Just thinking aloud. I'm preparing a bit for my next p-shot. With my first one I didn't have any discoloration or soreness afterwards. I was sort of expecting a healing response as with an injury. It felt fuller and stronger (not erection per se, just that I could work it harder).

* Stop all NSAIDs, fish oil for two weeks prior and at least a month after

If you have to take something for pain I believe acetaminophen is better after treatment.

I'm also wondering about "washout" and what type of post treatment is most effective. I have read that some recommend a week of limited erections, and some a week of pumping. Then again, I understand that some are only getting one or two "shots" whereas my treatment was five syringes.
 
Second Priapus shot treatment for me was today.

This time wasn't painful at all. Use lots of numbing cream.

Some of my plasma clotted very quickly (within 5 minutes, normally it takes 45 minutes or so but I have special plasma LOL) and so it was not viable for the penis procedure. We drew more blood and made some more :blush:

Wound up with a lot extra which would have been a shame to waste, so Dr offered scalp (hair growth hopefully) and facial rejuvenation treatment gratis. Will be interesting to see how the scalp injections turn out because I am bald.

My second Priapus shot treatment was at a discount to $1250.

Cool stuff.
 
One week update after my second p-shot.

Had some bruising Yay! Lasted about 5 days but now completely gone. It was around the area that we unfortunately had to stick a few times extra with a second batch of plasma.

Not really much change in the penis I can attribute to the second p-shot. I was hoping to have more of an immediate boost as I had with the first p-shot, but it is more subtle this time.

To recap, my first p-shot I give my "best money ever spent" award. The second p-shot (at 8 weeks) I give a score of "probably wasted money."

I'm working it pretty hard this week. Lots of girth work and all day stretch. Not a whole lot of pumping though (it's somewhat inconvenient at the moment), just 10 minutes.

No visible evidence of hair regrowth. That one was a longshot but at least it was a freebie.
 
Why dont the doctors give the shot while you are hooked up to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Wouldnt this put the stuff where it really needs to be via stretched corpa. The science is almost there but they should draw way more blood (than 2 small vials) and insert the stuff when the penis is way more extended. Idk. If it helps to regrow the tissue; then it should be applied throught out stretched tissue.
 
I must say that a pump automatically will help you come out temporarily more Girthy. So i think they reccomend pumping after injection in order for people to think that the injection is working, When in actuality it just shows a better girth until the main ingredients fully exits the penis. Doctors are not dumb. And this is why they are not showing their patients real proof that their cells and tissues are actually multiplying and growing. If it was really true and perfected, then they would charge way more money. It seems like its just a temporary dilating effect that looks Okay when pumping for 2 weeks; But back to normal until your next $2000 shot. Doctors who give a discount are salesmen and know that they are selling witchcraft and false hopes. Now they know that there is no chance of product improval; Because if they thought that; then they would have waited to perfect the science and then charged 50k per surgical/injection
 
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It is in fact a filler, but it is more tolerated than artificial fillers and it has the benefit of migrating growth factors and other healing responses to the area. What effect this has to an individual is up for grabs. It's been only positive for me, other than the one bruise which btw healed like super hero speed, crazy stuff.

For those with the means who want a little boost to your PE routine I say go for it. Just don't expect a miracle.
 
TouchMyJunk: Iam glad you tried it and posted reviews. But please ask your Doctor if the injection can be administered while wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]. If he says no, Then please tell us this reason for why not. Just curious. Thanks. Because if this is suppose to help us grow; then they should inject while the penis is elongated in order to help with the elongated tissue and cells that really need this extra conditioning. So please ask him and tell us his reply. Thanks for trying and if elongated injections is not possible; then your doctor really needs to come on this site and similar other sites to explain why not. But still thanks for your trying and input. Btw; This is no longer 1999 and the doctor should have made it his priority to keep all PE members (via this site or other similar sites) updated. He knows his marketing base; but never came truly foward. So tell him the brothers have alot of questions for him. Because we no longer believe the $1600 hype.
 
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toucHydromaxyjunk;579813 said:
For those with the means who want a little boost to your PE routine I say go for it. Just don't expect a miracle.

Ditto. Nothing major here. Beginning to feel disappointed. Still have several weeks before the 3 month mark, but I expected more gains than I have at this point. Clock is still ticking though.
 
Well, my 3 months are now up. My results were minimal at best. Slightly fuller when flaccid, but no difference when erect. Wife's O shot only had slightly better results, but even that's subjective. Final recommendation from me... save your money. Wish I had more positive news, but I feel it's $2,700 wasted. Best wishes and best of luck to all.
 
thanks for the update..if anything changes, which it doesn't sound too good for that, let us know. a dr. in colorado has stopped doing the P shot due lack of successes but continues to do the o shot, but mainly for female incontenience.
 
If this surgery was truly perfected; then the Doctors would have been on here advertising consistently. Close but no cigar. But the technology just needs advance stem cells injection or something similar. We are almost there. Hooray.
 
Disco Dave;580521 said:
If this surgery was truly perfected; then the Doctors would have been on here advertising consistently. Close but no cigar. But the technology just needs advance stem cells injection or something similar. We are almost there. Hooray.
Cost aside, it's a pretty non-invasive procedure. Just a few pricks to your prick LOL. Not surgery.

I have mixed feelings regarding the "Priapus Shot" marketing. On the one hand without the marketing, this thread, and my awesome Doctor I would not have done my two procedures. Therefore the "Priapus Shot" marketing is a necessary tool to make procedures like this possible for those who really want it. Even though you should do your own research and IMO take the claims as YMMV.

To do the shot without a solid PE routine, my opinion based on those I've spoken with is that it won't change much. I just don't think that's the way it works. You need a plan to work the penis and take advantage of the increase in healing response.

Believe it or not I am going to do a third p-shot procedure in another couple of months. I expressed to my Doctor that my second p-shot didn't wow me like the first. He's giving me a complementary p-shot at the next appropriate interval. I'm going to see where I want to put it and what amounts.

As far as my penis. Honestly, it's going quite well! I have some sweet exercises I have been working on this month. Combined with the health supplement advice in this thread (coconut oil, l-citrulline, zma, extra sleep) I am getting some great EQ and quite horny LOL. I have another lab order for which in a few weeks I will get some bloodwork done again to see how my T levels improve.

Oh I almost forgot. My Doctor says that weight training for the legs is really good for boosting Testosterone levels.
 
Doctors are quacks for more than one reason. If doctors were honest they would recognize that what we do works and is valid but they lie and state that natural pe is a waste of time and damaging. Anything to keep the patient in the doctors office paying for his BathmateW.
 
toucHydromaxyjunk;580528 said:
Believe it or not I am going to do a third p-shot procedure in another couple of months. I expressed to my Doctor that my second p-shot didn't wow me like the first. He's giving me a complementary p-shot at the next appropriate interval.
And.. today was the day for my third Priapus shot. It was complementary because my second shot was kind of a dud.

This one felt close to the first procedure. The injection itself isn't horrible, but evidently on my left side I have some plaque and it takes a bit of effort even with a 30 needle. Most of the discomfort is pressure felt when pushing the PRP because it inflates the penis while flaccid, and that feels squirrely at random moments. I think it would really cut down on the discomfort if one were able to warm up first, but its in a doctor office and the junk is all numb and super flaccid. It's not unbearable by any means, just a few minutes of ouch.

The upside is that this time it turned out similar to the first. It feels really heavy and pumped. Kinda awesome.

I'm really going to capitalize on this one since it will likely be my last. My primary expansion tool will be air pump, used with lube and erect jelq. Exploiting the extra fluid and inflammation response.

As a side note, getting injections in your dick is self empowering. In this past year I've had a no-scalpel vasectomy and three Priapus shot procedures. That's like: 2+6+6+6=20 shots to the penis :cool:
 
Disco Dave;586689 said:
ToucHydromaxyjunk: So after 3 sessions; how much did you gain.
In four months I'd say pretty close to 1/4" in length in that time. Dunno for sure, it's hard to get like for like measurement. Feels better though especially around the 2nd half.

Pics from 02-01 and 06-10 roughly the same orientation in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

Also included a picture of a technique I am working on for internal expansion. It is a high flow cuffing using divo suits, flaccid jackets, and intermittent use of theraband LOL. I call it high flow because you can set up a balance of compression which is "just right" to avoid cutting off circulation. Ignoring the theraband coils.. 1" flaccid jacket sections are layered at the base until the appropriate constriction is achieved.
 
TouchMyJunk: Thank you for trying it out and giving it a honest review. But the next time that you speak to your doctor; Can you please ask him if the procedure can be done while wearing a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? BTW: I like the pics. Thanks for keeping this thread real.
 
Disco Dave;586844 said:
TouchMyJunk: Thank you for trying it out and giving it a honest review. But the next time that you speak to your doctor; Can you please ask him if the procedure can be done while wearing a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? BTW: I like the pics. Thanks for keeping this thread real.
I never asked him about the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] because I don't know how I would back up my question. I don't believe it is the right way to do it. It would cover up the injection spots, and likely make it tougher to punch through the tunica and probably hurt like hell. I did ask about whether it would be better erect or flaccid and he insisted flaccid. I have mixed feelings about that but nevermind because there's no way I could get a hard on with that numbing cream.

My opinion is that there is plenty of time after the procedure to exploit the filler since it hangs around for several weeks. I just let him concentrate on avoiding veins and not poking the needle through to the other side.

When I've had it done it takes me at least two hours total. There's the blood draw, putting on a robe, application of numbing cream, 30-60 minutes waiting on the centrifuge and preparing the PRP, maybe another numbing cream because I asked LOL, Dr visit to do another 15-20 minutes of stabbing, then ice packs and putting clothes back on.
 
toucHydromaxyjunk;575776 said:
Cost me $1,500 down here in [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words].

wow, that is some paper! I hope it is productive!
 
doublelongdaddy;586939 said:
wow, that is some paper! I hope it is productive!
Thanks. My feeling is that at least it is not unproductive. It is a procedure which has been positive for me, and didn't do anything bad, though my thoughts are that it would take quite a number of shots to get really blown away with the outcome. Currently I do not plan on any beyond the three I've had, but we will see how I feel in a few months.
 
Speaking of cost, those testosterone bloodwork labcorp panels were billed at $900 each to the insurance company. Just cost me the copay. The priapus shot isn't covered.
 
toucHydromaxyjunk;586984 said:
Speaking of cost, those testosterone bloodwork labcorp panels were billed at $900 each to the insurance company. Just cost me the copay. The priapus shot isn't covered.

Each @ $900.... Typo?

How much was/is your copay?

Testosterones(F+Total)+Estradiol+PSA+DHEA-S in a panel are usually around $70-$120 max.


There are a couple posts on thunders about purchasing your own centrifuge on ebay/ETC and doing your own shots. Just throwing that out there.
 
smerc;586992 said:
Each @ $900.... Typo?

How much was/is your copay?

Testosterones(F+Total)+Estradiol+PSA+DHEA-S in a panel are usually around $70-$120 max.


There are a couple posts on thunders about purchasing your own centrifuge on ebay/ETC and doing your own shots. Just throwing that out there.
Actually there was no copay for my labs. It was covered. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the original order. From memory it was nothing other than what you mention above. I'll have to go look through my mail and find a followup letter from LabCorp to verify the amounts. I see no charges on my CC. I have the receipt from my last lab visit and it says $888.00 (maximum amount).

Interesting about purchasing a centrifuge. It seems like a simple thing, but I kinda thought they were high-dollar like $20k or so for a decent one. The shots might not be that big of a deal but no thanks to the self blood draw.
 
Well there are plenty of kits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrOrCm8h2w

And you could contact Dr Runnels and ask about licensing or if he has made the concentration and additives public knowledge.

- - - Updated - - -

Well there are plenty of kits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrOrCm8h2w

And you could contact Dr Runnels and ask about licensing or if he has made the concentration and additives public knowledge.
 
toucHydromaxyjunk;587005 said:
Interesting about purchasing a centrifuge. It seems like a simple thing, but I kinda thought they were high-dollar like $20k or so for a decent one. The shots might not be that big of a deal but no thanks to the self blood draw.


Not that I know of. They're around $50-400 and they just go by RPM/force exertion.
If you think about it, the process is so simple. All they really do is just spin and stop @ what they're timed to stop @.
All you're really paying for is the solution mixed into the blood, the simple injection knowledge, and the fact they can push up prices since they have no or not much competition at the moment.

The blood draw is kind of icky to think about. The process is easy though. Only had my blood drawn around 30 times my whole life, so I'm not an expert :) .
Would hate to temporarily pass out and wake up to my whole room painted red.
 
Wow a needle in the glans and shaft, ouch! How long is the needle? I hate needles lol
 
I wouldnt buy shots online because not too many sites are trustworthy. And you may get a bad batch. Plus theres room for mistakes and you cant sue yourself. Lol
 
Disco Dave;587097 said:
I wouldnt buy shots online because not too many sites are trustworthy. And you may get a bad batch. Plus theres room for mistakes and you cant sue yourself. Lol

:|

All of the mentioned injections are locally done.

Not sure what you're referring to.
 
smerc;587104 said:
:|

All of the mentioned injections are locally done.

Not sure what you're referring to.
I was referring to DIY Chem PE and things of that nature.
 
LIGHTNING;587094 said:
Wow a needle in the glans and shaft, ouch! How long is the needle? I hate needles lol
Nobody hates needles more than me <:( The needle was like 30awg and 1-1/2" long. I just don't think I could do it myself. Just look away, hold onto the gurney and transport your mind to a vagina far far away.
 
toucHydromaxyjunk;587153 said:
Nobody hates needles more than me <:( The needle was like 30awg and 1-1/2" long. I just don't think I could do it myself. Just look away, hold onto the gurney and transport your mind to a vagina far far away.

Never needled my dick and never will...scares the crap out of me
 
I don't mean to jump in but I feel compelled to throw in my two cents worth. I have been into PE for over 15 years and I am 46 now. I have tried so many different ideas it would make a man dizzy. I have tried HGH straight into my Corpus... I have tried IFG-1 also.... I am getting ready for my Third priapus shot.... I guess you can call me a junky... lol So far the best results from anything I have tried has got to be good old fashion pumping.... water or air i like them both in their own way. I started way back at just under 6" and I am now only at 7.25" Now in the 15 years I have taken time off and started back up many many times. I definitely think that the verdict is still out on the P-shot. I believe in the concept but if after three shots I don't get much if any gains I will move on to the next. Might look into my own centrifuge. I would have to do more research on the vials and the product that they are mixing with, and where to get good product to use. Hope this helps any of you crazy guys like me thinking about stabbing your buddy with new ideas.... lol Best of luck and keep pumping......
 
longshooter;594457 said:
I don't mean to jump in but I feel compelled to throw in my two cents worth. I have been into PE for over 15 years and I am 46 now. I have tried so many different ideas it would make a man dizzy. I have tried HGH straight into my Corpus... I have tried IFG-1 also.... I am getting ready for my Third priapus shot.... I guess you can call me a junky... lol So far the best results from anything I have tried has got to be good old fashion pumping.... water or air i like them both in their own way. I started way back at just under 6" and I am now only at 7.25" Now in the 15 years I have taken time off and started back up many many times. I definitely think that the verdict is still out on the P-shot. I believe in the concept but if after three shots I don't get much if any gains I will move on to the next. Might look into my own centrifuge. I would have to do more research on the vials and the product that they are mixing with, and where to get good product to use. Hope this helps any of you crazy guys like me thinking about stabbing your buddy with new ideas.... lol Best of luck and keep pumping......

That seems to be the consensus on manual PE versus chemical, manual works best. I am always hoping for more conclusive information on chemical work and we have been working in this area for years now, it just seems the results do not pan out for most. Like you said, Good Old Fashion works best.
 
There are already discussions on DIY PRP shots @ home. You might try finding those. I think the big issue w/ that it where to find the kits.

The only thing I know that they're mixing w/ it is:

Sodium Citrate = Anticoagulant (used in the tube/vial where the blood is being drawn in to (this is so the PRP/ETC can be extracted easier from the RBC in the centrifuge)).
Calcium Chloride = [used in the injection vial and mixed w/ the end result PRP] / Initiates platelet activation, clot formation and growth factor release at the injection site. "Tricks the platelets into thinking that they are in the body and the body has been injured".
Thrombin = Sometimes used w/ calcium chloride. Not sure how vital it is. It's said to be an activator of some sort.

longshooter
What was protocol after your shots? I think all docs recommend pumping as this should localize the plasma within the penis for a longer duration. A cock ring after would also have it's benefits.

Some places are also looking into hyaluronic acid mixed w/ the PRP. There has been some talk of necrosis though. Seems to be just the speculations w/ fillers though and not for using it as a means to keep the PRP localized.
 
My post shot routine was as follows:
First month was every day 10 minute pump two minutes off 10 minute pump....twice a day. Then my doctor back to me off to just 10 minutes on two minutes off, 10 minutes on once a day just three times a week. Again I have nominal if any positive results. To the point that my doctor is giving me a free shot into weeks. I will let you know if he tries anything different this time. Thanks for the home shot information and chemical breakdown. I will keep doing my research also.
 
Maybe he will recommend trying a ring w/ the pump. If not, you might try asking him about it.

Not saying that can make or break results, but it helps to keep things more local. I think if you were going to see any benefits, you would have already seen them by now.

How many mL of plasma is he injecting?
 
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longshooter;594457 said:
I don't mean to jump in but I feel compelled to throw in my two cents worth. I have been into PE for over 15 years and I am 46 now. I have tried so many different ideas it would make a man dizzy. I have tried HGH straight into my Corpus... I have tried IFG-1 also.... I am getting ready for my Third priapus shot.... I guess you can call me a junky... lol So far the best results from anything I have tried has got to be good old fashion pumping.... water or air i like them both in their own way. I started way back at just under 6" and I am now only at 7.25" Now in the 15 years I have taken time off and started back up many many times. I definitely think that the verdict is still out on the P-shot. I believe in the concept but if after three shots I don't get much if any gains I will move on to the next. Might look into my own centrifuge. I would have to do more research on the vials and the product that they are mixing with, and where to get good product to use. Hope this helps any of you crazy guys like me thinking about stabbing your buddy with new ideas.... lol Best of luck and keep pumping......
Very similar stats to me. Same age and PE duration.

After my first gains (jelq), for a few years I ditched most exercises and went with an air pump. I pumped almost every day, with the girth filling a 2.25" tube and length at the same as my erect length. I got a more cylindrical shape and fullness but not impactful gains. In my opinion, exclusive use of a pump is not optimal.

Nowadays I combine the use of an air pump as a final exercise, after stretches and extending sessions.

I have been having success with using the air pump thusly..

* If you have ball or shaft hair, get rid of it. Either wax (I use Surgi-wax) or shaving is ok. The hair restricts the exercises

* With an air pump use lots of lube and go in as erect as possible. This is the key. In the past I pumped until I had lots of fluid retension but that is a waste of time. You'll want to go in very hard and pump to where you are getting good erect expansion but avoid pumping when only semi-erect because it will bring about fluid retension too quickly. YMMV but I personally do -10 to -15 but keep a watchful eye out for head blistering

* Pump for a few minutes, then at regular intervals do a minute or so of wet jelq at 75% erection strength. It helps to have a cup of water nearby to re-wet the lube. Get fully hard again and pump to the same metric. I do that for probably 30 minutes or so

* If you have a failing libido, try becoming satisfied with edging and avoid ejaculation for a day or two. It can really help with the mechanics of exercise to have a built up libido

I have done three p-shots so far. I used my regular routine afterwards, nothing special though I do extra jelqing and expansion exercises because I am interested in the improved vascularity. This last shot I ramped up my routine 150%. I pushed very hard with a bit of everything. Even did a two-week cycle of Andractim. It's still gaining steadily at about the same rate so I guess there's a bit of a limit on how quickly it can be built out. One of the things with my more intense routine I was trying to do is provide a longer duration erection, to act as a scaffold for the PRP whatchamacallits to grow into. It seems effective but as I said the gains are just kinda moving at glacial pace but still positive.. probably won't even get another 1/4" before the end of the year.

My Dr has an additional souped-up P-shot with stem cells (he does a mini lipo-suction of your fat and extracts stem cells). I may give that a try before year end.
 
Swelling has receded tremendously though there is still some bruising. Haven't been erect yet except when in the pump chamber, but have more girth when flaccid. Nothing for wife yet. Will know more as time goes on.

How is life with you brother? It would be great if you can tell us how you have been using your new size all these years.
 
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