I suppose it's about time for an update. I've been busy as hell in addition to lady problems and a recent Penis Enlargement injury so I haven't updated in a while. Here's the breakdown:

Penis Enlargement Routines

I have been exclusively dry jelqing and pumping lately. It is working insanely well. I have tried dry jelqing before and it didn't do some much for me, but working with a 100% erection level and getting my form down has been a blessing. I love it. I just recently made a post about my dry jelq method in the main forum, check it out. I may link it later. I get super good, hard expansions that last for a long ass time.

I have also been experimenting with 24 hour cock ring wear. Before I couldn't do this, but since I've regained my erection and bloodflow powers and done a little experimenting it's awesome. I'm fluffed 100% of the time. It's analogous to ADCing, though I do it nonstop. I occasionally alternate placement on the shaft and/or put it around the whole package. The initial results are great, and it worked wonders for keeping my pump for hours.

Penis Enlargement INJURY

My worst injury to date. I recently split my urethra opening a little farther, when I put too much pressure on the head it breaks open again and bleeds a little bit. Could this be from not warming up? I don't know, no use risking it. I've been cleaning it with Hydrogen Peroxide, and applying Neosporin and a bandaid. It seems to be getting better, I'm taking a few days off until it completely heals so I can start hitting it hard again. I don't think it will take long, and I'll ease back into it with a little wet jelqing.

GIRTH ATTACK

No, I did not send out a Newsletter this week. I will be next Sunday when things settle down a bit. I will also be assigning some actual assignments, probably to myself, Cy, DADDI, and Iwant8x6. Get ready guys. I've also noticed a lot of guys still working hard on the Progress Logs, KEEP IT UP.

GIRL UPDATE

So I went home last week and hung out with her for a few nights. Girls are evil. Earlier, HOOSYODADDI told me to be cool and I was like "no problem, I'm ready for whatever," but fuck if I didn't have to remember what he said. Anyways, I'm not going to talk about it right now.

On a lighter note though, we hadn't had sex for a while. I decided to break out the cock ring for the first time, she was like "is this your exercise?" Little does she know. Anyways, the last time we had sex I was probably below 5" EG. I was rocking a full 5.5er when we had sex and it was AWESOME. I bought a box of Lifestyles condoms thinking surely they would still fit. It was a battle in itself trying to put one on. I couldn't believe how small it looked in comparison to my penis, and I even lost a little girth from the constriction.

I was kind of suprised with how she responded to it. She was really shocked with how big it was, and for the rest of the weekend referred to it as my "huge penis." I've waited so long to hear that. She also said if it got too much bigger she might have to limit the sex. Oddly enough though, she didn't make any comments about it being better. She said she loves it no matter what size it is. I did hear new noises though, and it was super tight. And after a few orgasms she begged me to stop.

Her: "I'm getting my boobs done in a few years."
Me: "No you aren't, they are perfect."
Her: "You have to say that."
Me: "Nah, I really think so. But, I tell you what - if you get them done I'm going to make my penis this big" {demonstrating a 8x6 with my hands}
Her: "OK, I just won't have sex with you."
Me: "That's what you think now."

Ahh I love her.

HANGING

I've decided when I reach a bonafide 5.5" EG I'm going to start hanging. I think I'll probably hang a 3 on 1 off routine, maybe some light jelqing in there. Then somehow I'm going to slowly work girth back in. I think the deconditioning is going to be key for the last half inch. Hopefully I'll reach 8" EL at the same time as 6" EG. I never could've imagined an 8x6 in a year, but I think it could happen. Wish me luck.

GOAL

6", I'M COMING FOR YOU BITCH.
 
A picture of the sort of cock ring I use. I cannot mention all of the benefits of this, I've started wearing it 24/7, and I have worn it for every single session for as long as I've had it.

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR MONTHS
 
Any good adult store should have them, or you can order one online. Make sure the ring is a rubber type, I've seen some leather ones that look completely uncomfortable.
 
So your still doing constricters.
I know you stopped clamping, but thats useing the clamp.
Do you now use this device and still do the work you did in the clamp?
Works in the sameway a shoe lace does, except this is MORE comfortable....I had something similer, but I lost it.
 
REDZULU2003 said:
So your still doing constricters.
I know you stopped clamping, but thats useing the clamp.
Do you now use this device and still do the work you did in the clamp?
Works in the sameway a shoe lace does, except this is MORE comfortable....I had something similer, but I lost it.

Sort of. It's not nearly as tight as a constrictor, doesn't give me a size increase, doesn't ENGORGE like a clamp, just helps keep it up. If I tightened it up a little it would probably be more similar to constrictors. And nah, my routine is completely revamped - but I'm making a hell of a lot better gains.
 
good for you, sounds very similer to ADC/ANC but with lighter constriction like you say.....keep me informed on how it goes, cos I'm always very interested when I see new devices being tested, useing constricter methods.
 
PLEASE....DO NOT RESTART Penis Enlargement TOO EARLY. I already mentioned how i screwed myself over by restarting too soon after an injury.

Hope you are doing better man.

Keep us updated.
 
AlloyCG said:
my routine is completely revamped - but I'm making a hell of a lot better gains.

What is the new routine and what are the gains? Inspire us:)
 
AHHHHHHHHHHHH BITCHES I'M BACK! That's right, here's some straight up renewed Alloy ready for your asses.

Ok, I'm not going to do a diary entry for my absence, but I will divulge some top secret info that I know you've all been dying to hear.,,

1) The injury. Moderate bleeding from the urethra every time I Penis Enlargemented. I took a considerable amount of time off, time from Penis Enlargement, time from the boards, and my penis in general. I came back refreshed and renewed. I had a weak vein in my urethra toward/inside the glans, and when I put to much pressure on it it "popped" and out flew the blood. Nothing painful, just didn't seem healthy at the time. Now, I get a slight pool of blood at the urethra during girth work, but not even enough to spill out. I don't mind it a bit.

2) The girlfriend. Back together!!! Wow, it's been almost a year since we've started our relationship, and I can't imagine a better source of inspiration for my life, and Penis Enlargement. Definitely love her.

3) The MOD status. What a fucking honor, you know? Never imagined I was influential enough to gain mod status, but wow.

4) Girth Attack - yep, it's starting again. Give me til about mid-December til I can really focus on some projects I've been wanting to do, but I'll be sending out some newsletters soon for those of you that have hung in there so far.

4) The ROUTINE...

MY Penis EnlargementRFECT ROUTINE - it's the ideal routine, it's what I shoot for every day. It doesn't happen, but I get close sometimes. I am still on a 3 on 1 off schedule. Thinking of switching it to 2 on 1 off, unless my new idea works out. And would you believe it. For the first time since starting this log, I'm clamping again. For all of the time and energy I've spent degrading clamping - I actually learned something from myself. I was one of those people who was clamping wrong. Anyways...

<b>AM</b>

10 minute wet jelq session

<b>PM</b>

20 Minute Hot Wrap

10 Minute Clamped (No Exercises)
10 Minute Pump
5 Minute Edge
10 Minute Clamped (8x 45-second Horsies)
10 Minute Pump
5 Minute Edge
10 Minute Clamped (No Exercises)
10 Minute Pump

Total Time = 90 minutes

<b>Bedtime</b>

200 PC flexes


It's an intensive routine, but not a lot of work involved. The hardest part is managing an erection for the entire thing. My erections actually have started to suffer quite a bit, so I decided I'd try doing a short jelq session every day. Whenever I jelq I seem to have superhuman erections, I'm hoping that will give me the edge I need to make it through this workout.

Dry jelqing. Goddamn, I love dry jelqing. But I just couldn't see the gains happening. My erections were killer, but the gains were just not there. I think after I reach 5.5" EG I'm going to start working length a little bit. Maybe during that time, I'll do my dry jelq routine. I've decided to up my goal to 9x6. I don't think it's too much to ask for. I think the 6" girth is going to be tougher than th 9" length.

I don't think the 5.5" EG by New Years is going to happen. I wanted it so bad - but it's ok. I've learned so much from wanting it so bad that it's almost worth not having it yet. 6" EG is a serious undertaking for me. I've seen ALMOST nobody make a two inch girth increase. Keep me in good spirits guys, I lose faith every so often. The goal seems so far away...
 
Hi Alloy, I've just finished reading your progress thread. I found it really informative and inspiring. You are definately a hard worker, that's for sure. Congratulations on the girl and the mod status, you deserve them both. Good luck with your progress (my fingers are crossed for you reach 5.5"EG by the new year).
 
TomdW said:
Hi Alloy, I've just finished reading your progress thread. I found it really informative and inspiring. You are definately a hard worker, that's for sure. Congratulations on the girl and the mod status, you deserve them both. Good luck with your progress (my fingers are crossed for you reach 5.5"EG by the new year).

Thanks TomdW, it really means a lot to have people read your log. I appreciate the kind words.

5.5" EG at the start of my Penis Enlargement was the pinnacle of girth for me. I thought being the size of a paper roll tube was going to be the greatest thing ever. Even though I've reset my goal to 6"+, there's still a certain amount of sentimental value I'm placing on 5.5" I almost feel like crying thinking about the day that I read a solid 5.5". If by the New Year, awesome. If not, that's OK too. The important thing is to be efficient and not SLOW my progress by trying to compensate for slow gains.

Today is a semi-rest day. No Penis Enlargement work per se, but I'm working on something big. Hopefully it pans out in the next few days, should be a super wonderful resource to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] and the Penis Enlargement world in general. High hopes, I know.

Also - kegels. I decided to implement a kegel routine again. The last time I was doing them, I was Penis Enlargementing so intensely, kegeling so intensely that I pretty much lost erectile function completely for a while. I'm doing a short PC exercises each night just to get it in some kind of shape. I'm not particularly proud of my erection strength without a cockring on, so I'm hoping this helps out a bit.

I've also remembered that I'm about to sell some books back - I could get between $60-100. I've decided I'm going to get some Viagra or Cialis, whatever sounds good at the time. Cialis sounds cool, because if I go on a 2 on/1 off schedule I could take one that would last for those two work days.

Anyways, my blessings to all.
 
Great to have you back! rofl

Your routine looks similar to mine without the hanging. You might try for just two clamps instead of three and extend the time to 12minutes from 10min. I'm going to try the same.

Congrats on the GF, mod status and recovery!

Regards,

HOOSYODADDI
 
Penis Enlargement is driving me up the wall. I'm running out of ideas. Every time I try something new, another problem arises. Everytime I rehash something old - the same problem arises. Everytime I combine new and old things - several problems arise. I wish that for one fucking month I could find a routine that works for me. I wish that for one month I could do manual exercises WITHOUT CONSTRICTION. I've never, ever, done a workout without at least a little constriction to keep an erection.

Maybe Penis Enlargement just isn't in the cards for me. Oh I'll keep at it, the rest of my life maybe, but for now - nothing interesting is happening. No gains, no increase in penile function, no improvement in erections. These things happen every once in a while, but they are short lived.

The learning curve of Penis Enlargement is odd. I'm still learning better ways of doing basic things. For instance, I finally, FINALLY, learned how to measure correctly. My measurements may have been overshot by .1-.2". I wish I was big enough that a mistake like that would be trivial. I get so down sometimes - had I started a little bit bigger would I be already where I'm dying to be now? Would I have worked so hard? Would a 5.5" EG seem like such a trophy to me?

I ruined myself on fast gains early on. Now that they are non-existent, I've developed a sort of self-defeating prophecy. Gains seem so rare that I'm actually beginning to wonder how possible they really are. Maybe, because of my body's physical limitations - I'll never be able to Penis Enlargement like everyone else, and I'll never make another gain. If I had to Penis Enlargement constantly for 4 hours a day, I'd probably do it. Fuck, I've tried.

Maybe I need to read back over my log. That's what it's here for, right?

TODAY'S ROUTINE

15 Minute Warm-up
10 Minute Wet Jelq/Edge
15 Minute Clamp Set
5 Minute Edge
20 Minute Clamp Set
5 Minute Edge
6 Hour FR (T-Tape)

This workout's problem: Fluid buildup, clamping generates a lot, but by jelqing beforehand it's magnified. Expansion wasn't terrific. Any attempt at exercising while clamping causes mass fluid influx. Jelqing before clamping somehow increases my capacity for bruising as well.

This workout's benefits: Relatively little work. Wet jelqing helps my erection quality (from dismal to moderate, at least.)

Well, my future ideas include: separate Penis Enlargement and pumping sets. Perhaps pumping in the morning and Penis Enlargementing at night. If I could manage doing an extended, low pressure pump session every morning that would be terrific. I want to throw out clamping - I just don't like it. Fluid buildup is a bitch for me. I may be looking into getting some Viagra. In that case, I could do a whole workout without constriction - which may allow me to get maximum expansion with minimal fluid buildup. If I don't get the Viagra, I may order a new pump. The one I have is not suited to my needs, and may be less effecient than more. Pump is ~$125 ... Viagra is ~$90 for two months supply. Maybe Santa will get me both.
 
Bro you're getting too serious and obsessed about it. I used to get that problem and occasionally I still do. Especially since my girth isnt that great. I started 6x4.5 now im like 6.5-7x4.75 After I do some clamping my girth is usually 5. I'm like you my goal is 5.5, when Im clamped and at 5.5 my dick looks so good, I just cant wait for the day I hit 5.5 solid. I used to obsess about it a lot measure so much get pissed when I didnt see gains, but then I read something DLD said that put my mind to ease that I tell myself from time to time. Even if you dont see the gains, you know Penis Enlargement works so you dont even have to worry about it. You know everytime you work out your building up your penis even better than it was before. Theres so much picture proof on this website, so many stories from people. Penis Enlargement works bottom line. You know it works, youve gained an amazing ammount of girth in a good ammount of time. Shit like this takes time, it's hard on the body, and mind. GOOD AND SOLID body changes come slowly. Obessing and getting bummed about is only bad. The cortisol levels will surge when you stress out about this which breaks down muscle, and i wouldnt be suprised if it wasnt that great for your dick either. Also like DLD says the mind is a powerful tool. You gotta think positive. I think to myself that my dick is getting bigger and that Im getting better. It sure does relieve some stress and pressure. The only thing I really get upset about these days is my erection quality isnt that great all the time like yours. I have just come to accept if I Penis Enlargement some days im gonna be fine and some im not. But I found worrying about it makes it even worse. Ive been in a couple situations since I've Penis Enlargemented were I couldnt getit up with a girl casue i was too worried if I would. So I wouldnt stress over this shit bro. You've made good gains, you know it works, just keep on doing what you're doing. You're one of my inspirations for girth work man. I see what amazing gains youve made in a short period of time.
 
Here's the routine that I recommend to you after having read your log:

Short warmup/hot wrap
10 minute basic constrictor/clamp
*50 dry jelqs at medium intensity (second day)
*5-10 minutes edging (first and third day)
alternating hot wraps/cold plunges x 3
10 minute basic constrictor/clamp
*50 dry jelqs at medium intensity (second day)
*5-10 minutes edging (first and third day)
alternating hot wraps/cold plunges x 3
500 wet jelqs at medium-high intensity
hot wrap
put on your cockring
FR if you want

NOTES:
Do the routine above for one month on a three-day on/one day off schedule. Edge only on the first and third days of the cycle. Do the dry jelqs only on the second day of the cycle. The edging and ejaculation will help your erection quality in subsequent workouts. If you are having difficulty getting erect when trying to start your clamp session you may extend the clamp time to NO MORE THAN 12 minutes. Invest in a couple of one-piece cockrings that go over just your penis - not the whole package. I'm guessing that 1" and 1.25" rings will work best for you. Wear the smaller ring during the day where you can monitor it. Try a full-length constrictor with the larger ring to see if you can wear it at night safely. If not, buy the next higher size and experiment again until you feel safe to wear it at night. Take off the cockring for a few hours - day, if your skin around the base gets irritated.

Don'ts:
A)Don't exceed the clamping time limits listed.
B)Don't pump (AT ALL).
C)Don't add ANY other exercises.
D)Don't worry!


The routine above will stimulate growth, eliminate the fluid buildup that you're experiencing and take advantage of the rest-recovery cycle for gains. You may even want to try a 2 day on/one day off cycle, in which case, you would edge on day #1 and dry jelq on day #2. My gut feeling is that you are currently stunting your own growth by overtraining. You need to utilize the rest-recovery cycle to maximize your growth. In fact, I'd even suggest that you take 5 days off after every two weeks of training. Another thing that I'd recommend is to GET ON A REGULAR SLEEP SCHEDULE. Your erections and gains will improve if you do this and it will multiply the effectiveness of the rest-recovery cycle. I promise. Tugging on your penis a dozen times when you wake up in the morning and before you go to bed will also stimulate growth and some engorgement. I'd also recommend that you tug on your penis whenever you get the chance during the day. By tugging, I mean light pulls for no longer than 8-10 seconds, straight out and straight down. This should also stimulate growth and circulation.

Less CAN be more.
 
Hoos - you might be absolutely right with this stuff.I`ve been thinking last night about the differencess between pumping and clamping,and my conclusion is(note:i`m close to be called academic citizen,i`ve been styding electronics for 3 years at a electronics university of NIS,so i might be actualy smart!!!)Pumping is causing blood and fluid influx from the body,and the pressure(vacoom) that is made by pump is the highest at the penis surface,and the lowest in penis core(in the centre of the shaft),that effects gains directly by stretching individual cells closer to the surface of the penis shaft more than those closer to the core. Fluid buildup can`t be avoided because it`s purpose is protection of damadged cells caused by higher than normal pressure in penis structure.Fluid buildup is a sign of overtraining,it is!!!You can overtrain your penis in yust few mins. you dont need hours of training for that to happen,that just means that you are applying too much pressure.On the other hand clamping is better solution bacause the pressure is highest in the core,and the lowest at the surface of penis.If you do an ULI and kegel to get max. epansion and than clamp at the extreme base of the penis,you actualy might avoid fluid buildup because you have decreased blood circulation between the body and the clamped part of the penis,limiting the speed of the response that our body has(everything that our body sends by blood to our penises is slower and appearance of fluid is lessen).In clamped penis expansion is pure blood expansion,atleast in central penis structure,you might have fluffy penis on the surface,but central structures are expanded with blood only.In pumped penis central structures are expanded with blood + fluid in the sorrounding tissues which is making your penis bigger,but just temporarly!!!Conclusion in the battle between clamping and pumping is,good clamping gives lower temporar expansion but better over time gains,pumping gives you bigger penis now,but just now!!!(gains are big ? with pumping).Usefull pressure(there where you need him for good expansion and growth)has a bigger rate in clamping than in pumping.
 
Franchise - thanks for the words of encouragement brother. I sometimes forget that I have made gains. I tend to have overly drastic expectations of myself, and attribute failure to lack of ability. In this case it may just be a lack of patience. It's good to have people remind me that life has just as many cookies as heartbreaks. Thanks again.

HOOSYODADDI - jesus man, you don't fuck around with posts. It seems what you are recommending is a slight conditioning/deconditioning with every workout interval. I'm going to try out an old routine with dry jelqing/edging/slammers but I'll keep your reccomendation in mind if that doesn't work out. I think I'd like to try the continuous cock ring wear thing again. I don't have my hard rings anymore, I'll go buy a set in a day or two. I actually never wore them much - I never liked the feeling. But I'm thinking I might appreciate them more now. I don't like the "stretchy" constriction feeling much anymore, and will probably prefer the "hard" constriction. Also, I tried a few short pumping sets this morning with a little edging. Didn't go for expansion, just blood influx. I managed a killer wood by the time I stopped. I'd like to keep doing that.

ProAC - thanks for the info. I don't know that I agree with all of it though. I've always had fluid buildup, and it is not preventable with a clamp. I even get it when I jelq. I don't think it's a sign of overtraining - some people are just more apt to get it (myself.) Funny thing is it happens much more readily when I do exercise that involve putting pressure on the circ scar, coronal ridge, and head.

Just wanted to respond to you guys, I'll make an entry later. Thanks for the input.
 
profesionalac said:
Hoos - you might be absolutely right with this stuff.I`ve been thinking last night about the differencess between pumping and clamping,and my conclusion is(note:i`m close to be called academic citizen,i`ve been styding electronics for 3 years at a electronics university of NIS,so i might be actualy smart!!!)Pumping is causing blood and fluid influx from the body,and the pressure(vacoom) that is made by pump is the highest at the penis surface,and the lowest in penis core(in the centre of the shaft),that effects gains directly by stretching individual cells closer to the surface of the penis shaft more than those closer to the core. Fluid buildup can`t be avoided because it`s purpose is protection of damadged cells caused by higher than normal pressure in penis structure.Fluid buildup is a sign of overtraining,it is!!!You can overtrain your penis in yust few mins. you dont need hours of training for that to happen,that just means that you are applying too much pressure.On the other hand clamping is better solution bacause the pressure is highest in the core,and the lowest at the surface of penis.If you do an ULI and kegel to get max. epansion and than clamp at the extreme base of the penis,you actualy might avoid fluid buildup because you have decreased blood circulation between the body and the clamped part of the penis,limiting the speed of the response that our body has(everything that our body sends by blood to our penises is slower and appearance of fluid is lessen).In clamped penis expansion is pure blood expansion,atleast in central penis structure,you might have fluffy penis on the surface,but central structures are expanded with blood only.In pumped penis central structures are expanded with blood + fluid in the sorrounding tissues which is making your penis bigger,but just temporarly!!!Conclusion in the battle between clamping and pumping is,good clamping gives lower temporar expansion but better over time gains,pumping gives you bigger penis now,but just now!!!(gains are big ? with pumping).Usefull pressure(there where you need him for good expansion and growth)has a bigger rate in clamping than in pumping.

Superb post, I really agree with this......
On the other hand clamping is better solution bacause the pressure is highest in the core,and the lowest at the surface of penis
I understand exactly what you mean.
 
It's been a few days - I just finished up my finals, came home, and started working. I don't feel like spouting off personal shit like I usually do, but I promise I'll have it for you later. Don't hold your breath.

Anyways I took a few days off of Penis Enlargement, namely because I was busy as fuck but also because I wanted to decide how I wanted to pursue it from now on. Well, somehow, this shit always works out. I've made another breakthrough.

There was probably two months straight that I never got an erection without the assistance or addition of my lasso cock-ring. In fact, I doubt that I ever got a real erection at any point - anytime I went to masturbate, have sex, or Penis Enlargement I strapped the guy on my penis. What's interesting is that it seems like the erections I had were really soft and the only thing that kept me from losing them was my choker. So in effect - I had a big balloon full of blood.

So, I decided I can't depend on a cock ring for erections for the rest of my life. Not a day after I made the decision to quit using it several things happened. First, I just finished a horrible sex session with my girlfriend where one factor happened to include my erection problems and aggravated by my cock ring problems. Oddly enough, I lost my lasso that night. Fair enough, I was planning on picking up a set of hard rings the next day. The next day at work I stepped on the bathroom and started doing some of my tugs that HOOSYODADDI recommended, slapping it around a little bit. I started to get an erection. And holy fuck, wouldn't you know it - it was rock solid, head engorged, ready for battle. I usually have to constanly stimulate myself to keep an erection - this one stayed for a few minutes without me even touching it. So I decided to do a few dry jelqs to see how it reacted. I expected it to shrink back down after a few jelqs - nope. I dry jelqed for 10 minutes until I realized I had been in the bathroom for like 25 minutes playing with my penis. I walked back into work with an erection. Later that night, I decided to try my first session without erection assistance. Just me and my dick doing Penis Enlargement like it was meant to be done. It was more of just an experiment to see how it acted without a ring - and suprisingly again, I managed a whole session of dry jelqs. And there was no fluid at all. I felt like a million fucking dollars. I strapped on one of my new hard rings afterwards and took a shower, and after a while switched to some FR.

After a few hours I picked up the lady. Let me tell you, I rocked this woman's world. It had been so long since I'd had sex without a ring - it was killer. I was bottoming out like nobody's business without the ring, I was ROCK hard the entire time. I came pretty fucking hard - and her... goddamn she made me feel like I was a sybian incarnate. She came three times back to back. As soon as I thought she'd had enough I kept going and she came again. I am a fucking stud.

I'm about to hit a session in a few minutes - I'll be dry jelqing. For those of you who have been paying attention - it was dry jelqing that gave me the injury last time. I'm having to modify my jelqs slightly by squeezing the blood out my head about halfway through the jelq so it doesn't explode and start bleeding. I'd try some Uli's too if my erections weren't so hard that I couldn't manage to squeeze the base. Also, I'm not hot wrapping. This may be a recipe for disaster, but my erections seems to be stronger when I don't hot wrap, go figure.
 
I'm so happy for you!!!

Now that you are getting good erections, it would be a great time to implement the rest of the routine that I recommended. You are in a perfect position to start the constrictors. On every third day, you can follow the constrictors with 50 dry jelqs. You will find that your erection level will be perfect for dry jelqs after doing a constrictor. 50 dry jelqs are just right to restore normal circulation, get some additonal girth work done and not hurt yourself. The edging days will help improve your erection quality. The hot and cold plunges would probably best be done right after the constrictors. As far as the wet jelqs go, I'd even say you could drop that number to 400.

Give the complete routine a try - I promise it will work.

Regards,

HOOS
 
AlloyCG said:
After a few hours I picked up the lady. Let me tell you, I rocked this woman's world. It had been so long since I'd had sex without a ring - it was killer. I was bottoming out like nobody's business without the ring, I was ROCK hard the entire time. I came pretty fucking hard - and her... goddamn she made me feel like I was a sybian incarnate. She came three times back to back. As soon as I thought she'd had enough I kept going and she came again. I am a fucking stud.

Nice Stud!:D
 
HOOSYODADDI - tried the workout. It was ok, got a pretty decent pump. Dry jelqing below 100% seems worthless to me though, like I was just moving blood around and not forcing the chambers open. It was also hard to keep below 100% and not completely lose my erection. The real downfall was the sex test later that night, when I could barely keep it up with a condom on. When I took it off and she gave it a little working I was back to it, but fuck. That doesn't happen when I don't do constrictors. I also gave the hot/cold dips a shot at the end of the workout. The hardest problem wasn't finding the right size glass, it was finding an appropriate water temperature for the hot dip. I could stick my finger in there and it wouldn't be too hot, then I would stick my penis in there and scream a yelp of pain.

I will continue doing my dry jelq routine. I've been throwing on some horsies and dual jelqs (dry, fucking killer when I can pull them off at 100%) at the end and really liking the results. The erect girth isn't budging much to my perception, but my flaccid has been insane.

My routine tonite looked as such:

15 Minutes Dry Jelqing (10 jelqs per hand/roughly 30-40 seconds per "set")
5 Minutes Edging
10 Minutes Dry Jelqing
6 Minutes alternating Dry Dual Jelqs and Horsies
Cock ring wear

A word about the cock ring. This may seem odd at my girth, but the 1.25" is even a little big for me. I attribute this to the fact the my shaft skin seems to be rather "thick" - therefore gripping the inner penis is somewhat more difficult than if my skin were thin. THEN AGAIN - I'm not completely sure how hard rings work. The ring will stay in place when I'm not hard, and is pretty fucking tight when I am hard - but it offers little ADCish capability (ex. having it on my flaccid does not necessarily keep a little blood in it.) Perhaps that's not the function and the ring is a nice fit. A 1.25" is TIGHT when I'm erect, I'm sure a 1" would make it fall off.
 
AlloyCG said:
HOOSYODADDI - tried the workout. It was ok, got a pretty decent pump. Dry jelqing below 100% seems worthless to me though, like I was just moving blood around and not forcing the chambers open. It was also hard to keep below 100% and not completely lose my erection. The real downfall was the sex test later that night, when I could barely keep it up with a condom on. When I took it off and she gave it a little working I was back to it, but fuck. That doesn't happen when I don't do constrictors. I also gave the hot/cold dips a shot at the end of the workout. The hardest problem wasn't finding the right size glass, it was finding an appropriate water temperature for the hot dip. I could stick my finger in there and it wouldn't be too hot, then I would stick my penis in there and scream a yelp of pain.
How many minutes did you clamp? It is normal to have difficulties getting an erection soon after a clamp session. I had problems getting erect after clamp sessions when I first started. That is a documented newbie reaction as well as a normal reaction if you have done a session that is more intense than what you are accustomed. My first suggestion would be to adjust your EXPenis EnlargementCTATIONS to a more reasonable level. If you are having sex daily with your gf, don't be surprised if your erection quality suffers on the same day as your girth session.

As far as the hot dips go, sounds like you are using it as another excuse not to stick to the plan. Find another way to do the recovery exercise:i.e.-use hot wraps instead hot dips.

The dry jelqs are not to be done at full % erection. You think that they are not doing anything. I've never done them at 100% and have gotten great expansion. In fact, I get better expansion targeting at around 50-60%. Remember that this is NOT your old routine and the reason that you are doing things differently is to see if they net you a better, safer result. It's self-defeating for you to discount and quit the plan after only one or two days.

Happy Holidays,

HOOS
 
HOOSYODADDI said:
As far as the hot dips go, sounds like you are using it as another excuse not to stick to the plan.

You are an asshole. A plan that worked wonders for you may not be effective for me. This was the case. It's rather difficult to stay on a routine when the returns are negative and you can't make it through the routine without fluid/losing erections. I appreciate the help, and I did give your routine a few weeks. Only because I said I would, and you are my friend.

I've found something that's working well for me at the moment. If nothing else, it's keeping my spirits up. I pump in the morning for 3x 8 minute sets and then top it off with a 8 minute clamp set. By the end of that, a little fluid has set in, so I FR for 4-5 hours. After about 6 hours from my AM workout I'll do 4 sets of 8 minute clamp sets with constant stimulation. I find that keeping the sets short, making sure I'm staying hard physically, and not because of the clamp I can avoid fluid buildup COMPLETELY (for this second set, that is.) At night, I do a short pump and clamp set. I've grown a little bit on this plan, and my erections are doing just fine. By the second and third day of my rotations I don't get bruising at all.

To anyone who cares: this is just an update. I've been having some trouble with the internet so when I get on is few and far between. I'm about to move, so hopefully after the move I can be as active as I was.

I think you would be proud to know that I haven't missed a single day of Penis Enlargement. I have found other areas of focus in my life as well. I miss you guys. Take care.
 
AlloyCG said:
You are an asshole. A plan that worked wonders for you may not be effective for me. This was the case. It's rather difficult to stay on a routine when the returns are negative and you can't make it through the routine without fluid/losing erections. I appreciate the help, and I did give your routine a few weeks. Only because I said I would, and you are my friend.

I've found something that's working well for me at the moment. If nothing else, it's keeping my spirits up. I pump in the morning for 3x 8 minute sets and then top it off with a 8 minute clamp set. By the end of that, a little fluid has set in, so I FR for 4-5 hours. After about 6 hours from my AM workout I'll do 4 sets of 8 minute clamp sets with constant stimulation. I find that keeping the sets short, making sure I'm staying hard physically, and not because of the clamp I can avoid fluid buildup COMPLETELY (for this second set, that is.) At night, I do a short pump and clamp set. I've grown a little bit on this plan, and my erections are doing just fine. By the second and third day of my rotations I don't get bruising at all.

To anyone who cares: this is just an update. I've been having some trouble with the internet so when I get on is few and far between. I'm about to move, so hopefully after the move I can be as active as I was.

I think you would be proud to know that I haven't missed a single day of Penis Enlargement. I have found other areas of focus in my life as well. I miss you guys. Take care.
Whoa there, Nelly! Kind of a strong reaction for you after coming back from being absent (from the forum) for 3 weeks. No need for name calling :) . I'm sure that there are other things going on with you that provoked that reaction so I DEFINITELY will not take it personally.

Glad that you are experiencing gains now. I gotta say, though, that 5 x 8minute clamp sets are probably overkill. That's 40 minutes clamping. You could probably do fine with just one or two 10min sets. If you are accustomed to clamping, you could do just one 10 minute set combined with squeezes and get great results. I find these VERY effective and intense. It DOES take some time to get conditioned to clamping. You have to be patient. I am only now able to do squeezes combined with the basic constrictors - and am getting great gains because of my persistence. I expect to get even better gains once I am even more conditioned and can be even more brutal to my dick.
lol
Take care and keep us updated.

HOOS
 
Miss seein' you around Alloy, hope everything is going well.
 
AlloyCG said:
SAD DAY ALERT

Rest day! Oh no! What am I going to do with myself? No playing with my penis, what?

After discussing with Stuff some, I decided a rest day was in order. I think that all of these crazy routines I've been doing day in and day out are just not giving my penis a chance to grow. I'm not making gains, but I'm doing great workouts. But I figure if I'm willing to experiment with different exercises and routine's to make gains, I might as well experiment with rest days. A lot of guys swear by them.

Actually =) I saw a man at Thunder's swear up and down that he is making better gains doing like 10 minute jelqing sessions every other day. This man is my nemesis. But really, I'm going to scour this forum and others to find out what I can find about the general consensus of rest days, especially in the extreme girth vein. Hopefully something works out and I'll be able to present it to my Soldier brothers. Maybe even seemingly counterproductive activity can turn out to be a blessing.

Peace up, A-town down.

lol...don't know why I clicked on your thread but I saw it on the girth attack soldiers link in someone else's signature and that right there was hilarious.
 
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