Hey BBB, if comfortable, just set up a fake account in another email and send just the pic of your frenulum to his email. That way it's not posted and it'll just get deleted. Or he can give you his email through direct message. Just verify things before ever sending anything. You can also ask DLD as he'll definitely respect your wishes.
 
BigBeardBig -
That's OK if you don't want to post a photo. If you can look at the photos that have been posted, and match something similar to your situation, then do that. I am not interested in looking at anyone's photos outside of this forum. Its better that way.
Brahmanion has given me permission to use his photos in this forum to show you the difference in tying all at once or waiting for the piercing to heal.
 
tj2;682647 said:
BigBeardBig -
That's OK if you don't want to post a photo. If you can look at the photos that have been posted, and match something similar to your situation, then do that. I am not interested in looking at anyone's photos outside of this forum. Its better that way.
Brahmanion has given me permission to use his photos in this forum to show you the difference in tying all at once or waiting for the piercing to heal.

That is true but, whats the reason for the healing of piercing first ? Why wait ?
I like both options with or without piercing.
 
BigBeardBig;682648 said:
That is true but, whats the reason for the healing of piercing first ? Why wait ?
I like both options with or without piercing.

Brahmanion has given me permission to use his photos in this forum to help illustrate
different techniques. Thank you Brahmanion!!! You did an awesome job and removed a
large chunk of your frenulum. Feel free to add any advice to this post.

_If you make a big, deep tie...whichever technique you use the healing will take time. The
following info is about using a "2 tie technique". Brahmanion used his "brahmanion 2 tie
technque"(B2T) and I used a "piercing 2 tie technique"(P2T). Either one works. Using
the B2T, when the ties cut through the wound will be the entire length of the tie and it will
take weeks to heal. With the P2T, you wait weeks for the piercing to heal and when the
threads cut through you have only 2 tiny wounds to heal. I will post some photos to better
illustrate the difference.
_This is really a matter of preference...this is my thoughts on it. B2T is probably faster,
but less predictable (maybe) and for me a little more stressful because of the size of the
wound. Brahmanion acknowledged that using scissors to cut around the ties contributed
to the wound size and had he waited, the wound would have been much smaller (although
not as much would have been removed) and easier to heal. P2T allows you to slowly
stretch the piercing to the amount you want to remove, you can better visualize what you
are removing and then you only have 2 tiny wounds where the threads cut through.
_Single ties also work...you will need to tie multiple times to achieve the same as using a 2
tie technique. Healing time is nearly the same for single or 2 ties, so you gain some time
using 2 ties. A single ties cuts the frenulum in one place and allows it move apart at that
point. 2 ties removes part of the frenulum and allows it to move apart a greater distance.
_ The most important part of any tying technique is PATIENCE!!!! Let me say that once
more - The most important part of any tying technique is PATIENCE!!!! Let the tie do its
work, let it heal and keep tighening the thread until it falls off. If you do that the wound will
be small and manageable and scarring will be minimal.
photos -
#1 B2T pierced with needle, both ties went through this hole at an angle from each other.
#2 B2T ties in place
#3 B2T one tie is out, yellow circles are where the ties were, red circle is wound
#6 P2T piercing hole completely healed
#7 P2T ties in place
#8 P2T ties have cut through, this is only 3 days after ties came out, yellow circle is the
area that was inside the piercing hole and is completely healed, red circles are the small
wounds from the ties.

In both photos #3 and #8 you can see the amount of looseness that was gained. Which is
the distance of space between the ties.
Either of these techniques work...it just comes down to preference of how you go about it.

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thank you tj2 for this detailed explanation!

We both did great job and gained massive experience! ;)

To you BigBeardBig, we dont want to see your dick, only your frenulum close-up and its connection to your glans to advise you about tying in your particular situation and physiology.
 
These are great expansions and I truly understand what you guys are explaining. So glad I could see everything as well. I spent years trying not to look through this thread but now I see I was just scared and ignorant. You guys really showed great strength. Thank you and good luck BBB.
 
runningignus;682667 said:
These are great expansions and I truly understand what you guys are explaining. So glad I could see everything as well. I spent years trying not to look through this thread but now I see I was just scared and ignorant. You guys really showed great strength. Thank you and good luck BBB.

Information and pictures in this thread are priceless, thats for sure.
Alot of guys in Europe expecially should look into this.
 
BigBeardBig;682682 said:
Information and pictures in this thread are priceless, thats for sure.
Alot of guys in Europe expecially should look into this.

I hope you have kept progress pictures.
 
BigBeardBig;682835 said:
Yep I do keep progress pics, but same as with my dick measurements I keep it only for my (or my wifes) eyes.

Well, as I said in the other thread, Ii am glad you are taking them and if in the future you change your mind you will have the photo evidence.
 
doublelongdaddy;682910 said:
Well, as I said in the other thread, Ii am glad you are taking them and if in the future you change your mind you will have the photo evidence.

Indeed, I keep evidence of everything - PE, frenulum changes, body transformation, beard and hair changes
lol Im pretty weird in this way so if the time comes and Il find it productive and good, I might share it all. Only time will show.
 
i've been watching this forum for quite a little and finally get registered. First problem is that I want to get rid off my frenulum and i was wondering how deep should i go . In the pictures that are in this post you can see the problem and i'm open to ideas








ED: I hope you can see now
 
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Id very much like to advise you brother but all the links give me same information: "Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"
Its not problem on your side tho, I contacted admin about this multiple times.

About 50% pics work, other half showes this message, its pretty annoying.
 
BigBeardBig;683060 said:
Id very much like to advise you brother but all the links give me same information: "Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"
Its not problem on your side tho, I contacted admin about this multiple times.

About 50% pics work, other half showes this message, its pretty annoying.

Any pictures uploaded through the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] server are up and working. If pictures are posted from outside the forum we have no control over their being there or not. If anyone is having issues with this please link me to what is not working. Keep in mind that the Mobile [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] site does not have every option that the real site does. So many times, when you can't see a picture, video or link it is because you are not on a desktop computer. If you are using mobile try using a computer and see if this does not correct issue. We are working hard to implement these things into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] application but they simply are not available yet and like the video server we have, we may need to build these functions ourself.
 
doublelongdaddy;683063 said:
Any pictures uploaded through the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] server are up and working. If pictures are posted from outside the forum we have no control over their being there or not. If anyone is having issues with this please link me to what is not working. Keep in mind that the Mobile [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] site does not have every option that the real site does. So many times, when you can't see a picture, video or link it is because you are not on a desktop computer. If you are using mobile try using a computer and see if this does not correct issue. We are working hard to implement these things into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] application but they simply are not available yet and like the video server we have, we may need to build these functions ourself.

Hi DLD, Im on desktop computer (tried cable/wireless, tried different browsers) and about half of the pics show me always this message "Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"
Its always with the pics uploaded thru [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], alwys the links called Attachmentxxxxx (some number)
 
a quick note about posting photos. After clicking on the "insert image" icon, be sure to click on the "from computer" tab and not the "from URL" tab. "from computer" actually uploads your image so it is physically on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] server. "from URL" is a link to the image on your computer...if your computer is off or not configured to share properly it could result in an "invalid attachment" as the image cannot be found. Sometimes (this has happened to me) even doing it "from computer" the images will not appear and still show as "attachmentxxxx". What has worked for me is editing that post, delete "attachmentxxxx" and re inserting it "from computer". Uploading 6 images from the same folder on my computer sometimes results in only 3 showing and 3 being attachments (then I have to do the work around as mentioned above) so, I think there may be issues with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] server interface. If any one is interested I could post better directions (with images) of how to post images. Perhaps an IT person could better explain this...
 
BigBeardBig;683068 said:
Hi DLD, Im on desktop computer (tried cable/wireless, tried different browsers) and about half of the pics show me always this message "Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"
Its always with the pics uploaded thru [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], alwys the links called Attachmentxxxxx (some number)

People must be posting the picture wrong. It is such an easy thing. I will make a thread showing exactly how to do this.
 
tj2;683148 said:
a quick note about posting photos. After clicking on the "insert image" icon, be sure to click on the "from computer" tab and not the "from URL" tab. "from computer" actually uploads your image so it is physically on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] server. "from URL" is a link to the image on your computer...if your computer is off or not configured to share properly it could result in an "invalid attachment" as the image cannot be found. Sometimes (this has happened to me) even doing it "from computer" the images will not appear and still show as "attachmentxxxx". What has worked for me is editing that post, delete "attachmentxxxx" and re inserting it "from computer". Uploading 6 images from the same folder on my computer sometimes results in only 3 showing and 3 being attachments (then I have to do the work around as mentioned above) so, I think there may be issues with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] server interface. If any one is interested I could post better directions (with images) of how to post images. Perhaps an IT person could better explain this...

This is true, done with the "Insert Image" it feels like half the time it shows attachmentXxxx that works, other half it gives links attachmentxxxx and it doesnt workl.
Done through the advanced option as DLD posted works from my experience 100% times. But I think most people use the "Insert Image" way.
 
doublelongdaddy;683201 said:
People must be posting the picture wrong. It is such an easy thing. I will make a thread showing exactly how to do this.

so what is the right way? Only so many options. Looking forward to "exactly how to do this"
 
mr.little;683054 said:
i've been watching this forum for quite a little and finally get registered. First problem is that I want to get rid off my frenulum and i was wondering how deep should i go . In the pictures that are in this post you can see the problem and i'm open to ideas

ED: I hope you can see now

mr.little - I can see your post now on page 36 (post #718). It looks like perhaps its your foreskin and not your frenulum? What does it look like with the foreskin pulled over the head? Can you post a photo of that using directions from post #727? If its your foreskin there are lots of ways to stretch that to relieve the tightness without tying or cutting.
 
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Brahmanion;683560 said:
Hey BigBeardBig, did your tying work well?

Hi brother sorry I forgot to post in this topic.
The tie came off yesterday and Im AMAZED with the results. I gained probably more than 1 inch of free space with this method.
Now Il wait until it heals and decide from there :)

Im so happy I found this topic and did it.
 
BigBeardBig;683562 said:
Hi brother sorry I forgot to post in this topic.
The tie came off yesterday and Im AMAZED with the results. I gained probably more than 1 inch of free space with this method.
Now Il wait until it heals and decide from there :)

Im so happy I found this topic and did it.

Wow, you gained an entire inch in the process? That is mind blowing!
 
Did my second tye yesterday, took me about 10 seconds :)
Only hard time-consuming part was the surgical knot lol

Once you do this, its never a problem do it again. No shaky hands, nothing.
 
BigBeardBig;683615 said:
Yeah, 1 inch of free skin space, not 1 inch PE length gain. Just to be clear :)

Well when you are finished there should be an instant increase in length.
 
After long time having problems with my frenulum, tearing it twice, I decided to tie it also. Thanks to BigBeardBig for helping me to make my decision.
Now I just want to make sure how to do it right.
Do you guys think 3mm thread, same kind as stretch magic will work? Or should I keep looking for 5mm thread?
And should I apply cream with bactirin after every time I soak in water with salt?
And will the table salt(the one used in the kitchen) that's iodinized work, or should I get different kind?
And I will be getting syringe needle, like some other guys in this thread. Better have both sewing and syringe needles and decide what to use later on.
Plus, thanks to all the guys that did it and shared their experiences. It helps a lot.
 
GhostRider;686951 said:
After long time having problems with my frenulum, tearing it twice, I decided to tie it also. Thanks to BigBeardBig for helping me to make my decision.
Now I just want to make sure how to do it right.
Do you guys think 3mm thread, same kind as stretch magic will work? Or should I keep looking for 5mm thread?
And should I apply cream with bactirin after every time I soak in water with salt?
And will the table salt(the one used in the kitchen) that's iodinized work, or should I get different kind?
And I will be getting syringe needle, like some other guys in this thread. Better have both sewing and syringe needles and decide what to use later on.
Plus, thanks to all the guys that did it and shared their experiences. It helps a lot.

Let us know how it goes!
 
GhostRider;686951 said:
After long time having problems with my frenulum, tearing it twice, I decided to tie it also. Thanks to BigBeardBig for helping me to make my decision.
Now I just want to make sure how to do it right.
Do you guys think 3mm thread, same kind as stretch magic will work? Or should I keep looking for 5mm thread?
And should I apply cream with bactirin after every time I soak in water with salt?
And will the table salt(the one used in the kitchen) that's iodinized work, or should I get different kind?
And I will be getting syringe needle, like some other guys in this thread. Better have both sewing and syringe needles and decide what to use later on.
Plus, thanks to all the guys that did it and shared their experiences. It helps a lot.

Hi GhostRider, I thought about your frenulum recently (lol sounds weird) but I remembered you.
Hope you did alot of research about this, it will be best decision you ever did regarding your penis helath brother.
Now I will try answer your questions, those answers are only my opinions based on my won experience.

Do you guys think 3mm thread, same kind as stretch magic will work? Or should I keep looking for 5mm thread?
- I believe 3mm thread would work just fine, but if you can find 5mm it will be best as you have here tens of brothers who did 5mm and all worked perfect.

And should I apply cream with bactirin after every time I soak in water with salt?
- thats what I did, not sure if neccesary, you should be fine even applying only 2 times a day

And will the table salt(the one used in the kitchen) that's iodinized work, or should I get different kind?
- should be absolutely fine, but Id go for sea salt.

And I will be getting syringe needle, like some other guys in this thread. Better have both sewing and syringe needles and decide what to use later on.
- good thinking, I used syringe needle to make the hole, sewing needle to get it all through. make sure everything is clean and sterilized.
 
Hey guys,

I'm prepping to tie my frenulum for the first time. Ordered some 0.5mm stretch magic and some EMLA cream online (very hard to get in Australia and costs $70 for 30g); string arrived today, expecting the cream tomorrow.

Bit of back story: mild phimosis, and frenulum breve (not as bad as some, but bad enough). Started using flesh tunnels to fix the phimosis, seemed to be working well, but it started cutting my frenulum - it still hasn't healed properly after 23 days (retraction of the foreskin reopens/splits the original cut). On the plus side, the original cut has not healed back the way it was before, so I've gained some frenular length from this (similar to doing a shallow tie in the centre of the frenulum).

Even before the cut, the frenulum pulled and hurt if I tried to retract past the corona of the glans (I can get the foreskin behind the corona but the frenulum is pulled tight along the groove in the glans, any further retraction pulls hard on the glans and causes tipping). Never had sex, but I am worried it would tear, so I want to sort it out sooner, rather than later.

The other issue is the frenulum pretty much joins onto the meatus, which as far as I can tell, isn't the norm, but isn't unheard of either. The result is 2 "lips", like the labia minora on a woman. It may also explain why I generally can't pee straight and it tends to spray a fair bit.

Plan of attack: I think what I want to do is a tie that separates the frenulum from the meatus at the top of the lips, using the labia analogy where the clit would be. It's important to me that there is no nub of tissue left on the meatus, but I guess I'll have to workout how to fix that if/when it occurs (hopefully it won't happen or will heal into itself quickly). Another user (sorry forget who) posted this image, which describes my thinking quite well:
View attachment 31545

As a bit of a trial, I've marked a line using a Sharpie where I want the knot to sit (top of the lips) and another line 5mm along the frenulum where I am wanting to put the needle. I've then marked 2 dots close to the glans in line with second line (confused?).

Once this tie has pulled through, I'll assess if I need to make a second one; if I do, I think I'll repeat what I did with the first, slowly working my way down the glans until I'm happy with the result (painless retraction, hopefully most of the way down the shaft and no skin tags or hard lumps).


So, does anyone have any tips or suggestions? Is this method going to work and give me the result I'm after?
 
Hi _MustNotFap_, I think in your case is better to make double tie technique to get rid of meatus connection first and create clean look.
 
Brahmanion;688239 said:
Hi _MustNotFap_, I think in your case is better to make double tie technique to get rid of meatus connection first and create clean look.

Where would you put the 2 ties?

I saw some of the pics you posted (black stump between ties and a bit of a wound) - does this tend to hurt more and take longer to heal than a single tie would? I guess I'm concerned about necrosis spreading from the intended area and causing complications.

I'll think about this a bit over night, but I think I might take on your suggestion. I guess the easiest way to get 2 strings through is to use a single double length piece, folded in half through the eye of the needle and then pulled halfway through the frenulum, snip the needle off leaving 2 strings.


Thanks for the advice
 
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So, just made my first tie (it's been in for about an hour so far) - using the B2T method. Feels kind of liberating.

Thoughts: probably could have gone a little closer to the glans, but I was worried about an vein coming from within the shaft (not in the frenulum) into the glans and also about slipping through and piercing the glans.

I pulled the needle most of the way through but added a few drops of water based lubricant to the eye of the needle and the string going through the eye - seemed to do the trick, the eye went through very easily.

In terms of pain, there was none for 99% of the process - a thick smear of EMLA saw to that. There was a small throb, not so much painful as uncomfortable, when I tightened the lower string (furtherest from the meatus).

Strings have been tucked under the carona on either side, which keeps them from hanging out of my foreskin.

The piece of frenulum between the 2 ties is a little swollen and feels like a knotted rubber band (slightly squishy, but firm).
 
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Latley I did a lot of research on methods of fixing short frenulum problem. And there're a two basic methods that are worth a try- tying and surgery, called frenuloplasty. I wanted to compare them and make educated decision on what is best.
What I found out is that many times uroligist just screw up the operation which simply doesn't help. They cut you and you get very little or none results at all. Most of the time doctors will tell you that "if you can move foreskin behind the glans you don't need an operation and they won't perform it". Yeah, I tore my frenulum 2 times, but they don't care. And if you persuade them to do frenuloplasty on you, they still screw up. Besides the fact that there is not much improvement, many guys have a lot of scar tissue. It looks kinda ugly. This is the best post-frenuloplasty image I seen so far:
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Most cases look much worse, especially that you won't gain much freedom woth your foreskin. The guy in the photo was lucky to find a good urologist.
And tying seems to be much better. More gradual, less or no scar tissue, more free movement of foreskin gained, and much cheaper. Plus you can decide when you have enough for yourself. Many times urologist leave a lot of extra skin, leftovers from frenulum and just leave it to be, cause "it shouldn't interfere with sexual activity". With tying, you can fix all that.
That's why I decided finally to tie my frenulum. I ordered all the stuff online, And it should get to me shortly. On friday or monday.
I will tie then, and let you know how it go.
 
GhostRider: Amen ! Frenulum tying is the way to go. You do it yourself, first tie is usually just a start, you most guys need 2-3 ties until its all perfect.
Zero pain, no scar tissue if done correctly, awesome lookin dick at the end. Amazing new freedom, you will feel very proud you did better job than urologist ever would.
 
It seems the tie closest to the meatus slipped last night, so the area it was pinching off was too small. I don't think it was quite tight enough to begin with, so I tried to untie it and retie it - big mistake - all i succeeded in doing was making it looser and rubbing the frenulum raw :(.

I ended up cutting both ties off (couldn't get the needle through where the lower tie was and I wanted a common point of entry) and retying them. unfortunately I couldn't find the original hole on one side, so I ended up having to make a new exit - oh well. Knots have been retied, hopefully this time they go full term and fall out naturally and I haven't done too much damage
 
Ok guys. So I just did it. I tied my frenulum about 15 minutes ago. Here's the story:
I numbed myself first with lidocaine (from Swiss Medical). Waited about 20 min to numb cream to start working. In the mean time I sterilized everything: needles, hands, that elastic thread I was using; for sterilizing I used lighter and alcohol wipes.
Next I checked if my dick was numb. It was and, let me tell you, it's the wierdest feeling of all time. Like you have no dick. If that's what women feel than thank God I was born a man! rofl
So after making sure it's numb (by poking it with a needle a little), I removed lidocaine cream; than sterilized my penis with alcohol wipes.

And it was go time. I wanted to pierce a hole with a syringe needle first and than go through the hole with sewing needle with the magic cord. But my hands were shaking so much it was difficult to use small syringe needle.
After a few tries I just use a sewing needle. Old, big and a little blunt. At first it was difficult to find a right angle, but quickly I found how to do it. I just put needle under my frenulum and turning my penis so I see it, found right place to go through.

So I went through. Didn't really hurt. No bleeding whatsoever. Than I just tied and voila! I used a usual, square tie a few times, than a suregons knot on top. I cut off excess stretch magic, and than disinfected with Octenisept spray.

I tied my knot really tight I think, but it's diffucult to tell when dick is numb and hand are shaking. But it looks tight now.
I used 0.6 mm elastic stretch-magic type thread. IMO best from what I could find.

One question: My dick is now cold, especially the glans. Is it from trauma or numbing cream or did I limit blood circulation somehow?
 
GhostRider;688665 said:
One question: My dick is now cold, especially the glans. Is it from trauma or numbing cream or did I limit blood circulation somehow?

Be proud of yourself bro, you did it !
The cold dick is very normal, mostly from numbing cream.
Your dick will be as good as new next day. Do warm/hot water sea salt soaks multiple times a day bro to make it as fast as possible, no scar tissue, no pain.
 
BigBeardBig;688677 said:
Be proud of yourself bro, you did it !
The cold dick is very normal, mostly from numbing cream.
Your dick will be as good as new next day. Do warm/hot water sea salt soaks multiple times a day bro to make it as fast as possible, no scar tissue, no pain.

It's not cold anymore. And thanks a lot for your support along the way. I wouldn't have done it without you, brother.
 
ALEX89;688734 said:
Hi, everyone just want to ask what is your suggestion about my situation, how many ties should I do 1 or 2? Where yo pierce? What knot should I use? cotton or fishing line?
Thank you.
What's the issue you're having? Your frenulum looks fairly normal to me, though I don't have much to go on.

The knot I used was the surgeon's knot/square knot/reef knot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lvQ2YJ0RjQ
Some people have used blood knots and other knots too

If you just want to get a little more looseness/detach from the glans, I'd consider putting one here, but more experienced tiers may have other ideas:
 
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The issue what I have that my frenulum already was ripped of in my teenage, but not all of it and now when my pines erected my foreskin don't stay on a shaft permanently, snapping and covers half of my glans.
 
Looks like my tie is cutting through, slowly but surely. Should be done by friday, or maybe even earlier.
 
lightlyfried;689120 said:
What are the advantages for me to consider this?

If you have frenulum problems (bent glans, trouble retracting foreskin, tearing of your frenulum, etc.) it will solve them.
If you don't have any problems related to your frenulum, I wouldn't bother doing it.
 
I gave myself one unintentionally. Started off as a weak spot on the fren which always gashed up during sessions. Over time I just got stretched and scarred to the point it looks tied.
 
templnite;689151 said:
I gave myself one unintentionally. Started off as a weak spot on the fren which always gashed up during sessions. Over time I just got stretched and scarred to the point it looks tied.

And you don't have any problems now?

For me I believe short frenulum stopped my length gains. So at some point, at least for some PErs, frenulum needs to give up, or there will be no gains. In your case it happened naturally, I had to help mine with tying.
 
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