This thread has a lot of good information and I really enjoyed reading it. It was from Jan. so Im wondering if PainForGains has made any progress? Working 7 days a weeks which one is like 2 days so 8 freakin days a week applause for u sir. I couldnt do that. With that much dedication I dont see how u wouldnt make it 3" in a year if time allowed it.

Im not very qualified with gains yet to give much advice, but I do read the forums everyday and I have a pretty good idea on how to get what I want-- as I more than usually do ;)

Id say switch ur routine up. I think u can feel when your penis is getting a good workout. Theres so many things u can do. Ive read with stretching u should always Jelq. DLD has come up with some new Bathmate stretches that are really nice. I did them and I really feel the pull. With that u would be getting the most for ur workout. The Bathmate and stretches? know what I mean. If u added those two things u may get what u want more effectively. Theres no race so do what feels right and try to add what u can over time.

Maybe hanging isnt the best for u because it takes 4 hours at a time with two jobs and family.... well the ADS can be worn under clothes so that may be something that is helpful in ur situation. Also I have made a decent 1/2" gain in less than one month. Maybe around a mm off of a 1/2 inch. Ive only dedicated all my exercises to stretching, Jelqing, edging, 20min Bathmate, kegals, and different pills, and wearing a cock ring off and on. It only takes me at the most 2 hours a day.
 
ownd;378502 said:
i dont really feel any lig pull
Don't worry about that. It isn't necessary to feel anything really. You are trying to coerce tissue to grow by making it want to reduce the stress it is experiencing. In fact, I think the ultimate dick stretcher is more akin to the static medium if you had the tenacity to wear it 24/7. I couldn't. In time you will feel aching but this happens after an accumulation of hours.
 
i wore the heavy duty yesterday and after an hour it just slipped out of the head peace and lost suction, for no apparent reason, i redid it and it happened again, first time this happens. any ideas?

also the medium duty i cant seem to figure out how to not lose circulation, mabie im stretching to far out and to tight the straps / wrap?
 
ownd;378605 said:
i wore the heavy duty yesterday and after an hour it just slipped out of the head peace and lost suction, for no apparent reason, i redid it and it happened again, first time this happens. any ideas?
Sounds like a leak: either a hole in the tubing or the plug slipped. Put some vaseline on the hole before applying the plug, check tubing for holes/tears.

ownd;378605 said:
also the medium duty i cant seem to figure out how to not lose circulation, mabie im stretching to far out and to tight the straps / wrap?
I did this early on too. Try loosening the wrap a little each time and then wear it. Eventually you'll know what tightness is effective in gripping and doesn't cut circulation. At that point you can wear it endlessly (if you can tolerate that).
 
Hey everybody (including moregains123),

It's been a while since I last posted on this forum about the SS and wanted to share some info, both to engender answers from moregains123 and others and to also just, well, relay info for reference for SS users.

I have been wearing the HDSS for at least two hours a day every day for 1 month (29 days) as of today. I have been so consistent in using it that I have cemented the habit of wearing it. I wear it between SD and SO (more towards SD). I start at 6 pounds (springs completely compressed) for 1 hour and then reduce the weight down over the rest of the session to 4, then take it off. I have not been doing any other form of Penis Enlargement.

Comments:

1. While I have not measured, it appears that I have made a slight gain in my erect length (2/18ths of an inch?). I "feel" slightly longer. My girth has also, it SEEMS, increased a little. As I have been skeptical about all of this Penis Enlargement thingamajiggy (though not doggedly so) I now feel that I should continue. When all is said and done, I have wasted years of my life doing the "insane" (as defined by Einstein) and expected different results with the same self-destructive behavior (carousing, drinking, etc). What am I going to lose in continuing using the HDSS for another 6 months, no matter how pointless it might be, and see what happens?

2. moregains123 addressed this issue and, lo and behold after only one month, I am experiencing it and don't like it: my base is moving around slightly now (the base of my erect penis is "kinda loosey goosey"). I don't know how else to explain it. I also have some serious turkey neck occurring (I don't necessarily mind this: I was in a peep show booth jacking off to �naked people movies� the other day and there was a Brazzers CFNM Secret DVD in it; this 5 foot guy had at least an BPenis EnlargementL 8" cock and MAJOR, OBSCENE TURKEY NECK, unnaturally so: he is a Penis Enlargementer for sure). For anyone with access to it online (there is no preview for it on www.cfnmsecret.com; it only shows the movie can be accessed with a membership), it's the "Persia, Hunter, Victoria, & Cortney" video. Please let us know where it is if you can find it for free online and start a post for those who want to see the after effects of Penis Enlargement turkey neck-wise. Pretty unbelievable. Anyways...

3. I am now, for sure, going to start a blog or weekly post here with BEFORE pictures (I will now start measuring). I just saw that Kingsnake was made a MOD; awesome. I just looked at his pics and he has CLEAR, UNDOCTORED BEFORE AND AFTER BPenis EnlargementL pics that show severe growth. I want to do the same and "make a big deal about it", so that no one has to ever be skeptical again. But before I do this, I want to make sure that I have covered all bases...

Questions (for moregains, DLD, everybody):

1. It's looking like I have to change my HDSS angle. SO works for me because I can sleep on my side when doing it.
A. Does SO work the suspensatory ligs even a little or is it all tunica?
B. Will I continue the "loosey goosey base" damage and turkey neck damage I have already created or will I, after erect length growth has occurred, have my erection go past my belly button (no lowering of exit point/weakening of base)?
C. While SS is not getting back to me on ANYTHING I email them on, I have the Medium Stretcher parts (including the Static Vac rubber attachment) and was wondering: if I wear the MSS throughout the day and use the HDSS at night, 1. Will this greatly speed up my EL gains? 2. Since the MSS points SD but my HDSS stretching will be SO, will this still lower my exit point, cause the loosey goosey base, etc?

I might have a few more questions but, yeah, there you go!

THANKS EVERYONE!
 
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PainsForGains;381705 said:
While I have not measured, it appears that I have made a slight gain in my erect length (2/18ths of an inch?). I "feel" slightly longer. My girth has also, it SEEMS, increased a little. As I have been skeptical about all of this Penis Enlargement thingamajiggy (though not doggedly so) I now feel that I should continue. When all is said and done, I have wasted years of my life doing the "insane" (as defined by Einstein) and expected different results with the same self-destructive behavior (carousing, drinking, etc). What am I going to lose in continuing using the HDSS for another 6 months, no matter how pointless it might be, and see what happens?
IMO, now you are on to how to Penis Enlargement. Just add it to your life and you will see results. Just like the gym, biceps don't grow overnight.

PainsForGains;381705 said:
moregains123 addressed this issue and, lo and behold after only one month, I am experiencing it and don't like it: my base is moving around slightly now (the base of my erect penis is "kinda loosey goosey"). I don't know how else to explain it. I also have some serious turkey neck occurring (I don't necessarily mind this)
This should start tightening back up as the ligs and other tissues will thicken in response to the stresses. It's one of the bitches of Penis Enlargement, you get length but you also get thickening of connective tissues. (They don't know you want a longer dick - they're just trying to deal.)

PainsForGains;381705 said:
Does SO work the suspensatory ligs even a little or is it all tunica?
No matter what you're always engaging all tissues, ligs and tunica. The difference is you can focus the ligs more intensely, but there's virtually no way to not hit the tunica.

PainsForGains;381705 said:
Will I continue the "loosey goosey base" damage and turkey neck damage I have already created or will I, after erect length growth has occurred, have my erection go past my belly button (no lowering of exit point/weakening of base)?
You're not gaining turkey neck with an 1/8 inch gain using the HDSS. The base allows the testicles to be free and therefore no stress is applied to that skin. What you're seeing is relaxation due to the repeated stress. If it really bothers you, you can use something like the medium unit or a device like the fastsize which holds back the testicle skin. Although I really don't think you need to worry about it. Also, I always try to minimize skin tension so perhaps you should try that too. Maybe you're tightening the skin when you don't need to be.

PainsForGains;381705 said:
If I wear the MSS throughout the day and use the HDSS at night, 1. Will this greatly speed up my EL gains?
I don't know about "greatly" but obviously more is better with these sorts of devices.

PainsForGains;381705 said:
Since the MSS points SD but my HDSS stretching will be SO, will this still lower my exit point, cause the loosey goosey base, etc?
Your exit point will lower from any stretching of the suspensory lig, but remember during an erection the pubic bone causes a wrap effect which usually renders the lowered point somewhat moot.

I can appreciate your desire to create a "tailor-made" dick, but at this stage I'd say you're doing the right thing by making it a part of your life and I wouldn't bite off more than you can commit to. The fastest gains come from consistency and time.
 
moregains,

Thanks a million, as usual, for your insights. Suffice it to say that I want to gain as quickly as possible. "The fastest gains come from consistency and time": I am starting to believe this, and it isn't just with Penis Enlargement. The problem I face is that I assume that two hours a day using the HDSS is only going to make me gain, say, half an inch in a year. I want more. So I am always trying to figure out how to accelerate the process (Who wouldn't?). Using the HDSS is easy now: I just sleep with it and set an alarm if I can't use it during the day.

I'm going to look at the Medium SS tonight; if it truly is easy to use and concealable, I'll start using it daily. That should speed up gains.
 
Are you doing any manual exercises?
 
doublelongdaddy;381746 said:
Are you doing any manual exercises?

No. I want to. I have bathroom breaks at work, about 30 minutes a day to do them at home, etc. What say you, DLD!? I want to accelerate my EL gains (Currently at a solid 7" EL and want to get to 9" in a year).

If I had my druthers and knew it would work, I COULD just do the Newbie Routine 6 days a week (would have to miss Wednesdays) and wear the HDSS for two hours minimum daily. THAT'S more convienent for me than wearing an ADS and then doing the HDSS. Which do you think would work better?
 
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PainsForGains;381760 said:
I want to accelerate my EL gains (Currently at a solid 7" EL and want to get to 9" in a year).
I'm sorry to say that this is a goal you will not reach. That's a huge increase in a short period of time. Dividing a year into 12 months, and 2 inches into 32nds you would need to be adding 5/32+ each month.

You're probably going to wear out your skin faster than grow your dick. This will only result in having to stop and wait for healing. It sounds like you're doing fine. I'd say: Keep it up and focus your mind elsewhere.

Also, a 9" NBPenis EnlargementL is a rather useless dick for 99% of the girls out there. I recommend stopping at every half inch and seeing if that's enough. A half inch is actually a major increase. I'm 8"+ BPenis EnlargementL x 6.25+ MSEG and no girl ever says anything but OMG!
 
You could bring along a sock to work ( a long one) and on bathroom breaks do some sock stretches. They are very intense and maybe 3 sessions of 5 minutes a day will really boost your gains. I think 2" in one year can be done, I did it in 6 months.
 
I was simply basing my comment on the time he's putting in/has available. As I recall, you were doing hardcore Penis Enlargement six to ten hours a day like Bib did.
 
MoreGains123;381785 said:
I was simply basing my comment on the time he's putting in/has available. As I recall, you were doing hardcore Penis Enlargement six to ten hours a day like Bib did.

Yup, I put in hours a day and I did gain with this methodology but later on I started to work smarter in shorter periods of time.
 
doublelongdaddy;381810 said:
Yup, I put in hours a day and I did gain with this methodology but later on I started to work smarter in shorter periods of time.

Ok: I think I have an solution to my "accelerated gains" journey, and it doesn't involve doing extra exercises.

I have a day job M-F, 8-5 and today I brought the HDSS to work and have been wearing it SD (no other choice; down one pant leg for an hour, then the other leg, then back to the first, and so on) for as long as I can take it (between 4 and 5 pounds). There is some pushback at times when I sit (fabric pushing one of the rods back, always trying to get a straight leg angle and sitting at the edge of the seat), but doing this daytime ADS work might be the key to accerlerated gains, since I always do my SO/SD or SO HDSS work at home at night and have only been able to log in two hours a day. Also doing the SD HDSS ADS work adds at least 5 extra hours a day.

moregains:

1. What do you think?
2. Does it matter that I do SD and then SO daily? Should I be sticking to SD when I get home as well?
3. Any added advice?
4. Since i have a small head and hate noose ADS's, is there an alternative device I could wear (I hate the Medium SS and don't want to have to deal with SS Customer Service again)?
 
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PainsForGains;382459 said:
moregains:

1. What do you think?
2. Does it matter that I do SD and then SO daily? Should I be sticking to SD when I get home as well?
3. Any added advice?
4. Since i have a small head and hate noose ADS's, is there an alternative device I could wear (I hate the Medium SS and don't want to have to deal with SS Customer Service again)?
1. As I've said, more is better with these type of devices.
2. I don't think this matters greatly as the tunica is always involved: there is only a difference on lig intensity but I wouldn't worry about it at all.
3. Be careful at work.
4. Never had any issues with their customer service, but I will say the medium takes practice.
 
my gooch area under my balls starts killing me when i wear it with heavy weight for more then an hour or so sometimes.
 
ownd;382835 said:
my gooch area under my balls starts killing me when i wear it with heavy weight for more then an hour or so sometimes.

Try the wet tissue method and I bet this is gone. Wrap wet tissue around the area that has equipment to skin contact.
 
ok ill try it out, i was putting the black rubber wrap around it actually on the base and it was still bothering me just not as much but ill try what you suggested, thank you!
 
just measured in after over a month with my HDSS ruler is now showing 6.25 BPenis EnlargementL thats a .25 increase. I have been thsi size before so it can be just "memmory" so the real test now is to see if i can get to 6.5 because i have never been that size before.
 
ownd;383282 said:
ok ill try it out, i was putting the black rubber wrap around it actually on the base and it was still bothering me just not as much but ill try what you suggested, thank you!
My experience is to either move it around before it starts to bother you, or to use different types of cloth. The issue seems to be the pressure (not unlike bedsore type pressures). If you change the distribution of the pressure by using different materials it seems to make a big difference. I wouldn't use the wraps though, I'd use cloth material like t-shirt, sweatshirt, towels, etc.
 
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