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Hey guys.
I'm Mike Shlort.
I've been Penis Enlargementing since the end of September.
Today I went to see a specialist who actually is willing to help with penis enlargement, as opposed to physicians and urologists who will practically roll their eyes and tell you you're stupid when you tell them you want to enlarge your penis. This particular doctor has treated many men with non-surgical penis enlargement, and also does not belong to a large drug company.
I asked him some questions today and found out a lot of things. I feel it is my duty to share with all of you what I have learned.
Basically, there is a ligament running down the dorsal (top) of the penis. It runs in between the two corpora cavernosa. This ligament determines how long you erect penis will be. This is the main ligament that is to be targeted when stretching. In other words, this is the ligament you want to stretch.
By not going to seek professional help before starting Penis Enlargement, I made some very terrible mistakes which may have permanently plateaued my gains. Here are the mistakes I made so you don't make them as well:
1. The DLD newbie routine is too intense to start with.
This routine takes roughly 45min - 1 hour to complete. This is way too much to be starting with. You should start with a couple minutes a day of stretching and gradually, slowly work up - do more stretches and SLOWLY increase intensity over time. I made the mistake of pulling very hard from the beginning and did that for 4 months when I started stretching. Because of that, I may have caused fibrosis in my ligaments, which basically means they may be permanently too tough to gain anymore length. Start out with a fraction of the DLD newbie routine then gradually work you way up to the full routine - best if it's broken down throughout the day.
2. Don't start pumping or clamping until you have the length you want.
Pumping and clamping creates fibrosis of this dorsal ligament, making it thicker and less pronounced and hindering your length gains. Do your length work first, get to where you want to be length wise, then add the girth. Jelqing is okay to be doing while working length. You shouldn't be doing anything too intense girth wise until you are at the length you desire.
3. Hanging and stretching with weights should not be done until you have completely exhausted your gains from manuals.
When you start adding weights for stretching, the ligaments toughen up that much quicker. Then you need to drastically increase weight just to get into the gain zone. Once your ligaments have toughened up, chances of you being able to gain more length are very slim.
Extenders are okay to use after manuals but only at lowest tension. IRSPow mentioned something about this in one of his posts, along the lines of subjects being tested with extenders gained more during the first portion with lowest tension and less in the latter portion with higher tension. It is ideal to take off the extender every 1.5-2 hours for a bit. Also, he said the best type of extenders are ones that fit over the head (like the Penimaster Pro), as they are the least damaging to the penis.
He explained to me that the pigmentation in my penis (discoloration) is from excessive Penis Enlargementing (pumping in my case). He explained that they are iron deposits in the blood, and they are also internally in my penis throughout, not just on the surface. He explained that the iron blocks the cells from properly healing, cells carry a certain kind of energy to help replenish and the iron deposits block this energy. I'm not 100% sure of his scientific explanation, but basically he told me this is bad when you are trying to get length gains. It's okay to pump and such when working girth only, but it will plateau your length very quickly. He prescribed me a topical cream called Verapamil to be applied 3-4 times daily on the top and sides of the penis, mostly along the dorsal ligament. He said this will help reverse the fibrosis and soften up the ligament and also help with the discoloration.
On a side note, I went to a urologist a week before. He was utterly useless to me, but he did not happen to note the discoloration of my penis, but right away the doctor I saw today noticed the discoloration and knew what it was.
I asked him about wrapping ie Uncle Jim's Wrap. He said that wrapping tight is not a good idea and can cause the pigmentation/iron deposits. I'm going to purchase a divosuit to see how tight it fits but I will probably only be using the PeniMaster Pro after manuals. I will not be using my Bathmate until I am at my desired length.
I read in the book "Exercising the Penis" by Aarom Kemmer (alias Remek on these Penis Enlargement forums). It described "the gain zone" in the book. This is basically body "clues" tell you that you are in gaining zone. The clues are no pain when exercising, ability to have strong erections throughout day, and nightly/morning erections. I asked the doctor about all night wrapping/stretching and he explained that when your penis is healthy and you are basically in the gain zone (he did not use that phrase) you will have erections throughout the night, and those are enough to keep the size for gaining.
ANOTHER THING I DID WRONG: After girth work, I would tie off with a bathrobe cord to keep the pump. Same idea as a cock ring. This is bad for the dorsal ligament and limits ability to gain with length. So I will also be cutting that out altogether.
He agreed that it is best to stick to a routine that you are gaining on as long as you can.
He agreed that warm ups are important and warm downs can be beneficial. I also asked about "cool downs" and he suggested that they might help "lock" in gains from stretching, so long as you are manually pulling your penis out in a stretch as you cool it off.
He told me the majority of stretching should be down in the down direction (all angles), but other directions such as straight out and straight up are important to do as well. He told me the more angles the better.
He told me PC exercises are just as if not more important than the actual enlargement exercises because the ability to have strong erections and last during intercourse is as important as the size. I agree with him to a degree, but I think size is always important. He suggested that I do more PC exercises for EQ, which in turn will help gains, because I will be getting more erections throughout the day and night, harder ones that last longer, which is key for gaining.
L-lysine throughout the day on an empty stomach is a good idea.
This is pretty much all I can remember from the appointment.
I am basically going to start LIGHT stretching, maybe 5 minutes per session, a couple times a day and work my way up to doing the DLD newbie routine in it's entirety once or twice a day, or broken up. Extending after the length sessions with SG extender (and will get Penimaster Pro upgrade). Bathmate is going on the shelf to collect dust. I will still be jelqing. I will start at 300 jelqs, add 5-10 per night, then if he advises, I will incorporate more advanced manual girth exercises into my nighttime girth routine. But right now I am concerned with length. WHen I was pumping, I got my penis to 7.5" erect girth (from 5.8") the morning after the workout. But these temporary gains are superficial and a lot of the gain is fluid between the skin and core of the penis.
I AM NOT SAYING PUMPING IS NOT GOOD. I STILL INTEND TO PUMP, CLAMP, AND TIE OFF MY Penis EnlargementNIS, BUT ONLY WHEN I HAVE DESIRED/PLATEAUED LENGTH. I have gotten good results from pumping. But what good is a short and fat penis?
I have writers block now. I'm sure more things will come to me in the future from what he taught me, but this is all I can recite at this point. If you have any questions, post them here or PM and I'll try my best to remember them or I'll write them down to ask the doctor next time I speak with him.
One last thing, check this out:
http://www.chempe.com/2010/04/injections.html?zx=c5c0dabbfb097f72
This guy is onto something. This is worth considering.
I'm Mike Shlort.
I've been Penis Enlargementing since the end of September.
Today I went to see a specialist who actually is willing to help with penis enlargement, as opposed to physicians and urologists who will practically roll their eyes and tell you you're stupid when you tell them you want to enlarge your penis. This particular doctor has treated many men with non-surgical penis enlargement, and also does not belong to a large drug company.
I asked him some questions today and found out a lot of things. I feel it is my duty to share with all of you what I have learned.
Basically, there is a ligament running down the dorsal (top) of the penis. It runs in between the two corpora cavernosa. This ligament determines how long you erect penis will be. This is the main ligament that is to be targeted when stretching. In other words, this is the ligament you want to stretch.
By not going to seek professional help before starting Penis Enlargement, I made some very terrible mistakes which may have permanently plateaued my gains. Here are the mistakes I made so you don't make them as well:
1. The DLD newbie routine is too intense to start with.
This routine takes roughly 45min - 1 hour to complete. This is way too much to be starting with. You should start with a couple minutes a day of stretching and gradually, slowly work up - do more stretches and SLOWLY increase intensity over time. I made the mistake of pulling very hard from the beginning and did that for 4 months when I started stretching. Because of that, I may have caused fibrosis in my ligaments, which basically means they may be permanently too tough to gain anymore length. Start out with a fraction of the DLD newbie routine then gradually work you way up to the full routine - best if it's broken down throughout the day.
2. Don't start pumping or clamping until you have the length you want.
Pumping and clamping creates fibrosis of this dorsal ligament, making it thicker and less pronounced and hindering your length gains. Do your length work first, get to where you want to be length wise, then add the girth. Jelqing is okay to be doing while working length. You shouldn't be doing anything too intense girth wise until you are at the length you desire.
3. Hanging and stretching with weights should not be done until you have completely exhausted your gains from manuals.
When you start adding weights for stretching, the ligaments toughen up that much quicker. Then you need to drastically increase weight just to get into the gain zone. Once your ligaments have toughened up, chances of you being able to gain more length are very slim.
Extenders are okay to use after manuals but only at lowest tension. IRSPow mentioned something about this in one of his posts, along the lines of subjects being tested with extenders gained more during the first portion with lowest tension and less in the latter portion with higher tension. It is ideal to take off the extender every 1.5-2 hours for a bit. Also, he said the best type of extenders are ones that fit over the head (like the Penimaster Pro), as they are the least damaging to the penis.
He explained to me that the pigmentation in my penis (discoloration) is from excessive Penis Enlargementing (pumping in my case). He explained that they are iron deposits in the blood, and they are also internally in my penis throughout, not just on the surface. He explained that the iron blocks the cells from properly healing, cells carry a certain kind of energy to help replenish and the iron deposits block this energy. I'm not 100% sure of his scientific explanation, but basically he told me this is bad when you are trying to get length gains. It's okay to pump and such when working girth only, but it will plateau your length very quickly. He prescribed me a topical cream called Verapamil to be applied 3-4 times daily on the top and sides of the penis, mostly along the dorsal ligament. He said this will help reverse the fibrosis and soften up the ligament and also help with the discoloration.
On a side note, I went to a urologist a week before. He was utterly useless to me, but he did not happen to note the discoloration of my penis, but right away the doctor I saw today noticed the discoloration and knew what it was.
I asked him about wrapping ie Uncle Jim's Wrap. He said that wrapping tight is not a good idea and can cause the pigmentation/iron deposits. I'm going to purchase a divosuit to see how tight it fits but I will probably only be using the PeniMaster Pro after manuals. I will not be using my Bathmate until I am at my desired length.
I read in the book "Exercising the Penis" by Aarom Kemmer (alias Remek on these Penis Enlargement forums). It described "the gain zone" in the book. This is basically body "clues" tell you that you are in gaining zone. The clues are no pain when exercising, ability to have strong erections throughout day, and nightly/morning erections. I asked the doctor about all night wrapping/stretching and he explained that when your penis is healthy and you are basically in the gain zone (he did not use that phrase) you will have erections throughout the night, and those are enough to keep the size for gaining.
ANOTHER THING I DID WRONG: After girth work, I would tie off with a bathrobe cord to keep the pump. Same idea as a cock ring. This is bad for the dorsal ligament and limits ability to gain with length. So I will also be cutting that out altogether.
He agreed that it is best to stick to a routine that you are gaining on as long as you can.
He agreed that warm ups are important and warm downs can be beneficial. I also asked about "cool downs" and he suggested that they might help "lock" in gains from stretching, so long as you are manually pulling your penis out in a stretch as you cool it off.
He told me the majority of stretching should be down in the down direction (all angles), but other directions such as straight out and straight up are important to do as well. He told me the more angles the better.
He told me PC exercises are just as if not more important than the actual enlargement exercises because the ability to have strong erections and last during intercourse is as important as the size. I agree with him to a degree, but I think size is always important. He suggested that I do more PC exercises for EQ, which in turn will help gains, because I will be getting more erections throughout the day and night, harder ones that last longer, which is key for gaining.
L-lysine throughout the day on an empty stomach is a good idea.
This is pretty much all I can remember from the appointment.
I am basically going to start LIGHT stretching, maybe 5 minutes per session, a couple times a day and work my way up to doing the DLD newbie routine in it's entirety once or twice a day, or broken up. Extending after the length sessions with SG extender (and will get Penimaster Pro upgrade). Bathmate is going on the shelf to collect dust. I will still be jelqing. I will start at 300 jelqs, add 5-10 per night, then if he advises, I will incorporate more advanced manual girth exercises into my nighttime girth routine. But right now I am concerned with length. WHen I was pumping, I got my penis to 7.5" erect girth (from 5.8") the morning after the workout. But these temporary gains are superficial and a lot of the gain is fluid between the skin and core of the penis.
I AM NOT SAYING PUMPING IS NOT GOOD. I STILL INTEND TO PUMP, CLAMP, AND TIE OFF MY Penis EnlargementNIS, BUT ONLY WHEN I HAVE DESIRED/PLATEAUED LENGTH. I have gotten good results from pumping. But what good is a short and fat penis?
I have writers block now. I'm sure more things will come to me in the future from what he taught me, but this is all I can recite at this point. If you have any questions, post them here or PM and I'll try my best to remember them or I'll write them down to ask the doctor next time I speak with him.
One last thing, check this out:
http://www.chempe.com/2010/04/injections.html?zx=c5c0dabbfb097f72
This guy is onto something. This is worth considering.
