PGE-1 Injection Progress Thread

[sikdogg]

From what I've read bodybuilders who have had good results with IGF-LR3 have had to use more than 30mcg. I don't think 20mcg will be too much, although I will start with a lower dose and may reconsider. I need to do some research on what to mix the powder with, though. From what I've read acetic acid will kill cells/promote scar tissue, which was consistent with Supra's later problems.

Yes you are correct but they are injecting that much bilaterally so they are in effect taking only half the total amount in each muscle. So when i siad that BB'rs take 20mcg, i meant per muscle so if the injected biceps... they would be injecting both side for a total of 40mcg per day.

Acetic acid can/will kill tissues if the concentration is too high. What you mix with IGF should have an acetic acid concentration of only 100mM, which is very weak.

... I think the nausea/diarrhea side effects are only present systemically, so I would be safe as long as I didn't hit a vein...

What most people don't realize is that once you inject something, nothing is truely localized in its effect. You will get systemic effects...

I don't say this to try and discourage you... i just want to make sure you're fully aware of what you're planning on doing so there are no surprises when you actually do it, that's all... I would personally like to know if PGF-2A makes a difference, i'm just not sure if i'm willing to suffer the sides.

 

[spinner2]

Yes you are correct but they are injecting that much bilaterally so they are in effect taking only half the total amount in each muscle. So when i siad that BB'rs take 20mcg, i meant per muscle so if the injected biceps... they would be injecting both side for a total of 40mcg per day.

Acetic acid can/will kill tissues if the concentration is too high. What you mix with IGF should have an acetic acid concentration of only 100mM, which is very weak.


What most people don't realize is that once you inject something, nothing is truely localized in its effect. You will get systemic effects...

I don't say this to try and discourage you... i just want to make sure you're fully aware of what you're planning on doing so there are no surprises when you actually do it, that's all... I would personally like to know if PGF-2A makes a difference, i'm just not sure if i'm willing to suffer the sides.

Good reply on the acetic acid. Being able to safely mix with it will make IGF-LR3 much easier to add.

From what I've read there is supposed to be some nausea associated with PGF-2a injections in the CC, however nothing like the diarrhea/vomiting that might happen if you a hit a vein on accident. This comes anecdotally, and this 'minimization-of-systemic-effects' is consistent with my PGE-1 experiences, so I'm going to believe it unless I see a lot of evidence or hear of people who experienced differently.

In any case it would be 6 months minimum before I began PGF-2a injections. I'll be a lot more well read on it, and prepared by then. I'll also know from my PGE-1 gains whether it will even be necessary.

 

[8x6please]

Good reply on the acetic acid. Being able to safely mix with it will make IGF-LR3 much easier to add.

From what I've read there is supposed to be some nausea associated with PGF-2a injections in the CC, however nothing like the diarrhea/vomiting that might happen if you a hit a vein on accident. This comes anecdotally, and this 'minimization-of-systemic-effects' is consistent with my PGE-1 experiences, so I'm going to believe it unless I see a lot of evidence or hear of people who experienced differently.

In any case it would be 6 months minimum before I began PGF-2a injections. I'll be a lot more well read on it, and prepared by then. I'll also know from my PGE-1 gains whether it will even be necessary.

Do you think administering these prostaglandins in a transdermal form using DMSO would or could work?

 

[spinner2]

No. From what I've read you don't want this stuff on your skin, it's toxic to breathe, etc. There are a bunch of problems that would get in the way. If there were an easy way, there would be caverject cream (because who wants to inject their dick?). This isn't even going into the possibility that the molecule is too big to pass through the skin.

You also need to be VERY precise with dose when using prostaglandins, and that's not easy with a transdermal.

 

[8x6please]

No. From what I've read you don't want this stuff on your skin, it's toxic to breathe, etc. There are a bunch of problems that would get in the way. If there were an easy way, there would be caverject cream (because who wants to inject their dick?). This isn't even going into the possibility that the molecule is too big to pass through the skin.

You also need to be VERY precise with dose when using prostaglandins, and that's not easy with a transdermal.

Gotcha....was trying so hard not to have to inject but may end p doing it now.

 

[spinner2]

Gotcha....was trying so hard not to have to inject but may end p doing it now.

Do at least a full year of Penis Enlargement before you start injections. You could easily gain enough to meet your goals if you give it a couple years, stay consistent, and work really hard.

 

[goldmember]

I highly doubt that the dosage of PGF-2a that would be beneficial for Penis Enlargement would be as high as the doses that bodybuilders use (3-10mg/daily). I agree that you should wait until your injection technique is perfected before you even consider this, and wait it out to see if you even need it.

 

[spinner2]

Pgf-2a is last resort for me with all of this. I'm going hard to get another few inches of length and girth within 1-2 years, so I can focus on some other stuff. A few of my plans (�naked people movies� company startup, etc.) are contingent upon this, so I'm definitely gunning hard to finish soon on all of this. IGF-LR3 will happen by the end of the summer. I'll probably work infrared light in, too. I plan on using DMSO more regularly. I might even give andractim a shot.

 

[spinner2]

I tried injecting again after stretching 2-3 hours. Plunger wouldn't go down again as a result. Fuck, this makes me frustrated. I just got off a two day break, so this will be three days without injection. I'm NOT very happy. Tomorrow I'm going to inject first and stretch later.

 

[jqsderrida]

Pgf-2a is last resort for me with all of this. I'm going hard to get another few inches of length and girth within 1-2 years, so I can focus on some other stuff. A few of my plans (�naked people movies� company startup, etc.) are contingent upon this, so I'm definitely gunning hard to finish soon on all of this. IGF-LR3 will happen by the end of the summer. I'll probably work infrared light in, too. I plan on using DMSO more regularly. I might even give andractim a shot.

You're starting a �naked people movies� company?

 

[spinner2]

Haha, I plan to at one point in my life. I think �naked people movies� is awesome, but I think most of the �naked people movies� being made right now is just trash. I think I could do a better job and make some money while I'm at it.

 

[jqsderrida]

Haha, I plan to at one point in my life. I think �naked people movies� is awesome, but I think most of the �naked people movies� being made right now is just trash. I think I could do a better job and make some money while I'm at it.

post #666 from spinner2.

 

[spinner2]

That's probably not a good sign...

 

[spinner2]

Back on track with injections.

Tip for all people attempting this: Keep an alcohol swab handy. After injection apply this swab with PRESSURE to the injection site for 5 minutes to stop bleeding. Even if there's not external bleeding, there's a good chance of some internal bleeding. This will prevent scar tissue formation.

 

[jqsderrida]

I suppose that today you did your stretching following the injection?

 

[spinner2]

Yeah. Erection only lasted 75 minutes after 4mcg, though. My response is all over the place. I'm guessing it's because I haven't injected in a few days. Who knows. I'm gonna do 5 or 6.25 tomorrow and see what happens.

 

[spinner2]

I'm also gonna try injection in the right CC tomorrow, which I haven't had luck with lately.

 

[goldmember]

Pgf-2a is last resort for me with all of this. I'm going hard to get another few inches of length and girth within 1-2 years, so I can focus on some other stuff. A few of my plans (�naked people movies� company startup, etc.) are contingent upon this, so I'm definitely gunning hard to finish soon on all of this. IGF-LR3 will happen by the end of the summer. I'll probably work infrared light in, too. I plan on using DMSO more regularly. I might even give andractim a shot.

Andractim is expensive, and to save a bit of money, you could listen to sikdogg and just dissolve DHT powder in DMSO as a transdermal application. You might increase systemic absorption slightly over andractim, but as SD pointed out, as long as you are erect during application, you will limit systemic absorption.

IGF-1 LR3 and DHT are two very wise additions to the regiment. Best of luck.

 

[spinner2]

If I'm getting DHT it's andractim, regardless of cost. I've got to watch out for hair loss, so I'll have to minimize systemic effects. I might even put DHT off more than PGF-2a, although PGF-2a would be sorta bad for hairloss as well, with systemic inflammation.

 

[Cartman54]

I don't know if this is true for everybody, but if you are going to use andractim you would need to watch out for a enlarged prostate.