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To jump on a subject about DHT Gel that Supra and others have brought forth. What about this below? It's a hard read, but informative...

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Background: Percutaneous administration of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) has been successful in promoting phallic growth in infants and children with 5-reductase deficiency raised as males. We investigated whether percutaneous administration of DHT is similarly effective in patients with micropenis due to alternative diagnoses. Methods: Six patients (age range 1.9-8.3 years) with micropenis of variable etiology were studied prospectively. 2.5% DHT gel was applied to the phallus once daily at a dose of 0.15-0.33 mg/kg body weight. Serum DHT concentrations were measured at 0, 2, 4, 8, 12 and 24 h following application of DHT gel. Results: Peak DHT concentrations were attained within 2-8 h after application of the gel and subsequently remained within the normal adult range in all but 1 patient, who had received the lowest dose of 0.15 mg/kg. An increase in phallic growth, ranging from 0.5-2.0 cm, was achieved after 3-4 months of treatment in all patients whose DHT concentrations were maintained within adult range. Conclusion: Percutaneous administration of DHT in a dose of 0.2-0.3 mg/kg once daily for a period of 3-4 months may be useful in the management of patients with testosterone biosynthetic defects, who have sufficient masculinization to warrant male sex assignment, or in patients with micropenis prior to reconstructive surgery.

Copyright © 2002 S. Karger AG, Basel
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So to prevent my kids from having to do what I am doing for length and girth, should I get some of this and start them on it?
 
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Yes.

per·cu·ta·ne·ous (pûr'kyū-tā'nē-əs)
adj. Medicine.
Passed, done, or effected through the skin.

percutaneously per'cu·ta'ne·ous·ly adv.
 
EVO said:
well i did a search and the only english place i could find to sell it is this place
http://www.secure-sales.org.uk/clinic/testosterone-gel.shtml
£100 for 2 tubes, youve gotta be joking. almost the same as chaging £50 for 4 viagra tablets!! the price is as if they have thrown down random numbers onto the page. anyone know a better site?
p.s. i searched for andractim
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Don't buy that! You want to find DHT gel, not testosterone gel. There is another name for it...andractrim or something?
 
ye this is andractim, but for some reason its got in big letters testosterone gel. dude i wouldnt buy it at that price anyway!
 
The tubes have 80g in each and I apply 1.25g or 2.5g per session so it lasts for ages.

Also contains a free PSA test kit. Relaible delivery small enough to be posted through letter box.

The guy is helpful in e-mail too. Of course I did not tell him what I am using it for :)
 
Well I just ordered the two tubes with test. Should be here in 12 days.

I am going to do 3 weeks on and 2 weeks off and have my test checked. I also ordered the andro-d gel, and the rop. This will be interesting... My goal is to focus on Penis Enlargement, including my new vacextender, for 6 months and gain just one inch if at all possible. Seems to be a hard goal based on what everone else is taking...

I am currently at 7(bone pressed)x5.75 (at base) and want to push for 8x6.75 if at all possible.

I am also on a diet and exercising... so I am going to make a 6 month life changing experience. Well, I am already down 35 pounds, just need another 15 to be in my ideal weight range.
 
bluenun said:
The tubes have 80g in each and I apply 1.25g or 2.5g per session so it lasts for ages.

Also contains a free PSA test kit. Relaible delivery small enough to be posted through letter box.

The guy is helpful in e-mail too. Of course I did not tell him what I am using it for :)
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hey bluenun have you noticed anything on this stuff? how long have you been on it? i would like to get some (preferably from a cheaper source) have you gained off it? and also are your erections any better? cheers
 
Although DHT holds promise for Penis Enlargement... you have to put the study above into perspective. It was done on very young boys. We all know that growth factors affect pre-pubescent children very differently than with adults. Once a boy passes puberty, most of the growth effects are very much diminished. That said, unless you are pre-disposed to BPH and/or androgenic alopecia give it a shot.
 
sikdogg said:
Although DHT holds promise for Penis Enlargement... you have to put the study above into perspective. It was done on very young boys. We all know that growth factors affect pre-pubescent children very differently than with adults. Once a boy passes puberty, most of the growth effects are very much diminished. That said, unless you are pre-disposed to BPH and/or androgenic alopecia give it a shot.
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According to the studies I've read, androgen receptors in the penis are pretty much the same after puberty.
 
I found another study, trying to find it again, that they had a 50 male study with DHT and placebo. 8 out of the 50 was given the placebo, the remaining 42 received DHT Gel and a few other big word item mixture. After 6 months, the males reported bigger erections, painful erections, larger penis, etc. When they surveyed the 42 male partners, the partners stated they want their males to continue the study. Said the increase in sex drive, penis size, etc was worth them staying on it. The next 6 months of the study, no GEL or special mixture - just placebo. The 42 reported no reduction in penis size but sex drive did drop off.

If I find it again, I'll post it up.

I am still going down this road and will continue to report my findings... Oh, I am 35 years old and I fit right into the range of the men for the above study.
 
spinner2 said:
According to the studies I've read, androgen receptors in the penis are pretty much the same after puberty.
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I question this only because if this was the case, bodybuilders who take massive amounts of androgens should have dicks that hang down to their ankles.

I've been on steroid cycles where i was taking over 1,000mg of test per week (plus other hormones). Consider that replacement dose of testosterone on hypogonadal men is only in the 100mg per week range. At a dose of 1gr per week, circulating test and DHT is way way above normal baselines for any age group. While on-cycle, i never noticed any growth bursts while Penis Enlargement'ing.

I believe it was Goldmember that mentioned a study where PGE1 was able to upgregulate androgen receptors in the penis. That's definitely promising and would be recommended with DHT.
 
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frontierxe to answer your original question:
frontierxe said:
So to prevent my kids from having to do what I am doing for length and girth, should I get some of this and start them on it?
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By you saying,"having to do what I am doing for length and girth.", you mean doing P.E. for yourself.
I would say Yes to P.E. and No on the T-Gel method.
I teach my kids mental health, well as physical health.
I say have their testosterone levels check, have 'em wear a RoP(Ball-Zinger) for awhile and retested for any improvements.
http://penis-enlargement-manual.thundersplace.org/tom-hubbard/2002/libido-sperm-production-ball-zinger.html

For myself, I rather have my body create the hormones instead of enforcing them on me. Our body is a huge chemical factory in progress

For me, along with my best friend, at the time of puberty we grew up as late bloomers. His parents could afford hormone treatment and my parents couldn't. He went threw treatment and sure his penis grew normally from it. He's also went bald , and has more hair than a grizzley bear all over his body. Meanwhile, I'm still smooth skinned and a full head of hair and a penis that finally grew up to adulthood through Penis Enlargement.

Sometimes we don't want to disrupt the system and cause havoc, the system may be on a different time-schedule is all.
(in the breath ) ...and sometimes the chemical factory is imbalanced and needs a slight kick-start to start producing.

Ulitimely do your research and make a well-educated decision based on truth(s).
 
Don't do anything to mess around with kids hormones, not unless the doc recommends it, just let nature take it's course (you don't want growth plates fusing early etc.) By the time they are in puberty their test levels should be raging anyway. Just make sure they get proper nurition and the right vitimins and minerals, espiecially zinc.
I've often wondered whether I'd encourage my children to P.E. (not a father...future reference). I believe there would be a vast scope for enlargement through puberty with a little stretching/jelqing. You'd have to be careful how you encouraged it though... people may few it as weird.

Keep this thread ticking guys... there could be real hope for this stuff.
 
sikdogg said:
I believe it was Goldmember that mentioned a study where PGE1 was able to upgregulate androgen receptors in the penis. That's definitely promising and would be recommended with DHT.
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I'm not surprised by this at all. Magnumforce gave so many hints about how important PGE-1 is for massive gains.

As for DHT, I remember girthius making gains on that alone. I haven't read of anyone else who tried it.
 
I just got back from a business trip and there it is... :) My two tubes... Starting Monday I will be on it. These are pretty good size tubes...

I have been on the andro-d gel for week and a half. With the new stretcher and applying it onto the shaft while in the stretcher for 3 hours then putting conditioning cream on after the stretch workout, I am seeing some nice things...

My stretch marks are getting bigger, my head is getting bigger... I have rested for two days and my flaccid is bigger... My balls hang lower.

Being away from the wife and doing the exercises in the hotel for a week and a half, the wife noticed last night that either I was really horny or that I was a bit bigger than she remembered... :) So far so good.

The Andro-D makes you a bit more aggressive and it seems to make my work outs great in the gym and in my stretch workout.
 
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Looks like the DHT cream cost me $212 including shipping with the current exchange rate, but these are large tubes, toothpaste size. The Andro-D cost me $45 shipped.

I'd say I have spend around 500 bucks total for my new attempt to gain an inch in 6 months. To me, it's well worth it...
 
I'll be very curious to hear your experiences with this. From what I remember Girthius gained about 1/2" in both directions using DHT gel.
 
spinner2 said:
I'll be very curious to hear your experiences with this. From what I remember Girthius gained about 1/2" in both directions using DHT gel.
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hey spinner, i remember reading that too. any idea on the time frame?
 
I think it would depend on a lot of factors that scientists have no clue about. Maybe he'll plateau soon if there's a genetic potential that is reached. Maybe he'll gain slowly but indefinitely if there's not.
 
frontierxe said:
I'd say I have spend around 500 bucks total for my new attempt to gain an inch in 6 months. To me, it's well worth it...
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Hell yes!

A few Q's frontier...

How often will you be measuring?
Are you using a Penis Enlargement programme with the DHT?
Whats your age and do you know if your test. levels are normal, high, low?
How long have you been Penis Enlargementing and what would you expect to gain in 6months of natural Penis Enlargement?
...sounds weird, but... are you bald?!? (DHT prominence)
 
Ok, I just started with the DHT gel today...

My routine is 3 to 4 hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with about 200 jelqs, while in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] I put the andro-D gel on, well now I switched to the DHT gel. This stuff is as thick as vasoline but with the two dabs of it, it does absorb quickly into the shaft. I lube all aspects of the visible shaft while it's in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

My Test is in the norm range and I have a full set of hair, usually I have the barber thin it cause it's so thick.

My goal is to gain 1 inch in both length and girth within a 6 month window. We shall see...

I am changing my mind on how to cycle it and my routine... Consult my previous post above in this thread where I talk about my size and my goals...

I will be on this stuff for two weeks with one week off, that is how I am going to cycle it.

My goal is to do the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] four times a week with plenty of rest in between with normal jelq maintenance...

My age is 35... I will measure monthly...
 
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frontierxe - what is your reason for cycling the DHT? im unsure if it has any negative affects on any other tissues since the gel doesnt penetrate that far (hence why you cant use it for body building), so i do wonder about the prostate. but other than that?

andro -D gel
Ingredients: SD Alcohol, Water, Pregnenolone, Sodium Acrylate /Sodium Acryloyldimethyl Taurate, Isohexadecane, Polysorbate 80, DHEA, Phenoxyethanol, Chrysin, Tribulus Terrestris Extract.

from what i can see its basically a DHEA gel, the DHT should be better.
 
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I have read that as well but am just a bit worried sometimes... We'll see after 2 weeks but I am liking what I am feeling...


Ok, quick status report.... My morning wood is painful... It's like when I was 15... My visual appearance seems more swollen.

My mood is awesome! More easy going and more positive.

Can't wait to see what a week on this stuff does...
 
frontierxe said:
I have read that as well but am just a bit worried sometimes... We'll see after 2 weeks but I am liking what I am feeling...


Ok, quick status report.... My morning wood is painful... It's like when I was 15... My visual appearance seems more swollen.

My mood is awesome! More easy going and more positive.

Can't wait to see what a week on this stuff does...
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any updates?
 
EVO said:
any updates?
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Got back from another business trip from the east coast, damn if it was't warmer than I expected. Anyways, here are updates...

I woke up around 2am this morning with a painful erection. I woke the wife up for some fun and she told me to get away from her with that club. I am REALLY liking these erections.

It's hanging even more and is a bit thicker in flacid size... No idea about erect size yet as I am waiting to measure. The stretching is getting even easier and man the stretch marks are getting even more pronounced. I know I have grown. I can tell by how the wife is taking it easy around it. My vains are showing even more now...

For the next week, I am going to be unable to stretch but will be on DHT for good for as long as I don't see any bad affects. So far so good...

Right now, my mood is still great and I feel very confident and focused on my goal of 1 inch in 6 months. I am sleeping better minus waking up to a bit of pain in the erection department. I might try a cialis pill tonight just for kicks and see what happens... Wonder if I can stretch an erection for two hours... Hmmmm....

If you have been thinking about it, for the amount of money you would spend - I am pleased as hell. This stuff is going to last me 6 months if not longer. It's worth it to me for the erections... I have no idea if anyone else would get these results, but as it was stated above - there are studies that have shown it to be helpful. I am all about the helpful part.

Got anymore questions, just ask away....
 
This stuff sounds almost too good to be true; congrats on finding a possible great Penis Enlargement supplement...

Anyone have any science behind how this stuff works? Class, anyone?
 
Yeah, the androgen receptors in the penis stay open after puberty according to the studies I've seen. This makes hormonal growth possible after puberty.
 
Today completes my 5-day of non-exercise do to a family trip that did not allow me anytime or availability of privacy to do any type of Penis Enlargement. However, I kept applying the DHT gel thoughout the trip.

Impressions:

My painful erections have gone away. - My analysis is that it is because I did not work my penis while still being on the gel. I am starting my exercise back on Tuesday. :)

The wife has noticed but hasn't figured it out yet. The wife, god I love this woman, tried to give me two blow jobs while I was in the shower during the trip since sex was out of the question. She use to be able to deep throat me - she tried two days in a row and each time was frustrated since she wasn't able to. She complained of girth and length and about vomitted on my shaft the second attempt. She had the will, but her throat wasn't having it. She got frustrated and blamed it on a possible cold but kept saying that it sucked and liked to deep throat me. I am not sure how to read this. She seemed worried that if she can't deep throat me, I'll go elsewhere. I just kept telling her that she just needs to do it more often... That put a smile on her face.

Sorry - there will be NO pictures. This is a shared computer that I allow my kids to get on. Let's just say, no pictures will occur but I do use a window washer program to ensure no traces exist and will continue to document MY experience. Your experience may be different so take that into account. I WILL NOT promise my results to anyone. Just educating others on what I am experiencing.

I will measure next Friday. Visually I see girth gains, but not in length. I am taking the word of my wife on the length growth.

Word to the wise, make sure you shower before you attempt intercourse or having oral sex done to you. This stuff is NOT for any type of woman contact. There are a lot of warnings to this not on the package itself but in my online research.

Side Effects:

I am very aggressive. To the point of about assaulting some a$$hole for yelling at an old lady for attempting to cut in line. He got the point when I suddenly appeared face to face with him and mentally thought which body part I was going to rip off his body to beat the rest of him with. It was a short conversation. When all said and done I felt disappointed we didn't go a very short round. It freaked the crowd out that was standing in line that is for sure. Not sure how this is going to get, worse or better over time.


I hope everyone finds this interesting and useful in making your own decisions... No regrets yet, no hair loss....
 
have you tried applying it to the glans? I wonder because I think there's less tissue to get through before the DHT gets to the chambers... It's also directly connected to the CS and may enter it easier than from through the skin.

Anyone have any info on how others have applied it (girthius?) and how it's applied to kids with micropenis??

Thanks for the updates Frontier... keep 'em coming, lookin' forward to the girth measurement.
 
I apply it directly to the shaft when I am in the stretcher (when it is stretched to hell) and when I am not planning to stretch then to head as well.
 
I think Im more excited about the measuring on fri. then you are :) ....Im really curious to see what kind of gains you made on this stuff- in a relatively short time frame.
 
Haha! I was hoping to beat everyone with the stats before someone would ask for them...

* As I have said several times, this is for information purposes only, your results may very from mine so don't hold me to your experience and results*

The measured results are a bit confusing, but does answer a few questions about what the wife is experiencing and what I am seeing visually. I really can't explain the results at this time.

History (27 day period):
*) On DHT gel for 27 days straight. At most times, three small dots used and massaged in. One dot for the entire head, one dot for the front of the shaft and one dot for the back of the shaft.
*) Sometimes gel was put on while in the stretcher and only on exposed penile skin other times all areas of the penile skin if stretcher was not going to be used.
*) I used Andro-G gel prior to DHT gel for a week and a half. Measurements were taken prior to Andro-G.
*) Used stretcher about 3 hours a day approximately 3 times a week.
*) A 5 day stretch without stretching, but gel was applied.
*) Maintenance jelqing was used as often as I could get away with it.
*) Measurements were taken twice in a one day period to ensure accurate stats.

Length Gain:
First is length, I have gained just short of a 1/4 of an inch. This explains the deep throat issues my wife was experiencing and her comments during sex. Visually my stretch marks are much wider and overall length is hard for me to judge, but it is very clear on the tape. Now if this rate stays, my goal of 1 inch in 6 months would be overshot by 1/2 of an inch.

My conclusion though is that I do not believe these results will stay month after month but this is a good sign.

Girth Gain:
Now this is where it get's interesting and where I visually see the gain but can't explain the uneven growth.

I measure the following: circumference, diameter, and radius. First is the radius, no uneven growth between the two radius sides. This I was worried about since I have to slant the stretcher sometimes when I wear my sweats. The diameter increased by 1/8 of an inch for the length of the shaft and head but minus the base. The base diameter grew 1/4 of an inch. This explains also the deep throat issues my wife was experiencing. Circumference grew 3/8 of an inch for the base, 1/4 for the head and 1/8 for the shaft.

Conclusions:
My conclusions so far are that this stuff does help, no question. Is it worth the money, again, I state yes. I can not explain the uneven growth of my shaft compared to my head or base. The stretcher should force a more even growth. The head also confuses me, this might be with the amount of DHT I apply. For the base, it might be with how I apply it as well since it appears I go over that area when I message it in more frequent then the shaft. The wife is very pleased but frustrated. She has noticed the girth and length and does climax much faster now. She is frustrated with the blow jobs. She tried again the other day without success. My mood is still upbeat and has started to be less aggressive. I will measure again in a month.

I hope this helps others... If you have any questions, please let me know...
 
Great progress report. Keep us updated. I ordered 2 tubes yesterday and will post my experience, too. Keep up the good work.
 
Well done man, that's great.
I'm so exited about this stuff and would jump right in... however, i'm still growing at 20... very slowly but surely and too much testosterone can fuse growth plates early, DHT is also very powerful and you've mentioned you've been more aggressive, I didn't think it would get into the free blood stream that easily. I'm not sure I want to use this until I've stopped growing... aarrghh, it's damn frustrating, I just hope the gel's still available when I stop.

Thanks Frontierxe, this issue really needed covering and you've covered it real well so far. Congrats on the brillian gains (lucky sodrofl )
 
Thanks guys for the A-DA-BOY. I wish you all the best in your endeavors.
I will be keeping this thread updated. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], it's founder, and it's members are why we have been successful. I say we because others have already gone down this path with success and with one guy leaving to do something with a pharm company (thanks to his rats) - I'd say it's heading in the right direction. (consult other threads on this subject).

rhgunner - definitely keep us posted on how it goes. The trials that I have read about and posted one at the start of this thread does not give us much detail to go from so your input is invaluable to how it affects you.
 
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