Price is definitely another consideration. The higher you go over $100, the more potential business you lose.
 
gayron36;603505 said:
Price is definitely another consideration. The higher you go over $100, the more potential business you lose.
Not if the product is of extremely high quality and therefore seen to be worth the expense. Look at any expensive high-end product- Louis-Vuitton, Remy Martin cognac, Volcano vaporizers, Mercedes-Benz, fucking Samsung and Apple smartphones, literally any medical procedure... you get the picture. Do you think any of those companies are losing business just because they charge alot? Hell no. They're rolling in dough. So if Dld and Lightning and their design team can come up with the Mercedes of extenders then people will pay just about any price within reason. Now all that being said, I think some companies get a little crazy with their prices mostly out of greed, perhaps even some of the ones I just named. I just hope that this extender is priced right in that sweet spot where Mos makes a decent enough profit and we get an awesome product for a great price. They will sell a ton of units that way and also avoid pissing off or alienating anyone who can't afford it.
 
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marlin1;603439 said:
I would love to try a penimaster pro basic just for hanging at night. Run a cable down over a pulley at foot of bed with a weight attached. Just got my X30 yesterday so I'm a newbie hope to pick up a half inch to inch since I'm average now. Will see if you can teach an old hot dog new tricks LOL as I'm a senior.

Welcome to the Brotherhood Marlin1!
 
i agree the more affordable you can make it the more quickly you will dominate the market. Almost all the PE devices are way overpriced imo. $300-$400 for some plastic. How much markup do you think there is on a bathmate or PF? Probably around 95%. I can't blame them for wanting to make money but it isn't the way I would go to market with a product like this.
 
Exciting News Brothers! We have our preliminary drawings completed and testing components on the way to us! We have an incredibly good concept designed based on all of your feedback.

With the MoS ADS/ANS you will be able to comfortably stretch for extended periods of time for Over 8 Hours in 8 Different Positions using Eighteen Different Tensions ranging from ounces to over 20lbs. All this DISCRETELY under your clothes while standing, sitting, walking, jogging, dancing and sleeping.

The MoS ADS/ANS is a Vacuum Cap/Sleeve based system that will concentrate on stretching the top portion of the penis or the entire shaft of the penis without restricting bloodflow.

It is designed so you can quickly relieve yourself (bathroom break) if needed without having to completely remove it.

You can wear it erect or flaccid without the worry of it falling off.

It will accommodate a wide range of penis girths ranging from
Circumferences of 2.35" (60mm) to 7.1" (180mm) or
Widths of 3/4" (19mm) to 2-1/4" (57mm)

It will accommodate a minimal flaccid or erect length of 2" up to any length.

It will help correct curved penises by maintaining a constant straight stretch.

It will help expand the head (glans) of your penis to help achieve a mushroom head if desired.

People uncut and circumcised can wear this system.

You can comfortably stretch in the following Eight (8) different positions including:

Stretch to the Left
Stretch to the Right
Stretch Down Left Leg
Stretch Down Right Leg
Stretch Down and between the cheeks
Stretch Up
Stretch Up Towards Left Shoulder
Stretch Up Towards Right Shoulder

There are Eighteen (18) different stretching tensions ranging from a couple ounces (Beginner) to over 20lbs (Advanced).

You can hang weights from this as well but don't need to.

You can wear it on the plane (minimal metal parts) ;).

It will come with a 5 year warranty against defective parts (wear and tear parts guaranteed for 5 years)

More updates to come, stay involved!
 
LIGHTNING;603556 said:
Exciting News Brothers! We have our preliminary drawings completed and testing components on the way to us! We have an incredibly good concept designed based on all of your feedback.

With the MoS ADS/ANS you will be able to comfortably stretch for extended periods of time for over 8 hours in Eight (8) positions using Eighteen (18) different stretching tensions ranging from ounces to over 20lbs. All this DISCRETELY under your clothes while standing, sitting, walking, jogging, dancing and sleeping.

The MoS ADS/ANS is a Vacuum Cap/Sleeve based system that will concentrate on stretching the top portion of the penis or the entire shaft of the penis without restricting bloodflow.

It is designed so you can quickly relieve yourself (bathroom break) if needed without having to completely remove it.

You can wear it erect or flaccid without the worry of it falling off.

It will accommodate a wide range of penis girths ranging from
Circumferences of 2.35" (60mm) to 7.1" (180mm) or
Widths of 3/4" (19mm) to 2-1/4" (57mm)

It will accommodate a minimal flaccid or erect length of 2" up to any length.

It will help correct curved penises by maintaining a constant straight stretch.

It will help expand the head (glans) of your penis to help achieve a mushroom head if desired.

People uncut and circumcised can wear this system.

You can comfortably stretch in the following Eight (8) different positions including:

Stretch to the Left
Stretch to the Right
Stretch Down Left Leg
Stretch Down Right Leg
Stretch Down and between the cheeks
Stretch Up
Stretch Up Towards Left Shoulder
Stretch Up Towards Right Shoulder

There are Eighteen (18) different stretching tensions ranging from a couple ounces (Beginner) to over 20lbs (Advanced).

You can hang weights from this as well but don't need to.

You can wear it on the plane (minimal metal parts) ;).

It will come with a 5 year warranty against defective parts (wear and tear parts guaranteed for 5 years)

More updates to come, stay involved!

Will it also make my breakfast??? WOW this sounds amazing!!!

Up to 20 lbs of tension and concealable??? and that stretches in that many directions??? HOLY SHIT!!! CAN"T WAIT FOR THIS!!!!!! I cant get over how awesome this sounds!!! 5 year warranty!!!

OMG!!!! that's the first time i've ever used OMG...glad i saved it for now
 
LIGHTNING;603556 said:
Exciting News Brothers! We have our preliminary drawings completed and testing components on the way to us! We have an incredibly good concept designed based on all of your feedback.

With the MoS ADS/ANS you will be able to comfortably stretch for extended periods of time for Over 8 Hours in 8 Different Positions using Eighteen Different Tensions ranging from ounces to over 20lbs. All this DISCRETELY under your clothes while standing, sitting, walking, jogging, dancing and sleeping.

The MoS ADS/ANS is a Vacuum Cap/Sleeve based system that will concentrate on stretching the top portion of the penis or the entire shaft of the penis without restricting bloodflow.

It is designed so you can quickly relieve yourself (bathroom break) if needed without having to completely remove it.

You can wear it erect or flaccid without the worry of it falling off.

It will accommodate a wide range of penis girths ranging from
Circumferences of 2.35" (60mm) to 7.1" (180mm) or
Widths of 3/4" (19mm) to 2-1/4" (57mm)

It will accommodate a minimal flaccid or erect length of 2" up to any length.

It will help correct curved penises by maintaining a constant straight stretch.

It will help expand the head (glans) of your penis to help achieve a mushroom head if desired.

People uncut and circumcised can wear this system.

You can comfortably stretch in the following Eight (8) different positions including:

Stretch to the Left
Stretch to the Right
Stretch Down Left Leg
Stretch Down Right Leg
Stretch Down and between the cheeks
Stretch Up
Stretch Up Towards Left Shoulder
Stretch Up Towards Right Shoulder

There are Eighteen (18) different stretching tensions ranging from a couple ounces (Beginner) to over 20lbs (Advanced).

You can hang weights from this as well but don't need to.

You can wear it on the plane (minimal metal parts) ;).

It will come with a 5 year warranty against defective parts (wear and tear parts guaranteed for 5 years)

More updates to come, stay involved!
You guys are some goddamn evil geniuses when it comes to this shit. Like the Tony Stark of pe, turning mere mortals into Iron Men. Haha. It almost sounds too good to be true. Not that I doubt you guys. Can't wait till this thing becomes a reality. I'm sure you guys are probably even more excited than we are.
 
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gayron36;603505 said:
Price is definitely another consideration. The higher you go over $100, the more potential business you lose.

goffenhiemer;603547 said:
i agree the more affordable you can make it the more quickly you will dominate the market. Almost all the PE devices are way overpriced imo. $300-$400 for some plastic. How much markup do you think there is on a bathmate or PF? Probably around 95%. I can't blame them for wanting to make money but it isn't the way I would go to market with a product like this.

I'm guessing it will be priced very fairly. that way they make good money and we get a great product. i am also guessing this tool may be a lil expensive. I wouldn't be surprised to see Phallosan like pricing if it ends up as high quality and result producing as it is being touted. The LM is very fairly priced. Most extenders are way over priced!!!
 
A question, how important is it if it is clear vs a solid color? Do you care if you see your penis in the device vs not seeing it?
 
LIGHTNING;603578 said:
A question, how important is it if it is clear vs a solid color? Do you care if you see your penis in the device vs not seeing it?
I would have to say clear for sure. I love my clear bathmate and would hate to have one of the red or blue ones. I like being able to see everything. But if it's not that expensive maybe you could offer a few different color options like bathmate.
 
LIGHTNING;603578 said:
A question, how important is it if it is clear vs a solid color? Do you care if you see your penis in the device vs not seeing it?

yes i want to see it. My blue BM i can still see my cock but i am only wearing it for a short period of time. If your PE tool can be worn for hours straight I belive it needs to be clear so you can easily tell if the glans is becoming to purple or retaining fluid. Clear for Safety b/c of LONG sessions
 
tb007;603580 said:
I would have to say clear for sure. I love my clear bathmate and would hate to have one of the red or blue ones. I like being able to see everything. But if it's not that expensive maybe you could offer a few different color options like bathmate.

I never understood why people care if they had a blue, red, green, etc. color pump, as they all do the same thing and they aren't for show sitting on your shelf lol. My question is more based on opaque/solid color vs clear. Is it important to see your penis inside the device?
 
youknowme123321;603581 said:
yes i want to see it. My blue BM i can still see my cock but i am only wearing it for a short period of time. If your PE tool can be worn for hours straight I belive it needs to be clear so you can easily tell if the glans is becoming to purple or retaining fluid. Clear for Safety b/c of LONG sessions

We were aiming for clear due to monitoring the glans area as you mentioned. I just wanted to get other feedback and views.
 
LIGHTNING;603584 said:
We were aiming for clear due to monitoring the glans area as you mentioned. I just wanted to get other feedback and views.

come on be honest!! you were leaning towards colorful b/c you have style
 
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Clear so you can tell if you're turning purple lol
I'm excited what kind of price range are we looking at?
 
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gayron36;603505 said:
Price is definitely another consideration. The higher you go over $100, the more potential business you lose.

acromegaly;603591 said:
Clear so you can tell if you're turning purple lol
I'm excited what kind of price range are we looking at?

one millions dollars.
 
All manufacturers product pricing is based off research and development costs, drawings, molds, prototyping, parts, assembly, packaging, warranty for replacements, overhead, marketing, projected sales, shelf-time, distribution costs, etc. Molds cost $20-$30k each to make. Not to mention medical approvals, insurances incase a customer gets injured, etc. Then there are minimum quantities required to produce that is invested money that may sit on your shelf for a long time, it is all a chance you take as a manufacturer.

So you have the choice of spending $15,000.00 for a penis enlargement surgery procedure and gain a 1/4" inch or spend a few hundred dollars on a device that does the same or better or spend $10 at a hardware store and make a solution for yourself that may or may not work. Everyone has options.
 
ill test it out im a committed mofo as in manual labor 3 hours or more of my day id love to have equipment do most of the work for ime
 
tb007;603564 said:
You guys are some goddamn geniuses when it comes to this shit. Like the Tony Stark of pe, turning mere mortals into Iron Men. Haha. It almost sounds too good to be true. Not that I doubt you guys. Can't wait till this thing becomes a reality. I'm sure you guys are probably even more excited than we are.

Thanks, we are super excited. I can't wait to start wearing mine!
 
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