Bigdex's Chemical PE log

Hey guys. I should have my PGE1 tomorrow so I thought I'd go ahead and start this log. I'm currently following dashdemings hardcore hanging routine - 1 set of heavy hanging a day with one or two days off a week. I usually follow up with some wet jelqing.

I'll be doing things a bit differently with the PGE1. I plan to warm up for 5 - 10 mins with a damp wash cloth. Then I'll be hanging for 20 mins (sticking with the BTC angle). Followed by 10 to 20 mins wet jelqing. Then I'll inject with enough PGE1 to get a 4 hour erection. I'll then use the Bathmate for 20 mins - doing either a plain set, slow squash jelqs or stretches. I'll then take 25 mgs of viagra before bed.

I may change this based on how I respond. For instance I may start doing ULI's before the injection or I may do them during. Or I may switch the Bathmate set to before the injection. The fluid build up may make it hard for the next days hanging so I may have to cut it out or just do very light sets.

I'll be aiming for around 5 days on 2 days off- probably Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat and Sun on.

I'll also be taking pentox. It's prescribed for peyronies and my thinking is that it will help to prevent the tunica from becoming too tough.

I'll also be starting a diet and exercise routine. I'm currently around 14 stone (196 lbs). I need to get down to around 11.5 stone (161 lbs) maybe even less. I'm going to try and stick with a weight lifting routine 3 nights a week and jogging every morning. I'll be doing an ab workout before my run. I may try doing intervals once I get my fitness up. Probably tabatas or maybe just fartleks. For weightlifting I'll be doing either stronglifts 5*5 or starting strength but I may switch to higher rep stuff once my strength levels are up.

I'm not going to be following any crazy diet - just eating less, eating no junk food, less carbs, more protein, more veg and more good fats. I'll be trying to cut out salt and caffeine as well and just drink loads of water.


I have been looking into verapamil which I may start taking when I get enough money. Verapamil injection is prescribed for peyronies. It can reduce collagen synthesis and increase collagenase synthesis. It can also cause an erection. This could mean that I could reduce the amount of PGE1 that I need to inject if I inject them both at the same time. Alternatively, I could wait for the PGE1 erection to subside and then inject with Verapamil. This would allow me to have an 8+ hour erection with less chance of building a tolerance or of having a dangerous priapism.

Some links:

Dr. Adams patent
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7671091.html

Verapamil
http://www.nature.com/aja/journal/v8/n2/abs/aja200638a.html
http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~ranga/papers/2005-11-Klotz_Brindley_Lecture.pdf

PGE1 effects on collagen
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/puBathmateed/7861547

I reread Adams patent and I think I might reduce my injections down to 4 days a week - probably a tuesday, thursday, saturday and sunday. This would give me more time to do other things and reduce the chances of developing tolerance. It also said that if the erection was only around 65% then a second injection could be given.

It also says that the erection time should be between 3 and 6 hours per day.

I only noticed this also "The composition can be formulated for administration to the dense connective tissue surrounding the erectile tissue of the penis by a deep injection that goes below the dermis and subcutaneous tissues. The composition can be formulated for administration to the dorsal suspensory ligand of the penis."

It doesn't say what would be injected here - if PGE1 would infact weaken the collagen. This is something I've never really seen anyone try who is experimenting with chemical Penis Enlargement.

It also mentions that calcium channel blockers can be used to induce the erection. Verapamil belongs to this class of drugs. I'm thinking that maybe it could be used on the dorsal lig as it's directly injected into plaques that cause peyronies rather than the CC. The plaques in peyronies are made of very tough collagen much like ligs.

"The potentiator can be formulated for administration to the dense connective tissue surrounding the erectile tissue of the penis by a deep injection that goes below the dermis and subcutaneous tissues.

The potentiator can be formulated for administration to the dorsal suspensory ligand of the penis, or for intracavernosal injection, or for administration by an implantable sustained release drug or device.

The potentiator can be administered separately from the composition or concurrently with the composition."

I wonder if the reason that no one was getting any gains from injecting igf 1 was due to the fact that they were injecting intracavernosally but they should have been injecting directly to CC. For instance, you could inject igf 1 into the layer of the tunica without penetrating into the CC then using a different needle inject PGE1 into the CC. Again Verapamil could be used or maybe even PGE1???

As PGE1 has collagen weakening properties it could be injected at multiple locations around the tunica. Then an injection into the CC could be given which would give an erection. Think about it. It would take alot less PGE1 to affect the small volume of the tunica as it would to affect the large volume of the CC. That is if you decide to inject the full area of the tunica. A small ring of say 10 to 20 mm could be injected, say at the very base. This would weaken this area allowing it the stretch. Then the next day the injections could be moved further. Alternatively the septum could be targeted.

"A very hard firm erection which is usually preferred for erectile dysfunction will have more veno-occlusive obstruction of the circulation and the reduced flow of fresh oxygenated blood into the erectile tissue will limit the maximum duration that the erection can be safely maintained. A softer less firm response can be safely and comfortably maintained for a greater length of time than a full erection."

The above is another quote from the link I provided above to Dr Adams patent

I got my PGE 1 today. I thought I'd go ahead and inject without doing any exercises as I was so excited to try it out. I'm keeping this from my wife so I was kinda shitting it that she might land back home and catch me with a box full of slin pins. I don't want to have to explain that to her.

Anyways I pulled back 5 out of 100 units on the insulin syringe but after I pushed out the air I was only left with 4. It's 100mcg per ml so 4 units equals 4 mcgs. I didn't read up on injecting the penis as I thought it would be straight forward. I've done injections before, sub cutaneous and intra muscular but this was my first intra CC. I wasn't sure if the pin was in far enough and it was kinda painfull going through the tunica. I tried to aspirate as I thought that if I was in the CC I should see blood but for some reason I didn't. I wasn't easy pushing the plunger down and as I did the pain was very noticable. All this made me very nauseous. I wasn't nervous before starting but at this point I was. I started freaking out a bit thinking I'd done it wrong. I got a bit light headed but after a minute or so I was grand.

I had a cock ring on before I injected and I started to get slightly erect once I'd calmed down but I honestly thought that maybe I'd missed the CC or that I hadn't made it all the way through the tunica. Then the erection kept building, I got to around 70 to 80% erect but it was more with the cock ring on. I was very plump. I don't know if that is normal, I'd say I've been underestimating how bad my EQ has been lately and the PGE1 has shown me what my proper EQ should be. I'm very impressed with it, the pain wasn't really noticable but at higher doses I can imagine that it will be hard to deal with. I'll hopefully be getting some topical anesthetic soon.

The erection lasted about 1 hour. Can't wait for my next injection, was tempted to do another but instead I took 25mg of viagra buccal as I'm just after dinner. The next time I'll probably take 6 mcg.

Ok so today I got home early. I did 2 sets of hanging. 1 was a warm up with half the weight I normally use and the other was the full weight. I attached the hanger closer to the glans today for the first time in over a month or 2. I really felt the fatigue in the ligs. After I did wet jelqs for 20 mins. I then injected with 6mcg of PGE1. I also popped a pentox tab.

The injection didn't go that well. I don't think I went deep enough and I didn't have the clamp on tight enough. I tried using a leather button up cock ring attached behind the balls but I didn't get much off an erection. I'd say I was about 40% erect for an hour or two. After about an hour I popped 25 mgs of Viagra in the hope that it would strengthen the erection but it didn't. About 3 hours after I gave myself that first injection I gave myself another. This time I injected 8 mcg. I used a cable clamp and clamped down hard. I made sure I was deep enough. I got a 95%+ erection and I still have it 1 hour later.

I don't think that 25 mgs of viagra is enough. Anymore I will take 50 mgs every night. I may need to buy more soon off ADC or if DLD starts stocking it I be able to get it here.

I haven't had sex on it yet but I can't wait to try it out.

The next time I'll probably try and stay at 8 mcg and do a second injection if the erection lasts less than 3 hours, and maybe take 50 mcg towards the end to see what effect that has. My next injection will probably be on Saturday.

The second erection has only just gone done - it's 4 hours later. The erection was above 85% for the first 2.5 hours then about 65% for an hour.

I took 2 days off Penis Enlargement to give my cock a rest and to focus on my studies. I did 20 mins of a warm up hanging set with around 10 lbs then tried to do another set with 22.5 lbs but had to cut it short as I was getting alot of pain in my glans. I attached the hanger to close to the glans and wasn't able to stick the pain probably due to the fact that I had taken a few days off.

I was going to try another set but thought fuck it and went straight into injecting with pge1. My last injection was with 8 mcg. This time I did 11 mcg into the right CC. I tried doing it into the side but I must has missed the CC and got zero erectile response. I waited 2 or 3 hours and then did another injection but this time into the top left side. I got a 80 % erection but it only lasted an hour or so. It's 3 hours later and I've very little plumpness left in my cock. I think might be injecting too close to the base of my dick. I'm trying to put the clamp as close to the base as possible but the further I go back the less effective the clamp is. Next time I'm going to make sure that the clamp is right before I inject. I will probably up the dose to 12 or 13 mcg.

The pain was a lot worse this time. I tried to rush pushing down the plunger and got a huge shot of pain. Next time I'll be patient and take it slow. I may need to get some topical anesthetic.

I tried taking 50 mg of viagra when the erection had dropped to below 65% but all it's doing is giving me a headache. I might try injecting tomorrow but this time I'll take the viagra before the shot. I'll probably just take 25 mgs.

bigdex28;518072 said:

tried taking 50 mg of viagra when the erection had dropped to below 65% but all it's doing is giving me a headache. I might try injecting tomorrow but this time I'll take the viagra before the shot. I'll probably just take 25 mgs.

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Inject Viagra?

Hey bigdex28. Congrats bro on the joining of crazy motherfuckers that pin there dicks. With injecting you should inject the pge1 first then quickly put the cockring on. If you keep a cockring on first there will be a lot more internal pressure in your penis, thus making it harder to push the syringe through the tunica walls into the CCs.

So inject first then quickly put the cockring on then message your penis to spread the chemicals through out the CCs. Once your erection starts to build up to at least 60 to 70%, you should be able to take off the cockring since the erection should at that point be locked in as it continues to build before peaking out hours later.

With pain, you shouldn't feel any serious aching yet. For me I didn't start to suffer until I got up to injecting 15 mcgs of PGE1. Also to created a stronger longer lasting chemical erection it's good to edge for the first hour to really locked that erection in there.

With the pentox where are you getting your supply without a prescription? Im definitely interested in trying it orally and mixing it with my DMSO/PABA mix.

Hey dld, I'll be taking the viagra orally then injecting the PGE1. Viagra could be injected if it was sterile but I have no way of preparing it.

Hey kingsnake, thanks for the tips man, I appreciate it. Been having a lot of trouble with these injections. The last day I injected I edged and did some girth work like extreme jelqing and Ulis. I got a decent erection and stayed hard for a good while afterwards. I didn't think that I'd need to do that though so I didn't bother today but I'll definitely do it next time.

I got my supply of pentox over at alldaychemist. I'll be getting more soon along with some verapamil and either viagra or cialis and any other chemical that will help me get a bigger dick.

I've been reading over Dr Adams patent a lot and have got a few ideas for Chemical penis enlargement that I haven't really read of anyone on these forums try.

• Injecting DMSO into the CC, tunica or the ligs (I think ronielle has been trying this out lately)
• Injecting testosterone subcutaneously into the penis
• Injecting either verapamil or chlorpromazine into the CC

I don't know where I could get DMSO that would be safe enough for injecting but I'd be up for trying it if I could. His patent says that it prevents collagen cross linking which would lead to a loss of elasticity. That's what happened that guy who developed megallophallus as a result priapism. The researchers said that it was probably due to a permanent loss of elastisity in the tunica. If I got it I would inject directly into the tunica and not the CC. I would also inject into the ligs.

Tomorrow I might try 2 injections. Firstly I'll warm up. Then inject into the ligs. Then hang, jelq and ulis followed by Viagra and a PGE1 injection into the CC. I'll do some edging with more jelqing and uli's. I might try focusing on wet jelqs to get more length.

I'll update tomorrow evening.

I didn't bother with the lig injection today, I may try it next week. Didn't do any hanging neither but I may do a set before bed.

I started off by taking 25 mgs of viagra then I shot 13mcg into the top of the right CC. I got a great response - 90 to 100% erect for 2 hours then above 65% for an hour and a half. I then injected another 13 mcg into the left CC. This was around 4 or 5 hours after the first injection. I then took another 25 mcgs of viagra. I didn't get as good a response as the first one.

I followed kingsnakes advice of not putting the clamp on until after the injection and of edging to help lock in the erection. The injections went a lot better but there is still a stinging pain when I push down the plunger but I can handle it, I just need to go slow. I did loads of ulis, extreme jelqing and edging for the first 30 to 40 mins. Then I got a shower and used the Bathmate but I couldn't stick it too long - about 5 mins, due to the pain. When I took off the Bathmate I started doing more extreme jelqing and ulis while holding the shower head over my dick. When I got out of the shower I did more for another 10 mins or so. I got some of the best expansion ever. My dick is still very plump.

My routine from now on will probably be like this.

Tuesday and Thursday 1 * PGE1 shot to get a 3 to 4 hour erection
Saturday and Sunday 2 * PGE1 shot to get a total of 6 to 8 hours of erection time

I might just hang during the week and give the weekend off or I may hang at the weekend plus 3 days during the week.

I inject regularly with Trimix in order to achieve an erection because I suffer from ED. I would suggest you go to franktalk.org and check out the Injections Forum and read the threads describing the correct way to inject. If you inject properly, you should not be feeling much pain at all. In summary, you should be using a 30 gauge 1/2 inch needle at either 2 o'clock or 10 o'clock and at a 90 degree angle to the surface of the shaft. Once you pierce the wall of the CC, the needle should slide in easily and you should feel no back pressure or pain as you push down the plunger..

I do not use a cock ring, but just message my dick for first five minutes which allows me to generate a full 95 to 100 % erection lasting for 1.5 to 2 hours with 18 units and I have severe ED.

Sorry for the lack of updates. I've been very busy lately.

Thanks for the advice Makemebig. I'm using 29 gauge 0.5 inch syringes.

I had my first priapism on monday or tuesday - 5 hours of a 100% erection. I went and injected 17 mcgs and took 50 mgs of viagra. This time when I injected I pushed the syringe into my penis even though the needle had fully penetrated, do that it dimpled the skin a little. I then went and looked up that website that makemebig recommended. I noticed on one thread that what I had done was recommended to those who couldn't get through the tunica. I then realised that I probably got more PGE1 into my CC than I was used to.

Anyways, after 5 hours of a painful 100% erection I decided I needed to start trying to get rid of it. I had already masturbated twice which only made it more painful. I tried putting a bag of frozen peas on it ( I couldn't take a shower as my wife would question why the fuck I was taking a shower late at night). I was sitting on the couch for around 20 minutes with a bag of frozen peas on my throbbing cock and I was shitting that my wife would walk in and ask what the fuck I was doing or that I would have to go to hospital and have to explain why to her. The peas did fuck all so I had to do what I was putting off. I took 10 mgs of ritalin (always shrinks my cock) 50 mgs sertraline (SSRI) and a strong cup of tea. It was 12 at night and I usually have to get up at 6 or 7 to get ready for work, so I wasn't looking forward to no being able to sleep.

After 30 mins my cock started to go down. I don't why but I fell asleep soon after that. Usually ritalin, tea and a SSRI late at night would give me insomnia but this time it didn't. I woke up in a great mood and my cock was fat as fuck! I had a nice bulge all day long.

On wednesday I injected only 10 mcgs using this technique without viagra and got 90 % erection for around 3 hours. I hope to get at least 12 hours of erection time at the weekend - 6 on saturday and 6 on sunday. I haven't been hanging lately as I put my back out at work. I'm thinking of changing my angle of attack. I need to get some rope and a pulley.

Here's a link to a set of instructions that makemebig posted on another thread:

http://www.centralfloridaurology.com/new/pdfs/Trimix_Injection_instructions.pdf

Sorry for the lack of updates.

After the last injection that I posted about, the one were I just injected a safe amount of 10 mcgs, I decided that I was going to aim for longer high erection priapisms. The first one scared the fuck out of me as I didn't think I was going to get rid of it and that I would have to go to the hospital. But, after it I had the best expansion I've had in a long time. So last weekend I tried on both the saturday and the sunday to get 4+ hours of 100%+ erection by injecting 15 mcgs. However, on the first injection on the saturday I got only a 90%+ erection for 3 hours. So I ingected again, this time using 20 mcgs but I a less intense erection for less time maybe only 2 hours. Sunday was worse, I started with 20mcg then 25 and got less time and a less intense erection.

I realised that injecting more often causes rapid tolerance. I think I also avoided viagra which may also explain my crap results. So on wednesday I had the day off from work and decided to inject 20 mcgs and take 50 mgs of viagra. I did a heap of Uli's and SSJ's before hand and I did more Uli's and a good bit of edging at the start of the erection. I was at 100%+ erect for around 4 hours and maintained a decent plump for the rest of the day. After the 4 hours I used the Bathmate. I had a very noticable bulge in pants. I even caught a guy staring at it and a few women.

Last night at around 2 in the morning (I was having trouble sleeping) I decided to pop 100 mgs of viagra. I then injected 25 mcgs of PGE1. I got an extreme 100% painful erection but thankfully I managed to sleep through it. I injected around 2:30 in the morning and only at 7:30 did I take ritalin and sertraline and a strong cup of tea to bring it down. Only now at around 8:40 has the erection gone. My total erection time was around 5 hours. For all of this time I was at 100%+ erect. The only reason why I decided to kill the erection was due to the pain which was quite intense. I really need to get some topical anesthetic. I don't think, despite the warnings, that 4+ hour erections are dangerous. Looking at my cock it was red but it wasn't blue which suggests that it wasn't hypoxic.

I more that likely won't be injecting twice a day anymore as I think that injecting say 15 mcgs and then 20 mcgs 3 hours later will produce less total erection time than a single shot of 20 to 25 mcgs.

I think that Chemical Penis Enlargement can work one of two ways: as an all day stretcher by giving you a 70%- 95% erection or as an intense stand alone workout, sort of like a 4+ hour Uli.

In reading about the case of megallophallus resulting from priapisms brought on by sickle cells anemia, the suffer reported that the erections were intense, long duration and painful. This is what I'm trying to emulate. I'm aware of the dangers and I don't recommend that anyone tries this until I'm finished with my experiment.

So my routine from now on will look like this.

5 days of hanging a week
7 days of Bathmate a week
Uli's 6 or 7 days a week depending on EQ
Intense 100 % erection from PGE1 and viagra for 4 to 8 (maybe even as long as 12 hours) once or twice a week.

Injecting less than twice a week with as many days between injection days as possible, say on a wednesday and saturday, should prevent tolerance from developing too rapidly. This is another benefit to higher dosage shots. You could probably get away with less days a week injecting. Ronielle recommends that your aim for 15 hours of erection time a week, with 2 * 8 hour erections a week this can be achieved and you would use less PGE1 than if you were to inject 5 days a week.

I've stopped taking the Pentox as well as I think I may have had a negative effect on the PGE1 but I can't be sure.

As far as results are concerned I think I'm seeing growth but I'm afraid to say what it is in case it is just temporary gains from the Bathmate and Uli's. When I'm finished the PGE1 I will take a week off from Penis Enlargement and measure and then report my gains. I think I'm seeing length and girth gains.

Before starting the PGE1 my stats were 8" BPenis EnlargementL * 5.5" EG
I'd love to get to 9 * 6 by the end of next year.

I've ordered a tube of Lidocaine from amazon. It was 10 sterling for 15 grams. It should last a long time. I'm hoping to inject around 11 at night, rub lidocaine on my cock, go to sleep and take erection reducing measures when I wake. That way I should be at over 100% erection for 8+ hours but with no pain and no hassle. I will have to test 6, 7 and 8 hour erections while fully awake first though to make sure it's safe. I also plan to fuck my wife while my cock is hard from PGE1 and numb from lidocaine. That way I'll be able to go for an hour or so and really bang the fuck outta her!

After Saturday mornings routine I fucked my wife, the extra expansion made her cum very hard and very quick. I also plan to fuck my wife while my cock is hard from PGE1 and numb from lidocaine. That way I'll be able to go for an hour or so and really bang the fuck outta her!

I went and bought a small tube of lidocaine and prilocaine from my local chemist as I couldn't wait for it to arrive from amazon. I tried it out today. It has numbed my cock but the pain from the PGE1 is still there. I think that it is mainly only affecting the skin but not the deep down tissues where the pain is coming from. I'd say it's only use for me in the future will be as a delay cream.

I've had a 6.5 hour erection of over 100% today. I injected 27 mcgs of PGE1 and took 100 mg of viagra orally. Hopefully at the weekend I can go for a 7 to 8 hour erection.

Here's an interesting link:

http://www.issm.info/news/review-reports/priapism-made-easy/

"While no definite “point of no return” for erectile function after priapism has been determined, studies indicate that priapism lasting longer than 24 hours is usually associated with various degree of erectile dysfunction.[2] Therefore, time is of the essence in the treatment of ischemic priapism."

I think I should be safe enough with 8 hour erections.

I was very plump today. I woke with an erection and did about 20 mins of Uli's. Next time I'm going to try and do a Bathmate set before I inject. I thought that the Bathmate may make it harder to get the needle deep down into the CC as there would be extra fluid but if I do short sets and super set with SSJ's I should be fine.

After reading the link I posted above I got to thinking that the cause of Megallophallus may not be extreme engorgement but instead it could be due to changes in blood pH. The link above states that low flow priapism leads to drops in O2 and an increase in CO2. CO2 in water (or blood) has an effect of making it acidic. I then searched on google "pH dependent solubility of collagen" and got this result:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1166277/

"Thermal stabilities of mature insoluble collagen, salt-precipitated fibrils of acid-soluble collagen and acid-soluble collagen in solution were compared as a function of acid pH. Both insoluble and precipitated collagens showed large parallel destabilization with decrease in pH, whereas the intrinsic stability of individual collagen molecules in dilute solution was comparatively unaffected."

Low pH means acidic conditions. I'm thinking that producing a short low intensity erection from PGE1, even though it may create engorgement, will not lead to collagen deformation (unless other collagen softeners are taken concurrently) as the pH will remain normal.

Ok from this link:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/puBathmateed/29885

"The time-dependent increase in stability,...was significantly affected only by temperature, and not by either ionic strength or pH."

"This is in contrast with collagen fibril formation, a process which is greatly affected by ionic strength and pH. Within the range of temperature 29-37 degrees C, lower temperature caused slower fibril formation and faster fibril stabilization."

"collagen molecules first form unstable fibrils which become gradually stabilized on prolonged incubation, without necessarily introducing covalent cross-links."

So,
cool conditions = slower fibril formation
faster fibril stabilization

acidic cool conditions = slower fibril formation
faster fibril stabilization

Hot conditions = faster fibril formation
slower fibril stabilization

acidic Hot conditions = slower fibril formation
slower fibril stabilization

The best conditions for Penis Enlargement, in my opinion, would be the acidic hot conditions.