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What does protecting the glands do for you?
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What does protecting the glands do for you?
Do you have any sample programs listed?
I'm waiting on mine still for almost a month. I a sent a few emails 2 weeks prior mentioning the MOS stuff that other people claimed. Either how they got a discount or a free tube.never heard back, not even a no we can't do that for you. I Was told about the lousy customer service on other forums, but that the pump is amazing and went a head and purchased it. This was almost a month ago. I sent an email asking about the status with no response. If I don't hear back soon I'm just going to cancel my order.
I'm waiting on mine still for almost a month. I a sent a few emails 2 weeks prior mentioning the MOS stuff that other people claimed. Either how they got a discount or a free tube.never heard back, not even a no we can't do that for you. I Was told about the lousy customer service on other forums, but that the pump is amazing and went a head and purchased it. This was almost a month ago. I sent an email asking about the status with no response. If I don't hear back soon I'm just going to cancel my order.
templnite;674773 said:
I am going to make a general assumptions . For most it's Dynamic pumping and doing it hands free. I had 2 bathmates and bought a different cheap (not referring to ctc) pulsating pump to do dynamic pumping and the soreness and expansion has been greater than anything I ever had with a Bathmate or even clamping and manuals.
The pulsating for me and I'm guessing most since its constant pressure changes is always bringing in fresh blood and I can keep an erection much longer than I can in a normal pump.
I can pump for much longer time and get less fluid build up cause the constant pressure changes for me atleast seems to draw in less fluid.
I also like being able to stick to a consistent routine. I get the same exact workout for my exact time every time until I'm ready to change. No clock watching or guess work.
Some of these you can do both air and water pumping. I also favor these over the bathmate for being able to use them with a constants heat source better. I'm also like being able to stage. Where I can a small tube and pack it then the next set use a bigger tube. I think this also is contributing to faster expansion with getting better fit tubes to control negative space.
I feel the constant pressure changes stretches expands and works the tunica better than pumping and staying at one pressure or gradually going up. one thing people do is once warned up and stretch the feel they can pump at higher pressure for a short period for say 30 seconds stretching and then going to a safer or lower level and expanding from there.
This is all just imho. I have no experience with this particular product and been so far unhappy with the customer service .
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So pumping is your main stressor? I use pumping to complement the other things, and have been doing quite good with that. I have the Xtreme, and use the most vacuum possible which is very intense to say the least. I don't think id go with a different pump mostly because bathmate's track record, and that I don't know about too many people who successfully stage/dynamic pump.
It's not my main stressor atleast not yet. Jelqs for me I feel personally are still the best, but again for me dynamic pumping seems like jelqig. 2.0
I think it depends on where you look for might have different views of success. Like here the bathmate is highly favored over air or traditional pumps. Most people that post here find the bathmate works great for them. I had two of them and had nothing but issues and not much success. That doesn't mean it's nessaricly a bad product cause it didn't work for me. It's One of those things where what works for one doesn't mean it works for others.On a lot of dedicated pumping forums staging and dynamic pumping seem to be where it's at for them.You see lots of people that say that bathmate didn't work and had more success with the other method.So me viewing it that way it could be viewed the same way as yours. I just seem to respond better pulsation than I do at high consistent pressure.
I think it depends on where you look for might have different views of success. Like here the bathmate is highly favored over air or traditional pumps. Most people that post here find the bathmate works great for them. I had two of them and had nothing but issues and not much success. That doesn't mean it's nessaricly a bad product cause it didn't work for me. It's One of those things where what works for one doesn't mean it works for others.On a lot of dedicated pumping forums staging and dynamic pumping seem to be where it's at for them.You see lots of people that say that bathmate didn't work and had more success with the other method.So me viewing it that way it could be viewed the same way as yours. I just seem to respond better pulsation than I do at high consistent pressure.
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Yes they do gain ,But I think we are viewing two different things possibly . There are guys who are into freak or fetish packing as I call it. They get as much fluid retention and get as huge as possible and packing massive tubes for the sake of just trying to get as big as possible.im sure pumping your cock up that extreme they might gain something but I don't think they are big gainers. But Im also not into that nor visit forums that do.
Im aiming for healthy expansion with little to no fluid build up. What I mean when I'm saying I'm packing is trying to use a tube only somewhat bigger than my erect girth to eliminate as much negative space to fill up. Then once it gets tight, I then use a bigger tube. I think for me using a more fitted tube is also a big factor why I feel better expansion and couldn't seem to with a bathmate.
Im aiming for healthy expansion with little to no fluid build up. What I mean when I'm saying I'm packing is trying to use a tube only somewhat bigger than my erect girth to eliminate as much negative space to fill up. Then once it gets tight, I then use a bigger tube. I think for me using a more fitted tube is also a big factor why I feel better expansion and couldn't seem to with a bathmate.
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templnite;674832 said:
Maybe time to move up a model in size for you too? Are you on an X30 or 40?
As far as the tube packing goes. I can't imagine that it generates really good gains, all that retention in my head, I would think actually slows down the growth and prevents the Tunica itself from expanding by getting fluid between it and the skin. I could be wrong, but everything I have learned from MoS points to excessive FR being an inhibitor to good gains. Now given most of deal with FR to at least some extent, I am referring to the excessive FR I see in the guys doing the massive tube packing.
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acromegaly;675483 said:
Hmm, I hadn't heard that before. You feel like you get better expansion that way? I am using the X40 but I am only about 5.75 MEG right now ( and only about .1" more at the base ), do you think expansion would be better with a X30 then?
EDIT: Just looked at the stats on the X30 and I don't think I can fit length wise in that model, so it is a moot point for me. However, still interesting conversation for others who might be buying too big of a tube.
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