Circulation at heavier weights

I'm having fun with it at the moment. I like hanging and sitting in front of my computer for a few hours, as I used to anyway so now I have something to do. I've been reading a good deal over at T's place and I'm learning a good bit about hanging in the process.

BIB, As the weight increases the hanger needs to sit further back on the shaft, but what about the wrap? Should it stay the same or should it be a bit thicker to provide more padding and avoid slippage? I'm getting near the stage where I'll be hanging 15+ for my fatigue sets, and I was wanting to ensure the utmost safety, because I'm a bit paranoid about the hanger slipping off at heavier weights. What could I do that would ease my mind?

Man, today was a bit of a rough day. I've taken the last three days off, and my circ scar showed it. I've got some bruising right around my circ scar, it doesn't hurt too bad, but it is bruising. I figured it would be like this, but it should be ok in the next day or so to recondition, so no worries. The thing that gets me is how the reaction I get to hanging is so similar when I took a day or so from girth work and how my circ scar reacted is so similar, except that the bruising from girth was all over the shaft and not just around the circ scar. I'm thinking that it's not really bruising but what you talked about BIB a few posts back. It'll be fine in a few hours, but it's really dark this time back and that's why I decided to post on it. Do you have any suggestions as to how I approach the reconditioning?

million,

Yes, I have written about this several times before. I always had a tough time with skin discoloration, coming back after even two days off. That is why I started hanging a couple sets at night, on the weekends. It made it a lot easier to start back on Monday morning with a full schedule of hanging. When you take a day off, if you can hang even one set, at reduced weight, it will help.

The only way to recondition the soft tissues is to do it the same way you originally did. Reduce the weight, and work your way back up. I found that when I did not hang any on the weekends, I could not get back to my Max weight until about Wednesday.

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OK, I see what you are saying now. I'll hang for a few sets today and tomorrow at reduced weight, and maybe this t-vein will go away. I have to think it flared back up because I jumped back into it at 10lbs and moved to 12.5lbs. Not the brightest crayon in the box sometimes. LOL.

BIB, what are your thoughts on Fulcrum hanging??? I'm thinking of changing angles because my LOT has dropped below eight, or so it seems to me. In the past I have used A-stretches with great success when it comes to targeting the tunica and I was wondering what your thoughts were. I really can't hang SO since my gear here at home isn't conducive to SO, but fulcrum would work great, all I need to get is a piece of PVC about 4-5" around and I should be on solid ground. What do you think? Should I also hang a set or two BTC as well???

million,

>BIB, what are your thoughts on Fulcrum hanging??? I'm thinking of changing angles because my LOT has dropped below eight, or so it seems to me. In the past I have used A-stretches with great success when it comes to targeting the tunica and I was wondering what your thoughts were. I really can't hang SO since my gear here at home isn't conducive to SO, but fulcrum would work great, all I need to get is a piece of PVC about 4-5" around and I should be on solid ground. What do you think?<

I never tried fulcrum hanging for gains, mainlly because I did not need to. I reached my goals with simple straightforward stress. But I do see the benefit that could come from it. Namely, dividing and conquering the tough collagenous fibers of the tunica, by placing uneven pressure on the top or bottom, or even each side of the tunica, by way of a gentle bend. Therefore, the stress placed on the targeted portion of the tunica will be greater, and make it easier to form microtears.

I did experiment with fulcrum hanging, within the last year or two, and found that it could be very intense. Especially for tough gainers, I believe it could be very valuable.

>Should I also hang a set or two BTC as well???<

Surely. You want to pop out the crinellations formed in the ligs subsequent to healing. This will allow the tissues to heal in their new extended state.

But later, you will want to return to the lower angles, and hit the ligs again. They should decondition while you are working the upper angles.

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OK, I am going to try a few fulcrum sets and see how it feels, and I'm going to take this very easy, maybe go as low as 2.6 lbs to start. I'm going to try to avoid the burising I had the other day, and hopefully I can recondition quickly. The biggest reason for the change is I've noticed that my ligs seem to receive less and less stress as I've gone throught the last few weeks, and it took an extreme angle (leaning way back in my chair) to feel any load on any of the structures and I mainly felt it in what I think is the tunica, as my ligs usually tingle when they are under stress during my sets. I'll definitely add in a set or two of BTC towards the end of my sets each session. I'm going to do my best to avoid taking any breaks unless it is absolutely necessary. I'm so close to being done, and I'm just really ready to be done with length work. Thanks again for the help.

BIB, if time permits what would you say would be a good time frame to shoot for??? I know this question has been asked before, but I have a half an inch to go, and would like to get through in a short amount of time.

DUDE!!! I found the perfect fulcrum. During my session I decided to try and use the PA for my fulcrum hanging and it works brilliantly. I'm glad I thought of it. It was a little tricky getting the hanger on when I had to be pulled through the hole, but once I got attached and situated the session went smoothly, and I didn't have to worry about the fulcrum rolling or altering positions during the session. It's nice to know that I can get my money's worth from both apparatuses at the same time.

I'm still wondering about the intensity though, but I'm going to keep plugging away for the next few days and see how I respond to this new angle as far as conditioning goes, and hopefully I'll get to a weight that is challenging but comfortable.

BIB, any suggestions as far as positioning (right or left) and how to deal with the scrotal skin that might get in the way, which for me is what's causing the slight left lean....

I think I have a plan of attack now. I'm going to use the fulcrum method for hanging along with stretching every other day, and use BTC with my usual weights (around 15lbs) and hang for an hour a day on the BTC days and try and have at least ten hours a week, and I'll hang all seven days of the week in some fashion. I think with the combination of the amount of weight I use for BTC and the force I can use during my fulcrum sessions I will be able to get through to the end.

BIB, does this seem reasonable???

million,

>BIB, if time permits what would you say would be a good time frame to shoot for??? I know this question has been asked before, but I have a half an inch to go, and would like to get through in a short amount of time.<

Time to gain a half inch? I have no idea. Too many variables.

>BIB, any suggestions as far as positioning (right or left) and how to deal with the scrotal skin that might get in the way, which for me is what's causing the slight left lean....<

I don't really know what you mean. I also don't know what your setup looks like, so it would be hard to recommend anything.

>BIB, does this seem reasonable???<

All you can do is try it out for a month or more, and then evaluate the routine. One key will be whether you consistantly reach fatigue.

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Thanks BIB, I found a few threads over at �other forum� that helped me with the setup. It took some time but I worked it all out. The PA is what I'm using for the fulcrum as it is the most stable fulcrum I can use since the handles sit across the legs and the grooves sort of "lock" over the thighs. I can readily change the angle (higher or lower) as is necessary during the set. As far as fatigue goes I will be able to reach fatigue consistently.

Fulcrum Hanging has to be one of the most intense things I've done in Penis Enlargement. Man, it's intense once you start to get into some poundages that stress the Tunica at a higher threshold. I just finished my sets for the day and I'm just glad it's over with. Today was very intense, and I'm wondering if it's because I took some time to do some a-stretches in between my sets, because my next set was tremendous towards the end and I was just ready for it to be over, but in a good way.

I'm a bit amazed at the intensity of it, and I'm only hanging at 7.5 lbs. I really think my tunica is the limiting factor that is keeping me from getting to 8" and I think this is getting me where I want to go.

BIB, In youre experience with Fulcrum hanging, did you feel the fatigue as it sort of "circled" the shaft through the area right behind the fulcrum?

For clarity, the fulcrum for me is placed a bit behind the wrap maybe .5" and I feel the fatigue a bit lower than this, as it seems to run around the shaft and down into the rest of the shaft as well. Is this how it should feel? It seems to be correct as my FSL is looser after the sets.

@millionman

Why you never tried ots hanging to work your tunica?

@Bib

Is it possible to do fulcrum hanging in an ots position?
If yes, where can i place the fulcrum/pressure to increase the stress on the tunica.

I tried OTS, but found it to be uncomfortable, and really not to my liking as far as feeling secure in the hanger and being able to fidget around like I sometimes do during my sessions. I found it a bit dificult to do, but I've heard good things about it, but if I were to do any other angle it would be SO as it seems to be very effective at working the Tunica and a bit more managable than OTS. I like Fulcrum hanging so far, the only thing is being very aware of blood flow to the glans, but that's not a huge issue to deal with.

million,

>BIB, In youre experience with Fulcrum hanging, did you feel the fatigue as it sort of "circled" the shaft through the area right behind the fulcrum?<

I did not do any fulcrum hanging for gains. Just to try it out, and try to help a couple of guys. I felt the stress all along the outer curve of the shaft.

>For clarity, the fulcrum for me is placed a bit behind the wrap maybe .5" and I feel the fatigue a bit lower than this, as it seems to run around the shaft and down into the rest of the shaft as well. Is this how it should feel? It seems to be correct as my FSL is looser after the sets.<

I don't really know. I thought you were supposed to have a gentle curve, where the entire length of the outer curve is stresses. If you have a smaller area of fulcrum, I suppose the feeling might be more localized. Then, I guess you would need to move the fulcrum around somewhat.

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What you descirbed was what I was feeling. I was using a general description to at least try and clarify what I was feeling, if that makes any sense. Thanks again BIB.

This is a great thread. I'm sticking it.

BIB, could you explain a bit about when you take a break from hanging BTC or SD why the ligs seems to be burning a bit more and seem to come "loose" after that first set?

I've been having a few problems with skin breakage and tiny scratches and it's been hard reconditioning. Do you have any reccomendations for keeping the tearing under control and how to treat them when it does happen?

I'm not having much success with the fulcrum hanging set up without having bruising and skin tears, but I am doing pretty well using high angle a-stretches and hanging BTC. I think this is probably what is suitable at the moment, but I'm not at all sure if it's enough time for my tunica to be stressed and grow. We'll see I suppose.

million,

>BIB, could you explain a bit about when you take a break from hanging BTC or SD why the ligs seems to be burning a bit more and seem to come "loose" after that first set?<

Probably tearing out of crinellations formed in the healing process. Two steps forward and one back.

>I've been having a few problems with skin breakage and tiny scratches and it's been hard reconditioning. Do you have any reccomendations for keeping the tearing under control and how to treat them when it does happen?<

I always used a high quality Vit E based lotion to keep my skin in shape. But I am not sure why you are getting breakage or scratches. Do you mean stretch marks?

>I'm not having much success with the fulcrum hanging set up without having bruising and skin tears, but I am doing pretty well using high angle a-stretches and hanging BTC. I think this is probably what is suitable at the moment, but I'm not at all sure if it's enough time for my tunica to be stressed and grow. We'll see I suppose.<

Why are you working high angles and low angles at the same time?

As far as bruising goes, please remember, each time you change angles, the stresses on soft tissues also change, and you must allow time for the soft tissues to adapt to the new stresses. Just because you hung X amount of weight at one angle, does not mean you can hang the same amount at another angle, especially with a fulcrum.

Same goes with skin tears. New angles means new stresses on the skin. Take it easy and work up in stress.

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