Breaking all the Rules and Getting so Much Expansion!

Great updates! Thanks for getting involved again, you are inspiring to many!

doublelongdaddy;513719 said:

Great updates! Thanks for getting involved again, you are inspiring to many!

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Yes very, I have been following your thread, and hope to try this extended workout of pumping throughout the day. After reading your thread, I have been experimenting myself. This is one of my first posts so I'm just gonna give a little back ground: I am 20 and I've been Penis Enlargementing technically since February when I got my X4 labs Deluxe, it was a real pain to use it, I didn't use it too much, it's just gathering dust because of it being hard to work with. Then I got my Bathmate X-40 in June, it was sort or hard to work with, but it got way easier googling and finding this site, and learning the mods that make it easy to work with, such as the Vacuvin, and sleeve, as well as other techniques.

I started at 5.75 x 5 before Penis Enlargement and now am at 6.25 x 5.25

200cm for 30 mins and got a .25" length gain, and a .5" girth gain.
200cm for 15 mins and got a .25" length gain, and a .375" girth gain.

We should all collaborate to see what extended workout provides optimal gains.

skidh;513840 said:

I started at 5.75 x 5 before Penis Enlargement and now am at 6.25 x 5.25

200cm for 30 mins and got a .25" length gain, and a .5" girth gain.
200cm for 15 mins and got a .25" length gain, and a .375" girth gain.

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That is such a sweet thing to read!

I've recently started using an air pump for convenience. Bathmate set up can be a pain after a long day. After reading through this thread I gotta add the Bathmate back into my routine!!!

doublelongdaddy;513719 said:

Great updates! Thanks for getting involved again, you are inspiring to many!

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Hell yeah ! Was so pleased to see you back . Just wish I could pump that much too . Was pumping two three times per day before my week break but last two days by the end of my second session I've had a huge ball of fluid under shaft at base of glans . Wearing andro as long as I can today then do one Bathmate session this arvo and see how it goes then if no fluid back to andro tonight . Maybe just need to recondition to Bathmate . I am pumping to 180 now though so I can't complain

The colonel;514010 said:

Hell yeah ! Was so pleased to see you back . Just wish I could pump that much too . Was pumping two three times per day before my week break but last two days by the end of my second session I've had a huge ball of fluid under shaft at base of glans . Wearing andro as long as I can today then do one Bathmate session this arvo and see how it goes then if no fluid back to andro tonight . Maybe just need to recondition to Bathmate . I am pumping to 180 now though so I can't complain

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If you have had time off, as I have, from the Bathmate or Penomet, you will have a period of reconditioning. Work slowly up to your last max and when you feel ready push on. The retention may be temporary until you are used to pumping again, or you will need to apply the 5 on 5 workout (5 minutes in the tube, 5 minutes jelling or the like) maybe even 3 on 3 in the beginning. I am happy you are getting use from your Andro, what kind of time are you putting in?

Been trying to get at least two hours andro a day some days more . Got about 5 today . Bit sore after Bathmate past few days so might go bit light next couple of days . Before my week off I was using andro after Bathmate which seemed to work really well but I've had more time this week to use before Bathmate . Was planning to use before and after this week but been too sore after . Girth seems to be coming a lot easier than length so I want to push length along a bit more . Want to try stretch hard pre Bathmate then use light stretch to heal post Bathmate . I think this may help length .

Thanks for the input and encouragement colonel, skidh, DLD, and youknowme!!

Gotten good workouts in last couple of days.

Sore today cause have done so much!!

Next time at store gonna get some aloe Vera lotion. I remember Dan Clizer said he was using it and I think I've figured out why!!
Did 5 workout for total 200 total mins in tube yesterday and 25 mins of manual.
Today will finish with having done 6 workouts for 240 mins in tube! 30 mins manual.

I WAS getting good erections when I started! Not any more. I'm half way through round 5 of 6 right now and I've killed my dick. It's flat lined. Too much of this kills EQ!

Started using CITRULLINE not citrulline malate three days ago. Think it's helped EQ when not doing workouts. Have awesome morning wood last night.

I wonder if I'm doing too much and won't see results because overtraining!?

I'm getting NOT EVEN CLOSE to the pumps I got when I started this thread. I was taking herbal pills that were taken off the market because they were laced with cialis.

My pumps were amazing when using the cialis! But I was taking so much to keep boners that I started getting blurry vision and ear pain. People go blind and go deaf on cialis!

I did buy some imitation cialis a couple days ago though and will probably receive it soon. I hope to use it responsibly and not overdue it.

Something I've thought to do while I'm working to keep dick plump:
I'm going to try to go to a bathroom stall every two hours or so at work and do some SSJ's!! Did this twice towards the end of the work day today and it was nice plumping up the dick a bit.

Figure it will keep the dick expanded more.

I'm doing the SSJ's sooooooo intensely now!! I remember when on cialis how I stayed so big for so long and forgot how intense I was doing them. Sometimes can't get dick totally hard so KEGEL as much blood in as I can.

Also I'm doing what I'm calling the LADDER SQUEEZE.
Starts out like an SSJ. Base grip with one hand. Other hand I'm squeezing right at the circumcision line and pushing down. I then work top hand down squeezing hard as hell for 30 seconds before moving down towards bad a centimeter or so at a time till squeezes almost touch.

These ladder squeezes leave me feeling more plump than regular SSJ's. I think they isolate the squeeze in certain parts of the penis more.

You sir are a trooper . 240 mins in the tube !!!!!!!!!!! Holy fucking shit !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm surprised you can even touch it after that. I think at best I've done 60 mins in a day and couldn't take anymore . Back to two sets a day now without fluid and hitting 180 every day this week . I'm not surprised your eq is suffering with that much pumping . You taking any rest days ?

Here is a log of things I have been trying for the past week:

Date|EL|EG|ELAW|EGAW|Time|Routine

10/21|6.25|5.25|6.5 |5.75 |30 mins: 18cm/start, 19cm/5mins, 20cm/10 mins-25mins, 20cm/last 5mins
10/22| 6.25|5.256.5|5.625|15 mins: 18cm/start, 19cm/5mins, 20cm/10 mins-15mins
10/23|6.375|5.25|6.625|5.625|25 mins: 18cm/start, 19cm/5mins, 20cm/10 mins-15mins, 20cm/last 5mins
10/24|6.375|5.25 |6.625|5.75|30 mins: 15cm/start, 16cm/1mins, 17cm/2mins,18cm/3mins,19cm/4mins 20cm/5 mins-30mins Continuous
10/25|6.375|5.25 |6.5|5.5|10 mins: 20cm in first 3 mins, 20cm/3mins-10 mins Continuous

EL is NPenis EnlargementL, ELAW and EGAW are erect after workout, (length)/(Timeframe), Continuous means I never let the pressure go below a certain length

So far I have found that pumping at a high pressure for a long amount of time has shown most results (what do you know? lol) as seen on 10/21/12

After doing workouts longer than 15 mins throughout this week, I now find it easier to pump to my max of 20cm. I pumped to it in 3 mins as seen on 10/25. Tomorrow I will try to pump to 20cm in 3 mins, and keep it above 20cm continuously for 30 mins, maybe 45 if there's no pain.

Thanks Colonel and skidh for the comments and contributions!

I always increase pressure slowly and if it starts to hurt I stop or even back off. Did a lot of backing off yesterday!!! Lol. Dick hurts this morning.

Up early cause have to go to work and of course getting in 30-40 mins while I'm typing this. Pump in bed and brush teeth/electric shaver to multitask!

Was able to barely get a weak boner just now to start. Little better than dead dick last night but here are my thoughts....

I'm off the whole month of November cause using almost all my vacation time then. Was wanting to tackle this Penis Enlargement hard like 240 mins/day! Lol but gonna have to back off EQ is too important cause the fiancé is a nympho! Lol. She would not be happy if her Mr Peter wasn't in top shape

Starting soon I'm thinking 60 mins will be max for me per day as hard as that is for me to say! Want to rebuild EQ and be able to actually have sex.

Skidh your log is awesome! I wish I were keeping records like that. But when I pump more and more I'm actually getting to lower heights in the tube! I've gotten to 20cm before in the past on rare occasions but usually 190 is my max. Yesterday I got to 185 only but was backing off and going for time more than anything.

I too agree that the faster one can get to max pressure the best gains. I personally go for width most so I do that shortening in the tube thing I was talking about which is like a Bathmate stretch I think which fattens the dick in the tube. I actually think this concentrates only on width the way I do it and keeps me from max length which is good for me. Happy with length and I know it will come anyways. Can't help it with the Bathmate!

So since I'm not gonna be able to pursue this as crazy for a while I hope some of you out there will continue the experiments!

I wish I were single and black. Would be able to pump all day, damn the EQ and wouldn't care about discoloration! Lol.

Oh and colonel no I don't want to take any more days off ever. When I stop and then restart I always break capillaries. I'm very prone to discoloration and when I go more often I get less discoloration cause the dick is used to the pumping I guess!? My day off from now on will be 30 mins in tube!

I wonder what the proper amount of time/ EQ is to get max gains. Maybe we should all just follow what Dan Clizer did!?

Has anyone ever duplicated his results!? Is he a myth? Lol.

Ok. I've done some introspection and lots of thinking. I've done a reality check!!

This is crazy what I was doing. I was actually thinking about doing cialis even though I have some pretty bad side effects from it!! Wasn't proud of myself.

Am now.

Took 36 hours off. Pumped 10 mins night of 27th and 5 mins manual.
EQ a little bit better but still bad.

24 hours later(last night) did:
5 mins edging(masturbating close to ejac)
10 mins Bathmate
5 mins edging
5 mins manual
5 mins edging
EQ much better!!
Didn't need ���� even.

This morning:
5 mins edging
10 mins Bathmate
5 mins manual
5 mins edging
EQ greatly improved!! No ���� used

I'm going to do the above workout twice a day. Adjusting up slowly and back down if EQ diminishes.

I'm going to abandon my experiment on crazy sessions. There's nothing better for a man's confidence than good EQ and I'm not willing to take the cialis that this man requires to get the results I was getting when I started this thread because of side effects I started experiencing. I'm done with cialis.

I honestly think though if someone is willing to take cialis or has great EQ that they'd gain very quickly from Dan Clizer's methods. I was so rock hard and expanded all the time when I started this experiment. I was keeping massive size hours later. After working out before bed I'd wake in morning and still have .3-.5" expansion from rock hard morning wood!!!! Was crazy awesome and I bet if I could have continued taking cialis like they were candy I could have grown amazingly quick!!

Dan Clizer was using Viagra at times. I wonder if this helped him gain so quickly. It keeps the fatigue of crazy workouts at bay..

Why do I think cialis is better than Viagra? It's Viagra that lasts 36 hours!!

Good luck to anyone that tries crazy long sessions! Keep that EQ high or abandon it and try something else is my final thought!!!

Good luck to all in getting gains!
Chuck

I was doing sessions of 20minutes, but I have a slight left curve so it's pressing the Bathmate on one side too much, shorter sessions take more time sure, I still like it. What I am doing at the moment is one long session of 20 minutes and few shorter ones plus manual. I try to spend at least about an hour on Bathmate.

Chuck6877;515159 said:

Ok. I've done some introspection and lots of thinking. I've done a reality check!!

This is crazy what I was doing. I was actually thinking about doing cialis even though I have some pretty bad side effects from it!! Wasn't proud of myself.

Am now.

Took 36 hours off. Pumped 10 mins night of 27th and 5 mins manual.
EQ a little bit better but still bad.

24 hours later(last night) did:
5 mins edging(masturbating close to ejac)
10 mins Bathmate
5 mins edging
5 mins manual
5 mins edging
EQ much better!!
Didn't need ���� even.

This morning:
5 mins edging
10 mins Bathmate
5 mins manual
5 mins edging
EQ greatly improved!! No ���� used

I'm going to do the above workout twice a day. Adjusting up slowly and back down if EQ diminishes.

I'm going to abandon my experiment on crazy sessions. There's nothing better for a man's confidence than good EQ and I'm not willing to take the cialis that this man requires to get the results I was getting when I started this thread because of side effects I started experiencing. I'm done with cialis.

I honestly think though if someone is willing to take cialis or has great EQ that they'd gain very quickly from Dan Clizer's methods. I was so rock hard and expanded all the time when I started this experiment. I was keeping massive size hours later. After working out before bed I'd wake in morning and still have .3-.5" expansion from rock hard morning wood!!!! Was crazy awesome and I bet if I could have continued taking cialis like they were candy I could have grown amazingly quick!!

Dan Clizer was using Viagra at times. I wonder if this helped him gain so quickly. It keeps the fatigue of crazy workouts at bay..

Why do I think cialis is better than Viagra? It's Viagra that lasts 36 hours!!

Good luck to anyone that tries crazy long sessions! Keep that EQ high or abandon it and try something else is my final thought!!!

Good luck to all in getting gains!
Chuck

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As much as I love to read about your crazy hours pumping I think your new routine sound much more realistic . Like I said before any supplements will have negative long term effects . Pumping twice a day I have the most rock hard morning wood ever and it's always still holding some of the pump from the night before . You're still going to gain with new routine just maybe not going to be as fast . Or maybe it will be better because your eq we be natural and you will have some healing time too . I'll be here reading your progress still either way mate .

Chuck6877;515159 said:

Ok. I've done some introspection and lots of thinking. I've done a reality check!!

This is crazy what I was doing. I was actually thinking about doing cialis even though I have some pretty bad side effects from it!! Wasn't proud of myself.

Am now.

Took 36 hours off. Pumped 10 mins night of 27th and 5 mins manual.
EQ a little bit better but still bad.

24 hours later(last night) did:
5 mins edging(masturbating close to ejac)
10 mins Bathmate
5 mins edging
5 mins manual
5 mins edging
EQ much better!!
Didn't need ���� even.

This morning:
5 mins edging
10 mins Bathmate
5 mins manual
5 mins edging
EQ greatly improved!! No ���� used

I'm going to do the above workout twice a day. Adjusting up slowly and back down if EQ diminishes.

I'm going to abandon my experiment on crazy sessions. There's nothing better for a man's confidence than good EQ and I'm not willing to take the cialis that this man requires to get the results I was getting when I started this thread because of side effects I started experiencing. I'm done with cialis.

I honestly think though if someone is willing to take cialis or has great EQ that they'd gain very quickly from Dan Clizer's methods. I was so rock hard and expanded all the time when I started this experiment. I was keeping massive size hours later. After working out before bed I'd wake in morning and still have .3-.5" expansion from rock hard morning wood!!!! Was crazy awesome and I bet if I could have continued taking cialis like they were candy I could have grown amazingly quick!!

Dan Clizer was using Viagra at times. I wonder if this helped him gain so quickly. It keeps the fatigue of crazy workouts at bay..

Why do I think cialis is better than Viagra? It's Viagra that lasts 36 hours!!

Good luck to anyone that tries crazy long sessions! Keep that EQ high or abandon it and try something else is my final thought!!!

Good luck to all in getting gains!
Chuck

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Wait a minute! why is good EQ essential for good gains? wasnt Dan using Bathmate non erect?

Junglefever;515221 said:

Wait a minute! why is good EQ essential for good gains? wasnt Dan using Bathmate non erect?

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Because as you grow larger it takes more strength to hold the greater volume of blood needed to become 100% erect.

Colonel,
Just going to start with that routine and maybe add a minute here and there till I find out when EQ starts suffering and back down. As long as EQ holds I'll keep adding.

Also I'm in max EQ mode now. home almost whole month of November so want to be good for fiancé! Crappy boners don't fly with her!

Also does EQ really matter to gains? I'm not totally sure but I have noticed when I have good EQ I get MUCH better pumps. Also DLD's explanation makes some sense.

Also most the gains probably come from the manual done after getting in the expanded state from the Bathmate. Everyone agrees good EQ is essential for gains with manual alone.

what is EQ for?

oldboy;515450 said:

what is EQ for?

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EQ= Erection Quality

Thanks for the updates chuck! Around last week, I have been including my x4 labs deluxe before I pump, I generally stretch around 2 hours before I start pumping.

I went around 4 days without pumping until today and noticed a lot of small black dots all over the lower half of my penis. It seems co conditioning is important, make sure to never stop pumping! XD I plan to do more full length 20cm pumps, 20 mins a day, I will provide any info I find. Also, if I could get to ~203 with my X-40, does this mean its time to go to the X-40?