I think I have a lot more ties to go, but will gain all that I possibly can, with careful planning and execution.

Cheers mates, I hope your own procedures are much easier and going well for you!
 
Slept very well without discomfort or pain. Woke up and checked this morning, no more bleeding from the failed middle poke hole, the top seems holding nice, it's just a shallow tie maybe 1-1.5mm of frenulum to be removed slowly from the glans. Very much like chipping away at the cord. The middle, nothing it going on so far. As the proximal distance to the bottom flap is so close spacewise, I may wait for results from the bottommost tie to give or cut through first giving more space to access and tie around the middle flap. It can be done now, but I will be a little patient this time and let the cord do its stretch magic. I hope I prestretched enough as the bottom donut tie does not seem as pinched as a single knot, but again that's probably why too.

I hope the doublethread donut tie method does indeed work, otherwise to remove flaps we may need to tie one side to cut through, then tie the other to cut completely off. I could have just done this, but again trying to save time. This failed middle tie will cost me about a week or so time extra to redo after, with the multiple ties I still need up front and maybe clean up the extra frenulum v breve skin material opposite the foreskin as well. Lots to do, to get things looking the way I want, then I can continue pe exercises without straining or ripping my frenulum further.

It's still a work in progress but I do not regret starting this procedure. It is really only going to get better. And it's like we've outgrown a pair of jeans, things are so tight down there mates. I cannot wait to fit into a proper size, no stretching, tearing, ripping or the feeling of being held back, like trying on a pair of britches that are too tight, you have to squeeze into them like skintight leathers 4 sizes too small. Then you find a perfect pair of britches just your perfect size, and no squeezing or straining, you just fit perfect. That's how I want to feel, not too large or outgrown the skin im in, or in this case, I've outgrown a short frenulum and need the extra space to stretch. It's like being in a small room your whole life never ever been able to stand up tall. That's how I feel down there mates, can't wait for all the freedom that's coming.

Cheers mates
 
UnknownUser420;485046 said:
It's like being in a small room your whole life never ever been able to stand up tall. That's how I feel down there mates, can't wait for all the freedom that's coming.

Cheers mates
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Well said and I hope all of your goals come true.
 
I know exactly how you feel, UnknownUser420.

When I first saw the pages on tying the frenulum I knew it would be the solution. I could already feel the freedom in my mind. Not having to worry about it now is amazing and it's now letting me focus my energy on the bigger things at hand. Can't wait to start back on the Penis Enlargement journey again :)

Best of everything to you!
 
Hi Fellas,

Quick update, not much really going on except waiting for the ties to cut through. On my second round of three ties done at once, the race is still on to see which will win this time. I am cheering for the top tie to finish up problem free, and then the bottom is two ties in one, so time will tell if the front or back tie cuts through first. The pinched or tied skin is turning darker colored red or purple from the tying off I think. I feel a dull soreness, similar to the first ties, so again just got to get through this uncomfortable part and once one tie cuts through, hopefully I can just snip off the excess and heal from there.

Hoping that the bottom clean up procedure of excess skin works well. Worst case situation, I believe can be fixed by overly numbing the area and then using a new sharp razor or exacto to remove all extra nubs or pieces of skin completely without any extra at all. This however wont be a tie at all, and will need a steady hand and precise cut without hesitation in order to just slice and remove whats needed and allow it to heal naturally.

Really looking forward to the second round of ties cutting through, so I can start the next set and remove both the bottom and middle extra flaps. I've already begun the second tie too up top, so its like I am working at it from both ends, but hopefully clean up the bottom cosmetically and only have the top to worry about afterwards. Have only gained about 0.5cm in length since starting this procedure, but the extra freedom gained is already worth it. If I had to stop now, it did at least relieve a lot of tension pressure on the cord, but I will be so ecstatic to fully able to stretch out, and not have a little downward pull on the gland head from the frenulum. The best is probably being able to go hard at it now without having to worry about that rip or tearing your banjo string completely. Theres nothing to describe going at it carefully, slowly, gingerly vs. going at it just primal lust full on. She can feel the difference in lack of hesitation and also more power and force without me holding back mentally as before.

I really hope you guys achieve your goals as well! Thanks Phallus for first posting this thread. You've really helped a lot of us immensely. With years of problems for many of us mates, it feels SO GOOD to finally be able to be proactive and do something about it, instead of just trolling for online medical procedures your too afraid to ask for to get done, or too embarassed to talk to your GP about. I remember when I first learned of frenuloplasty, and building myself up to talk to my GP to book me into the urologist and see if this procedure is covered costwise too. Had I known it would lead to self tying procedures so easy, I wish I really knew about this years earlier - hopefully it will help others too!

I know every time another chap chimes in, "just did my first tie", it makes me feel like we really are helping others, as well as fixing our own dilemnas at the same time. Hopefully by my next post, another tie will have cut through, and I will be closer to frenular freedom, my friends.
 
Hey Phallus,

Just saw some of your before and after pics a few forum pages back, and mate, I feel for you. That phimotic ring looks so troublesome! But at least your frenulum procedure went well. Though I dont have phimosis to deal with personally, now that I see what troubles you, will do my best to find out or help you out, even though this is somewhat frenulum breve based initially, your concerns are valid and I hope we can help you with your phimotic as youve helped us with the frenulum breve.


I have just found some photos I thought were previously deleted of my first rip/microtears in the middle, and then pictures of the first three ties I did with normal thread. I didnt take pictures recently of the second group of ties using stretch magic, but I can take a quick pick of the after-procedure of the second set of ties to show the changes from the first ties, and location of the second ties.

Going to be out tonight, but when I get some time this evening or weekend, I will pony up some pics for Jan's private group on Flikr, sorry it has taken so long, appreciate your patience all.

Still a work in process, bear with me as I sculpt a masterpiece!
 
Uh oh mates, we have a bleeder!!!!!!!!!

So was checking progress this morning of the second group of ties with my gf, and noticed the top had more distance gained. Looked like the knot cut through but was still held there by maybe a small loop of skin, almost invisible or nonexistent, I couldn't see why it hadn't fallen off if it had cut through...

The top tie cut through, but I was impatient and seeing the knot still held there by almost nothing, it was just bugging me. I yanked the knot of stretch cord that seemed to be just floating there on the end of the frenulum. It started gushing blood, I was worried I hit the frenulum vein and needed to go to the hospital. Worse yet, this occurred this morning, not at home, I slept over at my girlfriends so it happened in her bed! It was bleeding heavy too, I was really worried until it stopped. Still going to wait before inspecting more, I don't want to rip and start the bleeding all over again.

Well my worst worry and fear happened, so it's not so bad now, but declined to take pics of the bloody mess to keep his from turning into a gore thread and scaring others off. Yes it did happen, yes it was lots of blood, but it wasn't bad once it stopped, what a bloody mess to clean up though.

Anyhow long story short, thought I was in serious trouble or had to go to the emergency ward at the hospital. Not fun at all mates. Anyhow it seems more superficial now after the fact, going to wait to heal before proceeding on the top again. Bottom doubletie also has work left to do, it was nowhere near as fast or quick, but I'm wondering if it's human error and I didn't prestretch the cord enough first. Time will tell, I guess the worst that can happen has already. If you heard the whole situation it was actually quite humorous but I am still recovering from the shock of gushing blood from my dick!

But up near the top tie, everything is going picture perfect accordingly to my plan, I don't think a cosmetic surgeon will have done a better job once I am done. Have gained it seems 4-5mm up top separating the glans, 1.5mm distance for the middle tie cut, and 3-4mm from the bottom tie cut. 1cm doesn't sound like much in total, but it's enough to loosen things up down there and no more ripping or tearing issues. Peace of mind is worth all the discomfort and blood and pain to get there. Many shallow ties is what I prefer for my situation for sure.

Can't wait to heal and proceed, and also finish up the middle and bottom sections too. This is going much better than expected after all the bumps in the road have been sorted and smoothed out. Very happy on results
 
UnknownUser420;485293 said:
If you heard the whole situation it was actually quite humorous but I am still recovering from the shock of gushing blood from my dick!
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That is some scary shit! Be sure to use a lot of topical anti-biotic ointment and keep the area clean.
 
So janbarrel, did you do your third tie?

I see you mentioned you may have gone too far up or too deep, so I am wondering how things ended up for you after the tie cut through and you had a chance to recover.

I went up as high as I could for my top tie on the glans, but it was only after the needle went through I saw I could have gone up a mm higher. Even so, by my second tie up top cutting through, you could see the finished effect up on the glans, it is a picture perfect textbook separation without any leftover material up top, even though I poked a mm back from where intended. I didn't think the bottom ties would create any problems as they have, and without them, my tying back shallowly from the top would have been completely problem free from start to finish.

Once I get these pics finally posted, you will see my similar situation to yours, except the added extra skin and material complicating thing for me and the extra large leftover frenulum skin that I am still going to have to deal with, when most people will be finishing up their procedures, I need to do a tie for that forward facing frenulum flap left over. Somehow I am thinking like how they tie off dogs tails, that my remainder frenulum flap will be like a tail, but forward facing cause I cut from top down/back. It will be my biggest skin flap tie off, so I guess it's just as well I have the bottom and middle to attend to first to get some practice in before doing that last final frenulum tie to remove the last of the material. I had just planned to do multiple ties with no real setup or order of logical operations, but now I know what I am going to do and in what order. So in the near future, the pictures may do more talking than my posts do. But so far even without pics I hope my descriptions have been helpful to at least some of you, and hopefully for future forum members who might have the same issue or problem to deal with.

Is everyone else finished with their ties? Are you happy with the results? Please post if you have tied already, are in the process of tying or thinking about doing so. Must be from at least a half dozen to a dozen forum members now who have tied or tying as we speak? Hopefully it has been positive and beneficial to everyone who has tried it.

Waiting for my last tie that's installed to cut through, nothing else going on really til then to report. Cheers mates. Good luck to all
 
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