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By the way my last post isnt a dig at all the intelligent contributers to the thread so far. I just meant that after all the discussion about it seems that the fad has passed, interest on the board has died, and things havent been taken any further in a practical way to try and make the procedure available to those willing enough to determine whether it is a viable means of cock enhancement.

So basically to those who know, is it possible to get all the neccesary substances together for self administration...long shot i know but damn those gains look good!
 
Some people are still persuing it... I finally got my Quadmix and still waiting for my Potaba and DHT Gel. Once i have everything together, i'll work out a protocol and start.
 
Dogg you got balls man an you got my full respect . So your just waiting for one last ingredient to get this thing on the road? How much is it all costing you and how long is your supply fixed for? Was it easy enough to get what you needed once you found the sources? One last q, will you be injected it into your dick? thanks
 
It's prolly going to cost me close to $2,000... I plan on doing it for 4 months to start, but may do a second 6-month cycle if it works out well. Some things are easier to get then others... it's not that easy to get or i would have started already.

Yes, i do plan on injecting my dick... the doctor that prescribed me the quadmix gave me a sample injection and it was totally painless. The sample dose was suppsed to be very weak, just enough to see how i react to it... i got a 70% erection with 5 minutes that lasted about half an hour. My erection dropped to around 40% for another 2-2.5 hours. I was surprised at my results since i took a couple of Sudafeds to reduce the effects of any meds i was given. The doctor said that my prescription is much much stronger than the sample dose and is guarenteed to get me 100% erect for 45 minutes to an hour.

My dick felt real sore after like what it feels like after a super intense girth routine. My girth was maxed out with no signs of bloat at all. My flaccid hang was massive that even my wife was very surprised when she saw it. I was really surprised that just an erection alone could cause that kind of soreness.
 
Steep costs....but worth it for the gains you'll get...Good luck with everything dude.. I hope you get some fuck-off gains with it and things are smooth. I like how you sprang into action on this so fast, no fuckin aboutrofl... What did you tell your doc about what you wanted it for? The dont prescribe jack shit over hear unless its 100% legit and neccasary with sound medical proof...maybe i shuold change my doctor. And did the other chems you got have to prescribed by the doc or are they availble over the net, i know portaba is? Sounds like your getting some quality shit from the sounds of it.

Soz about all the q's by the way. So did your doc give a daily limit on how much you can shoot into your dick and will you be shooting it more than once/an hour a day for like 3 or 4 hours... I knows its best to keep it low to start with but if it was me i'd probably get carried away and shot for 2-4 hours a day.
 
sikdogg said:
It's prolly going to cost me close to $2,000... I plan on doing it for 4 months to start, but may do a second 6-month cycle if it works out well. Some things are easier to get then others... it's not that easy to get or i would have started already.

Yes, i do plan on injecting my dick... the doctor that prescribed me the quadmix gave me a sample injection and it was totally painless. The sample dose was suppsed to be very weak, just enough to see how i react to it... i got a 70% erection with 5 minutes that lasted about half an hour. My erection dropped to around 40% for another 2-2.5 hours. I was surprised at my results since i took a couple of Sudafeds to reduce the effects of any meds i was given. The doctor said that my prescription is much much stronger than the sample dose and is guarenteed to get me 100% erect for 45 minutes to an hour.

My dick felt real sore after like what it feels like after a super intense girth routine. My girth was maxed out with no signs of bloat at all. My flaccid hang was massive that even my wife was very surprised when she saw it. I was really surprised that just an erection alone could cause that kind of soreness.
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hey sikdogg, if you need help to keep you hard for longer check out BTCs site mynewsize.com and get the sheaths. they are really stretchy, ive been wearing them today (in an effort to keep me 40%+ erect) they work pretty good cos they are so stretchy. p.s. keep us posted on here - cant wait to see how this goes!!
 
Thanks for the idea... but since i'm going to be using an injectable vasodilator, i won't have much need for a sheath or any other constricting device.

My issue with sheaths or cockrings is that if worn over a long period of time, they are bad if they are worn tight enough to maintain a firm erection with no stimulation. They don't allow blood flow so after 20 minutes or so, you may start to experience ischemia (cell death). By using a vasodilator to maintain an erection without constriction, you are able to go much longer times (hours) erect without experiencing ischemia as long as your erection level is less than 90%.
 
i agree, i wouldnt wear it tight enough to maintain an erection for a long period of time. the sheaths are tight enough to put a tiny bit of pressure around the penis. they dont cut off circulation because my penis stays warm throughout wearing them. obviously the injectable vasodilators would be my first choice :D
 
You can get Bremelanotide (PT-141) from IBE in two forms... a nasal spay or an injectable. $65 for 5mg... the nasal spray requires a dose of about 1mg to be effective but the injectable works with less. At $13 per dose + shipping, it's not the cheapest...
 
Dogg are you going to be using the potassium p-aminobenzoate powder? I was also wondering, is this only taken on days when you use the vasilodators?
 
I´m glad this thread didn´t die cause I think the procedure has a lot of potential when it comes to penis enlargement.
Anyway,I´m on prostaglandin injections myself for the last 5 weeks.In addition to this I´m injecting 500mg of testosteron a week.
About the prostaglandin inj.,they are not painful and they give me an erection within 5 minutes.
I wear a flexible cockring for 3 to 4 hours that keeps me between 75-90% erect for 2 hours.Sometimes I masturbate for another hour and sometimes I just let the erection go down to 40% for the next 1.5 to 2 hours.I hope that´s enough.
Like Skidogg said it gives you an amazing workout and my dick feels really sore afterwards.
I plan to stay on it for at least 6 months and hope to gain 0.75 to 1 inch in that time.
I could swear I already gained but I´m not gonna measure for the next 2 months.
If you guys have any questions, feel free to ask.
 
How you doing with the test large1? What are the benefits and side effects your getting, if any. What test are you using and how long have you been on it for?
 
large1 said:
I´m glad this thread didn´t die cause I think the procedure has a lot of potential when it comes to penis enlargement.
Anyway,I´m on prostaglandin injections myself for the last 5 weeks.In addition to this I´m injecting 500mg of testosteron a week.
About the prostaglandin inj.,they are not painful and they give me an erection within 5 minutes.
I wear a flexible cockring for 3 to 4 hours that keeps me between 75-90% erect for 2 hours.Sometimes I masturbate for another hour and sometimes I just let the erection go down to 40% for the next 1.5 to 2 hours.I hope that´s enough.
Like Skidogg said it gives you an amazing workout and my dick feels really sore afterwards.
I plan to stay on it for at least 6 months and hope to gain 0.75 to 1 inch in that time.
I could swear I already gained but I´m not gonna measure for the next 2 months.
If you guys have any questions, feel free to ask.
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That's great bro... keep us posted on your results. I'm starting in a couple more weeks.
 
The testosteron I use is enanthate,which is a long term ester.Like I said I inject it once a week.I´ve been on testosteron for 6 months before and don´t have any sides except of an increased libido:)
I inject the prostaglandin every other day.The response to it is different.Yesterday for example was insane!
I had a hardon for 2.5 hours (at almost 100%) and sometimes it´s just 50% erect for like 3 hours.
I hope those 50% are still enough to gain.
Hey sikdogg you have to wear a flexible rubber cockring.The feeling is just great.Just remove it after every half hour for a couple of minutes.
Sometimes I wear a tight one around the base and sometimes a bigger one around my balls.
When my erection starts to fade away after 2 hours or so I sometimes wear both cockrings.
My night and morning erections are crazy hard so I don´t think it´s too much.
 
Hey Large 1. So you can still get 2 hour boners on prostaglandin? I think that might still be good enough to cause growth in the long run. Do you inject it into your dick directly?
 
sikdogg said:
That was a good find Fuzzy...

It's actually pretty simple process. What they do is inject some type of vasodilator (or a combination of prostaglandin E1, Atropine, Chlorpromazine and Papavarine) into the penis to encourage an erection lasting 3-5 hours. They also use a potentiator (either DHT orally or subcutaneously in the penis, test injections sucutaneously in the penis, or potassium aminobenzoate orally) in conjunction with the vaso treatment. They did this 2 to 4 times a week for 4 to six months and got great results.... between .6" to over 1" in length over the treatment period. Girth gains were also significant but not as well documented in the patent application.
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Sikdogg did you manage to source all the stuff you mentioned in this thread, and which ones did you get without prescription? i take it you know abit about making chemical solutions, correct quantities etc?
 
large1 said:
The testosteron I use is enanthate,which is a long term ester.Like I said I inject it once a week.I´ve been on testosteron for 6 months before and don´t have any sides except of an increased libido:)
I inject the prostaglandin every other day.The response to it is different.Yesterday for example was insane!
I had a hardon for 2.5 hours (at almost 100%) and sometimes it´s just 50% erect for like 3 hours.
I hope those 50% are still enough to gain.
Hey sikdogg you have to wear a flexible rubber cockring.The feeling is just great.Just remove it after every half hour for a couple of minutes.
Sometimes I wear a tight one around the base and sometimes a bigger one around my balls.
When my erection starts to fade away after 2 hours or so I sometimes wear both cockrings.
My night and morning erections are crazy hard so I don´t think it´s too much.
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According to the patent document, you should gain as long as you keep an erection for 4-6 hours at 40-90% erect. What you don't want to do is keep an erection of >90% for more than 2-3 hours to be safe.
 
jaypes said:
Sikdogg did you manage to source all the stuff you mentioned in this thread, and which ones did you get without prescription? i take it you know abit about making chemical solutions, correct quantities etc?
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I was able to get a script for the Quadmix and found powder sources for both DHT and Potaba. I could brew my own solution but prefer to get the real deal in each case. This is what's holding me up... if i just bought powders and brewed, i'd already be running it.
 
The prostaglandin is injected directly into the dick.Injected correctly it´s giving you an instant boner that sometimes lasts for 2 hours.If you don´t inject deep enough you will experiment some pain in your dick.
By the way,I live in Germany and the prostaglandin supply for 2 months cost me about 200 bucks.
The potaba another 50 bucks.So,it´s not that expensive.I don´t know if you need DHT when you inject testosteron.
 
large1 said:
By the way,I live in Germany .
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Oh Welcome;

Bist du irgendwo im M.o.S deutschland oder Penis Dicke angemeldet :)

Ich werde diese Methode demnaechst auch anwenden.....

Viel Glueck !
 
Hi Shadus!:)
Bin nirgendwo sonst angemeldet.Viel Glück mit der Methode.Sie ist meine letzte Hoffnung noch 3 bis 4 cm draufzukriegen.
Hab ein sehr gutes Gefühl dabei.
 
Today I started doing some erect stretches on prostaglandin.It´s working great.I did about 40 stretches of 45 seconds.
BTW,I´m having a boner since 1.5 hours again:)
 
large1 said:
...I don´t know if you need DHT when you inject testosteron.
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You probably don't, but in theory DHT should work better. I speculate that testosterone doesn't have much direct effect on penile tissues but instead works thru it's conversion to DHT. DHT is the most androgenic hormone and has a direct connection with libido and male traits.

Since you are injecting test systemically, the effects on your penis will be less pronounced than if you injected sub-q into the penis as was done on the Penis Enlargement Patent.

If you think you're making gains though... don't change your protocol. Let's see how this works for you. I'm surely interested to see your results and hope you grow a monster between your legs. ;)
 
Hey Dogg i contacted boston medical group today. They were talking about there being about 50 different types of treatment for ED or Penis Enlargement ?:( How did you get them to give you the quadmix you wanted?
 
Romanemp said:
Hey Dogg i contacted boston medical group today. They were talking about there being about 50 different types of treatment for ED or Penis Enlargement ?:( How did you get them to give you the quadmix you wanted?
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Yes that's what they say but the only option they will offer you once you go to your appointment is an injectable vasodilator (trimix or quadmix). I don't know of anyone who's gone to Boston Med and was offered a option other than an injectable vaso...
 
Hey sikdogg!
I hope we grow monsters between our legs,too.I mean,come on,this self injecting into our wangs has to pay off.
It´s nearly impossible to get DHT in Germany as much as I know.They sell DHT cream in France but not without a script.<:(
Anyway,did you already start?Hope to hear from your gains,too.
 
hey large1 i think if you stick to the patent info (maintain a 40-90% erection for 3-6 hours) then you are sure to gain :) it would be nice to hear of results from this rofl
 
I´ll keep you informed about my gains.Like I said,I´m not gonna measure for the next 2 or 3 months so I won´t be disappointed.
 
Something´s happening.That´s for sure!I´m into my 9th week and I can feel that it´s much girthier.
The length seems to increase,too.Yesterday I only did half the dose I normally do and it was 100% erect for 2 hours and about 60% for the 3rd hour.
I sometimes awake in the middle of the night with what I would call an erection of steel.The same in the morning.
You know what?I really start to like that shit and I´m planning to do it for a year and see what happens.
It´s just so much fun running around with a boner for 3-4 hours day:)
The prostaglandin is worth a fortune!!!
I´m doing erect exercises like stretching,squeezing,jelqing for 1 to 1.5 hours a day.Hope this helps to gain 2 more inches in length.
 
large1 said:
The testosteron I use is enanthate,which is a long term ester.Like I said I inject it once a week.I´ve been on testosteron for 6 months before and don´t have any sides except of an increased libido:)
I inject the prostaglandin every other day.The response to it is different.Yesterday for example was insane!
I had a hardon for 2.5 hours (at almost 100%) and sometimes it´s just 50% erect for like 3 hours.
I hope those 50% are still enough to gain.
Hey sikdogg you have to wear a flexible rubber cockring.The feeling is just great.Just remove it after every half hour for a couple of minutes.
Sometimes I wear a tight one around the base and sometimes a bigger one around my balls.
When my erection starts to fade away after 2 hours or so I sometimes wear both cockrings.
My night and morning erections are crazy hard so I don´t think it´s too much.
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That's crazy. Are you on permanent hormone replacement therapy? Even if you were those doses are way to high. Are you taking anything to deal with the testicular atrophy or possible estrogen effects? Are you monitoring your bloodwork while doing this?

Even discounting the rest of what you are doing, the hormone regimen alone sounds irresponsible.
 
Essex said:
That's crazy. Are you on permanent hormone replacement therapy? Even if you were those doses are way to high. Are you taking anything to deal with the testicular atrophy or possible estrogen effects? Are you monitoring your bloodwork while doing this?
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How do you know what his doses are?? he didn't specify in the post that you quoted... Testicular atrophy is not a big deal, especially if he's on TRT. It's only temporary and a little hcg will resolve it within a week or two... As long as his libido is strong, estrogen is most probably not an issue. When estrogen gets too high or too low, libido is impacted pretty quick. I believe that most people are too afraid of estrogen that they squash it for no reason or lack of knowledge. Doing so creates problems with lipids... one's test to estro ratio must be in balance. if test levels go up, you must expect estro to rise also.

Even discounting the rest of what you are doing, the hormone regimen alone sounds irresponsible.
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i disagree...
 
sikdogg said:
How do you know what his doses are?? he didn't specify in the post that you quoted... Testicular atrophy is not a big deal, especially if he's on TRT. It's only temporary and a little hcg will resolve it within a week or two... As long as his libido is strong, estrogen is most probably not an issue. When estrogen gets too high or too low, libido is impacted pretty quick. I believe that most people are too afraid of estrogen that they squash it for no reason or lack of knowledge. Doing so creates problems with lipids... one's test to estro ratio must be in balance. if test levels go up, you must expect estro to rise also.


i disagree...
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He wrote "Anyway,I´m on prostaglandin injections myself for the last 5 weeks.In addition to this I´m injecting 500mg of testosteron a week."

For six months?

Have you ever taken AS?

The threat of estrogen related sides, such as gynoclemestia (bitch tits) is very real. Without any anti estogen compounds on hand such as tamoxifen or letrizole how will he deal with such a happenstance.

I also think you minimize the potential negative ramifications of testicular atrophy. I've heard of very young men having to put themselves on permanent HRT because of misuse. Ideally HCG should be used while cycling. What is easier to recover from after you stop injecting testosterone. Shrunken balls or no shrunken balls?

Finally how would he know his lipids unless he's doing regular blood testing which is why I asked. Did he do one beforehand to have a baseline?

I think you are doing him a disservice by minimizing the potential dangers. He doesn't appear to have given it sufficient forethought to embark on such a cycle. Even BBers generally try to limit cycles to no longer than 3 months as a rule of thumb. With at least three months off with proper post cycle therapy before they undertake another.
 
Essex said:
He wrote "Anyway,I´m on prostaglandin injections myself for the last 5 weeks.In addition to this I´m injecting 500mg of testosteron a week."

For six months?
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500mg per week is a relatively small dose, but 6 months is a pretty long cycle. As long as he's taking the correct measures, he'll be fine. At 500mg per week, there really isn't that much risk of estro side like gyno unless he's one of the unlucky guys that is predisposed to it. i don't fault you or anyone for asking what you asked but the fact is that he's a grown man and has made a decision to do what he did. Right or wrong, he will have to live with any repercussions.

Have you ever taken AS?
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Yes many times and at much higher doses than 500mg per week.

The threat of estrogen related sides, such as gynoclemestia (bitch tits) is very real. Without any anti estogen compounds on hand such as tamoxifen or letrizole how will he deal with such a happenstance.
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Yes they are real and possible even at the low dose he's taking, but is it probable?? i say no. I do agree that having anti-e's on hand is a best practice regardless of what AAS you take...

I also think you minimize the potential negative ramifications of testicular atrophy. I've heard of very young men having to put themselves on permanent HRT because of misuse. Ideally HCG should be used while cycling. What is easier to recover from after you stop injecting testosterone. Shrunken balls or no shrunken balls?
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The fact is that in most cases, guys will recover fine once they stop taking gear. Full recovery may take longer without hcg but he will in most likelyhood recover fine. Most guys on gear don't take hcg when on cycle and recover fine... again, at the doses he's taking, most gear vets won't even recommend hcg. They'll say it's agood idea, but not necessary at that dose.

Finally how would he know his lipids unless he's doing regular blood testing which is why I asked. Did he do one beforehand to have a baseline?
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I can't answer that question and it's good that you asked... but generally speaking, low dose test cycles don't impact lipids that much unless they take an AI and drive estro levels too low or if they are stacking it with a 17-aa hormone along the lines of sdrol or M1t. Dbol doesn't even imact lipids much at all.

I think you are doing him a disservice by minimizing the potential dangers. He doesn't appear to have given it sufficient forethought to embark on such a cycle. Even BBers generally try to limit cycles to no longer than 3 months as a rule of thumb. With at least three months off with proper post cycle therapy before they undertake another.
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I speak from alot of personal experience and from research... go read my posts on BB.com or AM, i know what i'm talking about. I commend you for bringing up the points that you did but in the end, the potential dangers that you speak of are minimal at the doses he's taking. For the record.... all we can do is give advice, what someone does with it is up to him and if he fucks himself up... that's his problem. I always assume that if a person is will to take the risk of doing a cycle, he's well aware if the potential sides. If he's ok with it, then so am i... I don't say i told you so nor do i condemn anyone for making mistakes. If you're man enough to do this, then you're man enough to live with the consequences.
 
I´ve been on AS a lot of times before.Like I said,I never experienced any sides from those doses.But I never took more then 500mgs a week.
And I had a blood test 2 weeks ago,and anything was fine!
Even when I stopped taking steroids after 6 months it only took me about 3 to 4 weeks to get my balls back to normal size and I never had a crushdown in libido.
I have been intersted in steroids since I was 16 and I read a whole bunch of books about it,so I think I know exactly what I´m doing.
This thread should not be seen as an offense to anyone!
BTW,bodybuilders are on steroids almost nonstop for years nowadays.Those 6 week cycles are the past.
And testosteron is non toxic at all and can be seen as the safest AS after primobolan.
 
...bump...

so, dogg and large1 what's new with your work??

anyone have any advice on buying Aprostadil (pge1) or an Intr cav mix in Canada.

I'm considering going to the doc but I'm not too sure my idea will go over too well.
 
sikdogg said:
If you don't want to up the dose, you could try taking it with viagra/cialis to enhance the effects...

You could also try something like Melanotan II with it. Melanotan II is used for tanning but the side effects are an increase in libido and/or frequent and long erections. It is an injectable but it is not to be injected into the penis. You inject it sub-q in the belly area or it can be injected IM.
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That shits still in research stages is it not? bit off topic i aint even read the whole thread yet.
 
Read Whole Thread Now And Curious About Gains. I Got Alot Of Black MArket Hookups I Know I Could Get This Stuff If It Works, Wondering If Results Could Be Amplified More With HGH....
 
Muscle Reasearch, which is a supplier of IFG1 LR3 is having a 40% off sale on that product. To get this discount, simply type in 40off into the coupon section of the purchase form.

There sale is posted publicly on one of the muscle boards, so there seems to be no ethical issues in my informing the group of this sale.

The shelf life of their IGF1-LR3 is claimed to be at least 2 years. This time frame does include the time that it has been on their shelves and so total life span cannot be calculated, but it does seem that a member wishing to use this method of Penis Enlargement would save considerably by purchasing the IGF now.

Suggested dosing for the use of IGF as per the information on this board is 20mcg. The only size offered from Muscle Research is 1 mg (1,000 mcg). So, one bottle would yield 50 injections. Using that figure it would appear that two bottles would take care of a normal Penis Enlargement effort.

Mixing, and injecting instructions can be found by using the link on the muscle research board.
 
I've done business with muscle-research in the past and they sell a good product, but even at 40% off it's still over priced. There's at least one research chem supplier that sells LR3 IGF-1 for $100 per mg. That's not a sale price but his regular price...
 
sikdogg said:
Let's put that in perspective... for every gram that you consume, you will be consuming 990mg of potaba and 10mg of impurities. Do you honestly believe that most of the supplements that you by off the shelf is better than 99% pure?? You could eat 100mg of dirt and it wouldn't do squat.
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10mg of a solvent impurity such as hexane or chloroform could do serious damage if carried out daily for four months.
 
So basically all we've got to do here is maintain an erection of at least 65%+ for about 3 hours daily? or have I got that completely wrong? rofl
 
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