Frenulum Tying!

UnknownUser420;482415 said:
How tight should I tie this knot? Like tighter than pulling on and tying up your shoelaces? Should it hurt or feel uncomfortable???
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Yea that's a good measure to see how tight to pull. I'd say to pull a bit tighter still. When I tied mine, I pulled the thread to the point where I was expecting the thread to snap. Shoe-lace tightness or slightly tighter should be enough force though I think. I did it as tight as I dared. I wish I could give a more accurate answer and it might vary with the different threads used. I used Coats Elastic Sewing Thread, by the way. I found the packet earlier today. The thread is 60% Elastane and 40% Polyester:

http://www.coatscrafts.co.uk/Products/Sewing/threads/Coats+Elastic.htm

JanBarrel;482426 said:
Hi Phallus,
Good to hear from you again - thanks for the trouble to try and find the name of that thread you used ! Appreciate it.
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I managed to find the packet today! The thread is Coats Elastic Thread. Turns out it was 60% Elastane and 40% Polyester:

http://www.coatscrafts.co.uk/Products/Sewing/threads/Coats+Elastic.htm - that's the one I used except mine was Black not White. You get 10m of thread which should be enough for all our tying needs lol. I bought mine in a supermarket at the end of an isle and it was in a slightly different packet but it's the exact same stuff. If you want, i'll upload a couple pics of my packet but that's the one anyway!

Hope this helps rofl
 
It has been a while since I did my first ties and this time period has allowed everything to full recover and adjust.

Some time within the next 4 or 5 weeks, when I have a lot of free time, I'll be doing a 3rd tie to further increase the slackness to the level that I want. At the moment it is good and I'm very pleased but I feel it is time for the next stage in my sculpture.

By now it is second nature, so I will be able to comfortably take a bunch of photos of the process for anyone who's interested! For me, I'm at the point where I'm just tweaking things into perfection now.


I wish everyone the best of luck who is doing there's now or within the next few days! Keep us posted! rofl
 
Congrats UnkownUser !! :cool:
Not that sore at all ! - The worst part for me was the waiting !
Please feel free to post your pics on the flickr page.
Thanks for the detailed descriptions - I loved the " ... excuse me while I look up the knot on google ...." - cool as a cucumber !
I think such detailed descriptions will really help other people - it did in my case. I also agree that we should document this whole thing somehow.
 
Did 2nd tie today !!
I decided to use "Johnson&Johnson, Reach dental floss, regular waxed" as an experiment.
Needed a slight bit of lube to thread through the skin. Its very strong, but the "knot holding" ability isn't as good as the croche yarn I used for my first tie.
Once again I didn't use anything to numb the area - although I did feel slightly more pain on this one, probably because its quite deep and close to the shaft.
If it seems not to be working I will replace it with the elastic thread that Phallus used - then hopefully, I can compare all three.
I will try to paste the photos on flickr tomorrow.
(If anyone has a better way of posting the photos please let us know - I can't seem to get flickr to make something like a directory structure ?)
 
Update guys,

My three tie race is still at a standstill, one has yet to pull ahead of the race and take the lead.

Now it's been days, no more sore or pain at the tie..... Is my body adjusting?

I feel like I have pierced my buddy down there, without jewelery and just string in the place of where metal would be. I am relating to ear piercing where again a hole is poked through with a sharp needle and it heals around the hole created. I'm worried there's no cutting action now and just a few tie holes.


I will give it a few. More days in the name of patience, but I may find some elastic stuff if I have to retie. I'm yanking on the tiez to keep them tight best I can


Any advice of opinions?
 
Might try the dental floss if I can't find that damn stretch magic. How's it working for you Jan?

Itfellow. What kind thread you use and did you tug or tighten or just let the tie do all the work?


Maybe too shallow a tie doesn't work the same without as much meat or skin material to go through.

I'm gonna post pics up on flickr so you can help chime in mates if you have something helpful to say or any comments are welcome too. I am obviously completely straight as most of you mates are, and not everyday I ask another fella to look at the jewels down there, so I do appreciate what we all have to bear through to find a solution and relief. Just wanted to say thanks again, you guys are helping me an each other with the do it yourself courage needed to start this procedure.
 
Found and arts and crafts store in the retail villa in a few towns over, they said they have all sizes of the stretch magic, so I guess 0.5mm is the way to go. It looks like the smallest amount is a lot too, so I guess if anyone wants or needs some, let me know, I will probably have lots leftover once I'm done, unless I have to do lots more multi ties.... Anyways, I'm thinking of undying the three, and revoking-rendering with stretch magic once I acquire some this afternoon.

And I will post pics up ASAP once I'm back in and have the stretchy stuff. I am gonna call my normal thread tie attempt somewhat of a failure, possibly due to being too shallow a tie or knot, and not enough skin to bite through or cut through properly. I can probably also account some impatience as well for part of this failed attempt, as I did not wait 1-2 weeks for it to cut through. Feeling as though I have wasted enough time now, I think that elastic stuff will really help to cut through my super shallow ties. Maybe thread would work for a deep bunch of scrunched up skin, but not for a super taut 1mm diameter frenulum 'attachment cord' that is the connecting or anchor point for the frenulum to glans.

Will redo all three ties with stretch magic. Do you want me to post just the new stretch magic results or would you like to see my whole previously failed attempt #1 too? I can just post a few showing before and after/done tying, or if you want all the steps in between, I can do that too. Of all the pics so far, mine procedure is the least bloody, actually none at all. I saw some red in some others pics which made me cringe a bit, but that's just me.


Off to the shops to pickup the off-label use stretch magic beading cord. Maybe after the surgeon knots add a couple colored beads to bring out your tie. Well, they make colored stitches/suture threads as well as colored casts, why not add some color to your frenulum tie as well? Just kidding.

Will post some updates once I return home, thanks mates, cheers and great day. Round 2. Right!
 
Hi UnkownUser,
So far I'm not that impressed with the dental floss - doesn't hold the knot very well, and I have to keep tightening the top set of the 4 knots I did in it.
This might be because I used the "waxed" type - was more focused on getting through the hole behind the needle than its knotting ability.
I think I will try and find some of that elastic mixture that Phallus used tomorrow, and replace the floss.

My first tie took quite a while to finish, and things were really slow for the first week, after that it was quite quick, so don't lose heart !
 
I used flat type dental floss for two of my knots. at the end when only half of quarter mm of skin left, i became impatient and pulled the string out, however there was very little amount of pain involved in this pull. lasted only for a minute or so.

I was unable to find the suitable stretchable thread, whatever i found were not convincing in terms of quality. The dental floss was very strong. I used double surgeon knots and it held till last. the knots were firm may be because the thread was flat. and yes, it was waxed too.

Just put as much pressure as you can, it may reduce the waiting time significantly and also the loose knots issue.

Thanks.
 
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Hi,
My second tie broke through yesterday morning while putting ointment on it.
I had the dental floss in all the way, without tightening it - only the very top knot seemed to come loose, and had the two end needed to be tightened up.
I must say, it wasn't as much skin in the tie as my first tie, so that also helps a bit.
ItFellow, I will try tape kind for the next tie and see how it goes.
UnknownUser, how are your multiple ties going ?
 
JanBarrel;483322 said:
Hi again,
Just posted 6 photos of the second tying on flickr - any comments are welcome !
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Do you have a direct link?
 
Hey guys,

Good news, the impatience is over with as all three ties have finally eaten and chewed through their spots on the frenulum and I would have to say although all technically successful, they did not all turn out the way I had hoped or wanted to. One problem was my bottom two ties were done too close, so at the very bottom there is a stegosaurus effect going on. Or what I can best describe is that it looks like maybe I got a barbell cocktail ring pierced on the shafts about 1 inch down from the bottom of the glans and looks like the barbell has been ripped out violently leaving the two sides flaps remaining and barbell and top flap missing. They are both super sensitive now, having just pulled the last bottom tie impatiently out/off today that one is still really sore. But it seems these stegosaurus humps still contain a lot of nerve endings they are extremely sensitive to touch right now, so I don't know what to do. My girlfriend is trying to cheer me up and says it's a work in progress and that it's like a built in tickler for her pleasure so if it's sensitive for me, that's good too. But as I just ripped the last tie out of its final little skip of skin just today, I don't feel safe to have sex without a condom on because of the soreness and friction and potential for open wound. I want to heal first then give an update.

Oh my top tie has gone the best cosmetically. It has just detached the thinnest tip of the anchor point of the glans and there is still basically all the whole frenulum still to deal with, I feel now I know enough to sculpt and do proper ties where needed to best detach the frenulum with best cosmetic effect.

Future plans, to go back at the top again and further work my way back with shallow ties. It will be longer and more ties than one thick deep pinching of each, but I think it'll have the best cosmetic result this way. The lower extra frenulum skin flaps remaining after the two bottom ties cut through, I may opt to freeze them with emla cream anesthetic and then quickly slice them off with a sharp razor, or I was thinking of clipping them off may even while large toenail clippers. They resemble large skin tags really, I wonder if a wart freezer kit or skin tag remover kit would get rid if them, but I'm worried as they are basically total flap of bundled nerves right now possibly the most sensitive in my body. I think I will give a week to consider and think about my next ties.

I may also do a tie at my microtear point in the middle. Now that the top and bottom are detached, I can work on the top and work its way back. The two extra flaps, I might just try tying a knot around itself and seeing if it will cut off that way. But gonna heal first mates. Will take pics of the result once healed, it's sore so I don't wanna pull too hard around down there right now.

Cheers
 
WOW UnknownUser, that sounds wild ! :cool:
I'm really impressed that someone has had the guts to try multiple ties at once - I suspect this might be a first !

I sort of considered two ties for my first tie, and wondered if a "horizontal" tie would be able to get rid of the "tickler".
Its not a good idea to put to much strain on it now, I found it makes small tears quite easily - have to give it at least two weeks.

Looking forward to seeing your pics ! (You should be able to post them on the flickr page - let me know if you can't)
 
JanBarrel;483412 said:
WOW UnknownUser, that sounds wild ! :cool:
I'm really impressed that someone has had the guts to try multiple ties at once - I suspect this might be a first !

I sort of considered two ties for my first tie, and wondered if a "horizontal" tie would be able to get rid of the "tickler".
Its not a good idea to put to much strain on it now, I found it makes small tears quite easily - have to give it at least two weeks.

Looking forward to seeing your pics ! (You should be able to post them on the flickr page - let me know if you can't)
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Link?
 
I am now on my fourth tie but really the most successful one in term0 ofs gain was the first one, about 2cm.

Stretch Magic is also available from Amazon but although everyone says it's the best thing to use I have previously used plain cotton which seems to have worked out OK even though I have always cut through the remaining tissue after about 7 days.

Great Forum BTW.


PS. Please advise me a very first stage size program if possible.

Thanks to all.
 
Hey guys,

I was about to post some pics up for you all, but it seems my gf may have deleted the previous pics when she took the camera out on a day trip with her friends. She didn't know they were there and had to turn the camera away quickly when reviewing the photos with her friends, I can only imagine her face, somehow its very funny to me right now. Anyhow, I may have some saved on the pc, but won't know till I check. Unfortunately you'll all have to bear with my descriptions for now. I can retake all the pics, but the microtear area has healed well, no more giant hole of a rip and whitish color skin around the tear signifying dead skin cells. Actually over time as it healed, the white skin cells just kinda rubbed or fell off, similar to a snake shedding skin I suppose is a good metaphor to use.

So I tried having sex with a condom, things are much looser now for me down there, not as much tension or frenulum tightness and even with my gf having not had sex in a week or two, she had also been a bit tighter which I guess was a good test. Some things to note, the little extra tickler nubbin are hella sensitive, and not in a good way. I imagine to picture the frenulum cord in a 3d cross section, that the outer edges or perimeter would be hardened off or least sensitive than the inside. It seems my ties may have cut through the desensitized part or outer edge. Where the ties have cut through, I'm not sure if you all notice this too, but where the tie was, it takes off a chunk of skin from the frenulum. A tiny little knot seems to remove a 1mm wide section of the frenulum cord. Except now the cross section or side is exposed I think. Think of a ham or kolbassa sausage, where there's the side, lengthwise. Then if u look at it sideways, the cross section style slices, I think normally the frenulum cord is like a sausage. There is that outer sausage casing protecting the nerve bundles inside. Except where my ties were, and what it cut through, I think on either sides of my skin flap tickler nubbin, is that exposed side cross section (think sausage slices, the slice sides are now exposed.

And though of course the frenulum is highly sensitive so I'm not to say it's desensitized in any way, I am just comparing the inner and outer layer of the frenulum cord and their respective sensitivity. I am only commenting on this because the frenulum is sensitive enough on its own. But after my procedure, it seems even more sensitive so I am guessing maybe I exposed more nerve endings in my cut areas of the ties.

I found also that to be true with my top tie near the glans. Where it cut through, u can almost see the cross section too, kinda like a cut rope end. That area is still highly sensitive. Plus, the frenulum skin below he detacHydromaxent point is also a bit redder and looks more sore. It's seriously almost like I have a bunch of extra skin to deal with, on top of the frenulum I have to deal with. If urs is just a tiny band strap connection point, then it's like simply snapping a rubber band cord and detaching it. But if u got lots of extra material and frenulum skin, and then raised skin material from the stretched f renulum cord being so taut, it literally pulls out of your skin, like exiled15s pics, they look actually like cracks. Surface cracks. So I have the meat to deal with like janbarrel does, but also raised up like exiled15s as well, so my tie might actually be more complicated than most.

Now because I did 3 ties, 1 top, 2 bottom, that still leaves lot of frenulum material I could add more ties to. And if I do the same as before, I will end up with a few more tickler skin flap tags, in the middle now between the three ties. It could literally be a single row of like 6 skin flaps, basically looking like 5 barbells got torn out from the frenulum, and only the side skin materials of the holes remain. That way, I can completely get rid of the short frenulum problem, since I basically hacked the cord into segments, it should free up a lot of skin. And then go from there.

All is not lost. The top tie detached just as I wanted it to. I can still slowly work on that carefully. A half dozen ties should completely detach the frenulum. But then I will have a really long, forward facing skin flap, basically the front leading point edge of the frenulum. But I think that could be tied off like how puppies get their tails tied off. Which leads me to the bottom two skin tag flaps right now. I may opt to leave the top and middle for now and allow to deal, while I figure out how to remove these flaps below. Any suggestions or ideas are welcomed and appreciated.
 
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