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ctmwm;635888 said:
Yeah i think thats a good way to go, swapping back and forth occasionally. Until that magic day you need to start swapping between a 2" and 2.25"!!!!! Thanks for the info, you've got the right attitude dialed in I reckon. Are you doing any other exercises or stretches to accompany your pumping routine? And what about warm up/heating? I sometimes use an IR lamp but find washcloths give a great warm up. Rice socks around the tube are pretty good for heat I've found too. I'll get stuck into my routine again and keep in touch with you to see how things are progressing.
Things are progressing VERY nicely!! I have see gains of 1/2 in girth over the past 4 months pumping 5-6 days a week. I use a rice sock heated in the microwave for approx 3 min to get things good. Oh and I heat the tube a bit just so its not freezing cold when I apply it. I use baby oil for lube in a spray bottle. I average 30 min a session, but have gone an hour with a 30 min break to fluff. I do not require a hardon at all, but it is nice at times. I have bruised at one time when I DID NOT preheat and over pumped without a 30 min break. I went for about 50-60 min with no heat and no break and have some discoloration in a sight wave effect but it is going away with time. over all I HIGHLY endorse it, the 2000 was awesome but it was just a much larger foot print where this one can sit on your desk or table and no one knows nuttin!
I finally took the plunge and order the DP-4000. I received it about a few days ago, and I couldn’t be happier. The price is steep - very steep, but like many other guys that have left reviews about it, I too have to say that “I wish I would’ve gotten one sooner.” The only way I’ll ever use my manual pump again is if the unit breaks down. It’s a game changer.
The unit is much smaller than I thought and seems to be perfect and unassuming for travel (not sure how it would be looked at by airport security during a bag check, though). Installing the software was straightforward; I’m on a MAC so I had to connect it to a VM running Windows 7, but there were no issues at all. Once I selected the right COM port, everything synced right up. (One word of note: always startup the software BEFORE turning on the unit. Doing it the other way won’t sync correctly with the unit - at least that’s what I’ve experienced.)
Chris at CTC send me a beginner profile and following that example, I built 3 pump profiles of my own in only a few minutes. The unit groans a bit when it’s on and running to equalize pressure, but it’s not a long drone of sound like other electric pumps; it only makes noise in short bursts when it’s leveling up to your set pressure for the next step in the cycle. I got some materials from Michael's (total cost was $16) and made a small (somewhat) sound proof box to house it. Now it runs virtually silent.
The software is simple in its setup and highly effective. Creating a profile can take as little as 10-15 seconds or 10-15 minutes - it lets you get extremely granular in how you set up the pressure levels and correlate them with the length of time at that level. It also displays upper and lower thresholds to adjust and mix the levels with. When running, the profile displays a running line graph that gives pressure along the timeline, almost like watching an EKG. I really like this as you can pinpoint exactly how long your sessions last, to the second, as well as graph your progress over multiple profiles for extended sessions, and know when to implement them.
I’ve set up a pretty good routine where my sessions cover 4 profiles, running at roughly 15 minutes each. The first set is cock-only with the “start-up” profile provided by Chris, a custom profile for the next set at higher pressures, back to the startup profile since it has pressure settings good for ball pumping, and then back to cock-only using another custom profile for cool-down where I cover a wide range of pressure levels back. You can even export your line graph reading from the session.
Initially I was a bit disappointed when I saw that the pressure maximum was set at 15Hg since I am quite use to high pressure pumping. But I quickly learned that pumping pressure from a hand pump versus one from a machine are quite different. With the DP-4000, I was feeling I was reaching my threshold pretty good and the vacuum level was only at 10Hg; those were the same sensations and feelings I usually felt when I was closer to my ceiling around 20Hg with my hand pump. So that was quite a pleasant surprise and made me feel much much better about my purchase since I still have some more room for growth (pressure-wise). And the fact that it constantly and consistently maintains the pressure you set is very cool.
If for nothing else, the way you can program your own pulse pump sessions is reason alone for buying unit. Pulse pumping with a hand gauge can be done, but it’s cumbersome, tiring and requires an active level of concentration/participation thru the entire session. With the DP-4000, I can set the program and do whatever else I want while the machine does the heavy lifting; the pulse and the shifts in pressure are taken care of automatically. And the way the pulse feels when I’m ball pumping is incredible; I’d never been able to achieve the same effect with my hand pump. And when I’m in my big bucket STJ, wow - it feels great!
Even though I’ve only got a few days worth of usage with it, I can already and confidently state that this is, by far, the best PE-related purchase I have made in a long time. Granted, at nearly $500 with shipping, it’s pretty expensive, but in my opinion, well worth every cent.
The unit is much smaller than I thought and seems to be perfect and unassuming for travel (not sure how it would be looked at by airport security during a bag check, though). Installing the software was straightforward; I’m on a MAC so I had to connect it to a VM running Windows 7, but there were no issues at all. Once I selected the right COM port, everything synced right up. (One word of note: always startup the software BEFORE turning on the unit. Doing it the other way won’t sync correctly with the unit - at least that’s what I’ve experienced.)
Chris at CTC send me a beginner profile and following that example, I built 3 pump profiles of my own in only a few minutes. The unit groans a bit when it’s on and running to equalize pressure, but it’s not a long drone of sound like other electric pumps; it only makes noise in short bursts when it’s leveling up to your set pressure for the next step in the cycle. I got some materials from Michael's (total cost was $16) and made a small (somewhat) sound proof box to house it. Now it runs virtually silent.
The software is simple in its setup and highly effective. Creating a profile can take as little as 10-15 seconds or 10-15 minutes - it lets you get extremely granular in how you set up the pressure levels and correlate them with the length of time at that level. It also displays upper and lower thresholds to adjust and mix the levels with. When running, the profile displays a running line graph that gives pressure along the timeline, almost like watching an EKG. I really like this as you can pinpoint exactly how long your sessions last, to the second, as well as graph your progress over multiple profiles for extended sessions, and know when to implement them.
I’ve set up a pretty good routine where my sessions cover 4 profiles, running at roughly 15 minutes each. The first set is cock-only with the “start-up” profile provided by Chris, a custom profile for the next set at higher pressures, back to the startup profile since it has pressure settings good for ball pumping, and then back to cock-only using another custom profile for cool-down where I cover a wide range of pressure levels back. You can even export your line graph reading from the session.
Initially I was a bit disappointed when I saw that the pressure maximum was set at 15Hg since I am quite use to high pressure pumping. But I quickly learned that pumping pressure from a hand pump versus one from a machine are quite different. With the DP-4000, I was feeling I was reaching my threshold pretty good and the vacuum level was only at 10Hg; those were the same sensations and feelings I usually felt when I was closer to my ceiling around 20Hg with my hand pump. So that was quite a pleasant surprise and made me feel much much better about my purchase since I still have some more room for growth (pressure-wise). And the fact that it constantly and consistently maintains the pressure you set is very cool.
If for nothing else, the way you can program your own pulse pump sessions is reason alone for buying unit. Pulse pumping with a hand gauge can be done, but it’s cumbersome, tiring and requires an active level of concentration/participation thru the entire session. With the DP-4000, I can set the program and do whatever else I want while the machine does the heavy lifting; the pulse and the shifts in pressure are taken care of automatically. And the way the pulse feels when I’m ball pumping is incredible; I’d never been able to achieve the same effect with my hand pump. And when I’m in my big bucket STJ, wow - it feels great!
Even though I’ve only got a few days worth of usage with it, I can already and confidently state that this is, by far, the best PE-related purchase I have made in a long time. Granted, at nearly $500 with shipping, it’s pretty expensive, but in my opinion, well worth every cent.
MMandingo;640521 said:
MMandingo, GREAT post! I have yet to mess with the programming although I want to try is soon so I can sell my XL2000 and re-coup some cash. Can you load all 4 profiles on to the unit and change them at will or do you need the computer to be connected to change from one profile to the other?
ctmwm;640524 said:
Unfortunately, you can only load one profile directly to the unit at a time. But in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal. Swapping out a profile only tales a couple of seconds. I have my profiles named for the type and sequence, i.e. CockOnly1, CockOnly2, Full1, Full2, etc. (Full = Full package ball pump). And I'd rather much run everything from the laptop so I follow the running graph and change profiles on the fly.
I was pretty determined to get an electric one, having made one from an old aquarium pump a couple years ago. I was looking at a couple of other ones and settled on this one primarily due to the way you can save profiles. The other stuff this thing can do was a pleasant surprise and icing on the cake. VacuTech has one out now that's smaller, looks and probably quieter, but it's nearly $150 more and doesn't allow you to build and save profiles.
I really don't like to be tethered too much to my laptop so I got a really long USB extension and longer tubing. I installed Splashtop so I now can control everything from my iPhone and my iPad - pretty sweet. And I'm also working on encapsulating the program so that it can run directly on my Mac without having to use Windows VM (I really can't stand that). I was able to get the program converted, but the COM ports aren't being recognized.
kidray12a;640523 said:
Will do.
Although I only have about 7 sessions under my belt (I pump twice a day for about an hour each session - I try to space it so they are about 12 hours apart), I can already tell a difference from when I use my manual. I can't really tell that much of a difference in the time it takes to pack a tube but I can tell that I pack it more evenly. And with the way I have my profiles set to alternate the time and vac levels, post-pump bloat is minimized pretty drastically. I feel the expansion much more in the core now and less from the edema puffing the skin. Not to sound like a fan boy but this thing kicks ass!
Don't overlook the Threshold setting, it controls how soon the pump reacts to correct for a change in vacuum levels. Example, you pump to 5.0 for 30 seconds. Due to pubic hair air leak (or whatever), the pressure drops a little. The threshold setting determines just how soon the pump turns on to correct for that.
It is a great device, in that it can free you up to multitask, without having to deal with a hand pump. ~ Sweet ~
It is a great device, in that it can free you up to multitask, without having to deal with a hand pump. ~ Sweet ~
Yea, I would have gotten me one a long time ago if it was not as expensive as it is now. Looks good to be honest. I have read a lot about the differences between air (vacuum) and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropumping[/words] and it seems hydro is better though (BUT there is a chance that the readings were written by manufacturers of hydropumps to just get more people to buy their stuff).
You, Supra, how do you compare the water pumps to this one? There is a user around- youknowme, who once tried a pump very similar to the DP4000, a massage device and he said that both this pump and his [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] have their PROs and CONs. What are this pump's (the DP4000's) PROs and CONs when compared to any other pump?
You, Supra, how do you compare the water pumps to this one? There is a user around- youknowme, who once tried a pump very similar to the DP4000, a massage device and he said that both this pump and his [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] have their PROs and CONs. What are this pump's (the DP4000's) PROs and CONs when compared to any other pump?
Same thing i want 2 knowZambrodom3;642784 said:Yea, I would have gotten me one a long time ago if it was not as expensive as it is now. Looks good to be honest. I have read a lot about the differences between air (vacuum) and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropumping[/words] and it seems hydro is better though (BUT there is a chance that the readings were written by manufacturers of hydropumps to just get more people to buy their stuff).
You, Supra, how do you compare the water pumps to this one? There is a user around- youknowme, who once tried a pump very similar to the DP4000, a massage device and he said that both this pump and his [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] have their PROs and CONs. What are this pump's (the DP4000's) PROs and CONs when compared to any other pump?
You asked Supra but I'll chime in and give my thoughts as well. Had my DP4000 for a few weeks now and I love it. The ONLY con, if you can even call it that since it's the very thing that makes it a PRO, is the PC connection. I just wish it were more self contained. Other than that, in my opinion, I have no CONS for it at all. I've already taken care of the noise issue by building a box for it (which I will be upgrading soon).
As far as PROS, there are plenty:
- Hands free
- Accurate pressure readings
- Graphed sessions
- Ability to create/run infinite amount of pressure profiles
- Cuts down on edema (I'm able to pump without getting fluid buildup over the same period of time with my manual pump - so my sessions can go for longer periods)
- The vacuum feels more even - not sure how that works but it just "feels" that way
- Works GREAT with water pumping (I ordered an inline trap that came in a couple of days ago and it works with the system perfectly!)
It works great with all of my cylinders:
2.25 x 10
2.50 x 10
3.5 x 10
LongJohnny
ASTJ
I'm sure I can give more but those were the first ones that came to mind. Again, the only CON in my mind is that it's not as self contained as I'd like and I wish more profiles could be loaded to the system's memory. But that's a minor thing. Way too many PROs to let that one sway you.
As far as PROS, there are plenty:
- Hands free
- Accurate pressure readings
- Graphed sessions
- Ability to create/run infinite amount of pressure profiles
- Cuts down on edema (I'm able to pump without getting fluid buildup over the same period of time with my manual pump - so my sessions can go for longer periods)
- The vacuum feels more even - not sure how that works but it just "feels" that way
- Works GREAT with water pumping (I ordered an inline trap that came in a couple of days ago and it works with the system perfectly!)
It works great with all of my cylinders:
2.25 x 10
2.50 x 10
3.5 x 10
LongJohnny
ASTJ
I'm sure I can give more but those were the first ones that came to mind. Again, the only CON in my mind is that it's not as self contained as I'd like and I wish more profiles could be loaded to the system's memory. But that's a minor thing. Way too many PROs to let that one sway you.
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MMandingo;643041 said:
Wow! That was an AMAZING reply mate! So you say the DP4000 can work with water? So it can be used as a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydropump[/words] as well or what?
P.S- If yes, where did you order the Hydro edition to the pump from?
Where do they sell these? Can you link please?
i havent shopped around online for them so i cant tell you where is a cheap one, but i know they sell them at auto stores for the break fluid kits and here is one on a pump website https://www.pumptoys.com/catalog/All-Products-7/Vaculogic-In-Line-Water-Trap-73.html
acromegaly;643425 said:
Thanks a lot mate!
jekyllnhyde360
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Supra, how did you gain all your width?
Where you naturally wider shaped or did you have a particular exercise that created the huge width?
Where you naturally wider shaped or did you have a particular exercise that created the huge width?
Zambrodom3;643287 said:Wow! That was an AMAZING reply mate! So you say the DP4000 can work with water? So it can be used as a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydropump[/words] as well or what?
P.S- If yes, where did you order the Hydro edition to the pump from?
Found an inline trap on eBay from a company call enlargementworkz - works great!! This is the one I purchased but they have a cheaper model as well: In Line Water Trap for Electric Vacuum Pump Quick Connect Fitting Canister Penis | eBay
If any of you guys are looking for a cheap way to really cut down the noise on the DP400, here are some pics of the box I built:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7ddhnyfshrsd3zp/AABYpwCGv3_4vIrohqXqpmv1a?dl=0#/
It’s really easy and total cost is about $15. I went to Michael’s Craft Store (you can also find the materials at Wal-Mart but Michaels is closer to my home) and got a heavy cardboard box - the ones used for storage - about the size of a large shoe box. Get some seat padding and cut out a piece for the top and the bottom of the box. You’ll need to decrease the thickness of the padding and the layers peel apart really easily. Get a can of spray adhesive and paste the padding to the top and bottom. The box I got had a label area on one side so I cut that part out so the USB and power cord could come out. On the other side, I made a small hole just large enough for the tubing. The extra padding I place inside to help to muffle the sound more.
It’s crude and simple, but it works. I’m designing a better box now, but for the time being, this one does the trick.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7ddhnyfshrsd3zp/AABYpwCGv3_4vIrohqXqpmv1a?dl=0#/
It’s really easy and total cost is about $15. I went to Michael’s Craft Store (you can also find the materials at Wal-Mart but Michaels is closer to my home) and got a heavy cardboard box - the ones used for storage - about the size of a large shoe box. Get some seat padding and cut out a piece for the top and the bottom of the box. You’ll need to decrease the thickness of the padding and the layers peel apart really easily. Get a can of spray adhesive and paste the padding to the top and bottom. The box I got had a label area on one side so I cut that part out so the USB and power cord could come out. On the other side, I made a small hole just large enough for the tubing. The extra padding I place inside to help to muffle the sound more.
It’s crude and simple, but it works. I’m designing a better box now, but for the time being, this one does the trick.
Thanks a LOT bro! You are very helpful!
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I just lay a pillow over mine to reduce the noise.
MMandingo;644310 said:
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Anyone try getting the software to run on mac? i.e. wine or vmware?
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MMandingo;647744 said:
Nice work! I figured out vmware last week and it's working out well too.
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Supra, I am looking to add an air pump to my training tool set. If I have [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] already, do you think the fairly hefty investment in the DP4000 is worth it? The price just sets me back a bit.
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tbone350;659658 said:
Pics aren't showing for me.
tbone350;659658 said:
What does protecting the glands do for you?
Do you have any sample programs listed?
I'm waiting on mine still for almost a month. I a sent a few emails 2 weeks prior mentioning the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] stuff that other people claimed. Either how they got a discount or a free tube.never heard back, not even a no we can't do that for you. I Was told about the lousy customer service on other forums, but that the pump is amazing and went a head and purchased it. This was almost a month ago. I sent an email asking about the status with no response. If I don't hear back soon I'm just going to cancel my order.
I'm waiting on mine still for almost a month. I a sent a few emails 2 weeks prior mentioning the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] stuff that other people claimed. Either how they got a discount or a free tube.never heard back, not even a no we can't do that for you. I Was told about the lousy customer service on other forums, but that the pump is amazing and went a head and purchased it. This was almost a month ago. I sent an email asking about the status with no response. If I don't hear back soon I'm just going to cancel my order.
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What's the allure of these programmable pumps?
templnite;674773 said:
I am going to make a general assumptions . For most it's Dynamic pumping and doing it hands free. I had 2 bathmates and bought a different cheap (not referring to ctc) pulsating pump to do dynamic pumping and the soreness and expansion has been greater than anything I ever had with a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] or even clamping and manuals.
The pulsating for me and I'm guessing most since its constant pressure changes is always bringing in fresh blood and I can keep an erection much longer than I can in a normal pump.
I can pump for much longer time and get less fluid build up cause the constant pressure changes for me atleast seems to draw in less fluid.
I also like being able to stick to a consistent routine. I get the same exact workout for my exact time every time until I'm ready to change. No clock watching or guess work.
Some of these you can do both air and water pumping. I also favor these over the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for being able to use them with a constants heat source better. I'm also like being able to stage. Where I can a small tube and pack it then the next set use a bigger tube. I think this also is contributing to faster expansion with getting better fit tubes to control negative space.
I feel the constant pressure changes stretches expands and works the tunica better than pumping and staying at one pressure or gradually going up. one thing people do is once warned up and stretch the feel they can pump at higher pressure for a short period for say 30 seconds stretching and then going to a safer or lower level and expanding from there.
This is all just imho. I have no experience with this particular product and been so far unhappy with the customer service .
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So pumping is your main stressor? I use pumping to complement the other things, and have been doing quite good with that. I have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words], and use the most vacuum possible which is very intense to say the least. I don't think id go with a different pump mostly because [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]'s track record, and that I don't know about too many people who successfully stage/dynamic pump.
It's not my main stressor atleast not yet. Jelqs for me I feel personally are still the best, but again for me dynamic pumping seems like jelqig. 2.0
I think it depends on where you look for might have different views of success. Like here the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is highly favored over air or traditional pumps. Most people that post here find the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] works great for them. I had two of them and had nothing but issues and not much success. That doesn't mean it's nessaricly a bad product cause it didn't work for me. It's One of those things where what works for one doesn't mean it works for others.On a lot of dedicated pumping forums staging and dynamic pumping seem to be where it's at for them.You see lots of people that say that [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] didn't work and had more success with the other method.So me viewing it that way it could be viewed the same way as yours. I just seem to respond better pulsation than I do at high consistent pressure.
I think it depends on where you look for might have different views of success. Like here the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is highly favored over air or traditional pumps. Most people that post here find the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] works great for them. I had two of them and had nothing but issues and not much success. That doesn't mean it's nessaricly a bad product cause it didn't work for me. It's One of those things where what works for one doesn't mean it works for others.On a lot of dedicated pumping forums staging and dynamic pumping seem to be where it's at for them.You see lots of people that say that [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] didn't work and had more success with the other method.So me viewing it that way it could be viewed the same way as yours. I just seem to respond better pulsation than I do at high consistent pressure.
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And those dudes gain big? I thought they mainly want to pack tubes all day but idk all I know is [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words]
Yes they do gain ,But I think we are viewing two different things possibly . There are guys who are into freak or fetish packing as I call it. They get as much fluid retention and get as huge as possible and packing massive tubes for the sake of just trying to get as big as possible.im sure pumping your cock up that extreme they might gain something but I don't think they are big gainers. But Im also not into that nor visit forums that do.
Im aiming for healthy expansion with little to no fluid build up. What I mean when I'm saying I'm packing is trying to use a tube only somewhat bigger than my erect girth to eliminate as much negative space to fill up. Then once it gets tight, I then use a bigger tube. I think for me using a more fitted tube is also a big factor why I feel better expansion and couldn't seem to with a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
Im aiming for healthy expansion with little to no fluid build up. What I mean when I'm saying I'm packing is trying to use a tube only somewhat bigger than my erect girth to eliminate as much negative space to fill up. Then once it gets tight, I then use a bigger tube. I think for me using a more fitted tube is also a big factor why I feel better expansion and couldn't seem to with a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
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