This makes a lot of sense. I call it, "Listening to your body,"--in this case your penis. Everything DLD has written confirms this experience. But we each have to find our own way and experience it for ourselves. This is kind of what I'm doing as well. I've been super busy lately so I do my stretches only when my dick makes a clear call to me. There are days when I can bone press stretch it beyond 8.5" to almost 8.75" and once in a rare while to just under 9". These moments are GREAT. They tell me that I'm not that far from a bona fide 9" stretched flaccid.

There are other days when my penis is tense and rigid. It's telling me that no way am I going to stretch it beyond that bottom line 8.5" marker. So forget it.

Great post.

:p
 
goinfor11x7;280003 said:
This makes a lot of sense. I call it, "Listening to your body,"--in this case your penis. Everything DLD has written confirms this experience. But we each have to find our own way and experience it for ourselves. This is kind of what I'm doing as well. I've been super busy lately so I do my stretches only when my dick makes a clear call to me. There are days when I can bone press stretch it beyond 8.5" to almost 8.75" and once in a rare while to just under 9". These moments are GREAT. They tell me that I'm not that far from a bona fide 9" stretched flaccid.

There are other days when my penis is tense and rigid. It's telling me that no way am I going to stretch it beyond that bottom line 8.5" marker. So forget it.

Great post.

:p

I've been doing Penis Enlargement for three years and still don't know if I'll ever find that "sweet spot" between rest and gains. It seems that very few people, if ever, do.
 
I just noticed this thread. Sounds like good sense to me. I dont think that much time needs to be spent with Penis Enlargement ... i.e hours and hours, days and days ... for me, and I think for many others it needs to be BRIEF and INTENSE with REST in order to see results.

Use HIT principles with my weight lifting and I see best results I have ever seen on my body and I also think its true with the penis .... exercise it very hard in quick sessions with good rest between them to heal and grow....I didnt exercise my cock like some here and used what a termed ''eggshell routines'' as they were scattered like broken egg shells when I used to workout.

So if you think about this proggressive stretching ... yes it makes great sense because if you will its like proggressive resistance in lifting weights, in eachtime you lift its heavier than it was before or if thats not changed than your more intense .. something like that and yes it works for the body to make muscle so to me it makes sense for the penis.
 
I agree that somtimes less is more. It seems for me training 4 or 5 times a week with 1 hour sessions of stretching and jelging is best. I also stretch after peeing with a 10 second pull. I am also gaining an 1/16 to an 1/8 of an inch per month. It seems to me the more you have sex or rub one off it seems to help in size by keeping the blood flowing. I have also taken a few days off or sometimes a week and still made gains. I have done bodybuilding and power lifting, and when you overtrain your more prone to injuries and your gains stop! To me this is the last body part that I would want to injure.
 
The central idea to this is to progressively stretch your penis to a longer length each and every day. It's not really focused on the intensity of the stretch, how long you hold a stretch, or how long you spend total time. The idea is to stretch longer each day, whether it takes 5 minutes or 20 minutes spread throughout the day. Intensity is actually counterproductive in regards to the penis because an individual can very easily cross the line of progress into injury very quickly without even realizing it. If you can keep things in perspective and work every day to make your penis longer with a balanced approach the progress will be there. The other key is to understand how your body is responding to the regimen. It's quite simple to understand and very easy to follow.
 
ell I have my own thoughts and ideas on the matter and plan on hopefully in the not too distant future experimenting with some ideas I have on Penis Enlargement.

Intensity for me mattters with regards to pe ... if you dont stretch intense than you cant be getting that tissue out to encourage it to grow ... for me I know my fine line and when to and not cross it ... once this is found your halfway to the finish line.

So yea .. stretch eachday progressively further and further than you did the day before and make it intense and brief ... not like loads and loads of time. If its not intense and not 110% effort than yea invest more time but if its very intense in that period of time with allot of force than you dont need many sessions but as you say KNOW your line and dont cross it.

I also talk from experience here with regards to all my massive girth gains ... I used the same principles mate albeit instead of getting longer eachtime I went for thickness eachtime.

Looking back now I didnt need to do those sessions so long either i.e. 20-45 mins non stop clamping ... it worked, but I reckon it would have done more in 10-15 mins done more intense than the longer sessions I did.

Its like HIT in the gym, many cant do it because they cant train in good form strictly and push themselves through muscle failure and keep striving to do this session after session ... it works, for me anyways but not for everyone as they cannot use that method and others work ofcourse just like my method of girth isnt the gospel to getting a thicker cock but it works damn well and I would bet money on it working very well for length.
 
I really don't agree with the idea that 110% effort is necessary. Being that the amount of tension needed to grow more penis, which is nearly 100% soft tissue, is not 1000lbs of force then why would you treat it as a maximum effort tug-o-war? The whole point of this method, or theory, is that you only need a SMALL amount of tension to change the size and shape of the tissues in the penis.

As for the idea of "training to failure" in regards to bodybuilding, I'm glad that it's working for you. Regardless of what your progress has been so far I can guarantee you that at some point you will burn out. Your CNS can not and will not sustain that level of activity because as it goes your body will adapt to the system and will ultimately require more training volume, different movements, varied sets and rep schemes, etc etc. HIIT training has been discusses ad infinitum among the Strength and Conditioning coaches the world over, and there is very little value placed upon the theories or principles of HIIT.

Another note on this is that "failure" can either be mechanical, nervous system related, stress from life, not eating enough calories, training too frequently etc etc. Genuine muscle failure is CNS governed, and this is a nearly impossible threshold to reach because the muscles can no longer recruit the larger motor units to move the weights and the smaller units, slow twitch fibers, are not strong enough to move the load. This is the primary reason that a weight starts to feel "heavy" during a set because MUs are falling off due to fatigue. This is a good thing, but you're missing out on a whole lot of muscle growth and strength gains by training to this point because the Large fast twitch fibers have the greatest potential for growth. This means that if you take a heavy load and move it for 1-3 reps with good speed for multiple sets, usually between 6-10 sets, that you will see fantastic size gains as well as strength gains without ever coming close to failure.

If anyone is interested try this with a Bench Press with 80-95% of your maximum weight on the bar and do sets of 2-3, while moving the bar with as much speed as possible (note: this does not mean dropping the bar to your chest, the negative is always controlled but the reverse of the movement is to move the bar with great technique as quickly as possible), and perform this for 8-10 sets. I can assure you that you will feel worked, and more than likely spent using such a heavy load for a high number of sets.
 
Hey millionman,

This thread has got me doing some serious thinking. I been sitting at the same BPenis EnlargementL of 6.75in for the last 18 months and I'm willing to give this idea of progressive stretching a serious try. Just wanted to confirm if I got the details correct. On the days where I feel tight at the base, I should stretch with a bit more intensity and more frequently to get it fast Max FSL and on days where I feel loose and pliable, I should stretch less frequently and with less intensity? Am I correct?? Thanks
 
millionman;281259 said:
I really don't agree with the idea that 110% effort is necessary. Being that the amount of tension needed to grow more penis, which is nearly 100% soft tissue, is not 1000lbs of force then why would you treat it as a maximum effort tug-o-war? The whole point of this method, or theory, is that you only need a SMALL amount of tension to change the size and shape of the tissues in the penis.

As for the idea of "training to failure" in regards to bodybuilding, I'm glad that it's working for you. Regardless of what your progress has been so far I can guarantee you that at some point you will burn out. Your CNS can not and will not sustain that level of activity because as it goes your body will adapt to the system and will ultimately require more training volume, different movements, varied sets and rep schemes, etc etc. HIIT training has been discusses ad infinitum among the Strength and Conditioning coaches the world over, and there is very little value placed upon the theories or principles of HIIT.

Another note on this is that "failure" can either be mechanical, nervous system related, stress from life, not eating enough calories, training too frequently etc etc. Genuine muscle failure is CNS governed, and this is a nearly impossible threshold to reach because the muscles can no longer recruit the larger motor units to move the weights and the smaller units, slow twitch fibers, are not strong enough to move the load. This is the primary reason that a weight starts to feel "heavy" during a set because MUs are falling off due to fatigue. This is a good thing, but you're missing out on a whole lot of muscle growth and strength gains by training to this point because the Large fast twitch fibers have the greatest potential for growth. This means that if you take a heavy load and move it for 1-3 reps with good speed for multiple sets, usually between 6-10 sets, that you will see fantastic size gains as well as strength gains without ever coming close to failure.

If anyone is interested try this with a Bench Press with 80-95% of your maximum weight on the bar and do sets of 2-3, while moving the bar with as much speed as possible (note: this does not mean dropping the bar to your chest, the negative is always controlled but the reverse of the movement is to move the bar with great technique as quickly as possible), and perform this for 8-10 sets. I can assure you that you will feel worked, and more than likely spent using such a heavy load for a high number of sets.


No worries mate. You have your opinion and I have myn. What works for me wont work for everyone else and vice versa. My penis enlargement has been nothing short or incredible and my penis thickness is well known ... tried and tested but it might not work on everyone.

The HIT .. again it works great for me. I use various principles in my routine, which I should have stated and my apologies .. I dont just use HIT principles.

I have found IN MY EXPenis EnlargementRIENCE that HIT and related principles work exceptional for strength and size gains.

My strength is equal to someone over 200lbs ... I weigh 170lbs and play rugby on the right wing and soon will go into Center and handle guys in the 200lb region with ease ... many comment on how do I manage to lift them and bring them down with such power and strength for my size .. even though I aint small ... I tell them about the HIT principles I use.

Like I have said, what works for one wont work for another.

On the CNS issue, YES for sure one will burn out and crash but thats why one needs to rest reguler when they train very intense which is what I do.

With more intensity comes more rest and more strength and size gains [I have found and continue to see!] if one trains with less intensity they can manage to train more freq'.

I'm no qualified coach and do not wish to be one but what I know is through tried and tested methods I myself have used and it must work well as like I have said guys come to me wanting advice for their strength and they are allot larger than me ... even been accused of being on banned substances because of my strength.

Sorry for hijacking this also with fitness .. apologies, but finally much has to do with the mental game here too ... both penile and other bodily exercise ... overcome the mind and the body can do many things one thinks impossible ... I have found this time and time again.

Peace and take care
 
Thanks Millionman. Please keep us posted on your progress with this method as most guys on here including myself are spending hours and hours on day and would love to cut that time in half if not more and see good result. Keep up the good work!
 
Well, I've maxed out the total length I can stretch to using my vac-extender and am looking to get some longer rods, but can't seem to find any. If someone could help me find some 12" rods that would be awesome. Maybe DLD could send me the code for extra parts from the jes/vimax extender folks.
 
to yall saying you do hours of pe with no results, you doing something wrong. Form and intensity check on it. I be the 1st to tell you the more you do the quicker the gains.
 
Ithiel, Although you might do well with LONG routines with a ton of intensity, I have not. I've been here for close to 4 years, and you think that by "doing more" and "going harder" that I would have already reached somewhere in the neighborhood of 10". I've been over this more than once with you, now stay the hell out of this thread.
 
As of this moment I measure at 8.5" FSL. I've actually been doing less over the last 2 weeks and have added about another 1/8 of an inch in FSL. I now measure at over 8" EL which was my original goal size. This for me is extremely satisfying and I'm more than a little bit happy about the progress that I've made over the last 6 months. I've broken through a plateau of more than 2 years and have continued to gain by learning how to read my body and the amount of stress I need to grow. I actually feel that I'm a relatively easy gainer, but I spent so much time thinking I need to make things more difficult and that I had to find new ways to "stress" the target areas that I lost sight of how easy it can be to grow more penis. You can stretch as hard as you can and not grow, but you can also stretch just a little bit further each and every day and you WILL grow. This isn't rocket science and I wish it didn't take me nearly 4 years to reach this point but I've learned a ton along the way and I hope that I have helped some of the men here at MOS with the experiences I've had.
 
what the fuck is you crying about fam? You can come and say whatever you want about low intensity in my threads and how ever many times you want. You gotta be hatin on some shit I'm bringing?
 
Ithiel, while hardcore routines might work for some, it sets others back. Everyone's physiology is different. I think my physiological makeup is somewhat more like millionman's. I just do period stretches throughout the day and am feeling better than when I was hanging, surprisingly.
 
Ithiel, You've asked a question in this thread that I answered and then you come back and attempt to jack the thread. That's what I'm pissed about. You can do whatever it is that you want as far as routines go, but this thread is for those of us who have tried it the DLD, BIB, Redzulu, Supra, or whoever else has promoted a routine that THEY used to make gains here at MOS and haven't got much if anything to show for it. Do your thing homie, I'm not trying to stand in the way of your progress but you come into my thread and start disregarding what has been written and telling people that they're not working "hard enough" is totally unacceptable. I've been one of the hardest working men in Penis Enlargement for a long time and it got me my first inch in EL, but since then I gained less than half an inch. Now more than 2 years later I've gained close to another inch in length.

10inchadvantage, What you're noticing is your tissue is no longer traumatized after your brief session, so your body is not having to respond to an injury. Overall your penis should be healthier from Penis Enlargement not beat up and unusable. I've noticed recently that my CS is filling with blood more easily and it is definitely more consistently filled now. I think this particular method along with my regular chiropractic adjustments has made a huge difference in the quality and frequency of my erections.

Has anyone introduced jelqing into their program? I've been working it in 1 every week but I'm not quite sure if I need to add in some more time or not.
 
millionman;281837 said:
Ithiel, You've asked a question in this thread that I answered and then you come back and attempt to jack the thread. That's what I'm pissed about. You can do whatever it is that you want as far as routines go, but this thread is for those of us who have tried it the DLD, BIB, Redzulu, Supra, or whoever else has promoted a routine that THEY used to make gains here at MOS and haven't got much if anything to show for it. Do your thing homie, I'm not trying to stand in the way of your progress but you come into my thread and start disregarding what has been written and telling people that they're not working "hard enough" is totally unacceptable. I've been one of the hardest working men in Penis Enlargement for a long time and it got me my first inch in EL, but since then I gained less than half an inch. Now more than 2 years later I've gained close to another inch in length.

10inchadvantage, What you're noticing is your tissue is no longer traumatized after your brief session, so your body is not having to respond to an injury. Overall your penis should be healthier from Penis Enlargement not beat up and unusable. I've noticed recently that my CS is filling with blood more easily and it is definitely more consistently filled now. I think this particular method along with my regular chiropractic adjustments has made a huge difference in the quality and frequency of my erections.

Has anyone introduced jelqing into their program? I've been working it in 1 every week but I'm not quite sure if I need to add in some more time or not.

Yes, in fact my CS is almost "fully cured." It used to not inflate at all. Now it's pretty large but still can be improved. I need to go to a chiropractor or something. I've been looking into a back-stretching machine to stretch out my spine and cure the curvature in it (mid spine scoliosis). It hurts me throughout the day and feel that my life would be more pain free if it was CURED, not just treated for an amount of time.
 
10inchadvantage, If there's a chiropractor in your area that comes highly recommended then go and see if you can get treatment for your condition. Do you workout at all?
 
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