youknowme123321;610119 said:
and if none of those sizes work they probably woudnt have to offer pricy special sizes. men would just go out and find silicone tubes that fit them and they can apply to the device.

Yeah. Most of those issues will be solved when the betas starting to be tested. Just a quick look in the forums to see men modding their devices.
Using feedback from the brootherhood, which tested pretty much all devices out there, will make this top notch on the market!
 
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Let's be real, how many guys that are 7" in girth actually want to make their penis bigger? Not too many are obsessive and crazy like we all are hahaha
 
dmoney101;610203 said:
Let's be real, how many guys that are 7" in girth actually want to make their penis bigger? Not too many are obsessive and crazy like we all are hahaha

all very true points. and those guys if wanted will be able to do DIY modifications
 
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pradox;610096 said:
That's it. Using a S (3"-4"),M (4"-5") and L (5"-6") sizes is the way to go. Guys above or bellow that could benefit from "special sizes" that could be produced on demand, (which would be a bit more pricey).

Sounds good to me. I think, just in case, 2-3" and 7-8" would be good too even though they would be the least needed.
 
My erect girth is 6 inches. Sometimes, my erect base girth is 6.2 inches. I cant' provide my flaccid yet , because I am hanging right now.

:) I will update with my flaccid later on.
 
I didn't see this thread until today. Not sure where I have been looking.

I just read the whole thread in about an hour.
I know LIGHTNING mentioned this: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post603556.html#post603556 / http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post605043.html#post605043
So it seems that it's already in motion.

I wrote 3/4 of the below w/o knowing how far along the project was. I was on pg. 1 when I started writing.
Some of the stuff is now common sense since it was previously mentioned in the thread, so bare w/ me.

My 2cents if it's not too late.
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Simple shopping cart. Basically a build your own system.
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Vacuum Head Attachment: Phallosan type attachment. Medium/Large/XL (most people from what I know don't use the small version of the phallosan and they don't make an XL, they're losing out on A LOT of money from that alone (not having an XL))
The package shouldn't come w/ all 4 versions. They will be upgrades listed in their own product page.
MOS #1: 3.25"G
MOS #2: 4.25" G
MOS #3: 5.25"G
MOS #4: 6.25"G

The above girths are measured in flaccid. The girth measurements above are just the head opening of the attachment. You all would have to poll to see what the average FHG is.
The rest of the plastic attachment will bulb wider a bit, like a lightbulb as to accommodate the head being expanded and creating the vacuum seal.
Erections w/ the device on could cause a problem if using the wrong head attachment.
-----
Vacuum Condom/Sleeve: 4" Silicone sleeve to keep the suction/vacuum pressure (as shown in youknowme's videos). The sleeve can also roll down the shaft.
-----
Protector Cap: Protector cap, nothing special. Except maybe including 2 of them in a purchase.
-----
Vacuum Pump: The tip of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" will be much like a penis pump.
There will be a screw type fitting/valve that will accommodate a piece of tubing that is connected to a pump bulb.

METHOD EXAMPLE 1:
2014_10_06_135415.jpg

This will pull air out of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" which expands the head of the penis.

It would basically be just like the PMP bulb piece.

METHOD EXAMPLE 2: As similar w/ the PMP. You could just go w/ a tubing piece. You would use your mouth to suck out air from the "Vacuum Head Attachment" in case you didn't have your bulb handy @ the time.
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Spring/Tension Setup: I don't much of the mechanics of these, so I can't really comment. The phallosan offers a good spring/tension setup w/ color coding.
I think 1 good 5lb spring should be enough. The phallosan can go up to 7lbs which is nice.
I don't know how the head pieces will hold @ higher weights.
I think if you're going any higher than 7lbs, then you might as well just start w/ the LG (unless MOS makes another head attachment that can also be suited for vacuum hanging through 10lb-20lbs).
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Stretching Method: The VLC belts are awesome. They can give a SD/SU/BTC stretch. There also doesn't have to be any give within the belt as all of that will be done through the "Spring/Tension Setup".

You could make an adapter for the "Vacuum Head Attachment" say if you wanted to use it on an SG or ETC extender, but that's diverging from the path of having your own ADS/ANS.
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doublelongdaddy;602508 said:
I would also like to have one that allowed for Behind the Cheeks stretching all night and day.

The VLC straps can do this. They give a SU stretch, but all you need to do is just reverse everything to your back to achieve the BTC.

doublelongdaddy;606288 said:
What name do you guys think we should use for the new ADS/ANS? We could incorporate a contest around the winner of the name.

I think "Matters of Stretch" was a good one. Someone chose that previously in the thread.
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Also about patenting. As LIGHTNING said, it really doesn't make much sense. Everyone tries to counterfeit each other no matter what. Unless the funds are there to go to a patent court after a C&D fails, then it's probably pointless.

I'm not sure how important certifications are either. You need certain certs if selling the product on the shelves and ETC, but this is done online and through this forum. So I'm not sure how important that is. I know it's probably pretty important if the product is of electronic nature.

If a government agency was to shut you down, would they take the whole forum/website w/ it? Since they're also aiding and abetting in the sales of "XYZ".
I know PLENTY of people get shutdown due to some faulty shit w/ their product or the way they market it. They hop back up within months under a relabel/rebrand and minor alterations of the product if any @ all.
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youknowme123321;605933 said:
bluetooth scale. that is pretty cool. if it spikes the price to much though i would think to drop that idea. and personally i also don't like the idea of bluetooth/wifi things directly next to my testes. in a lot of cell phone user manuals they say to not place the phone directly against the ear and head.

You know w/ all the talk of "grid hacking". I would hate for someone to hack into a device and start controlling your dick. :blush:

Triangle, triangle, square, R2
***FINISH HIM***

Beating people up in public.
"HEY!! It's not me!!! Someone is controlling my dick remotely"

Yeah the radiation of such device so close could be a problem.
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Those are just my 2cents.
 
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smerc;611194 said:
I didn't see this thread until today. Not sure where I have been looking.

I just read the whole thread in about an hour.
I know LIGHTNING mentioned this: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post603556.html#post603556 / http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post605043.html#post605043
So it seems that it's already in motion.

I wrote 3/4 of the below w/o knowing how far along the project was. I was on pg. 1 when I started writing.
Some of the stuff is now common sense since it was previously mentioned in the thread, so bare w/ me.

My 2cents if it's not too late.
-----
Simple shopping cart. Basically a build your own system.
-----
Vacuum Head Attachment: Phallosan type attachment. Medium/Large/XL (most people from what I know don't use the small version of the phallosan and they don't make an XL, they're losing out on A LOT of money from that alone (not having an XL))
The package shouldn't come w/ all 4 versions. They will be upgrades listed in their own product page.
MOS #1: 3.25"G
MOS #2: 4.25" G
MOS #3: 5.25"G
MOS #4: 6.25"G

The above girths are measured in flaccid. The girth measurements above are just the head opening of the attachment. You all would have to poll to see what the average FHG is.
The rest of the plastic attachment will bulb wider a bit, like a lightbulb as to accommodate the head being expanded and creating the vacuum seal.
Erections w/ the device on could cause a problem if using the wrong head attachment.
-----
Vacuum Condom/Sleeve: 4" Silicone sleeve to keep the suction/vacuum pressure (as shown in youknowme's videos). The sleeve can also roll down the shaft.
-----
Protector Cap: Protector cap, nothing special. Except maybe including 2 of them in a purchase.
-----
Vacuum Pump: The tip of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" will be much like a penis pump.
There will be a screw type fitting/valve that will accommodate a piece of tubing that is connected to a pump bulb.

METHOD EXAMPLE 1:
2014_10_06_135415.jpg

This will pull air out of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" which expands the head of the penis.

It would basically be just like the PMP bulb piece.

METHOD EXAMPLE 2: As similar w/ the PMP. You could just go w/ a tubing piece. You would use your mouth to suck out air from the "Vacuum Head Attachment" in case you didn't have your bulb handy @ the time.
-----
Spring/Tension Setup: I don't much of the mechanics of these, so I can't really comment. The phallosan offers a good spring/tension setup w/ color coding.
I think 1 good 5lb spring should be enough. The phallosan can go up to 7lbs which is nice.
I don't know how the head pieces will hold @ higher weights.
I think if you're going any higher than 7lbs, then you might as well just start w/ the LG (unless MOS makes another head attachment that can also be suited for vacuum hanging through 10lb-20lbs).
-----
Stretching Method: The VLC belts are awesome. They can give a SD/SU/BTC stretch. There also doesn't have to be any give within the belt as all of that will be done through the "Spring/Tension Setup".

You could make an adapter for the "Vacuum Head Attachment" say if you wanted to use it on an SG or ETC extender, but that's diverging from the path of having your own ADS/ANS.
-----


The VLC straps can do this. They give a SU stretch, but all you need to do is just reverse everything to your back to achieve the BTC.



I think "Matters of Stretch" was a good one. Someone chose that previously in the thread.
-----
Also about patenting. As LIGHTNING said, it really doesn't make much sense. Everyone tries to counterfeit each other no matter what. Unless the funds are there to go to a patent court after a C&D fails, then it's probably pointless.

I'm not sure how important certifications are either. You need certain certs if selling the product on the shelves and ETC, but this is done online and through this forum. So I'm not sure how important that is. I know it's probably pretty important if the product is of electronic nature.

If a government agency was to shut you down, would they take the whole forum/website w/ it? Since they're also aiding and abetting in the sales of "XYZ".
I know PLENTY of people get shutdown due to some faulty shit w/ their product or the way they market it. They hop back up within months under a relabel/rebrand and minor alterations of the product if any @ all.
-----


You know w/ all the talk of "grid hacking". I would hate for someone to hack into a device and start controlling your dick. :blush:

Triangle, triangle, square, R2
***FINISH HIM***

Beating people up in public.
"HEY!! It's not me!!! Someone is controlling my dick remotely"

Yeah the radiation of such device so close could be a problem.
-----
Those are just my 2cents.

Wow, excellent ideas and thoughts. I really appreciate this Smerc and I know LIGHTNING will be happy to read what you have written. We are still bouncing ideas around so your input is still very relevant.
 
youknowme123321;611183 said:
Lightning - will this be able to lengthen straight out as well?

That wasn't our intention at first but now it has been mentioned a few times here we can make it adaptable to a sliding extender.
 
doublelongdaddy;611304 said:
Wow, excellent ideas and thoughts. I really appreciate this Smerc and I know LIGHTNING will be happy to read what you have written. We are still bouncing ideas around so your input is still very relevant.

No problem. How many prototypes have you guys went through so far?
 
smerc;611194 said:
I didn't see this thread until today. Not sure where I have been looking.

I just read the whole thread in about an hour.
I know LIGHTNING mentioned this: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post603556.html#post603556 / http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post605043.html#post605043
So it seems that it's already in motion.

I wrote 3/4 of the below w/o knowing how far along the project was. I was on pg. 1 when I started writing.
Some of the stuff is now common sense since it was previously mentioned in the thread, so bare w/ me.

My 2cents if it's not too late.
-----
Simple shopping cart. Basically a build your own system.
-----
Vacuum Head Attachment: Phallosan type attachment. Medium/Large/XL (most people from what I know don't use the small version of the phallosan and they don't make an XL, they're losing out on A LOT of money from that alone (not having an XL))
The package shouldn't come w/ all 4 versions. They will be upgrades listed in their own product page.
MOS #1: 3.25"G
MOS #2: 4.25" G
MOS #3: 5.25"G
MOS #4: 6.25"G

The above girths are measured in flaccid. The girth measurements above are just the head opening of the attachment. You all would have to poll to see what the average FHG is.
The rest of the plastic attachment will bulb wider a bit, like a lightbulb as to accommodate the head being expanded and creating the vacuum seal.
Erections w/ the device on could cause a problem if using the wrong head attachment.
-----
Vacuum Condom/Sleeve: 4" Silicone sleeve to keep the suction/vacuum pressure (as shown in youknowme's videos). The sleeve can also roll down the shaft.
-----
Protector Cap: Protector cap, nothing special. Except maybe including 2 of them in a purchase.
-----
Vacuum Pump: The tip of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" will be much like a penis pump.
There will be a screw type fitting/valve that will accommodate a piece of tubing that is connected to a pump bulb.

METHOD EXAMPLE 1:
2014_10_06_135415.jpg

This will pull air out of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" which expands the head of the penis.

It would basically be just like the PMP bulb piece.

METHOD EXAMPLE 2: As similar w/ the PMP. You could just go w/ a tubing piece. You would use your mouth to suck out air from the "Vacuum Head Attachment" in case you didn't have your bulb handy @ the time.
-----
Spring/Tension Setup: I don't much of the mechanics of these, so I can't really comment. The phallosan offers a good spring/tension setup w/ color coding.
I think 1 good 5lb spring should be enough. The phallosan can go up to 7lbs which is nice.
I don't know how the head pieces will hold @ higher weights.
I think if you're going any higher than 7lbs, then you might as well just start w/ the LG (unless MOS makes another head attachment that can also be suited for vacuum hanging through 10lb-20lbs).
-----
Stretching Method: The VLC belts are awesome. They can give a SD/SU/BTC stretch. There also doesn't have to be any give within the belt as all of that will be done through the "Spring/Tension Setup".

You could make an adapter for the "Vacuum Head Attachment" say if you wanted to use it on an SG or ETC extender, but that's diverging from the path of having your own ADS/ANS.
-----


The VLC straps can do this. They give a SU stretch, but all you need to do is just reverse everything to your back to achieve the BTC.



I think "Matters of Stretch" was a good one. Someone chose that previously in the thread.
-----
Also about patenting. As LIGHTNING said, it really doesn't make much sense. Everyone tries to counterfeit each other no matter what. Unless the funds are there to go to a patent court after a C&D fails, then it's probably pointless.

I'm not sure how important certifications are either. You need certain certs if selling the product on the shelves and ETC, but this is done online and through this forum. So I'm not sure how important that is. I know it's probably pretty important if the product is of electronic nature.

If a government agency was to shut you down, would they take the whole forum/website w/ it? Since they're also aiding and abetting in the sales of "XYZ".
I know PLENTY of people get shutdown due to some faulty shit w/ their product or the way they market it. They hop back up within months under a relabel/rebrand and minor alterations of the product if any @ all.
-----


You know w/ all the talk of "grid hacking". I would hate for someone to hack into a device and start controlling your dick. :blush:

Triangle, triangle, square, R2
***FINISH HIM***

Beating people up in public.
"HEY!! It's not me!!! Someone is controlling my dick remotely"

Yeah the radiation of such device so close could be a problem.
-----
Those are just my 2cents.

Great input smerc! All valid ideas that echoed a few previous posts in this thread.
We are just waiting on a few other samples here for parts.
 
LIGHTNING;611341 said:
That wasn't our intention at first but now it has been mentioned a few times here we can make it adaptable to a sliding extender.

i know i would like that.
 
youknowme123321;611345 said:
i know i would like that.

Just for temp purposes in case MOS gets their own type of setup w/ an adapter.

Here's what the user "pudendal" did on another forum:
2014_10_09_203433.jpg



and here is another from someone else (can't recall their name):
ggggggg.jpg



Basically using a bell that you're not currently using and making a mod to fit a adapter, that can also fit on the extender of your choice.

If MOS could offer some type of adapter that also clips off or ETC, then attaches to another tension device that can be used w/ a belt, then that should supercede all extenders out there. It would be a rod+belt universal extender. That would be game over, checkmate, to all extender manufacturers out there.
 
smerc;611368 said:
Just for temp purposes in case MOS gets their own type of setup w/ an adapter.

Here's what the user "pudendal" did on another forum:
2014_10_09_203433.jpg


and here is another from someone else (can't recall their name):
ggggggg.jpg



Basically using a bell that you're not currently using and making a mod to fit a adapter, that can also fit on the extender of your choice.

If MOS could offer some type of adapter that also clips off or ETC, then attaches to another tension device that can be used w/ a belt, then that should supercede all extenders out there. It would be a rod+belt universal extender. That would be game over, checkmate, to all extender manufacturers out there.

awesome sharing!!! thanks smerc. wish Phallosan gave me an extra large bell instead of just one since the small and medium are useless to me
 
I think DLD nailed the size ranges. Of course there will always be that one guy in 10,000 with a genuine micro phallus starting with 2x2 who the stretcher won't fit or the weirdo with 10x7 who wants more size. I think "most" men is who should be catered to. The rest can be better served with some other part of the MOS product line.
 
youknowme123321;611380 said:
awesome sharing!!! thanks smerc. wish Phallosan gave me an extra large bell instead of just one since the small and medium are useless to me
Can you not just order individual parts for the phallosan? That's bullshit if you can't. Jes and sg extenders both offer replacement parts.
 
tb007;611437 said:
Can you not just order individual parts for the phallosan? That's bullshit if you can't. Jes and sg extenders both offer replacement parts.

you can only buy extra condoms and protector caps. no extra bells or pumps or straps
 
youknowme123321;611443 said:
you can only buy extra condoms and protector caps. no extra bells or pumps or straps

That's cause all you need is the bell and the pump.
 
Jdcsd;611446 said:
That's cause all you need is the bell and the pump.
What if one breaks? Or you want to mod an extender with a phallosan head attachment? They should still offer all parts as replacements. They could even make it to where you can't buy extra parts unless you've already bought a whole system because I know they want to make sure no one passes on the system just to make a cheaper version using the other parts because they're greedy. If anything, they would make even more money if they sold more stuff. That sounds stupidly obvious but apparently they have other agendas.
 
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