Frenulum Tying!

JanBarrel;481161 said:
PhallusOfOsiris,
In one of your old posts you mentioned that you used "elastic cotton/polyester sewing thread" - what thickness was this thread, and do you have any idea what to call it if I try to buy some ?
Also, normal elastic stretches about two and a half times its length - was the thread you used that "stretchy" ?
Thanks !
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Sorry for the late reply!

I'll have to get back to you on the exact name and size of the thread I used but I think it was 1mm thickness. Yes it was that stretchy. Infact it was because of its elasticity that I didn't tie it tight enough the first time and so I had to stretch the thread even more so it cut through better on the second tying.

Sorry for not being as helpful as I could've been, i've forgotten the brand name and i'll see if I can find the packet it was in. I guess any thread that is polyester and cotton, and is elastic, and 1mm thickness, it will do the job no problem! I will reply with more accurate info soon though if I can rofl

Stay well
 
UnknownUser420;481720 said:
Would that be suitable phallus or what brand or kind did you use?
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Hello UnknowUser420! Apologies for the late reply!

I've just finished reading through the new posts i've missed in my week's absence. Welcome to the thread!

Like I said to JanBarrel, I can't remember the name of thread I used only that it was it 1mm thick, made of elasticated cotton and polyester, and black in colour. If I can find out the name of it i'll reply ASAP! The needle I used was the smallest sewing needle I could find (It came in a small pack of 8 needles, I used the smallest one in the pack...maybe 1mm or 1.2-1.5mm max).

The anaesthetic I would use is the EMLA one with 5% but i'm sure the 2.5% one will work just as good. I can say that when I first pushed the needle through and pulled the thread through the hole, it did feel weird but it was all a mental thing. After about 10 secs of this new sensation I began to come back to reality and get the job done by tying the knot twice.

I honestly don't think it matters a great deal where you do your first tie. I would say, especially as you suffer from a lot of micro-tears, to perhaps do the first one nearst to the top just underneath the glans and then work downwards with future ties if needed. I reckon this will make it easier to attend to during the first few days of the cutting process and should prevent any unnecessary tears as you won't have to retract the foreskin as far.

Your situation sounds a lot like mine was except I've only had 2 tears on the frenulum when I decided to search for a solution. I can tell you, unless you've grown very sentimental to your frenulum, you will be very happy once it's been dealt with and will probably wonder why you didn't do it sooner. After my first tying had been done and healed, I reflected on the whole experience. The thing that took me the most time to do was to get all the tools together. As soon as I had everything I needed I looked at my calendar and chose the night I would do it (It was a Friday night when I had the whole evening and weekend to myself which was brilliant for the first couple days of healing privacy). I was excited and enthusiastic about it, I watched the clocked as it neared the hour of the first tying session. The only nervousness I felt was when the head of the needle touched the frenulum. I then slowly poked it harder until the tip came through the other side. Once pierced I tugged the rest of the needle through with the thread following.

It's one of those things where you just do it and once you've done it you're never afraid to do it again.

Please reply back if there's anything you need to know. I feel I may have been rather brief after reading through everything and may have missed something! Let us know rofl

Be well
 
Medicating;481898 said:
Is this a mainly uncut guys problem? I'm cut and when doing girth yesterday I noticed the frenulum is a little tight when my head gets fully engorged when I clamp. Thought nothing of it until I saw this thread.
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I think a lot of guys who are circumsised often have their frenulum removed too or, at least, altered in some way where it may not be as much of a problem as it would be for an uncut guy.

I'm not circumsised and my frenulum wasn't always a problem for me growing up and during my teen years. It was only when my phimotic ring took a turn for the worse and began to tighten around the opening of the foreskin which put more tension on the frenulum during retraction did it become a problem.

Unless it becomes painfull or begins to pull your head down when fully engorged, I wouldn't see it as a problem. It may even stretch itself over time if you continue to clamp or do other intense exercises.

See how it goes!
 
Exiled15;481904 said:
Medicating- wait til I get my camera back tomorrow and I'll show you some freaky frenulum shit I got going on!!! I just stretched right through the pain and it ended up ripping a little itself!!! Im a savage beast????
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Looking forward to this becoming a gore thread!

PhallusOfOsiris;482064 said:
I think a lot of guys who are circumsised often have their frenulum removed too or, at least, altered in some way where it may not be as much of a problem as it would be for an uncut guy.
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Mine's still there. It's a little tight. it doesn't pull the head down or anything but when I'm fully erect, i.e., when I clamp, it does get a little whiter, like it's being stretched. I could never, ever imagine cutting it myself though, If it started pulling the head down or was painfully tight, I'd go to the doctors.
 
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Oh its nothing gory whatsoever!!! more just a " How the fuck did that happen?" and "How in the fuck is his frenelum petruding that far down his shaft?" ME AS WELL?:(
 
Does anyone have any pictures yet? I will snap one of mine tonight and post. You can see how much length I gained from the accident:) ABout 3/4"
 
PhallusOfOsiris;482225 said:
There are pictures on the Flickr group page including JanBarrels process and a before/after picture of mine.

I'll see if I can get mine in this thread.
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Link?
 
here are my pictures of what I got going on with my frenulum... Now it seems that the frenulum is petruding furtherdown the shaft causing it to tear on its own because I just keep stretching through the pain!!! If you look close enough you can see that a scab has developed about an inch long where the self tearing started to occur and continuously tears more and more everyday... Little painful but go look at "exiled's ultimate proof if you had doubts" thread to see the drastic change in the passed 11 days of my flacid hang!!!!! RADICULOUS.... Anyway heres the picturesView attachment 25348View attachment 25349View attachment 25350
 
Hey Exiled,

I got something similar too going on, u can see it like a raised vein underneath but not so bad or tearing like yours. My tear is up much higher in the middle of the frenulum itself. Now I would still consider ur problem is frenulum related still, just not normally where most people have a problem. But the good thing is you should be able to do a few ties down there with very little to cut through and healing should be fast and scar free too.

Phallus, thanks for your explanation, it helps a lot. I have actually been showing my girlfriend pictures of the guy who did his own procedure online and posted pics and explanation, and she seems more understanding and didn't realize it was causing that much discomfort and mostly self consciousness during sex. The prospect of a little more energetic or rougher shall we say has got her just about excited as me now, so wish me luck...

The emla cream I got was 2.5% lidocaine and 2.5% prilocaine. So I guess it adds up to 5%? I think stronger stuff you need a prescription from your GP, so maybe in Europe or north America it is easier to buy buy here in the UK, some pharmacies really restrict selling it and require a prescription to sell to you.

Well as you mentioned, the hardest thing is amassing all the required tools and equipment. I am basically ready but my thread I found is not stretchy or elastic at all, it is 100% polyester. I guess I may hit up a crafts store and see if they have that stretch magic, but not sure again here in the UK.

Anyways I will give an update once i find some thread, or just end up using this normal thread I got from impatience and just wanting to get this done with once and for all.

How tight should I tie this knot? Like tighter than pulling on and tying up your shoelaces? Should it hurt or feel uncomfortable??? I guess you'd be numb from emla cream, so maybe not notice til it wears off

Cheers mate thanks for all the help everyone. Looking to come out of very first self surgery a new man! Who needs medical school when you have Internet forums?
 
Hi UnknownUser,
I second your idea of rather doing more smaller ties - I was surprised by the amount of change, and if I had known this, would probably not have gone as deep or low as I did for the first one.
Some other advice:
1. Don't put two threads in - by the time the thread loosens, the hole is about 2-3mm in diameter, so you don't need to use a needle to do the second thread. (have a look at the flickr photos)
2. I didn't use any unaesthetic - its really not that sore at all (about as bad as squeezing a pimple out) - the thread I used felt slightly funny going through, because it was a twisted thread.
3. Remember that the skin is very stretchy in the direction you will be putting the needle through, so I placed two fingers from my other hand against the frenulum, and aimed between them, and went slowly.
4. Try to get alcohol swabs - worked very well to clean the penis before hand.
5. I tied mine as tight as I could using two hands opposing each other - slight pain for about the first hour or two, and then it seemed to fade away.

Hope all this helps,
please ask if you need more advice.
Good Luck !
 
doublelongdaddy;482311 said:
Link?
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http://www.flickr.com/groups/fren_tying/ is to the Flickr group page but I think you can only view it if you're invited there.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7279/7069313791_83f885760b_b.jpg here's a direct link to my before/after photo. Hopefully you can see it? If not then either me or JanBarrel will PM an invite to the Flickr group! :)

EDIT: the second link works fine it seems. If anyone has any tips on healing the phimotic ring and the tough skin tissue, that would be great to hear.
 
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Okay guys. Got a pea sized amount of cream on my ding don't, specifically the frenular flap on the gland (the attachment point closest to the gland head, vs. The other attachment point which would be to the shafts or foreskin). Seperate note, we really need a universal diagram or glossary, so we don't get confused by our creative descriptions.

Anyhow, must thank phallus for this thread existence. Then the diy guy who wrote the tutorial online with pics at oicazen, then the other dude who has the pics with the 1 2 3 4 lines marked out was helpful too. But must also thank Jan for posting pics and as well mostly same problems as me, all of you given me the courage to go through with this and I must thank you all. Many years of bs in teen/adult years due to this pesky frenulum.

To all the others in the previous 8 pages of this thread, thanks also for you positive additions and feedback. Your successful results further guide me to do what I am about to do.

I am going oldschool with just normal thread and needle btw, so just to be an example of mcgyver tools and nothing fishy, stretchy, bouncy, elastic or special in any regard.

Ok. My first tie, here goes.... Wish me luck!!!!!!!

First tie, as high up as possible, as shallow as possible. The idea is just to detach the anchor point, not remove tons of skin material. Let's hope it's a good spot I poke through.....


5.....4.....3.....2.........
 
What. That's it????????

LOL. Ok needles through, cream works like a charm, felt like poking a needle through paper.

I just stretched it out super tight, and poked it through. Might have gone 1mm higher but oh well, it's still high enough.

I took pics too but excuse me while I Google how to tie a surgeons knot. Or double surgeon, etc....
 
:cool:Okay. That was an easy knot.... Now do you tie multiple knots after that? I am going to err on the side of caution and do so.

Will keep you guys informed of the progress, but it was so simple and easy, I almost want to do 2 more ties right now. If that shouldn't tell anyone how easy this has been, then I don't know what will. The feelings a few minutes after tightening knots, I won't lie guys, it IS sore, but nothing really new or unusual if you've torn or ripped micrograms already, trust me this is noway nohow nowhere near as painful. That tear rip sensation is a sharp twang! pain, hence the reference to banjo string. The soreness I feel is like the dull pain, post rip or tear. So if u can deal with that, man up and poke yourselves mates, that is, if you suffer from this problem.


Thanks guys!!!!!!
 
Did my first tie about 9 hours ago, woke up during the night to a dull sharp pain down there, but now it's less uncomfortable and I don't feel the pressure anymore. I did crank on the thread when tying, since my normal sewing thread has no elasticity whatsoever at all. I would imagine circulation is being cut off, and causing less feeling and pain.

I think my tie is probably one of the shallower I've seen, when comparing to others and their procedures or examples, so I am hoping it will cut through quite quickly, and healing just the same.

I seriously wanted to just do this once, deep as I can and be done with it, but I think small shallow ties are the way to go for best cosmetic effect, though with my anatomy it looks like I will still have a thick "turtleneck" sweater for my glans to keep warm. Just hopefully that V, that breve below is finally less attached. I have no idea how I will remove all the extra material after, but I'm hoping it will absorb back into itself as much as it can. But no sense fretting about this now, for the years it has bothered me, I am gonna take this one day at a time.

I have over 30 photos of my procedure from before tying, showing my micrograms and why I finally had to do this, showing my ultra thick and protruding frenulum, the tight cord from glans to view I am working on with the first tie, and then I also have what Exiled15 does down below, multiple problem areas, but detaching the glans is priority 1 and a gauge to see how much is released or gained from once cut through.

Exiled15, don't think it's weird mate, because it just goes to show how long that frenulum corded material is under neath the skin. It's not just a small connecting piece up above, it can literally run down your shafts like a vein, almost all the way down to your ballsack. I have not ripped there myself, but enough tightness has been plaguing that area and I have physical visible stretch line marks, just as you do. If you do super small shallow ties down there, as the length of the area is quite long, I would tie at both ends where the skin is raised up like a skinvein, and then in the middle of it, after your lengthwise tear heals. That will in effect be like 3 small horizontal slices through your long cord, should sever the tightness and give you relief.

I will let you all know how things go, if interested I can post pics, though some are blurry, u can still see what was done and where.

Cheers!
 
Okay so knowing I need to do multiple ties still and being impatient already, I have opted to do two more ties right now, got the emla cream on my ding dong again, but lower, like where Exiled15 is tear, and then one more tie below my microtear area on the frenulum band, but above the lowest point being the origin of the lowest part on the shafts where extra skin sticks up as a slight ridge like a raised vein, mainly pulled from the skin being so taut. Hoping I got the first tie at Janbarrel location, high above, I'm about to do the one furthest below, so I am basically hoping to sever both ends attachment points. Then I still have in between to deal with, and something tells me since my first tie was so shallow to the surface, it's a very superficial tie that won't cut much meat, but I got lots extra skin, took a pic with it stretched out underneath the glans, but looks like no veins through the light at least. Ok emla almost stopped burning, so it must be getting numb now. They say only 5-10 minutes for down there, vs an hour on other areas of the body. I got two needles prepared this time, with the same black normal sewing thread. Hope they'll all cut through together and healing together, shortening my recovery time vs doing the three ties one by one and waiting to heal in between. As I mentioned, I think the glans may still need extra work to completely detach but I'm hoping these lower ties may loosen up some slack some. And then as long as it doesn't tear during sex, then I am good to go, and can play more dig plastic surgeon just for cosmetic reason after the physical problem has been solved. Probably won't take pics of the processes again, as it's two ties this to.even around, but I will try to take a picture when. I'm done of all three so you can see where I targeted location wise. Hope this thread can help others, I'm not done nor do I have completed results to share, but the do it yourself procedure is easy enough.

Alright comfortably numb now so here goes nothing....... 5......4....3......2....1..... X 2.
 
UnknownUser420;482632 said:
if interested I can post pics, though some are blurry, u can still see what was done and where.

Cheers!
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Yes, very interested. I will pony up some pictures too.
 
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