woah! am I getting exited!?!
This sounds great... whats the date of your first measurement? Will there be any picture proof??
This sounds great... whats the date of your first measurement? Will there be any picture proof??
Androgens cause epiphyseal plates to lengthen, not fuse. It is estrogen that fuses growth plates, not androgens. There are studies that prove this. This is why females are shorter than males. Females also get their growth spurt earlier than males because adrenal androgens (DHEA, Androstenedione, etc.) are produced a couple years earlier in females than they are in males. Aromatase inhibitors+testosterone injections were shown to increase male final height by 1-5 inches when administered approximately three years prior to adult height. I would say give DHT gel a try if you are inclined to try it.gimmegirth said:Well done man, that's great.
I'm so exited about this stuff and would jump right in... however, i'm still growing at 20... very slowly but surely and too much testosterone can fuse growth plates early, DHT is also very powerful and you've mentioned you've been more aggressive, I didn't think it would get into the free blood stream that easily. I'm not sure I want to use this until I've stopped growing... aarrghh, it's damn frustrating, I just hope the gel's still available when I stop.
Thanks Frontierxe, this issue really needed covering and you've covered it real well so far. Congrats on the brillian gains (lucky sodrofl )
goldmember said:Androgens cause epiphyseal plates to lengthen, not fuse. It is estrogen that fuses growth plates, not androgens. There are studies that prove this. This is why females are shorter than males. Females also get their growth spurt earlier than males because adrenal androgens (DHEA, Androstenedione, etc.) are produced a couple years earlier in females than they are in males. Aromatase inhibitors+testosterone injections were shown to increase male final height by 1-5 inches when administered approximately three years prior to adult height. I would say give DHT gel a try if you are inclined to try it.
Frontier, nice job. Keep us updated, I'm interested!
frontierxe said:Haha! I was hoping to beat everyone with the stats before someone would ask for them...
* As I have said several times, this is for information purposes only, your results may very from mine so don't hold me to your experience and results*
The measured results are a bit confusing, but does answer a few questions about what the wife is experiencing and what I am seeing visually. I really can't explain the results at this time.
History (27 day period):
*) On DHT gel for 27 days straight. At most times, three small dots used and massaged in. One dot for the entire head, one dot for the front of the shaft and one dot for the back of the shaft.
*) Sometimes gel was put on while in the stretcher and only on exposed penile skin other times all areas of the penile skin if stretcher was not going to be used.
*) I used Andro-G gel prior to DHT gel for a week and a half. Measurements were taken prior to Andro-G.
*) Used stretcher about 3 hours a day approximately 3 times a week.
*) A 5 day stretch without stretching, but gel was applied.
*) Maintenance jelqing was used as often as I could get away with it.
*) Measurements were taken twice in a one day period to ensure accurate stats.
Length Gain:
First is length, I have gained just short of a 1/4 of an inch. This explains the deep throat issues my wife was experiencing and her comments during sex. Visually my stretch marks are much wider and overall length is hard for me to judge, but it is very clear on the tape. Now if this rate stays, my goal of 1 inch in 6 months would be overshot by 1/2 of an inch.
My conclusion though is that I do not believe these results will stay month after month but this is a good sign.
Girth Gain:
Now this is where it get's interesting and where I visually see the gain but can't explain the uneven growth.
I measure the following: circumference, diameter, and radius. First is the radius, no uneven growth between the two radius sides. This I was worried about since I have to slant the stretcher sometimes when I wear my sweats. The diameter increased by 1/8 of an inch for the length of the shaft and head but minus the base. The base diameter grew 1/4 of an inch. This explains also the deep throat issues my wife was experiencing. Circumference grew 3/8 of an inch for the base, 1/4 for the head and 1/8 for the shaft.
Conclusions:
My conclusions so far are that this stuff does help, no question. Is it worth the money, again, I state yes. I can not explain the uneven growth of my shaft compared to my head or base. The stretcher should force a more even growth. The head also confuses me, this might be with the amount of DHT I apply. For the base, it might be with how I apply it as well since it appears I go over that area when I message it in more frequent then the shaft. The wife is very pleased but frustrated. She has noticed the girth and length and does climax much faster now. She is frustrated with the blow jobs. She tried again the other day without success. My mood is still upbeat and has started to be less aggressive. I will measure again in a month.
I hope this helps others... If you have any questions, please let me know...
EVO said:wow. your gains have been awesome!! nearly half inch of girth at the base is awesome!! couple of questions...
1) how often was your jelqing?
2) approx how much of this stuff did you apply (like 1 ml or more?)
3) did you apply it once daily?
4) also, how long have you been actively Penis Enlargementing? and what have your previous gains been like?
thanks alot. will be ordering mine shortly rofl