Heavy Duty Static Stretcher Questions

Hi moregains,I have a few questions for you.First,I am curious,1.does the tape to the glans have to be changed every set?2.Would the heaviest springs eventually be beneficial to use,even if for 30 minutes and then following with lower weights for the rest of the time to ride the fatigue?
3.What is the most amount of hours that the HDSS can be used to it's maximum potential each day?For instance would the more hours used mean faster gains?Any help would be awesome.Thank you.

Owned,

Haven't used the Medium and, unless its absolutely necessary, would rather not have to. I have only been consistent with the HDSS for a short amount of time; TRY IT!

moregains,

1. So are you saying that I could do 6lbs for one hour and THEN do 4lbs for as long as I want and that THOSE 4 lbs hours are as good as the 6 lbs hours for your math equation? 4lbs and I have a good relationship; I don't tire.
2. Can I JUST use the HDSS for ERECT GAINS and MAKE THEM or, as ownd is suggesting, do I need to supplement? Maybe you can't answer this because you used the BIB as well.
3. When you take a vacation of 6 months after gains, do you lose your erect gains? You made a comment earlier about not wanting to get too long so as not to hurt a woman: are you saying that you go back to the HDSS BECAUSE you lose the gains you make? I'm talking only about erect gains here.
4. I don't care about skin growth: will I see SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER ERECT gains if I HDSS straight down as opposed to doing between SO and SD?

PainsForGains;370031 said:

Owned,

4. I don't care about skin growth: will I see SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER ERECT gains if I HDSS straight down as opposed to doing between SO and SD?

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I thought that the HD didn't produce that hair up the shaft thing because it's pulling on the glans rather than the skin?

penisbuilder;369923 said:

moregains

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1. I dont change it unless I need to have a bathroom break.
2. That's how they told me to use them. Use them to create some stress and then back off and use lower to keep the stress going.
3. More hours always means faster gains (unless you're going so hard as to cause an injury). However you need to live your life too. I got caught up doing too much and got obsessed. I finally just made time for it every day and then forgot about it. The gains seem to come easier or faster for me this way: but I know it's a mental thing.

PainsForGains;370031 said:

moregains

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1. Six lbs can cause a blister if you go too long. If four lbs works for you then keep doing it and log in the hours. Four is enough to cause growth. BTW, growth causing weight doesn't have to hurt or cause an injury!
2. The HDSS can be used for erect gains: it's no different than any other stretching device in that regard. I like the Bib/SSHD combo but I also like the feeling of hanging.
3. I take long breaks because a half inch gain is more than you think it might be. Plus I like to use it for a while and let it "detox" and decondition. I haven't lost anything. After 6 months or so I decide whether to do more.
4. SD will probably yield faster gains but I've always worried about lengthening the suspensory lig. Afterall if it's longer and allows the penis to move outward why won't it also allow the penis to move back inward? When it's tight it doesn't allow movement either way, but loose I just don't like the sound of the possibilities. I know it takes more effort to gain via the tunica but I believe they're better gains.

Hey Moregains..
I hope we're not completely stealing your spare time with all the questions. Your doing a great job answering them - but you already know that.

I'm still suffering from getting the dome to stay on when applying it with the foreskin retracted. The vaseline trick didn't prevent it from pulling the foreskin up thus pulling the sleeve with it up the dome and when pulling hard on the dome, releasing the dome. How come only I suffer from the foreskin pulling back up? Logically thinking, I can't see how anyone could avoid this?

The other problem I'm having is loading the springs fully. I'm pretty muscular but I'm a having a hard time compressing the springs without having the bars look like they're about to bend and crack. Seems to me it would be easier if you could load the springs beforehand with some sort of a clip that you could instantly remove once you connected the bars with the dome?

John McCock;370280 said:

I'm still suffering from getting the dome to stay on when applying it with the foreskin retracted. The vaseline trick didn't prevent it from pulling the foreskin up thus pulling the sleeve with it up the dome and when pulling hard on the dome, releasing the dome. How come only I suffer from the foreskin pulling back up? Logically thinking, I can't see how anyone could avoid this?

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I don't think I understand what the problem is. Did you try using the glans tape to hold back your foreskin while applying the dome? Did you cut the sleeves in half or are you trying to apply a full sleeve? Are you taping the glans? Are you folding the sleeve onto the dome before application?

John McCock;370280 said:

The other problem I'm having is loading the springs fully. I'm pretty muscular but I'm a having a hard time compressing the springs without having the bars look like they're about to bend and crack. Seems to me it would be easier if you could load the springs beforehand with some sort of a clip that you could instantly remove once you connected the bars with the dome?

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I can't imagine any trouble compressing the springs. Do you have the springs between the round metal nut and the round metal tube? Also, if you're bending the bars you are applying too much tension too soon. Try relaxing into a stretch.

Moregains,
So you recommend to use the HDSS straight out ? what are your thoughts on straight up like against the belly?

Can you explain what you mean by burping the air out? This is what I do... I push my penis head to the top of the dome and cover the hole with fun-tak putty then I roll the silicone sleeve down along my shaft ... when I increase the tension and stretch out more the penis head moves away from the top of the dome .

And last question - where can I find replacement springs? Do I email SS or can I pick them up at an Ace or Home Depot?

I looked on the SS site and couldn't find videos showing proper application of the HDSS .. can you point me to where I can view these vids?

MoreGains123;370183 said:

1. Six lbs can cause a blister if you go too long. If four lbs works for you then keep doing it and log in the hours. Four is enough to cause growth. BTW, growth causing weight doesn't have to hurt or cause an injury!
2. The HDSS can be used for erect gains: it's no different than any other stretching device in that regard. I like the Bib/SSHD combo but I also like the feeling of hanging.
3. I take long breaks because a half inch gain is more than you think it might be. Plus I like to use it for a while and let it "detox" and decondition. I haven't lost anything. After 6 months or so I decide whether to do more.
4. SD will probably yield faster gains but I've always worried about lengthening the suspensory lig. Afterall if it's longer and allows the penis to move outward why won't it also allow the penis to move back inward? When it's tight it doesn't allow movement either way, but loose I just don't like the sound of the possibilities. I know it takes more effort to gain via the tunica but I believe they're better gains.

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moregains,

This bombardment of questions from everybody coming your way is probably uncomfortable, and I sympathize, but you MUST understand: there are NO before and after photos or videos anywhere of HDSS users, you're the only "successful" user I can find of the HDSS ANYWHERE on ANY FORUM, and even the Static Stretcher website, while having videos showing application of their product, have done a shoddy job of backing up their claims with evidence. And the videos have NO SOUND, which is very suspicious. And you've HUNG as WELL AS used the HDSS, so the effectiveness of using JUST the HDSS is not clearly documented even where you are concerned (and I am VERY happy, nevertheless, that you are so generous with your advice; I'm not attacking you at all). As Princess Leia said to Obi Wan kanobi: "You are our only hope".

1. To be clear: IF I log in, say 4 hours at 4 lbs, are those 4 lbs hours good enough to cause the "0.001th of an inch for every hour" ERECT LENGTH growth? If THIS IS THE CASE, then I could possibly leave it on when sleeping, because at 4 pounds I can go forever.
2. I don't understand what you mean by the "I've always worried about lengthening the suspensatory lig": you gained via between SD and SO, PLUS you use the Bib going either SD or BTC! You ARE fully lengthening the suspensatory lig!
3. Whenever you see someone with a huge penis but the penis doesn't go past their belly button, is that a sign that they are weight hangers?

PainsForGains;370346 said:

3. Whenever you see someone with a huge penis but the penis doesn't go past their belly button, is that a sign that they are weight hangers?

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Belly button placement has everything to do with torso anatomy, I don't think the belly button is any kind of good reference point unless it is specific to your gains. But, even in that case if your posture changes, if you gain or lose weight, etc. the belly button placement would change. Trust the ruler...well the ruler is me Trust a measuring device.

dibocarmona;370313 said:

So you recommend to use the HDSS straight out ? what are your thoughts on straight up like against the belly?

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I don't like it because I think the base presses against the base of the dorsal nerve and some veins I have right there. But if that doesn't bother you it's a great way to stretch the ligs with the base pressing right there against your penis' base.

dibocarmona;370313 said:

Can you explain what you mean by burping the air out? This is what I do... I push my penis head to the top of the dome and cover the hole with fun-tak putty then I roll the silicone sleeve down along my shaft ... when I increase the tension and stretch out more the penis head moves away from the top of the dome .

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Before I put on the base and rods, I grab the sleeved penis in one hand and hold the dome in the other hand (I keep a finger right at the plug). I then force the penis shaft into the dome. This causes the plug to "pop" and let out some air. Before I release my push, I re-seat the plug. I do this a couple of times to be sure I've got out as much air as possible.

dibocarmona;370313 said:

where can I find replacement springs? Do I email SS or can I pick them up at an Ace or Home Depot?

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Actually I think any springs will do as long as you know what the tension is. Even if you don't, you can tell when you're being pulled.

dibocarmona;370313 said:

I looked on the SS site and couldn't find videos showing proper application of the HDSS .. can you point me to where I can view these vids?

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The videos were there when I looked but it's been a long time. I also got a lot email help from them in my early days.

PainsForGains;370346 said:

moregains

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I think the reason they don't boast success that any device will work if you use it long enough. Their claim is that their stuff is comfortable enough to use and that's what attracted me to them. I have a lot of Penis Enlargement stuff that qualifies as torture.

PainsForGains;370346 said:

1. To be clear: IF I log in, say 4 hours at 4 lbs, are those 4 lbs hours good enough to cause the "0.001th of an inch for every hour" ERECT LENGTH growth? If THIS IS THE CASE, then I could possibly leave it on when sleeping, because at 4 pounds I can go forever.

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Four lbs is enough to do the job. There's enough evidence out there that even those noose devices at 3 lbs max can do the job. The problem is they hurt like a bitch.

PainsForGains;370346 said:

2. I don't understand what you mean by the "I've always worried about lengthening the suspensatory lig": you gained via between SD and SO, PLUS you use the Bib going either SD or BTC! You ARE fully lengthening the suspensatory lig!

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I don't hang SD or BTC anymore and haven't for a long time. I hang strictly SO, or as I prefer to say: SOL and SOR (left and right). I became concerned about lig stretch when I noticed, while banging this chick from behind that my base was moving around. I can't say it never happened before, but it looked like a new issue. I started to think: I stretch the ligs it changes the anchoring. If it will allow more to come out, why wouldn't it also allow it to press back in? I began to assume the suspensory lig's purpose was to provide a base for jamming the penis into wet pussy. I then decided I didn't want to learn first hand if this was a bad idea.

PainsForGains;370346 said:

3. Whenever you see someone with a huge penis but the penis doesn't go past their belly button, is that a sign that they are weight hangers?

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Could be, but DLD points out the belly button can be a bad gauge.

MoreGains123;370395 said:

I don't hang SD or BTC anymore and haven't for a long time. I hang strictly SO, or as I prefer to say: SOL and SOR (left and right). I became concerned about lig stretch when I noticed, while banging this chick from behind that my base was moving around. I can't say it never happened before, but it looked like a new issue. I started to think: I stretch the ligs it changes the anchoring. If it will allow more to come out, why wouldn't it also allow it to press back in? I began to assume the suspensory lig's purpose was to provide a base for jamming the penis into wet pussy. I then decided I didn't want to learn first hand if this was a bad idea.

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moregains,

I am 6.5" EL and 6" EG. I want to get to 9" BPenis EnlargementL and 7" EG; when I get a full hard on, THAT'S what I want to see, to feel. Based on your calculations, if I wear the device at 4 lbs for 2,000 hours, I'll get there. Great!

1. So is between SD and SO NOT a good idea (I don't want to have what might have happened with you to happen to me)? I see lots of �naked people movies� stars who have NO anchoring, and that's probably because their ligs don't work, but I've never seen a penis going back inside when watching these guys' movies.
2. Have you EVER heard of ANYONE complaining about their penis going back inside their body when erect, or is this an assumption of yours? BIGGER and all hangers, plus the guy at SS, has never brought this up as a consequence.
3. What, in your opinion then, is the ratio of hours xs growth for doing JUST SO?

PainsForGains;370398 said:

I am 6.5" EL and 6" EG. I want to get to 9" BPenis EnlargementL and 7" EG; when I get a full hard on, THAT'S what I want to see, to feel. Based on your calculations, if I wear the device at 4 lbs for 2,000 hours, I'll get there. Great!

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Personally I think that's too much dick for 90% of the girls you'll meet.

PainsForGains;370398 said:

1. So is between SD and SO NOT a good idea (I don't want to have what might have happened with you to happen to me)? I see lots of �naked people movies� stars who have NO anchoring, and that's probably because their ligs don't work, but I've never seen a penis going back inside when watching these guys' movies.

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It's not that it was going back inside the body as much as it allows it to move around a bit. Afterall if the suspensory lig has been made longer it therefore will allow more movement: forward, back and sideways. I'm not talking inches so I don't know that you'd necessarily see it on someone else.

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2. Have you EVER heard of ANYONE complaining about their penis going back inside their body when erect, or is this an assumption of yours? BIGGER and all hangers, plus the guy at SS, has never brought this up as a consequence.

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Never heard anyone talk about it. If you look at the anatomy it makes sense. Also, lig stretching is an early-gainer thing. You should be working on tunica stretching as your career progresses. It's commonly believed that lig gains can be exhausted pretty easily whereas tunica gains are "infinite".

PainsForGains;370398 said:

3. What, in your opinion then, is the ratio of hours xs growth for doing JUST SO?

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My experience with SO (L and R) is 0.001" per hour. The key is to not go overboard and create issues such as blistering, discoloration and injury. The gains will come: you have to be patient and diligent. The funny thing about pulling really hard is that when you count your down time for issues, you're no farther along than the guy at 4 lbs who had no down time. Sort of the Tortoise and Hare story I suppose.

i cant wait to get one of these when i have the cash. i will also try the ADS for a few hours a day. i just hope its comftorable and actually works for me

ownd;370416 said:

i cant wait to get one of these when i have the cash. i will also try the ADS for a few hours a day. i just hope its comftorable and actually works for me

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Anything will work if you are patient and consistent. Why not get on a manual stretching routine right now?

MoreGains123;370407 said:

Personally I think that's too much dick for 90% of the girls you'll meet.


It's not that it was going back inside the body as much as it allows it to move around a bit. Afterall if the suspensory lig has been made longer it therefore will allow more movement: forward, back and sideways. I'm not talking inches so I don't know that you'd necessarily see it on someone else.


Never heard anyone talk about it. If you look at the anatomy it makes sense. Also, lig stretching is an early-gainer thing. You should be working on tunica stretching as your career progresses. It's commonly believed that lig gains can be exhausted pretty easily whereas tunica gains are "infinite".


My experience with SO (L and R) is 0.001" per hour. The key is to not go overboard and create issues such as blistering, discoloration and injury. The gains will come: you have to be patient and diligent. The funny thing about pulling really hard is that when you count your down time for issues, you're no farther along than the guy at 4 lbs who had no down time. Sort of the Tortoise and Hare story I suppose.

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1. Yes, 9 x 7 is too much for about 90% of the women I will meet. I have many many reasons (some of which are financial) that are prompting me to want to get so big. I don't know what else to say about this.

2. Your expereince with SO (L and R) HAS to be only with the Bib Hanger, because the HDSS doesn't go L or R. AND you have said that tunica gains take longer than lig gains. Are you saying then that between SO and SD has a FASTER size to hours ratio than SO? Now I'm really confused.

3. If your dick is HUGE and the base moves around from side to side, if this is a real occurrence , then I can only assume that this happens with most Penis Enlargement (Pumping, Manual Stretching, Hanging), because most Penis Enlargement, including DLD's Newbie Routine, stretches out the suspensatory ligs. So be it, I guess.

4. Am I helping to avoid some of this "movable base" problem by HDSS stretching between SD and SO? Is the only way to avoid this to stretch SO? What if I add manual stretches (aren't I then still lengthening the suspensatory ligs and will have this 'moveable base' issue)?

GOD I wish I could talk to you or the guy at SS on the phone!

You can rotate the base 90 degrees to do L and R if you want. You just have to put your glans in the dome at 90 degrees too.

I don't have any experience with any angle being necessarily faster than another, but guys talk about lig stretching (BTC) producing faster gains than any other angle. They are exhaustable gains and are usually recommended in the beginning to wet your appetite for more. I don't like the skin stretching and inconvenience of BTC and I'm not in a hurry to gain.

I think as with any part of the body, speed of change matters most. Skin stretch marks are a result of fast skin growth. I imagine fast lig stretching to yield looser, weaker ligaments than slow steady lig stretching.

This should be the last post of mine on this subject. Or maybe not. I feel like it probably is. I have been stretching and "doing my part"; just want to have some clarification on some things, moregains123.

1. Tell me the specifics (as specific as you can get) on the negatives as you see them of using the HDSS ONLY SD. What are the positives?

2. If I start my HDSS journey doing just SD (6 to 4 lbs for many hours like before), and I make these easy gains (erect gains?), gains which are just more of my penis being exposed (and everyone seems to have negative opinions of these kinds of gains, which I don't get), then when I max my lig gains, can't I then just use the HDSS SO and focus solely on the tunica? If not, why not?

3. Isn't SD the ONLY direction that most of these noose stretchers go (beneath your pants; just like the MEDIUM SS)? And BIGGER says that for people with High LOT'S, like me, BTC (and since I can't do BTC with HDSS, then it's SD) is critical for maximum erect length growth ("Exhaust your ligaments and THEN go for the Tunica").

Here's my point:

IF!

- When stretching SD, I get the faster ERECT length gains
- AFTER stretching SD and MAXING my ERECT LENGTH GAINS VIA SUSPenis EnlargementNSATORY LIGS (which hangers and other stretchers and ALL BEGINNER/MANY OTHER MANUAL STRETCHES focus on), I can then stretch SO and focus SOLELY on the tunica, thereby getting even MORE ERECT LENGTH GAINS

Then why not? Why wait? Why go the route of SO when I can get a bigger dick sooner going SD? A lower exit point? Extra skin?

Thank you moregains123 for helping us all out with your expert answering of these questions. Please answer the numbered questions and then make a general response to the "IF" question: it will help hundreds of people who want to use this device!

Please remember that I am looking for ERECT LENGTH and slight ERECT GIRTH gains. I know that my flaccid will greatly increase no matter what and I don't care about flaccid.

PainsForGains;370506 said:

1. Tell me the specifics (as specific as you can get) on the negatives as you see them of using the HDSS ONLY SD. What are the positives?

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I don't see any negatives other than the usual nuisances associated with strapping anything to your dick. The positives as I see them are that the device is comfortable and powerful.

PainsForGains;370506 said:

2. If I start my HDSS journey doing just SD (6 to 4 lbs for many hours like before), and I make these easy gains (erect gains?), gains which are just more of my penis being exposed (and everyone seems to have negative opinions of these kinds of gains, which I don't get), then when I max my lig gains, can't I then just use the HDSS SO and focus solely on the tunica? If not, why not?

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You can. Many guys just don't want the lower exit point. But many guys don't mind, it's up to you.

PainsForGains;370506 said:

3. Isn't SD the ONLY direction that most of these noose stretchers go (beneath your pants; just like the MEDIUM SS)? And BIGGER says that for people with High LOT'S, like me, BTC (and since I can't do BTC with HDSS, then it's SD) is critical for maximum erect length growth ("Exhaust your ligaments and THEN go for the Tunica").

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Almost all of ADS's out there will go SU as well as SD.

PainsForGains;370506 said:

- When stretching SD, I get the faster ERECT length gains - AFTER stretching SD and MAXING my ERECT LENGTH GAINS VIA SUSPenis EnlargementNSATORY LIGS (which hangers and other stretchers and ALL BEGINNER/MANY OTHER MANUAL STRETCHES focus on), I can then stretch SO and focus SOLELY on the tunica, thereby getting even MORE ERECT LENGTH GAINS. Then why not? Why wait? Why go the route of SO when I can get a bigger dick sooner going SD? A lower exit point? Extra skin?

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Feel free to go SD. As I said before it's a matter of opinion and taste. If you don't mind the lowered exit point then SD is for you. Personally I'm in no hurry and prefer tunica growth at this point. I did gain with SD in my early days. It works fastest for measurable gains.